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FM #954 - Making Sense of Climate #24 - 02/21/23
Episode 9547th March 2023 • Franklin Matters Radio • Steve Sherlock
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This session of the radio show shares my conversation with Ted McIntyre, Franklin resident and climate activist via the Zoom conference bridge Tuesday, February 21, 2023.  We were joined by the Town of Franklin Conservation Agent Breeka Li Goodlander and as you’ll hear, we had a great discussion.

In this episode we covered the following topics: 

  • Welcome Breeka Li to episode
  • Breeka Li provides her "road to Franklin Conservation Agent"
  • Open Space & Recreation update process underway
  • Franklin is basically a flood plain source for the Charles River
  • Role of wetlands, fragility of cycle, point source, non-point source
  • Climate grief, Skype a scientist
  • The cure to grief is to take action, to make a difference

This discussion continues our journey understanding the MA roadmap toward net zero and while it helps me “make sense of climate”, we hope it helps with your understanding as well. 

If you have climate questions or Franklin specific climate questions, send them in and we’ll try to answer them in a future session.  

Our recording runs about 45 minutes. Let’s listen to my conversation with Ted and Breeka Li. 


Links to references

Franklin Conservation page -> 

Open Space & Recreation Plan update -> 

Breeka Li’s Linkedin page -> 

The “Book of the Dead” that Breeki Li mentioned can be found 

See the page that collects all the “Making Sense of Climate” episodes -> 


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The music for the intro and exit was provided by Michael Clark and the group "East of Shirley". The piece is titled "Ernesto, manana"  c. Michael Clark & Tintype Tunes, 2008 and used with their permission.

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