We continue the exploration of the best of the 80s & 90s… with the tense action-thriller, Executive Decision with our everyman, Kurt Russell from March of 1996!

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Hello.

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Hello.

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I'm Katie and welcome to

retro made your pop culture.

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Rewind.

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Let's continue the exploration of

the best of the eighties and nineties

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with a very tense action thriller.

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Executive decision our

everyman Kurt Russell.

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And today I'm very excited

to have new guests.

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Join me, Zabe and Robin from Who

Will Save Generation X Trivia

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Game Show on with me today.

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Thank you guys so much for joining.

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Tell us and the listeners

about you and your show.

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Zabe: Well, hi, I'm Zabe.

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I'm the host of the show.

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It is a very lighthearted look back

into the fun things of generation X.

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We play lots of games with our, our

guests that come on at its heart.

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It is very much a game show and

we try and keep that vibe going.

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And we have all kinds of different

games for people to try out.

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We try and get things fresh and new all

the time and to keep things interesting.

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But it's basically.

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We celebrate the cool things of

our youth, us Gen Xers, that is,

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but it's not exclusive to Gen X

as Robin is a millennial and she

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is the producer of this show.

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So we try and make it

appealing for everybody.

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But if you're a Gen X er, then you'll

definitely like the show a lot.

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Katie: It's super fun.

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Robin: For sure I can agree with that,

Zabe, because like you say, I'm a

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millennial, and honestly, if you're

someone that just enjoys trivia, it hits

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the spot, especially because Generation X

really was this time in music and movies

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and tv like it just so much especially

in america and so yeah if you even like

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trivia it's just such a fun listen and

i'm really happy to be a part of it

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Zabe: Well, it's a highly

produced show as well.

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So there's a lot of things.

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We put a lot of sound clips in

and a lot of things that will.

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Scratch your nostalgic itch if that's

the right phrase to even be using.

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I don't even know but it It it definitely

will bring back the good nostalgic vibes

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that and that's what we're shooting for

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Katie: Well, that's why you're

perfect guests for RetroMade because

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that's what I like to do too.

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80s and 90s were the best man.

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So,

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Robin: oh yeah

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Katie: well, before we get into the

show, I have a couple of listener

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comments that I wanted to share.

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If you guys listeners, if you're

listening on Spotify, Did you know you

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can actually leave comments and I can

see them and I can read them on the show?

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Well, you can and you should

just like Patrick did.

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He left two comments.

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One for the three wishes and the

Roseanne episode, which was episode 31.

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He says, Katie, I love this episode.

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Thank you for all that you do.

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Love the trips down memory lane

and also an introduction to

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a movie that has been missed.

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You rock.

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Keep up the great content.

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I loved hearing that.

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So thanks, Patrick.

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And then I love, love, love, love

your next comment because I did a

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bonus episode on the Roadhouse remake.

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I don't know if you guys

have seen it or not.

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Zabe: i refuse

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Robin: yeah

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Katie: yeah

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well, so if you listen to my

episode and my listeners are

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probably very divided on this.

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did not care for it.

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And my guests and I had fun kind of

picking it apart a little bit despite our

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real, I do very much like Jake Gyllenhaal.

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It's not his fault, but Patrick

commented on that episode and he

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says, I barely got through this movie.

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I think it would have been fine

if it was not named Roadhouse.

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And I wholeheartedly agree.

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I still wouldn't have liked it very

much, but I think it added a little

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extra insult to the injury for me that

they marketed it as a roadhouse movie.

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Zabe: well when they take the name of

movies and they they repackage them and

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Try to trot them out and try and get

some sort of equal success into the pop

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culture of today that they had back in

the day, it just seems so transparent

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and feels like this is money grabs

and they're pulling on the nostalgic

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strings I feel for the wrong reasons.

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And you know, go ahead, make your tough

guy bar movie and just call something

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else and bring your own flavor to it

because you're going to do it anyway.

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Katie: exactly.

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Well, other people

probably disagreed with me.

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Who, who am I?

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Who do I know?

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But it's strange.

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The types of movies that get that are

making money and being made nowadays.

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And so it doesn't really surprise me, but

they're already making a sequel to it.

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Zabe: Really?

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Katie: Yeah.

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Robin: wow

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Katie: Well, anyway, before you get me

going on a whole rant about the Roadhouse

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remake again, I just wanted to bring that

up and make sure that everyone is aware

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that if you listen on Spotify, you can

do that and you should just like Patrick.

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Thank you, Patrick.

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All right.

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Now let's open the time

capsule from March.

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1996, mid nineties is kind of my jam,

you know, that's when I was like, I

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think I started high school in 96.

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So, you know, which of the popular

TV at the time really kind of

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stuck out for whatever reason.

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Robin: For me it would be fraser for

sure and some of that is because my

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parents were massive massive cheers

fans back in the day and so I've

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definitely seen all of Cheers as well,

but, Frasier was one that I remember

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them watching when I was growing up.

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And it's one that when I was a

teen, I ended up latching onto for

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reruns and, you know, then DVR came,

had come around and everything.

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So, you know, we could record

that stuff, but love Frasier.

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So funny.

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I still love Kelsey Grammar

to this day because of it.

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And it's, you know, also why I

was willing to go back and try

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Cheers, which is also delightful.

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Katie: Did you watch the newly,

what is, what do they consider it?

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A reboot

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It?

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Robin: yeah, because

isn't it a continuation?

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You know, it looks like,

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Katie: see it

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Robin: it looks like

something I should enjoy.

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Like I think even some of the new

additions are people that I like,

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but I can't it's very good compared

to the show, you know, the original.

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And so I really haven't tried it.

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You know, I guess, I guess

get that money for for sure.

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Katie: About you Zabe?

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Zabe: Well, I'm definitely the

oldest person here on this episode.

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I was born in 73.

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The And that makes, puts me square Mac

smack dab in the middle of generation X.

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And I was 23 in 1996.

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And although television raised me as

it did many of my gen X cohorts from

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the seventies, all the way through the

eighties and into the early nineties.

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Cause we, we come from the generation

of very neglectful parents.

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I hope my parents don't

ever hear this episode, but

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they,

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the space Yeah, Lasky Kids, you

know, we were, we were the first

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generation for a widespread divorce.

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And as a necessity they had to turn

on the TV and let them babysit us.

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And, and you know.

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I don't look back with anything other

than fond memories of my television

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godparents watching over me.

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But by the time 1996 rolls around, I'm,

I'm an adult, you know, I've entered

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the workforce and I'm working 60 to 80

hours a week by that point in my life.

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And, oh yeah, I was a total workaholic

at a, from a very early age and I,

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you know, priorities had to be set.

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And television was something that

really flew out the window for me.

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So you sent us a whole list of

different things that we could talk

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about and every single thing on

the list here kind of passed me by.

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I've never seen an episode of Frasier.

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I was an adult already by

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So a lot of these shows

really just passed me by

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almost everything on

your list that you have.

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I didn't, I never watched ER.

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I didn't watch friends really.

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I didn't watch Frasier.

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I've never seen an episode

of Frasier even once.

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So, I love Cheers, but I just

never made the transition over

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to Frasier for whatever reason.

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So television of the mid

nineties kind of passed me by.

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The well goes very deep with 80s TV.

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But that's not the episode I'm on.

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Katie: Did you catch any of them?

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Do you ever like in syndication, do

you catch up with any of the shows

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like after they're run by any chance?

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Zabe: I caught up with Seinfeld for

the most part which I love, but going

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back and watching these shows when

they're not set in the proper time.

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So a lot of the things are more

impactful if you're watching them in the,

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in the time when they're

actually run for the first time.

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So while I still enjoyed the comedy,

I love the show I think it would

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have hit me a whole lot harder had

I watched them on their first run.

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Katie: Yeah, that totally makes sense.

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It's interesting because

I'm like Seinfeld friends.

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I think they were all on the

same night, like Thursday night.

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So that was, those were big friends is

one of my favorite shows of all time.

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So that's a big one for me.

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Well, let's move on to music to see,

I feel bad Zabe because if the TV

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missed you, maybe the music did too.

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I don't know.

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We'll see.

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The billboard top 10 the week that

executive decision came out, which is

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March 15th, 1996, the number one song.

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One Sweet Day by Mariah

Carey and Boyz II Men.

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The next two are actually from

a movie, from Waiting to Exhale.

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Both Brandy's Sittin Up in My

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I love that song, but it's so mid 90s.

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then number three is Mary J.

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Blige's Knock on cry.

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So those are both from waiting to exhale.

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Do we know these songs?

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Robin: I wish I knew these songs better

because every artist you've named,

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I've been like, yeah, it's some of

my favorites from back in the day.

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I'll say, I think I was

probably just on the young side.

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And so I know things probably

from, you know, or six years later.

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Katie: That totally makes sense.

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Robin: Yeah.

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Katie: Oh, I forgot to look up number 4.

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I've heard of the Tony rich project,

but I don't, I'm not really familiar.

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The number 4 song is called nobody knows.

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There's another one from a movie,

Celine Dion's, Because You Loved Me.

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Robin: excellent.

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Yes.

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Katie: didn't realize that

was from, what's the movie?

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Up Close and Personal.

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Robin: Oh,

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Katie: That's the, that's

the movie that it's from.

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Zabe: Well, come 1990, mid 90s,

Celine Dion is about to blow up and

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become the Celine Dion we all know.

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I think prior

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Katie: with

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Titanic,

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Zabe: Yeah,

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Robin: Oh, Yeah,

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Zabe: so all those songs that you just

mentioned, once again, pass me by, it's

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not because I wasn't paying attention to

music in the 90s, because I totally was.

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I, still to this day, I'm still

kind of stuck in my bubble of the

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kind of music that I listen to.

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I mean, I, yeah, yeah, us old men like

that get stuck in our ways, I get that.

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I hear, I hear what you're saying, Katie.

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Katie: too.

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I'm saying I do it too.

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Like that, I, I think it's you, you have

to take care to not let that happen.

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Meaning

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Zabe: Absolutely.

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Katie: end up

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listening to what they listened to

in high school and college forever.

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Zabe: I know I do.

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I'm still listening to The Cure

and The Smiths and Depeche Mode.

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And fortunately, all of those bands,

well not The Smiths, but Morrissey

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has, yeah, Carried on the Torch.

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A lot of those are, remained

relevant as I've gotten older.

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They've, they still turned out

awesome albums and great, great music.

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So, I've been able to stay in touch

with the bands that I love that have

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survived through the 90s.

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Yeah, it continued on.

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I'm still waiting for the

Cure's new album to come out.

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Robert Smith, if you're going

to listen to this episode, we're

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all waiting for the new album.

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We want it out as soon

as possible, please.

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Katie: He's going to reply on,

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Zabe: Please leave a comment

on this episode on Spotify.

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Katie: Yeah, that's exactly

what he's going to do.

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So I'll keep you posted on that.

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Zabe: thank you.

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Katie: Okay.

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So the number six song is one

that I had to look up because.

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The title is called missing the

group is everything but the girl.

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And I was like, what is that?

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is that I'll probably have to insert

the clip, but for you guys, it's

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Zabe: Sing it, Katie.

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Sing it!

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Katie: and I miss you like

the deserts missed the rain.

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That song,

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Robin: Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I haven't thought about that one in years.

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Katie: Semen, I didn't know the name of

the, everything but the girl is the name

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of the group and the title is missing.

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And I wouldn't have known that,

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down low in parentheses and

nobody has to know is R.

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Kelly

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Ronald Isley, you know, back in the

day, I really liked ignition, but.

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No bueno, R.

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Kelly.

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Robin: I know.

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Katie: you gotta go.

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Robin: Gotta

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Zabe: He who shall not be named.

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Katie: Okay, I'm pretty sure

you guys will know the next one.

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Do you remember the phenomenon

that was Joan Osborne's One of Us?

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Zabe: That, that song made a lot of

waves in the religious community.

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And yeah, I remember that

would have, God was one of us.

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Katie: Did it make waves in the religious

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Zabe: It did

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it well in my small, very

conservative Christian community.

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Raised them like it.

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So we talk a lot about the

satanic panic on our podcast

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and

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yeah.

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Katie: I guess.

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Zabe: yeah.

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and the 90s, you know, and, and to today,

even there's a lot of that going on, even

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in the political climate we have today,

which this is not a political show.

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So we're going to not mention it.

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However that was one of them.

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So

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the satanic panic,

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Katie: like the song?

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Zabe: no, they did not like the song

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Katie: Oh,

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Zabe: because here's what here, here

is, well, there, there, the song talks

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about the non deification, if that's the

word of God, like it's, it's, Belittling

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the deity of God to say what if he was

one of, just like a man or whatever.

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So,

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Katie: think

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that was a positive thing

that she was saying.

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Zabe: Well, I'm sure she did come

from it, from a positive thing, but

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a lot, I mean, I don't know if you

want this on your podcast, Katie, but

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I feel that a lot of religious leaders

of the day are just rich old white

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guys and they don't want to hear a

young woman saying, talking about God,

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frankly.

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Katie: I can

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see that.

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Zabe: So,

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Katie: It just reminded me of what's

her face up the picture of the Pope.

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Zabe: Sinead O'Connor,

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Katie: Sinead O'Connor,

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Yeah.

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Mm

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Zabe: she, she caught, she caught a lot

of flack for doing that as well, you know,

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but she had a political message that she

was saying, and it's unfortunate that

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we live in a society of men that don't

wanna hear women tell them what to do.

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And especially when it comes

to religious topics, which is

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insane and stupid and foolish.

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And so I remember that making

a lot of waves back in the day.

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Katie: I loved it.

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I really liked it.

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I can picture her face.

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She had a nose ring.

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I think

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Zabe: Sinead.

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Katie: the closeup.

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No, Joan Osborne in the

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Zabe: oh, oh oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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I, I couldn't pick her out of a lineup.

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I, I couldn't tell you

what she looked like.

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I was too busy selling

flowers for 80 hours a week.

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Back then.

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Katie: bless you.

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Zabe: Yeah.

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Robin: not

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Anne Osborn, is she?

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Zabe: I don't think so.

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Robin: No.

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Yeah,

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I

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Zabe: not.

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Robin: gonna say.

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Katie: you mean like Ozzie's

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Robin: Ozzy,

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Katie: what you

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Robin: Sharon, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Katie: don't

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Zabe: No, I don't think so.

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Robin: don't think so.

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yeah.

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yeah, yeah.

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Sorry.

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I, I assumed that if that was the

case, y'all would, y'all would be like,

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yeah, Robin, come on, get with it.

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Zabe: She would sing the song.

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What if God ate a bat's head?

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That's the song.

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She'd be singing if

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She was related to Ozzy.

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Katie: last name.

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Robin: yeah.

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Katie: The Gin Blossoms, very 90s, has

the number nine song with Follow You Down.

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Till I hear it from you, which I

don't know about you, Robin, but

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empire records was like epic for me.

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You're maybe you're too young for it,

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Robin: I,

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Katie: empire records,

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Robin: no, I was too young

for that one, unfortunately.

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Katie: it's on that soundtrack.

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And that's, I picture

that movie with that song.

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Robin: Well, I love that song.

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I was literally just

listening to it this week.

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It's on one of my work playlists.

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Katie: Oh, nice.

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It's very nineties.

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I

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Robin: Oh, yeah.

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Katie: Now that we're going through these.

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Now the last one I had to look up to

because the name of it is be my lover.

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group is LaBouche.

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I, I'm not sure I'm pronouncing that

correctly, but it is that techno song.

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That's like, you want to

be my lover, like that one.

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You know what

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Robin: I'm not sure I know that one.

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Katie: Well, I'll insert it.

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Zabe: I remember the band named Labouche,

but I couldn't pick that song out.

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I

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remember the name

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Katie: I

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Zabe: so I would yeah I I do

remember the name so I don't know i'm

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thinking Right around the mid 90s.

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We see the harbingers of the

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downfall of

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modern music as it turns into boy, i'm

gonna have a lot of people hating me You

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Katie: It's a bunch of old people like us.

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Anyways.

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Zabe: well, you know, I don't, I

don't want to be that old man saying,

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well, music was better in my day, you

darn kids, you know, get off my lawn.

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Katie: Get off my lawn.

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Zabe: There's a reason why we're

struggling to come up with some

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of the names of these bands and

remember who they even were.

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These were top 10 bands in

the middle of the nineties.

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If you give us that same

list from the eighties.

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I would bet that even I think Robin

would know a lot of those bands being a

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millennial from the eighties, even more

than, than some of these nineties bands.

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And that is just to say that they

didn't make quite the same punch in

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the pop culture as those 80 bands.

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Now I have a theory about that

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Katie: Hmm.

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Zabe: Here we are in the, in the nineties,

we start to see the beginning of.

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Like your Napster's

and your file sharings.

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And I mean, it's, it's

right before that I get it.

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97 is right before all that

kind of stuff kind of happens.

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But as that happens the ability

to distribute music changes music

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becomes more niche and people trying

to find their, their own way in

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music, and as a, as a result, we

don't have so many commonalities.

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Of, of music, if that makes any sense.

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There's more outlets so people can choose

to where they get their stuff from now,

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it's just like a, a pain glass window

being thrown down on a, on a concrete

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floor, how it's splintered, you know,

people can get music any which way,

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and there's no commonality anymore.

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And like at all you can go your

whole life without hearing that

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the number one artist, whoever it

is right now, if you choose to.

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Yeah.

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Katie: Mm hmm.

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Zabe: And so, and I think we start to

see that around this time of the in

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the timeline where music really becomes

fractured and people people aren't as

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connected musically as they were previous.

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Katie: Yeah, I, I, you have a

point there and I think it maybe

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just took longer with TV, but TV

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Zabe: Yeah, same thing

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Katie: thing

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Just, you know, We

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Zabe: streaming services and yeah,

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Katie: Mm

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Zabe: it's not there's not that

Thursday night must see TV on NBC where

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everyone's going to sit down and watch

the show and cheers and night court.

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All on that same night and make the jokes

on Friday before school gets out, you know

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Katie: Yeah.

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We talk about that.

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I mean, that's what the show is all

about reminiscing it's nostalgia.

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, that's what we're here to do.

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So I will say to give credit

when I do the billboards, it

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is for that specific week.

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And so there's a lot of change

that happens week over week.

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So I guarantee that we'd all know.

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You know, the top 25 for the

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It's

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Zabe: I'm curious to take

that challenge now katie.

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Robin: We're going

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Zabe: many labouches are there on that?

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Katie: No, the year.

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I think we'd all know like

top 10, definitely for 96.

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We'd all know them.

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All right.

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So let's maybe move on from music.

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What was going on and events of the day.

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I think this is wild.

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Just toll free numbers in and

of themselves are kind of crazy.

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Unnecessary now,

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Robin: Yeah.

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Katie: but they were very necessary

in the 90s and there were so many of

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them that we ran out of 800 numbers.

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So we had to go to 888.

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So that's what happened March of 1996.

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The new toll free 888 area

code was introduced in the US.

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Mm hmm.

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you guys remember the Menendez boys?

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Zabe: Oh, yeah.

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Robin: yeah.

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Katie: You do, Robin?

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Or just from they're notorious,

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Robin: say from Notorious,

I couldn't tell you.

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Yeah, sorry.

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I guess I don't think I mentioned

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So current events wise, I

wasn't really listening.

472

Katie: Well, you know, we

have a pretty good spread.

473

I'm the middle child here.

474

Robin: Yeah, for sure.

475

Zabe: I'm the old man.

476

Go ahead and say it.

477

Katie: No, no.

478

No, no.

479

So they were found guilty

of killing their parents.

480

That with the verdict came in, in

481

the big panic about mad cow disease?

482

Robin: Yes, because literally,

okay, this is relevant.

483

I, I was living in Germany with my family.

484

My dad was an army guy growing up and

he, so we were stationed in Germany

485

for a period of time during that scare.

486

And I, until recently

could never donate blood,

487

but only

488

Katie: you

489

Robin: recently,

490

Katie: there at the

491

time.

492

Yeah.

493

Robin: exactly.

494

So yeah, no, that's literally

something that has affected my life.

495

Yeah.

496

Katie: wild.

497

Yeah.

498

It's, it seems like it was like really

big in the UK, but yeah, mad cow disease.

499

I don't know if either of you

are wrestling fans, but I have a

500

feeling that a lot of listeners are.

501

Yeah.

502

Yeah.

503

From, you know, back in the day,

or maybe they still are, but let's

504

see if I can do Roman numerals.

505

WrestleMania 12

506

Robin: Yeah.

507

Yeah.

508

Katie: at Arrowhead Pond

of Anaheim, California.

509

Shawn Michaels beats Bret Hart

for the WWF heavyweight title.

510

Those are probably the newer names.

511

If you were a wrestling fan, they

were, you know, mid nineties here.

512

I, cause I watched it in the eighties,

513

Zabe: Yeah.

514

Same.

515

I watched wrestling back when it was

real with Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper

516

and Jimmy Superflesh Snuka.

517

Katie: super real, super real.

518

A couple of people got married.

519

Angelina Jolie got married

to Johnny Lee Miller.

520

She was

521

Robin: Oh, boy,

522

Katie: 20 years old at the time.

523

They, they divorced in 2000 and at that

time, she then married Billy Bob Thornton.

524

Zabe: Did she get a vial of blood

from her first husband to wear as a

525

necklace as well or just Billy Bob?

526

Katie: it must've been something else

because they were too young to be married.

527

20 and 23, man.

528

Yeah.

529

Also Clint Eastwood at the age of

65 got married to his second wife.

530

I don't know who she, Dina

Ruiz was a news anchor.

531

Zabe: Was she the lead

singer for LaBouche?

532

Katie: Maybe.

533

So they got married in Vegas and

no, he is not still married to her.

534

They got divorced in 2014.

535

Zabe: Clint Eastwood got married

to his second wife in Vegas.

536

That is such a shock to me to hear.

537

Robin: at 65,

538

Zabe: Yeah,

539

that doesn't seem.

540

Katie: she was 30.

541

He was 65.

542

She was 30, which that tracks.

543

Yeah, I didn't look up.

544

He's probably married now.

545

I have a feeling that he, right?

546

He had a

547

Robin: you must be, yeah, but I

could not possibly tell you who.

548

Zabe: He's in like his 90s now.

549

Katie: and he's still working.

550

He's like 94,

551

Zabe: Yeah.

552

Katie: directing movies.

553

Robin: Yeah.

554

Directing and starring.

555

It's crazy.

556

Katie: yeah, it is crazy,

but I think that's the key.

557

Keep working.

558

Zabe: Yeah, my brother was

a huge Clint Eastwood fan.

559

We watched all the Clint

Eastwood movies growing up.

560

Not so much anymore though.

561

Katie: yeah, I like his son

because he's very good looking.

562

Scott,

563

Robin: He is.

564

Katie: think is his name.

565

I'm like,

566

Robin: Yeah.

567

Katie: he's handsome.

568

I'll, I'll watch whatever he's in.

569

Zabe: Why did both of you

ladies start like combing your

570

hair as soon as you mentioned,

571

you both tugged at your hair.

572

As soon as you mentioned Scott

Eastwood, it's just Oh, wow.

573

Katie: do.

574

That's so funny that we

didn't even know we did it.

575

I

576

Robin: No, I literally did not.

577

Katie: oh, funny.

578

Mm

579

Robin: Oh, no, not over Scott Eastwood.

580

Oh, amazing.

581

Katie: There was a very famous divorce

that I don't remember happening.

582

Winnie and Nelson Mandela got divorced

583

Robin: Oh.

584

Katie: in March of 1996

after 38 years of marriage.

585

Zabe: Well, I think 30 of

those years he was in prison.

586

So the marriage got along pretty good.

587

Katie: Yeah, I mean that I do think

that's kind of the key to a relationship

588

Zabe: Key to the relationship, half of

it has to be done from a prison cell.

589

Katie: Just a part

590

Robin: Doesn't necessarily have

to be prison, just your, you

591

know, separation of choice.

592

Katie: yeah, yeah yeah make me miss you.

593

Mm hmm.

594

Unfortunately, there is a famous person

who died this time George Burns Do you

595

Zabe: Oh,

596

Katie: George Burns from Oh,

597

God, Burns

598

Zabe: right.

599

Katie: the comedian and actor?

600

Robin: Yes.

601

Zabe: yeah.

602

Katie: years old

603

Robin: Wow.

604

Katie: And I have a note here that

his actual name is Nathan Birnbaum.

605

Zabe: We were not allowed to

watch those movies because they

606

said, Oh God, in them growing up.

607

That's how like restrictive my parents

were from letting us any kind of

608

religious satanic panicky type stuff.

609

It's a comedy.

610

It's George Burns for crying out loud.

611

Yeah.

612

My apologies to any fans.

613

Katie: Catholic now,

but I grew up Catholic.

614

Yeah I would be like, God, and my

mom would be like, do you mean gosh

615

yeah.

616

So, that was considered the

Lord's name in vain, but that's

617

not actually what it means.

618

Anyways.

619

Before we get into executive

decision, it was actually the

620

number 3 at the box office.

621

At this time in March but some other

big movies at the time, the bird cage

622

up close and personal, which was from

some of the songs were from that.

623

And I can't place what that is down.

624

Periscope bound to lost in San

Francisco, arrow, rumble in the Bronx.

625

Happy Gilmore.

626

Mr.

627

Holland's Opus, which was actually a

December 95 release, but it's still

628

topping the box office in March.

629

And Muppet Treasure Island.

630

Robin: Yes.

631

Katie: again, whenever we have

these, it is just wild to me

632

many just random movies got made.

633

Very few movies hit the theater

now, so it's, it's interesting

634

Robin: Oh, yeah.

635

Zabe: Those movies that you

mentioned, but to say that you're

636

the number three box office

637

Katie: amongst

638

Zabe: against up against that

rose gallery of garbage movies

639

is not really saying a whole lot

640

happy Gilmore.

641

That's probably the best

one on that whole list.

642

If you ask me

643

Robin: Are you sliding Tim Curry?

644

Am I hearing this right?

645

Zabe: what movie was that,

646

Katie: was Tim Curry

647

Robin: Muppet Treasure Island, y'all.

648

Katie: I've never seen it.

649

I've never seen it.

650

I do love Tim Curry, but

I've never seen that movie.

651

Zabe: would never slight

the name of Tim Curry.

652

I, I take it all back.

653

Robin: Thank you.

654

yes, also Happy Gilmore

was the only other one I

655

Zabe: Yeah,

656

Katie: The Birdcage, Down

Periscope, Broken Arrow.

657

Yeah.

658

Mr.

659

Holland's Opus.

660

Robin: yeah, Mr.

661

Honza was, of course.

662

Did it win the Oscar the year before?

663

Or no, it would have been eligible the

next year if it was a December relief.

664

Never mind, doesn't matter.

665

Katie: No, December.

666

It would have been a 96 Oscar.

667

Robin: Right?

668

And it would have been around that time.

669

I just wonder if longevity had something

to do with the Oscar race, maybe.

670

Anyway.

671

Katie: I am not a fan of What's His

Face, so I didn't, I didn't really

672

Robin: Oh, who

673

Zabe: I hate what's his face.

674

Oh,

675

Katie: oh, his name?

676

He was in Jaws.

677

The,

678

Robin: doll.

679

Zabe: Richard.

680

Richard Dreyfuss.

681

Katie: Dreyfus, yes, do not care

for Richard Dreyfus, so I was

682

never skedaddling to see Mr.

683

Holland's Office.

684

Zabe: I get in arguments

with my wife over that movie.

685

She enjoys that movie.

686

I find it to be hot garbage.

687

I really, really disliked Mr.

688

Holland's opus.

689

I know a lot of people love it.

690

But I just couldn't get past Mr.

691

Holland being such a dack.

692

He's like, such an awful father.

693

And, and, but my wife said, oh,

but he has redemption at the end.

694

I'm like, okay.

695

So he lived.

696

This child's whole life of being an

absent father, being just unloving and

697

uncaring about this kid who's got a

disability, and he all makes it up because

698

he learns a few words of sign language?

699

No.

700

He doesn't get a pass.

701

He's a piece of crap.

702

I'm out!

703

Katie: I remember very little from this,

maybe I'm thinking of the wrong movie,

704

is he not like a conductor of a band or

705

Zabe: Yeah, he is.

706

And his, his, yes, it is.

707

Robin: he at the high

school or something, right?

708

Zabe: But his son is

born hearing impaired.

709

So he cannot share his

love of music with his son.

710

So because his son, he can't

mold his son to conform

711

to him and enjoy the things that he loves.

712

Suddenly his kid is no

longer worthy of his love.

713

Now, maybe that's a very cynical

way to look at that movie, but you

714

know, that's one way to look at it.

715

Like, come on dad.

716

I, I dunno, maybe I just

got my Gen X trauma of

717

parental neglect in that

718

Katie: maybe

719

Zabe: our parents.

720

Demanded that our Children conform to

who they are, and it's not until more

721

recent parental, strategies, if that's

the right word to say, hey, let me

722

try and meet my kid where they're at

in their lives and try to help them

723

elevate and become good, decent people

in this world, rather than I'm going to

724

beat you down until you conform into,

you know, My politics, my religion,

725

my blah, blah, blah, blah, you know?

726

So I don't know.

727

I think people are going to

be who they're going to be.

728

And Mr.

729

Holland couldn't be bothered to

accept his son for who he was

730

rather than who he wanted him to be.

731

Katie: might have to rewatch this

movie and see what I think about it.

732

Cause I don't even, recall it,

733

Zabe: Thanks for coming to

my Ted talk, by the way.

734

Robin: was just gonna say,

Zave, I think it probably

735

doesn't hold up for that reason.

736

I, I think that trope has become a

little bit exactly what you're saying.

737

Old people are going, is

this something we like?

738

Is this something we

739

Zabe: Right.

740

Robin: know,

741

put on a pedestal?

742

Anyway,

743

Katie: Great point.

744

Well, I have a couple of questions

for you too, before we jump into

745

our executive decision discussion.

746

So.

747

And also listeners, if you're new,

this season of Reshiramade, season

748

one, I have dedicated to Patrick

Swayze and Kurt Russell, who I have

749

dubbed the ultimate everyman, right?

750

Robin: absolutely.

751

Katie: either have any thoughts or

fandom or anything that you want

752

to share about either of them?

753

Oh, nine.

754

Robin: I

755

Zabe: first, Robin.

756

Katie: nine.

757

Robin: again, I, you know, I was

probably, this is probably, you know,

758

with streaming and everything, I get to

go back and revisit stuff from the time.

759

So it's probably coming

after the fact, but.

760

Oh my gosh, I just love, love them both.

761

I you know, with Kurt, a lot of

it, frankly, is simply because

762

I think he and Goldie Hawn are

fabulous, love their daughter,

763

Kate Hudson, you know what I mean?

764

So that's important to me.

765

And then Patrick Swayze, I mean, you

know, God, when did, when did he pass?

766

Cause I think I remember it, but I don't.

767

Oh nine.

768

Yeah.

769

So it was around the time I was in

high school and I remember being sad

770

about it because just all of them.

771

His movie is amazing.

772

That one SNL sketch where he's,

773

Katie: God.

774

Robin: he's a Chippendales

775

Katie: love

776

Robin: dancer.

777

Oh, yeah, like I mean, I just,

I just think he's wonderful.

778

You know, I wish we were still

getting content from him, but

779

Katie: Well said.

780

Zabe: So, absolutely love Kurt

Russell from the moment that

781

I ever saw anything he was in.

782

From Escape from New York, from the minute

you see Snake Plissken doing his Snake

783

Plissken y things, you love Kurt Russell.

784

You move on to things like

Big Trouble in Little China.

785

How can you not love Kurt Russell and

that movie, even though a lot of people

786

pan that movie, they just don't get it.

787

I think they don't get it.

788

If you hate that movie, you just

don't understand what it's about,

789

Katie: Oh my God.

790

It's one of the best.

791

I love it so much.

792

Zabe: but he's so great.

793

Cause he can go do like

a rom com and overboard.

794

Kurt Russell can do anything.

795

Do you actually movie like tango and cash?

796

I don't know.

797

I can't remember if he's tango

or cash, but he's so awesome.

798

He should be both.

799

So

800

easy cash.

801

Okay.

802

Thank you.

803

Katie: Yeah.

804

It took me

805

Zabe: Okay.

806

Katie: to think

807

about it because I

808

Zabe: Right,

809

Katie: too.

810

Zabe: right.

811

But if you can hold your own

with Sylvester Stallone, right?

812

I mean, he's a force of nature,

you know, and, and he does.

813

So, always love Kurt Russell.

814

So when it came to

Patrick Stewart, however,

815

No, I'm talking about Patrick Stewart,

816

Katie: Oh.

817

Zabe: Patrick Stewart, the bald guy

from From Next Generation Star Trek.

818

Robin: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

819

Katie: What does he have to do with it?

820

Zabe: He's got nothing to do with it,

but I'm covering up the fact that I

821

mispronounced Patrick Swayze's name.

822

And I'm trying to make it sound

as if I'm meant to do that.

823

Katie: like, no, no.

824

That's what I meant to say.

825

Zabe: Sorry, Patrick Swayze is

826

always very near and near to my brain.

827

So yeah, I'm always, he's very

close to in my train of thought.

828

Patrick Swayze, please forgive me.

829

I had a very toxic older brother.

830

And as the youngest, you know, you kind

of take your cues from your older siblings

831

and my brother, like I said, super toxic.

832

And if he hated something, it

really put a, a dark cloud over.

833

It in the house.

834

So you naturally just become

prone to also disliking what

835

your older siblings may, dislike.

836

Anyways, he hated Patrick Swayze.

837

And as a result, like I had a

negative opinion of Patrick Swayze

838

for years and years and years.

839

Although I liked the movies he was in,

840

although I liked everything you did,

841

Katie: Time out.

842

How is it possible to hate?

843

I can see not loving,

but hate Patrick Swayze.

844

Zabe: you have to know, you have to

know my brother to understand this.

845

The guy can hate anything

if he sets his mind to it.

846

Like you said.

847

Katie: Okay.

848

Zabe: Super toxic.

849

I'm not saying he's right about it.

850

In fact, he's 100 percent wrong

about his hatred of Patrick Swayze.

851

I think some girl he had a crush on

said, Oh, Patrick Swayze, he's so dreamy.

852

And so suddenly, Oh, I,

you know what, that guy was

853

Katie: Oh,

854

Zabe: guy.

855

You know, so

856

Katie: oh yeah.

857

Zabe: stupid reasons, this one.

858

Katie: of guy thinking

he's making that same joke.

859

The twinkle toes dancing guy.

860

Zabe: Yeah.

861

Yeah.

862

Katie: your ass too.

863

And,

864

Zabe: A hundred percent

865

is jealousy.

866

At its heart, it's just jealousy, right?

867

He feels the same way about

any, name any heartthrob.

868

You're Johnny Depp, so

he hates Johnny Depp.

869

He hates Leonardo DiCaprio.

870

And, and, you know, he hates that guy.

871

Any, any, name any dude who gets the

ladies, and he hates them because,

872

I don't know, because he's jealous.

873

Anyway, I hope he never

hears this episode do.

874

Hope none of my family hears this episode.

875

Let's just

876

put that out there.

877

Katie: No.

878

I want you to share it on your socials.

879

Zabe: Well, you know, my listeners can

listen to it, but you know, anyways,

880

So I grew up with this like really

negative view of Patrick Swayze and

881

as I got older and broke out from

that Dark shadow that he put over me.

882

I'm like Patrick Swayze is awesome.

883

What's not to love about Patrick Swayze?

884

So my favorite Patrick Swayze movie is

885

Uncommon Valor

886

Katie: did you

887

Zabe: and

888

Katie: Uncommon Valor

889

episode?

890

Zabe: So as I'm preparing for this

episode that was the first one I went

891

to first one to listen to and I'll be

honest with you Katie I folded my arms.

892

I'm like all all upset that I wasn't able

to Be on that episode because that's the

893

one I really wanted to be on when she was

at patches ways The first thing I thought

894

I'm like, okay, let's see if these guys

that she has on Can do justice to this

895

movie the way I would do it and I want

to tell you katie You made the right

896

choice by having them on instead of me

897

because they were

898

Katie: to let them

899

Zabe: awesome They were great.

900

Even with that guy's

really fake british accent.

901

It was a great episode

902

And and and they had much more

intelligent things to say about it

903

than I would ever have so so good on

them and it was a great episode if

904

your listeners haven't checked out

that episode yet I highly recommend it.

905

I think it was a great one

906

Katie: thanks for the plug.

907

Zabe: Yeah, sure.

908

I plugged people to listen to your show

while they're listening to your show.

909

I don't know if that works, but

910

Katie: Well, it does because like I,

it's not the most well-known movie, so

911

some people might only listen to the

episodes of movies they know, you know.

912

Zabe: They're missing out.

913

I got a lot to say about that movie, but

we're not reviewing that movie but suffice

914

to say patch sweezy is great He acts his

ass off in that movie in a in a shoot

915

him up like You know war type movie This

guy is emoting and giving a performance.

916

And that's what you get

with Patrick Swayze.

917

Anything he's in, he's gonna

give you a performance.

918

Even in that, even in that

Chippendales SNL thing you guys,

919

he's still giving a performance.

920

And, and that's what propels the, you

know, the good actors are just the pretty

921

faces to the the real people that has

a craft and really applies themselves

922

to, to the, the craft of acting.

923

And that's what Patrick Swayze did.

924

RIP Patrick Swayze.

925

I want to say publicly, I was

wrong about you and I apologize

926

for ever having a negative

thought about you ever in my life.

927

You're, you're a treasure.

928

Katie: Also extremely well said and

I treasure is actually a word that

929

a lot of people use to describe

him He really is a treasure.

930

I love him.

931

Okay, this movie has Kurt in it

though, who I also love Now do

932

you guys think that there is any

resemblance between Kurt and Patrick?

933

Zabe: I've heard you say

this on prior episodes

934

Katie: What

935

Zabe: for it.

936

I think so only when they both have

the kind of mulledy kind of hair going

937

like that kind of, you know, business

up front party in the back type style.

938

But you call them the every man.

939

The first thing I thought of when you

said everyone, I'm like, dude, these guys

940

are not every man's, but if you really

dissect what they do, you're right.

941

They are they really take that

role, especially in the movie.

942

We're about to talk about.

943

He's very much the every man in the,

in the scope of the different cast

944

of characters that we see in this

movie, but we won't go there yet.

945

So they have comparisons in that.

946

They got charisma.

947

Coming out their ears they're

so lovable and maybe, maybe a

948

little bit in the looks, I guess.

949

So yeah, I see it.

950

Katie: about you Robin?

951

What do you think?

952

Robin: I could see it too.

953

Like Zabe said, I had heard you mention

this before on the show and I I was, so

954

it got me thinking about it because I

hadn't really contemplated it before.

955

ever since then I've been like,

oh my gosh, they must have been

956

constantly going after the same roles.

957

I never even thought of that.

958

Yeah, no, of course they were.

959

Katie: Mm-Hmm,

960

Robin: Crazy.

961

Cause yeah, they're, I

mean, great action stars.

962

Great everyman, like you're saying.

963

Able to just fall into whatever role,

but also able to like, be the relatable

964

person in the situation, you know.

965

yeah.

966

No, I can

967

Zabe: I, I,

968

Robin: it.

969

You've changed my mind.

970

Zabe: I take it maybe a step further

in that they, to say that they're

971

every man kind of isn't a hundred

percent accurate, but I'd say more.

972

So they are who the every

man would like to be,

973

Katie: Ooh, that's

974

an interesting spin.

975

I like that.

976

Zabe.

977

The reason I kind of dubbed them

that was that they kind of were in

978

the era of the superhuman action

stars like Arnold and Sly, and they

979

were, I guess, more known for their

acting and could still do the action.

980

They could do anything

essentially, including the action.

981

Yeah, but I like that.

982

That's who the Everyman wants me.

983

That's the relatable piece

that an Everyman has.

984

Zabe: but I,

985

Katie: always says, let's, I

986

I,

987

can picture myself having a beer with them

988

.

Zabe: I don't see Sly or Arnold Schwarzenegger being able to carry a movie

989

like dressed in drag, like two, one food.

990

Thanks for everything, Julie Newmar.

991

Right.

992

So, they were, they really,

993

Katie: Kurt was dressed

in dragon tango and cash.

994

If you recall for a minute,

995

Zabe: right.

996

I mean, I'm saying he can

do that is what I'm saying.

997

Katie: Oh yeah.

998

Yeah.

999

Zabe: I don't see Sly and,

and, and Schwarzenegger

00:44:30,026 --> 00:44:31,056

being able to pull that off.

00:44:31,256 --> 00:44:32,546

Katie: Oh, no, no.

00:44:32,546 --> 00:44:33,006

no.

00:44:33,116 --> 00:44:37,842

Zabe: Arnold can be pregnant and have

a baby, but not dressed as a woman.

00:44:37,842 --> 00:44:38,504

He can't.

00:44:38,504 --> 00:44:39,495

He had a

00:44:39,576 --> 00:44:41,246

Katie: odd one, Junior.

00:44:41,366 --> 00:44:41,856

Yeah.

00:44:44,756 --> 00:44:46,056

Zabe: flight of odd ones.

00:44:46,506 --> 00:44:47,046

Katie: Mm hmm.

00:44:47,486 --> 00:44:48,926

I really liked twins, though.

00:44:49,776 --> 00:44:50,166

Zabe: Sure.

00:44:50,396 --> 00:44:51,666

Katie: a lot, so.

00:44:52,216 --> 00:44:52,906

All right, you guys.

00:44:53,076 --> 00:44:56,986

Without further ado, shall we

get into the movie, executive?

00:44:57,306 --> 00:44:58,106

Decision.

00:45:03,866 --> 00:45:04,436

Zabe: A hundred percent.

00:45:05,346 --> 00:45:06,946

00:45:07,026 --> 00:45:08,596

It's over two hours long.

00:45:08,986 --> 00:45:09,505

It's got a 6.

00:45:09,506 --> 00:45:14,306

5 IMDB, which having done this

show for a while is pretty good.

00:45:14,686 --> 00:45:16,906

It's hard to get into

the sevens and eights.

00:45:18,861 --> 00:45:19,631

Extremely hard.

00:45:21,131 --> 00:45:24,061

it's a first time director, Stuart Baird.

00:45:24,091 --> 00:45:27,781

This was his debut but he actually

was nominated for editing.

00:45:27,791 --> 00:45:31,821

I don't think he directed anymore, but

he was really more known for an editor

00:45:32,271 --> 00:45:37,681

Superman, which I've not seen, but he was

00:45:37,821 --> 00:45:39,491

nominated for his editing skills there.

00:45:40,081 --> 00:45:42,021

Zabe: You've never seen

Superman the movie?

00:45:43,991 --> 00:45:44,121

Katie: I

00:45:44,361 --> 00:45:45,391

Zabe: Katie, Katie,

00:45:46,161 --> 00:45:46,751

we gotta talk.

00:45:47,171 --> 00:45:51,801

Katie: I'm, I admittedly am

not big on superhero movies

00:45:52,891 --> 00:45:53,291

Zabe: Okay,

00:45:53,561 --> 00:45:53,651

Katie: of

00:45:53,651 --> 00:45:54,251

Batman.

00:45:55,121 --> 00:45:55,491

Zabe: okay.

00:45:55,651 --> 00:45:56,341

Robin: How interesting.

00:45:56,671 --> 00:45:58,071

Zabe: Comic books taught me how to read.

00:45:58,151 --> 00:46:02,011

So, I'm, I'm a, I'm a big nerd when

it comes to all that kind of stuff.

00:46:02,651 --> 00:46:06,551

Katie: I do see the enormous

cultural impact that they had.

00:46:06,791 --> 00:46:07,601

Zabe: I still like you, Katie.

00:46:08,701 --> 00:46:09,671

We can still be friends.

00:46:09,710 --> 00:46:10,660

Katie: you're going to hate me though.

00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:12,480

If you listen, I have not seen Star Wars.

00:46:13,321 --> 00:46:13,581

Zabe: Okay.

00:46:13,891 --> 00:46:15,681

Oh no, my connection's getting bad.

00:46:15,681 --> 00:46:17,951

I don't think I can

continue with the podcast.

00:46:17,991 --> 00:46:18,281

I

00:46:22,495 --> 00:46:23,355

Katie: I know certain

00:46:23,371 --> 00:46:23,721

Robin: my god.

00:46:24,755 --> 00:46:25,655

Katie: yeah, I know.

00:46:25,685 --> 00:46:29,295

But you know, I like all the

other stuff, 80s and 90s related.

00:46:31,055 --> 00:46:34,965

I will say that the writers here it's kind

of an interesting mix that they wrote.

00:46:34,975 --> 00:46:37,485

It's Jim and John Thomas, a brother duo.

00:46:38,305 --> 00:46:42,605

things that they wrote were

Predator, awesome, Wild Wild West.

00:46:43,231 --> 00:46:43,581

Robin: Oh.

00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:45,610

Katie: seems very different, but

00:46:47,111 --> 00:46:47,531

Robin: I did not

00:46:47,641 --> 00:46:48,081

Zabe: think that

00:46:48,151 --> 00:46:48,591

Robin: were written by

00:46:48,591 --> 00:46:49,401

the same people.

00:46:49,890 --> 00:46:50,390

Katie: me neither.

00:46:51,181 --> 00:46:52,251

Zabe: Well, come on.

00:46:52,331 --> 00:46:56,891

There's definitely shades between

this movie and Predator, right?

00:46:57,551 --> 00:47:03,771

I mean, they got their multi cultural

special forces team going in to take

00:47:03,771 --> 00:47:05,391

care of the situation, you know?

00:47:05,911 --> 00:47:08,521

All with their colorful

cast of characters, right?

00:47:08,820 --> 00:47:10,610

Katie: That is so funny that you say that.

00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:16,250

I didn't even occur to me, but they

were, it was multicultural team.

00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:16,400

Yeah.

00:47:16,401 --> 00:47:18,525

Cappy.

00:47:18,581 --> 00:47:23,351

Zabe: Dutch and Doc and Cappy

and all that kind of stuff, yeah.

00:47:24,990 --> 00:47:28,890

Katie: Well, we have Kurt Russell as

our star here and he plays David Grant,

00:47:29,310 --> 00:47:31,170

who is the intelligence consultant.

00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,520

And if you guys have not seen this

movie in three years, 30 ish years.

00:47:38,610 --> 00:47:39,740

Here's a quick recap.

00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:46,050

Terrorists take over a 747 bound from

Athens to Washington DC, supposedly

00:47:46,050 --> 00:47:48,100

to affect the release of their leader.

00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,460

Intelligent expert, David Grant

suspects another reason and convinces

00:47:52,460 --> 00:47:56,070

the military that the plane should

not be allowed to enter us airspace.

00:47:56,380 --> 00:47:59,140

An assault mission is devised using a spy.

00:47:59,475 --> 00:48:04,675

Specially equipped plane that is

designed for mid air crew transfers.

00:48:04,935 --> 00:48:09,235

And Grant finds himself aboard the

747 with a team of military anti

00:48:09,235 --> 00:48:14,225

terrorists who have to defuse a

bomb and overpower the terrorists.

00:48:16,055 --> 00:48:17,305

So that's the situation we're in.

00:48:17,405 --> 00:48:21,705

And we have our Kurt Russell as doctor,

he's, he's even got a PhD, David Grant.

00:48:22,715 --> 00:48:25,625

Halle Berry is in this,

which I did not recall.

00:48:26,725 --> 00:48:28,075

I'm not sure if I've seen this.

00:48:28,075 --> 00:48:29,435

I'm sure I've seen it before.

00:48:29,435 --> 00:48:34,445

I just maybe wasn't paying attention, but

she plays the flight attendant gene, who

00:48:34,475 --> 00:48:36,225

is very helpful to the special ops team.

00:48:36,775 --> 00:48:38,535

Okay, here's what I found interesting.

00:48:38,705 --> 00:48:40,025

Steven Seagal.

00:48:40,395 --> 00:48:40,725

Okay.

00:48:40,725 --> 00:48:44,210

He is who I remembered

being in this movie.

00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:49,790

He plays Lieutenant

Colonel Austin Travis and

00:48:51,026 --> 00:48:51,356

Robin: Excellent.

00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:57,400

Katie: so he actually in the end, the end

credits, Steven Seagal is listed second,

00:48:57,586 --> 00:48:58,716

Robin: Second build!

00:48:58,716 --> 00:48:59,306

Yeah!

00:49:00,050 --> 00:49:04,960

Katie: but he was not listed

at all in the opening credits.

00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:05,960

Did you notice that?

00:49:06,426 --> 00:49:09,906

Robin: I thought it said Anne

Steven Seagal cause we were

00:49:10,256 --> 00:49:11,496

And maybe I'm wrong.

00:49:11,770 --> 00:49:12,140

Katie: maybe.

00:49:12,210 --> 00:49:13,167

I mean, maybe I missed

00:49:13,366 --> 00:49:17,296

Robin: We Cause I was watching it with

a couple siblings and my boyfriend

00:49:17,296 --> 00:49:22,051

and we were like John Leguizamo's

name was first in the opening credits?

00:49:22,111 --> 00:49:23,081

That's wild.

00:49:23,081 --> 00:49:26,101

And we were trying to figure out why,

and then about 15 minutes into the

00:49:26,101 --> 00:49:27,561

movie, we were like, oh, that's why.

00:49:28,925 --> 00:49:30,985

Katie: Yeah, I had not recalled that.

00:49:30,985 --> 00:49:31,665

We'll get into

00:49:31,781 --> 00:49:31,891

Robin: Yeah,

00:49:31,905 --> 00:49:32,125

Katie: in a

00:49:32,151 --> 00:49:32,371

Robin: yeah, Yeah,

00:49:32,411 --> 00:49:33,701

not this whole anything.

00:49:33,705 --> 00:49:38,225

Katie: yeah, no, no, no but to your

point joglet John Leguizamo plays.

00:49:38,365 --> 00:49:42,605

His name is rat special

forces guy and listeners.

00:49:42,605 --> 00:49:45,895

We talked about him because

he was in to Wong Fu.

00:49:46,095 --> 00:49:47,505

So we talked about him in that episode.

00:49:48,265 --> 00:49:49,135

Oliver Platt.

00:49:49,185 --> 00:49:53,095

We also talked about in

a previous made episode.

00:49:53,435 --> 00:49:59,005

He plays the airplane engineer,

Cahill is his name, he was also in

00:49:59,015 --> 00:50:02,335

Tall Tale with Patrick Swayze, so

listen to that episode if you haven't.

00:50:03,345 --> 00:50:07,325

Speaking of Cappy, Joe Morton Cappy.

00:50:07,705 --> 00:50:11,715

He's another one of the Special Forces

guys, and he specializes in bombs.

00:50:13,215 --> 00:50:17,055

He looked kind of familiar to me, but

I couldn't place him, but you might

00:50:17,055 --> 00:50:23,275

know him from, he was in Terminator 2,

Zack Snyder's Justice League, tons of

00:50:23,275 --> 00:50:28,755

TV work including, I didn't watch the

show, but maybe I should now Rowan Pope.

00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:31,840

Did you guys see that show?

00:50:32,131 --> 00:50:32,931

Robin: Oh, I

00:50:33,010 --> 00:50:35,260

Katie: must, that must be her

either husband or brother.

00:50:37,611 --> 00:50:39,981

Robin: Has been, but it must have

been after I stopped watching.

00:50:39,981 --> 00:50:42,501

I watched the first

season and a half of it.

00:50:43,001 --> 00:50:43,331

Katie: Yeah.

00:50:43,331 --> 00:50:47,991

And then apparently he was also

in speed playing the captain

00:50:48,011 --> 00:50:49,861

of a squad who defuses bombs.

00:50:50,231 --> 00:50:52,611

So must be his specialty.

00:50:53,921 --> 00:50:56,151

Zabe: This guy is Oh boy.

00:50:56,151 --> 00:50:57,611

He has a lunatic.

00:50:58,026 --> 00:51:02,256

He . So, Joe Morton is a, I mean, I

don't mean we love Joe Morton, right?

00:51:02,306 --> 00:51:03,146

He's a fine actor.

00:51:03,366 --> 00:51:06,061

In all honesty, he was great in T two.

00:51:06,361 --> 00:51:11,306

He brought a lot of humanity to that

role as the the, the dude who's about to

00:51:11,696 --> 00:51:14,686

bring about the AI overlords in Skynet.

00:51:16,096 --> 00:51:18,446

However he is a method actor.

00:51:19,366 --> 00:51:25,746

And in this movie, I mean, are we

giving away some spoilers here?

00:51:25,786 --> 00:51:26,206

Because

00:51:26,221 --> 00:51:26,351

Katie: it?

00:51:26,391 --> 00:51:28,921

I, I think I know where you're

going, but please tell us.

00:51:29,456 --> 00:51:37,786

Zabe: so in this movie he, he gets

a spinal cord injury and spins 90

00:51:37,786 --> 00:51:43,096

percent of the very long two hour movie

straps to a gurney through duct tape.

00:51:43,906 --> 00:51:48,766

And as a method actor, he

spent the entire 43 days.

00:51:49,261 --> 00:51:55,321

That they filmed this movie duct taped

to a gurney as an acting as if he in

00:51:55,321 --> 00:51:57,301

real life had a spinal cord injury.

00:51:58,371 --> 00:52:03,661

So when shooting wraps for this movie

his muscles has had atrophy to the

00:52:03,681 --> 00:52:07,851

point that when he walked out he

tore both of his Achilles tendons.

00:52:08,361 --> 00:52:08,581

Katie: Oh

00:52:08,581 --> 00:52:08,681

it's

00:52:08,731 --> 00:52:09,041

Zabe: So,

00:52:09,051 --> 00:52:09,321

Katie: them.

00:52:09,361 --> 00:52:09,591

Oh my

00:52:09,631 --> 00:52:15,261

Zabe: yeah, so he suffered

really life altering injuries

00:52:16,321 --> 00:52:20,191

method acting as a person who

suffered life altering injuries.

00:52:20,806 --> 00:52:25,556

So that can be taken acting a

little bit too far, but he's great.

00:52:25,786 --> 00:52:26,866

He he's good.

00:52:26,866 --> 00:52:28,356

Even in this movie, he's good.

00:52:29,401 --> 00:52:31,671

Katie: I really don't know him very well.

00:52:31,671 --> 00:52:34,141

I need to start, I'm going to

have to watch maybe Scandal

00:52:34,141 --> 00:52:35,121

or something, but That's

00:52:35,176 --> 00:52:35,876

Zabe: I just called him.

00:52:36,081 --> 00:52:36,471

Katie: insane.

00:52:36,916 --> 00:52:37,096

Zabe: Yeah.

00:52:37,096 --> 00:52:40,206

I just called him T2 guy the whole

time when I was watching the movie

00:52:40,476 --> 00:52:41,036

in my head.

00:52:41,036 --> 00:52:41,826

But yeah, I,

00:52:41,851 --> 00:52:42,751

Katie: in so long.

00:52:42,791 --> 00:52:43,221

Okay.

00:52:43,261 --> 00:52:44,191

yeah, I, have to rewatch.

00:52:44,566 --> 00:52:45,626

Zabe: but, but he's really good.

00:52:45,636 --> 00:52:46,546

That dying scene.

00:52:46,546 --> 00:52:47,556

He does in T2.

00:52:47,916 --> 00:52:48,236

It's good.

00:52:48,266 --> 00:52:48,776

It's good work.

00:52:49,276 --> 00:52:52,866

Katie: We have a sir, we

have a sir in, in this movie.

00:52:52,916 --> 00:52:59,726

So there's the main terrorist guy

who his name is El Said Yaffa.

00:53:00,936 --> 00:53:04,546

He's the terrorist leader and

he's played by Andreas Katsoulas.

00:53:05,446 --> 00:53:09,606

actually talked about him cause

he was in the next of kin episode.

00:53:10,636 --> 00:53:15,006

And then his I don't know if it was his

like secondhand, his Lieutenant of the.

00:53:15,466 --> 00:53:21,696

Terrorist group, Naji Hassan

is played by a Sir David

00:53:23,926 --> 00:53:26,466

Suchet, I believe is how you pronounce it.

00:53:26,556 --> 00:53:27,816

Robin: That's David Suchet?

00:53:28,246 --> 00:53:29,126

Katie: Yeah.

00:53:29,376 --> 00:53:30,396

Robin: Oh my gosh.

00:53:30,716 --> 00:53:32,276

Katie: David Suchet,

00:53:32,526 --> 00:53:33,026

Robin: yeah,

00:53:33,446 --> 00:53:34,596

Katie: Poirot!

00:53:34,676 --> 00:53:35,346

yeah, Yeah!

00:53:35,646 --> 00:53:36,296

TV show.

00:53:36,376 --> 00:53:36,826

Mm hmm.

00:53:36,916 --> 00:53:39,266

Robin: I'm you're blowing my mind here.

00:53:39,276 --> 00:53:41,966

I knew him, but I didn't

even clock that it was him.

00:53:41,986 --> 00:53:42,806

I never looked it up.

00:53:43,466 --> 00:53:43,856

Wow.

00:53:45,316 --> 00:53:45,546

Katie: Yeah.

00:53:45,546 --> 00:53:51,136

I mean, he's like a stage actor too, known

for A Perfect Murderer, The Bank Job and

00:53:51,136 --> 00:53:53,146

that Bat TV series, which I've not seen.

00:53:53,346 --> 00:53:54,176

BAFTA nominee.

00:53:55,321 --> 00:53:59,791

he didn't look familiar to me, but

he's like very well accomplished.

00:54:00,156 --> 00:54:00,476

Robin: Yeah.

00:54:01,481 --> 00:54:03,521

Zabe: I thought it was a

name like David Choucher.

00:54:03,701 --> 00:54:05,401

He'd be the lead singer of La Bouche.

00:54:05,961 --> 00:54:06,391

Katie: Yeah.

00:54:06,631 --> 00:54:07,421

Good callback.

00:54:07,441 --> 00:54:08,151

I like it.

00:54:08,456 --> 00:54:09,086

Robin: Really good.

00:54:09,521 --> 00:54:14,021

Katie: And then a very familiar face

to me because I love Law and Order SVU.

00:54:14,251 --> 00:54:15,221

BD Wong

00:54:15,596 --> 00:54:16,306

Robin: Yes!

00:54:16,751 --> 00:54:19,851

Katie: Louie, one of the

other special forces people.

00:54:20,401 --> 00:54:22,281

Zabe: A lot of Asian men named Louie.

00:54:22,711 --> 00:54:23,401

Katie: Louie.