In this episode of Engaging Truth, host Pastor Rob Bailey sits down with Pastor Mark Hunsaker of Hope Lutheran Church in Austin, Texas, to explore what it means to live in Jesus’ “upside down kingdom.” As Mark steps into a new call in a rapidly changing, multicultural neighborhood, he shares how God is reshaping both his congregation and his own heart for mission.

From removing barriers to build relationships, to creating spaces for prayer and honest conversation, this episode highlights how the Gospel moves forward through humility, persistence, and dependence on Jesus.

If you’ve ever felt stretched by change or unsure how to engage the people around you, this conversation will encourage you to trust God, keep praying, and step boldly into the opportunities He’s already placing in front of you.