Ali and Cherie’ talk all about gracefully changing and the path forward.

About the Guest:

Cherie’ Burgess could best be described as a collector of knowledge in ancient practices of healing. She comes from a long line of healers, medicine women, and animal correspondents.

Searching for alternative ways to help her family heal, Cherie began her journey of exploring

and being certified in several alternative modalities of healing and spirituality.

She first studied Reiki and became a Reiki master, then Theta healing, Chrystal healing, and began studying animal communication. She became an Archangelic Life Coach, Access Consciousness, Bars/Body Process practitioner, and then went on to study Akashic Records reading and Galactic Activations practitioner. She is also an Angel card reader.

In all things Cherie’ leads first in love. She creates a safe space free of judgement and acts as a conduit and partner with the Divine, in her readings and healing practice.

Cherie Burgess - Akashic Record Reader and Intuitive Healer | Facebook

gracefullychanging@yahoo.ca

About the Host:

Alison Perry-Davies (Ali) is intentional about Finding Joy in her life

Sustaining a brain injury, diagnosed with PTSD and raising a daughter with a variety of challenges, Ali decided there had to be more to life than what she was experiencing and began her journey to find more joy.

Ali’s belief is that wherever we come from, we have all known some level of pain, loss, and trauma, these things do not need to define us. She doesn’t ignore that these things have happened; however, she decided this is not the way her story ends. Using integrated creative therapies along with sound and vibrational therapies she continues to explore and share complimentary healing modalities.

Ali is a recent winner of the WOW Woman of Worth 2023 award for "Community Spirit" sponsored by Global TV

Ali hosts the podcast, Find Your Joy. She is also a co-author in 2 WOW (Woman Of Worth) Books as well as a Family Tree series book on Mother Son relationships. She went on to write her own book,

“The Art of Healing Trauma; Finding Joy through Creativity, Spirituality and Forgiveness” which went to number one best seller in seven categories on Amazon. 

A motivational speaker, singer/songwriter, poet, blogger and author, Ali also shares her thoughts and ideas through her blog and website at aliwayart.com

Ali continues to use humour and compassion to invite, inspire and encourage others to Find Their Joy.

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No sleep. Let it sweep you off your feet.

Hi, you're listening to find your joy. If you're looking for ways to thrive rather than survive in a world that can seem rather chaotic, you're in the right place. We will be sharing stories of our own, as well as those from guests who have found ways to bring hope, healing and freedom into places where trauma has impacted them. I'm Ali, author of the art of healing trauma, and I'm here to remind you that life is sweet. Now, let's dive in and find ways to create our joy. Hi, this is Ali and this is find your joy. And I'm very happy to say that today is part two with the fabulous the amazing the love bomb, which is Cherie’ Burgess, intuitive healer extraordinaire, hello, Cherie’

Hello Ali. So nice to be back. And very thank you so much for your kind introduction.

Ah, well, you know, here a person who I have a lot of love and, and a lot of history a lot of history with. And, and it's it's really nice to have somebody here that I have a lot of history with me, you know, I love meeting new people and I love all of that too. But when I have someone that I have a long history with, who I've watched, grow and change and learn and evolve. There's a there's a special way that that works for me because I I guess it's well first of all, it's well it's not like I made you in the back on a kit that I'm proud of you that way but I'm I'm I'm proud to call you my friend I'm I'm it's been really quite a blessing just to watch as you've grown and grown and grown and and, and they had so many things that could have taken you out over the years, right, there's been a lot of, you're a person who's who's intimately known pain and intimately known grief and intimately known what it's like to watch your family suffer. And through all that I have witnessed as you have chosen, to instead of have that take you out, you have found ways to incorporate love. I would say that that's basically your love bomb. And I think that's that's how I see how your healing works. Like you've studied different modalities, you studied many things. And it always comes from a place of love with you. And I and I've, I've seen how it is with me, but I've seen how you've conducted yourself with absolute strangers. And because it comes from a place of love, how can anything but something beautiful and healing fall from that?

See, yeah, that's, that's very true. Um, thank you for, for saying that. Yeah, like, I try very hard to have a non judgmental space to create a safe place for people. Because they do have questions and they do have worries and they in they, they want to heal. And some places that we heal from are kind of ugly places. And they're scary places, and they're places that you're not proud of. And we've all gone through that. So to have a safe capsule to be in while you are holding space for someone to heal, because I don't do the healing. They heal themselves. All I am is like a facilitator. And I may ask some questions that that, you know, allow them to explore where they would like to go and what they would like to do, because it is about my client. It's not about me and why? Well, you should do this because I said so. That that for me isn't how it works. It's where I meet you wherever you are. And if it gets a little messy while that gets a little messy. It's okay. The fact that you don't want to be there anymore is the thing that we need to focus on. And how do we get you to where you want to be?

Yeah, that's really beautiful, you know, and I Ihram you're talking and all I can think of is I didn't think I could love you any more than I heard you. And you're young but but that's true. I love that when you say that when people come to us they often become and they're not. I love that they often will come in shame, or in that pain and they or embarrassment, or whatever it is that they're even in this situation to begin with. And it's true. Just you create this little space that they feel free to share, whatever it is they need to share, but more importantly, to receive what they need to receive.

Yes, and you're very right, they do come expecting to be judged. Yeah, because we judge ourselves really, firstly. So even if they don't think when they're embarrassed, they, they sort of project that you're going to be embarrassed for them, or you're going to judge them, or you're going to think they're not worthy, or, or, or whatever it is. Because we all have those stories in our heads of like, you know, I'm not, I'm not a good person, or I yelled at somebody or, you know, things like that. And that's just part of being human is being human is messy. So, we say things off the top of our head, sometimes when we're angry, or we, you know, say something unkind when we're maybe not in a good mood. And, and our healing is very, it can be very profound. Especially when it comes from a place of I don't want to be like this anymore. I would like to do something different, right?

Yes, yes. I just can't be like this anymore. That matters most. It's painful. And it's a it's such a sacred, a beautifully sacred space to be in. It doesn't always feel like it when you're there, of course, but it's a beautifully sacred place to be where you're just, I can't, I just can't be like this one more moment. And breathe.

Yeah, and that's sometimes what it takes, is to be in so much pain, that we can't stay where we are, and we have to go thanks. And that we have to do something different, because we just can't suffer. And, you know, it's when people come for help they're in, they're in a very vulnerable state, they're vulnerable, and they're raw, and they're open, and they're bleeding sometimes. And they just, they just need someone to hold space for them. And to, to help them and you know, and as healers, that's what we do, we're all just walking each other home. The best way that we know how, and we're all the same, I mean, I might be three steps ahead of you on the path, or you might be 10 steps ahead of me, or there could be six people behind you shine your light to guide those coming behind you, as you hope that those in front of you are shining their light bright enough so that you can stumble along the path to your healing as well. Right. Right. And it is it's it's a very beautiful, vulnerable, humbling place to be able to assist them another fellow traveler, along the path. Right. And

I love that and you know, on part one of this we talked about, you know, Reiki and and angel card reading and energy work and energy healing and, and all of that and then then you can I was gonna say you moved on to but that would not be the correct way to say that you incorporated or evolved into some other things that you did and before we even start talking about the Kashuk records and galvanic activating, I'm going to I'm just going to share with our listeners that so you know, I'm pretty open with I've come My background is was Christianity and I still walk that and for me, it has joined in and incorporated and grown and done whatever morphed evolved into that i i Welcome other things along with that. I feel like I can love Jesus and I can also believe in these other things and And, and be fine with that. But I'm going to say that now when us first started exploring into all of this stuff, and we're friends, and of course, you're sharing that with me. Now, I shared really openly with you when we first we first did a Kashuk records. I was like, I don't I don't know what I think about that. I don't know if I believe in reincarnation, I don't know if I even know if it's okay if I do this. And you said, Okay, well, we don't have to do it. And I said, No, it's not that I don't want to do it. I'm just trying to process it all. And you're just very, so gentle with me, and didn't want to disturb any of anything that I might be holding. Wait, this is a thing I want to keep holding on to. And I say that because you know what, there's a whole bunch of people just like me, who, you know, even in the stuff that I do, it was when I started really studying and being certified in sound therapies and vibrational therapies and energetic healing and all of that. At first, I was a little bit nervous. Now I can say for my part of it, I was amazed at how well I could blend and see how they worked together. How it wasn't separate. It didn't need to be I had, I believe, I believe previously falsely about being frightened by having anything else join me. Now I'm saying that because I know that some people who, who listen, they have similar backgrounds. And so I'm just saying that for me, you were so open and so kind and had absolutely no agenda to do anything other than explore that, it was so easy for me for me to go along and explore with you. So having said that, and now that I've had glorious, absolutely glorious and divine experiences through doing a cat having a Kashuk records read through you and of late the galvanic activations, which I would have thought just Oh, come on, what the heck am I doing? And then there I was there I was having praying first. Okay, is anything, please make sure. You know, I mean, that's just honestly where I come from. Right? So. So tell me, tell us all those of us who are I'm, I've had an Akashic Record readings by you on more than one occasion now. Always with beautiful results. And I still cannot say that I fully understand it any more than I would say I understand laying on of hymns, or prayer, or you energy work or sound any of it is it's sometimes beyond our understanding, because it's a beautiful, spiritual, sacred form of healing. I guess I'll just say that and tell us about it. Oh, please. And I'll really listen this time, and I'll take notes.

Here. Well, first, I want to thank you for being the guinea pig for just about anything I remember. Hey, I got this, I found out about this new thing. You got an hour? Yeah. And it's, for me, it's it's about oneness. I mean, we're all souls, we're all entities. Living, you know, in, in this case, it's, we're all spirit having a human experience. And sometimes it's, it's not pretty. I mean, we we get here, we don't know what we're doing. We have people telling us what we should be doing all around us and, and things. shape us as we, as we go through life. And we come in contact with different people and we learn. I mean, once you've come in contact with someone, you can't help but be changed. You know, like, and you come with a Christian background, and I come with, you know, a Catholic background, and yet we're able to find common ground. And we've even continued to find common ground as I have sort of drifted away from that experience and become spiritual enough in in a more natural way, I guess in Yeah,

no, I'd say that to it. And as I do my own thing, too. Yes, I guess. Yes. And I

think I mean, there's room for for everyone and The energy work itself transcends all of that. And it, it's not about that we have to agree 100% We all want to be good people, we all want to be loving people, we all want to be kind people and how we get there. I don't think it really matters, as long as our intention is to be better people today than we were yesterday. And now you get there is is how you get there. I mean, we're all just tripping and fumbling and bumping along, trying to find our way. And in terms of like, the Akashic Record is just an energetic record of your life. In the Bible, they would they have the book of life. And there's other religions and belief systems that have similar ways of communicating that concept. So it's essentially every thought or every action that you've ever had a plan that you make, before you you incarnate on, on the earth in this, these wonderful, movable meat suits that we get, that allow us to experience everything that's here. So there are a lot of things that can happen in our lifetime. And if you don't believe in reincarnation, that's totally fine. If you think this is your first rodeo, that's totally fine. But what I have found, doing these sessions for people, is that it's much more than what we think it is. Right. And there are many more experiences that we have had that that we just don't remember when we incarnate. So a lot of people will come in, they'll say I have money issues, you know, I just can't seem to get ahead. You know, I just have maybe three or $400 saved, and then my tie, I get a flat tire and my kid needs new glasses. And, and there, I am not back at square one, but even in the minus category, and I don't understand what it is. And what I have found is that there, there can be reasons why that is, and they can be from this lifetime. For an example, it might be just you're driving around town with your parents in the car, and you pass the nice section of town with all the big homes. And Jeez, you know, you hear your mom and dad talking. And dad might say, Well, I wouldn't want to be rich like that. You have to be a crook. Or you have to be unkind or you know, then something like that goes into your psyche, and it lodges itself there. It could be a past life issue where you were maybe in a religious order, and you did take a vow of poverty. We don't when we pass away, those Olsson vows and commitments don't just disappear, they're still there. But we're not necessarily aware of it. So through the Akashic records, you can you can find these things out. And you can go back on a timeline that says, hey, this is the thing that I'm having trouble with. Can you take me to the time where this started? And then we can take a look at that. And and find out that, you know, maybe in another lifetime, we were really quite wealthy, but we use that wealth to subjugate and hurt other people. So we might have gotten to a point at some time, in that lifetime, where we've said, Well, I'm never going to do that, again, I'm not going to have money, I can't handle this responsibility. Right. Now that runs in the background. And we're not consciously aware of it. But it's like a background operating system on a computer. It's always doing stuff, we just aren't aware of what it is because we're on Facebook scrolling along. So we can go back to when that happened. And we can take a look at it. And we can ask what can we do to change this? Some some oaths, it's you may see a bowl in front of you and you may see an oath on written on a piece of parchment. And you may just put that in the bowl and have it burn away and that's how it gets released. There's no Many different ways of doing that. Or you can just say, I see a contract in front of me. And I'm going to mark that complete. Complete, all the lessons have been learned, I no longer have to deal with this again. And, you know, and that's how that's dealt with. And I have had clients that have come back and said, hey, you know, we worked on this money thing. And I ended up with a refund check for something that I'd forgotten about. And it was in the mail when I got home that day. And you might think, oh, yeah, sure, Cherie, that that happens, but we have, I mean, unless you're open to exploring that kind of thing, you may never find that out. And then you may go your whole life, you know, always being $1, short and a day late kind of thing. So it's interesting to me that we can, can deal with that kind of thing. If it's something from this lifetime, we can go back and, and change that belief, so that it doesn't affect you in the same way anymore. Right. So yeah, that that part's kind of, there's healing that you can do in the Akashic records. I have a friend that does. And we've done together, Reiki and Akashic records at the same time, where you open up the Akashic Record and you do a Reiki healing while you're in the records, and that can include past life things as well. And it's pretty, pretty fantastic. Like, I just find this all fascinating is like, who I didn't know, I didn't know, I could do that. I didn't know that was even a thing, you know, like, right, it's, it's very fascinating to me, the different aspects and how we can deal with them using different modalities. Galactic activations are another thing where we, you know, do a bit of a meditation, and then we go up and talk to the Galactic Council. And we can ask for healing or we can ask for situations to be resolved. And that, again, is turning it over to somebody who's got more of a bird's eye view. I mean, when you're in the Akashic records, for example, that's their your Akashic Record guides. They've been your librarians for lifetime after lifetime after lifetime. And they want the best for you. They want what you want for yourself. And they've got all the information, whereas us as human beings are very limited in what we know. So they, they will never do anything that you don't want them to do. And they will never do anything that's not for your highest and best good. So that's comforting to a lot of people. And the Galactic Council is something new that I've just learned how to do. But again, they have access to so much knowledge that we don't have access to and they know exactly what we need, because they're part part of our team that cheers us on. Right. So yeah, that part's been been kind of interesting and and just another aspect of healing that I never really knew was there until I stumbled upon it. And and when I think want to learn a little bit,

I think you what I find is what I've been finding interesting with like a Kashuk records, I'd never heard of a Kashuk records before you right? I didn't even know of that. And first of all, it's an ancient thing, not a new thing. So there's so there's that. And then I was amazed it, I think I was the last person to know about it. When I when I started talking about it, then everyone's like, Yeah, everybody else seemed to know about this about me. And I thought, here I go living under a rock again, I didn't, I didn't know about them. And so basically, it just briefly just walk us through a little bit about what it looks like. Someone I mean I my experiences or my experiences with you, but I think it'd be best if you just say, so a person you get on a call with a person and you're going to do a Kashuk records with him. Just very briefly, what does it kind of look like and what does a person need to do about that? Or what are they going to do with you?

Okay, well, first off, we're just going to talk a little bit about it. A lot of like, as you say a lot of people haven't really heard about it. So you just kind of explain a little bit about what it is No, everyone is different. Some people are very visual. Some people just know things. Some people hear things. So what And we're discussing the kinds of issues that that you want to address during this session, I will sort of get a read on on what's kind of required. So we may start off with just a simple grounding exercise. And then I may take you on a meditative guided experience into the Akashic records, I may just tap in to the records, and, and just give you the information that you need. And it'll all depend on who I'm reading for. I'm trying to think, now, the, the Akashic records are essentially just a great big library. So what I will tap into that with a prayer that I do, and then I'll just ask, like, sometimes people say, Oh, I don't know, just whatever. And so then I will, I'll just ask for them to bring me the book that that is most appropriate for today's session. And then we will just, sometimes I can see sometimes I just know, it kind of depends on the person. Sometimes we're meeting the Akashic guides in the library. And sometimes we're out in nature. And sometimes we're, you know, just where we are. It is, again, it's, it's a very unique and individual process for me. We work with my guides, we work with your guides, and you may need healing, in which case your healer guides will come in and they will do a healing. And then I will tell you, Okay, there's Archangel Michael here today, there's Archangel Raphael here today. Archangel Raphael is going to do a healing on your chakra system. Archangel Michael is cutting some chords to a situation that no longer serve you. In this lifetime, so again, depending on what you've asked, work with these things will come up and, and we just, I don't know, you get in the roller coaster. And it goes where it goes. And we who, ah, as we as we process through, but it's, it's a very it's a very safe way to explore. And if you're open minded things can be quite profound when when you've had a reading with a healing or, or just to even just understand, you know, why? why something is the way it is in your life. I worked with one woman that was looking for another committed relationship to be in her husband had passed away. And she was, you know, telling me that a lot of the men that come into her life are just basically one night stance. And that wasn't something that she wanted to be part of. partaken. Right. So when we went into the records, we kind of discovered that, you know, her husband had passed away. However, the the wedding vows that she that they had made to each other had not had not been completed, or, or finished. So energetically, you're a married woman, and you put off energetically married vibes. Much different than the vibes that we put off at 17. With somebody like me, the energy is very different. So when you're putting off married vibes, but you're still engaging with single men, right, the only thing energetically that you have available to give them as a one night stand because you are committed to a relationship. Right? So I said to her, Would you be willing to, you know, release yourself from your vowel? And she said, No. And I went, okay. So what else can we do here? While there wasn't anything that we could do to change the situation she wanted to change? Because what was required was not something that she was prepared to do. Right. Right. Right. Right. So and that's, that's totally fine. It's your session. I don't have a point of view about how it ends. I just want you to get what you want for yourself. So there was that. I've had other sessions where people have declined the offer to be released from what's holding them back. Because they're not, they haven't studied it enough, or they're not comfortable letting it go on Um, and it's kind of like, I says, Do you do you, when you take the garbage out on garbage day? Do you just take the bag out and put it in your bin and then just walk away? Or do you have to stop halfway open up the garbage bag, and then pick out each individual thing and make sure that's what you want to throw out? And there is no right or wrong. It's just different ways you do it. Yeah, different ways of doing things, right. And sometimes, people aren't really cognitively aware of that. So when you bring it to their attention, it presents a possibility for them. And they're free to choose that possibility or not.

Right? And when you're saying that, you know, as usual, I have so many five things going through my mind works, right? But I'm like, yes, because bottom line is, none of us would ever have a problem. If we were able to just pick up or put down everything we should firm that would serve us the best. So we all now this, this is maybe a more? What's the word I'm looking for? It's it's just a maybe a clearer picture, or a more definitive way of the person actually declining? To get because I'm thinking about my own self, right? Well, I say I want to lose weight, but I haven't. So clearly, there is something I'm not willing to let go of yet. I just have to, that's, if I if I say there's one thing or if I, or if I said I wanted to save money, or if I said I wanted to travel to a spot, it doesn't matter what it is, whatever there is that I have decided that I want yet, I'm not attaining. Clearly, I am choosing to hold on or to put that, like, I'm holding on to something that isn't serving me. And when you're talking about doing the Akashic records with them, and walking them through that, if the person who just would love to hear if there was ever any resolution with a woman with with the vows, but there was there was for a person who says, yeah, no, I'm not ready to do that, which is okay, because I can totally understand that that might be really hard to do that. Or a person who's not willing to let go of the certain thing. But the way you're doing it, we would be required to actually look at the thing, and actually decline letting it go. That's that's how they say it a whole nother level, like that. of a reality check.

Yep. And there is no right or wrong. Yeah, there is no right or wrong. Not a right or wrong, but a reality check. Yeah. And you may not be willing to let that go today. But maybe, then a couple months, he might be maybe you wake up tomorrow morning and go, Gosh, I should have done that. You know?

Well, I think what the invitation is, and that's the word I'm going to use for this, I think the invitation is, is to take a look at it, because maybe right now I'm not ready, or not willing or not able or the you know, fill in whatever word might go there. And that's okay. But even in recognizing or choosing to not do it, that's gonna be a shift, because now I'm going to have to walk out the next days or hours, weeks, months, years, even whatever it is, knowing that I chose not to. And that in itself could be the catalyst that creates the desire and the willingness to make that commitment to myself. Just by doing that, so that I just does what came to me when you said that, that how powerful that could be, and maybe even especially for the person who chose not to at that time, because they know they chose not to. And so there's going to be that period of time where they like you said, wake up the next day or the next week or whatever, go wait, I should have done this. Well, that's okay. You can do that now.

Yeah, exactly. It's it's never too late to make another choice. Right ever. So you know, and if it if it doesn't, if it doesn't feel right to you, there's a reason why it doesn't feel right to you. And there's maybe something more that you need to explore with that. And then you need the time and space to be able to do that. There are some people that the you I can't even finish my sentence. They're like, yep, is gone. I'm done. You know, and then there's everything in between. And again, you It's it's your journey, your walk on this path. And I mean, I'll walk with you for a time. And we'll, we'll try to do as much as we can. But again, it's it's a free will universe. And if you're not ready, then you're not ready. And that's totally okay. We can work on something else, but at least then you're aware that you're attracting what you're attracting because of that. And, you know, and then then it may be that an easier to, to take to like, oh, okay, well, here I am with no money again, because I didn't want to get rid of that bout.

Right. You know, and,

and then at some point you you have to evaluate like, how's that working for you? Honey glade? Yes, that's right. You know, are you ready to change that? Yeah. And if you're not, that's okay, too. And if you are, well, you know where I am. So,

and then at one point, the fear of change is outweighed by the fear of not changing. Yeah, I mean, basically, that's, that's kind of as a girl who has not always been a fan of change. Oh, say it isn't so. But I can see that, that how that could work. And it's really amazing. And here's another thing I'm going to say, because we're getting again, close to the end of our time here. What's amazing when someone contacts you, when I contact you, and Lord knows, I do that quite often, when someone contacts you, it's sort of like, if you, you come to, if you if I, okay, I'm gonna say this, I have a person that I've dealt with for many years. And he, his education, he was a pharmacist, we're talking Jerry now, right? You have assist, who was trained in homeopathic medicine, and also Chinese medicine. And then he went on to get his PhD in restorative medicine. So when you went to go see that person, it doesn't matter which of those modalities you went to see, you automatically got all of that. So what if I went to him for a homeopathic thing, I also had the restorative medicine guy, and the Chinese medicine guy, and the and the pharmacist, I was seeing all those people because he had all of those, why I'm saying this is, when someone comes to see you, whether that's in person, or mostly these days, it's going to be through zoom, or whatever else they used to contact you through there. See, when they come to see you, they're seeing you or automatically they come for a Kashuk records, you're still the Reiki person, and you're still the energetic healer, and you're still the angel card reader. And you're still the Access Consciousness bars and body process. And you're still the galactic activation person, like you have all those things. So when we study many things, what's wonderful about that is that's just now how we process and how we see the world. So what I really encourage people is that whatever it is that you might be curious about or healing you want in your area, or part of me in your lives, or certain areas that you would like to get more information or healing from. This is why someone who is like you a curious person, a curious person never is really satisfied with taking that one course. And, and doing that one thing, because you're always going to be reading and studying and learning and expanding and evolving. So I would really recommend to Fievel, again, there's going to be lots of ways I'm going to be sharing with you of how to contact Sheree. And you know, whether that's through Facebook or whatever ways that that we're going to have here for you to contact her, um, to remember that that's one of the things that you bring, that you bring with you to any session that you're having with a client is if they're going to do an angel card reading, you're still going to have all those other things that you're bringing in. That's what that's what makes you so fabulous, my darling.

Yeah, once you know you can't not know. But if you do come to me for a Reiki session, you're going to get a Reiki session. You know, if you do come to me to have your bars run, you're gonna get your bars run. It's all what the client desires, right?

So thank you for that. Thank you for that. clarification, I guess what I was thinking is you have that knowledge with you, but you're not going to cross over in what you're doing without their permission or their request. Got it. Because we know that I have that experience once, right? I was having massage in the middle of the massage. I didn't even know anything about this was many years ago, I didn't know anything. I just felt energetically a shift. And after the session, I said to her, at this certain time, something happened, something changed. And she smiled. She was very proud of herself. She said, Yes, I started to do Reiki on you. And I I was I was quite taken aback. I You didn't ask me permission. You never said anything to me. You just switched what was happening? I felt something different, because I'm a sensitive little monkey. But so thank you for that clarification. That's, that's really, that's important. Thank you for that. And I, my apologies, if I misspoke. I guess what I was thinking was that you bring all of this knowledge, but that doesn't mean that you are going to just start sliding in between the two and just do whatever you want with the person.

know if I'm getting information. For example, if I'm doing a card reading, and I'll say, you know, Archangel Raphael has just showed up and he's asking to recalibrate your chakras for example. Would that be okay? Because it's your session. You're right. You've decided that that's what you want. And it's not up to me to not give you what you asked for. I always feel that, I mean, I'll give you the option. Because I can't I can't stop. When they show up, they show up. And all I can do is say, Hey, we got company, he'd like to, or they'd like to do this, like, are you okay with that? Right? And you're okay with that? Great. And if you're not, then I'll just say, I'm sorry, you're gonna have to come back another time? Because it's, it's not okay. And, you know, there are some people that, that don't respect those boundaries, but I'm not one of them. It's your session. When you when I go and I purchase an orange, I don't want to peel it and see an apple like that. That doesn't make sense to me. So if he says, but apples are nice. Yeah, they are. And they are, but not when I'm expecting an orange.

Yes, no, that's great. And I again, I'm just I'm very grateful that you clarified because I didn't. Yeah, that's beautiful. And that's, and that's once again, who you are.

Yeah, kinda,

really. Oh, my gosh. Well, thank you so much, again, for sharing the wonder that is you and a little bit more about the things that that you do and that that you've explored and, and what you have to offer people. I really appreciate you and I appreciate your time.

I appreciate you. And I'm so grateful that you asked me. Yeah, I love talking to you. I know

it's so fun. Oh my gosh. Well, again, this is Ali, this is find your joy. There will be ways I will have in the in the show notes. I'll have ways that you can contact Sheree for yourself and get one or all of her magical wonderful things that she does. For now. Thanks very much. Be well and know that you are loved. Take good care.