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Welcome back everybody.

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Today, I'm joined by Rebecca from

Helena's Community Cats of SOWGA.

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We'll be talking about the important

work her organization does to help

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community cats and improve the lives

of cats throughout their region.

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Let's dive in.

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hi, Rebecca, and thank you

for coming on Animal Posse.

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Rebecca: You're welcome.

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Glad to be here.

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Dixie: I am looking forward to hear

about all the work that you do with

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Community Cats with your new 501[c][3].

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Tell us a little bit about yourself

how did you get involved with Community

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Cats, and if you can tell us- Okay

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a little bit about your nonprofit as well.

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Rebecca: Sure.

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So I have always been an animal lover,

and that's going back , since I was a kid.

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And between that and my mom's

encouragement to just give back to

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the community, I started fostering

animals years ago dogs and cats and

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found that my my dog doesn't care for

foster dogs in the house but has no

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problem having more cats in the house.

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So I switched solely to fostering cats.

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And I moved to Georgia from California a

little less than two years ago now, and

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I noticed here where I'm at in southwest

Georgia, there isn't a lot of focus on

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the cat situation that we've got here.

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We have quite a lot of animal

dumping that happens here.

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Not a lot of people are spaying and

neutering their cats or their dogs

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and so surprise litters happen and

people just get rid of the puppies.

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And so I started fostering dogs

actually again here because they

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would just be on the side of the road.

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But I found that there were plenty of

dog rescues, and when I say plenty,

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they are at their max just like our

humane societies are, but we have them

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and I wasn't seeing anyone focused

on the cat community and felt like

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that was an area of opportunity.

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So decided to take my energy and put

it into trying to figure out how to

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solve the cat problem that we've got

here, like I said, in southwest Georgia.

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So we've got many colonies of cats

and those are feral cats born into the

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colonies as well as dumped cats which

are potentially great for adoption.

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And so my original inspiration

was to be a rescue sanctuary

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TNR g- vet services, like really thought

I could jump in and solve all of the

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world's problems and have very quickly

realized I need to start somewhere.

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And the initial focus is on

TNR and and then bottle babies.

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Kittens that are either abandoned by

their mother or or taken by a human

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from the nest that the mother has

created and created a situation where

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a kitten is dependent on humans.

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That's the initial focus of the nonprofit

right now with grand plans to continue

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to evolve that over the years as we

become known and are successful in

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grant funds and things of that nature.

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When did

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Dixie: you start the nonprofit

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Rebecca: yeah.

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So we officially started October 2025,

and it is Helena's Community Cats of SWGA,

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which is what we call Southwest Georgia.

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Helena is my mom's name, and

so I did open it in her honor.

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As I mentioned, she's was

very philanthropic and gave

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to all kinds of situations.

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Wasn't necessarily a cat person,

which is everyone's first question.

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"Oh, did your mom love cats?"

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Nope.

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But she loved helping and so

decided to do it in her name.

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Dixie: So now I have to ask, since you

did come from California and you go

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to Georgia- Yeah … i'm in Louisiana,

and the kitten seasons that we have

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here , it's absolutely brutal right now.

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Every- Yes

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spring and summer it is brutal, but this

year it just seems even worse than ever.

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So we have it here because

we're so warm in the South, we

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have constant kitten season.

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We might get two months off which

is usually January, February,

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and then after that's it.

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We're back into kitten season.

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And we're lucky if we get

January and February off.

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How- Yeah … does Georgia compare to

California in terms of the number of cats

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and kitten seasons and that type of thing?

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Rebecca: So I would say Georgia

is more aligned with Louisiana, so

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definitely kitten season is always on.

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And additionally in California there, the

regulations around just animal control

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are much stricter or, and enforced maybe.

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Not totally clear on

the politics of it all.

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But I will say you are not getting

an animal in California outside of a

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breeder that isn't spayed or neutered.

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So whether it's a rescue, whether it's

a humane society, wherever that animal's

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coming from it's, you're not gonna have

an accidental litter in your backyard.

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And which is just already controlling

the pet population more than what

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we see here where there isn't a lot

of that oversight on animal control.

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And I just think about Bob Barker and

"The Price is Right," like every day now.

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I'm like, "Please help

control the pet population.

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Have your pet spayed or neutered."

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Because here I, I literally see it

driving down the road, the impact of

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not spaying and neutering your animals.

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Dixie: Yeah.

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And it's funny with the whole thing with

Bob Barker and "The Price is Right,"

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because when I was a child, that's what my

grandparents would watch every single day.

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So every summer- we were watching

"The Price is Right," and that

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message really came through.

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And I think that's why there's so

many people that's in my particular

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age bracket, I'm a Gen X-er, that-

Same … are so pro-spay and neuter.

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And I really- Yeah … wish that something

like that would come along for future

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generations because, it seems you just

don't see it like especially now, like

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with the younger people coming up, lot

of them just don't even think about it.

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They just don't understand

why they should do it.

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Rebecca: Yeah, and there's a lot of

incorrect teachings around it in terms

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of, "Oh if you spay, then your female

dog is gonna get breast cancer."

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And I've heard some real crazy

things that people have spread

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incorrectly about what will happen

if you do spay or neuter your pet.

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And it's oh my gosh, can we

gotta stop that noise as well.

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Dixie: It's just like

a never ending cycle.

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Rebecca: I will say that I have

noticed that here in Georgia,

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spaying and neutering is more

expensive than in California.

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So I don't know if there are subsidies

that happen in California for that.

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We're gonna finally have a low-cost clinic

opening here in August, but until then,

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it's very, in my opinion, expensive to

spay like a healthy young animal compared

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to what you'd pay on the West Coast.

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Dixie: Yeah.

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Now let me ask you too, when you said that

California is so much stricter I know-

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… like here all, of course, all the rescues,

all the shelters here, they are spaying

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and neutering before they go out the door.

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Unless it's going to a foster.

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If it's going to a foster, they're,

maybe they're too young for spay or

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neuter, but before they're ever adopted,

they are all spayed and neutered.

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Now, the problem that we have is people

finding kittens and picking the kittens

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up, which is a whole nother thing.

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… they'll find the kittens, they'll pick

the kittens up, they'll take on to

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social media to just give them away.

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Rebecca: Yes.

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Dixie: And that causes a huge problem

here, because even as a rescue, I have

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made the offer to help people, hey, at

least, let us help you get them spayed or

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neutered before they go to their new home.

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Or make the offer, hey, we can take

them, and a lot of the times they'll

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go with somebody else just because

it's oh that person commented first,

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and it's- … just unfortunate because

some people might have the intentions

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of spaying and neutering them, and they

don't realize that when they reach four

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months old, they can be reproducing.

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And so it's like surprise litter.

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And then other people have zero

intention of spaying and neutering.

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So how does California

combat that problem?

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Or do you see that happening as well?

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Rebecca: So there's so many

things I wanna cover in that area.

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Before California, but specifically

here, we are going to be much

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more proactive in education.

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So I'm connecting in with social groups

like the Girl Scouts of America and

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other groups around town where we can

come bring these cute little kittens

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that I constantly have in my life now,

grab the attention of folks and then

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teach them about how quickly they have

babies and just cat math these people

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to death so that they can really get it.

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Because I am one of those people.

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I was a 19-year-old, had my first

two cats, and all of a sudden had

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a pregnant cat, and I had no idea

that before one year old my cats

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could get each other pregnant.

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I had no idea.

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And ended up having three kittens

that I had to find homes for.

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And so luckily, that was enough years

ago that I've now had generations of cats

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that aren't reproducing accidentally,

but you don't know what you don't know.

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And so I do think education is a huge

responsibility of those of us who do know

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to go out and help spread the good word.

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I also have been like you on social

media trying to get my hands on those

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animals that are out there for free.

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I'm really concerned

about it for two reasons.

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One is the overpopulation, also the

potential of using those animals

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as bait animals in dog fighting.

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So I like just feel compelled

to try to get the animals into

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a safe space, spay and neuter

them, and really vet the adopters.

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So there's a lot going on here that I am

trying to get involved in , to hopefully

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Help in both of those directions.

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In California but one of the things

on social media with animals is a lot

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of pages didn't allow, and I actually

thought it was a Facebook rule the

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gifting or selling of animals on Facebook.

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And now being here and seeing it, it's

not a Facebook rule it was rules of pages

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that happen to be based out of California.

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And so that's one thing is there just

wasn't a pipeline of those animals.

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Now, California has other ways to get

a free animal, like Craigslist which

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is definitely a way that you could

you could get an animal that's not

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going through a shelter or a rescue

and therefore not spayed or neutered.

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But it's a lot harder there to just

find an just to scoop an animal up off

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the road, which here that is not hard.

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I could probably go do

it right now if I tried.

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So again, I think there's probably some

regulations and how those regulations

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are enforced is a big part of it.

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Yeah.

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And I did talk to the Georgia

Department of Ag about that.

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Not an official, but an employee

of the Department of Ag and asked

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about the lack of severity in

our pet reproduction laws here.

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And what I was told, and again, not

from an official point of view, but just

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from a person that works there, is that

because breeding of animals, whether it's

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hunting dogs or other working animals in

Georgia that is what's gonna keep those

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reproduction laws loose as they are.

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That they're not gonna have a if

you're in this category, you must

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spay and neuter, and if you're in this

category, you mustn't spay and neuter."

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And I don't know how much

truth there is to that.

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Again, haven't been here super long,

but I am getting more connected with

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the Humane Society and if I need to

help, do any kind of lobbying I'm happy

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to get active in that way as well.

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Dixie: Yeah, that's great.

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And it's great that you're

gonna be reaching out to

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all those organizations too.

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That's actually something that

I was thinking of doing myself,

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just because it is such a problem.

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And at least if you reach the kids

or the children, they go home-

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Yeah … and sometimes they can be very

adamant about things with the parents,

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Rebecca: yes.

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I've known people who have quit smoking

because their kids learned about how

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bad smoking is in school, and they come

home and, they're like, "Oh my gosh,

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you're gonna die because you smoke."

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And and parents, you hear that from

this little person that you love,

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it, changes your views on things.

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I just happen to be in a fortunate

situation where I am connected

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with people who are connected

with other people, right?

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And through whether it's through the

Rotary Club or through the Master

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Gardeners, through University of

Georgia, there's just a lot of people

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that are like-minded in terms of caring

about the community, the environment,

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education of others, and it all comes

together, , in one way, shape, or form.

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And and so it becomes applicable.

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So whether, you're talking to folks

about the importance of spaying and

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neutering cats because the impact they

could have on your bird population or

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the importance of spaying and neutering

cats because how quickly they, they

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can make kittens and how is your

family gonna care for those animals.

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There's a lot of ways to look at

how the reproduction process has

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an impact in our environment.

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Dixie: The area that you're in

Georgia, are you in a suburban area?

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Are you in a rural area?

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Rebecca: I think we're

considered a r- rural area.

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It feels like a suburb, but

there's no city, so it's like

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suburb and then country, so I

think that makes it rural, right?

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Dixie: I know in Louisiana, in the more

country-type areas, that's where we have

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the least amount of resources and the

biggest problem with people dumping pets.

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In fact- Yes … we have country property

we were planning to put our sanctuary on.

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And We're a cat rescue, but our first

three adoptions were actually dogs because

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we had puppies dumped on our property.

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Rebecca: The reason I didn't become

a sanctuary is when I went to the

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city to actually just to switch the

electric bill over to the nonprofit's

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name for the building that the cats

would be in they said "Wait a second.

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We, we can't have you doing that right

now without having somebody on-site or

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at least somebody patrolling 24 hours

on-site because of animal dumping."

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And and while a lot of people

were like, "That's not right.

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They shouldn't be getting involved with

that," I was like, "Oh, my goodness.

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No, I'm glad that they said that,"

because it didn't actually occur to

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me that people are gonna say, "Oh,

look, animal rescue," and all of

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a sudden that's a dumping ground.

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And so all of a sudden you've got these,

either cats that are running loose

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that are now either have been rehomed,

but they didn't know that they just

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got rehomed, or dogs running into the

street 'cause they just got dumped,

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and the building is on a busy road.

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And to me, that's the right thing to do.

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And until we have enough funds coming in

to be able to have 24-hour surveillance I

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can appreciate why we are not okay to have

a sanctuary in that particular location.

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I could do it outside this

city boundaries, right?

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Where you're not gonna have dogs

running into traffic if they're dumped.

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But but now I would not feel good

knowing that, we're not open on

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the weekend or something and there

could be an animal starving on the

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doorstep because nobody's there.

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And really have to think about the impact

of people knowing safe place to dump

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an animal means that somebody's gonna

have hands on that animal in a quick

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enough time that it won't be harmed.

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Dixie: Yeah, that definitely makes sense.

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I am foster-based right now.

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Our long-term goal is to build a sanctuary

up in the country and, but when I say in

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the country, we're really in the country.

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Our clos-closest neighbor

might be like a mile away.

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And but still, it's like out where that

is, you still see people dumping dogs.

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There's cats too, but like the dogs,

they dump on the side of country roads.

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Rebecca: Yeah.

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Dixie: It's so sad and, it's insane.

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And you try to look for an owner because,

you don't know what the situation is,

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but most of the time they are just

dumped, it's a accidental litter.

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They didn't want them,

so they just dump them.

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And it is very sad.

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And I've seen it too with the rescues

that we do have in the city that have

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physical locations, with the amount

of times, and even the shelters,

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they'll post videos of people

dumping animals, and it's really sad.

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Yeah.

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It really is.

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Rebecca: We have a bunch of dog

rescues here that are very active,

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but we have one specifically that

the founder is constantly the like

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almost 100% of the time, if someone

posts it's Peanuts and Friends.

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I don't know why, but that's where if

an animal's found or seen or whatever,

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It's almost always her that is going

wherever a dog has been posted, and she's

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picking that dog up, and she's picked

up just the skinniest starving dogs.

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She's picked up beat up dogs that looks

like they've been hit by cars, like

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just all kinds of terrible things.

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And she's always the one who is

rescuing them, and it's amazing.

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And she has a full dog rescue

kennels, like the whole nine yards.

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But , we don't have that for cats,

which is why I wanted to do the

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sanctuary with the cats because

it's a bit of the same thing where

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we, people are dumping them too.

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And you know when you go up to a colony,

if you could pick up a cat, that cat

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probably, lived at a house not, hasn't

been a colony cat its whole life.

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Dixie: you do the bottle babies too?

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Rebecca: Yes.

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So that's what we're focused on.

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So TNR and bottle babies is the focus.

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Until we've got more fosters,

like you said, or have the

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sanctuary in place, we just aren't

able to be, intake for animals.

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So we only take bottle

babies and then TNR.

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So I've got three right now

on me literally on my body.

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Dixie: Yeah, I could hear them.

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Rebecca: Oh, can

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you?

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They're not on a bottle anymore,

but they were when they got here.

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Dixie: Are they in the swim in cat

food phase, or are they past that?

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Rebecca: Yeah, they're about there.

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They're getting better without

all their paws needing to be

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in the food at the same time.

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That's what you meant, right?

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Dixie: That's absolutely it.

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Yeah.

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They get so messy- Yeah … when

they're learning to eat, and

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everybody thinks kittens- Oh my

gosh … are like wonderful, and

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I'm like, "Kittens are so messy.

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You have no idea how messy

little bottle kittens are."

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Rebecca: Yeah.

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It is so funny, I'm like,

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what are you doing?"

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But nope, all the paws are

gonna go right in there.

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And then also like the

whole face in the food.

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Like not just the mouth, but

just the whole entire thing.

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It's like watching when a human

child starts feeding itself and

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you're like, spaghetti's on the

forehead for a good reason I'm sure.

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But totally the same thing.

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Dixie: I imagine you have a big

problem with the people that kind

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of catnap the baby kittens too.

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Rebecca: Yes.

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So they think they're helping, bless them.

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They think that they're

doing the right thing.

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They don't realize that

the mom is coming back.

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And there's a partner organization

that is a little bit newer than

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us, but has been around the folks

have been around the town longer.

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And we've been partnering in our efforts

just 'cause, the more the merrier.

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And and they're Southwest Georgia

Fix-Fixers and, We've been trading

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off, who's taking in bottle babies and,

who's full up kind of thing so far.

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And when we are able to, between

the two of us, talk people down

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from removing the kittens, it's

"Oh my gosh, thank you so much."

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And then we try to make sure that once the

kittens are weaned, that we will be the

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ones that get those kittens because we've

got the pipeline to PetSmart for adoption

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or other places to get the kittens out

and adopted through vetted partners.

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And that's the big goal.

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But people get mad when they

find out their cat had kittens.

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That continues to surprise me.

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And they take the kittens away 'cause I

don't know what they think that's gonna

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do other than put the kittens at risk.

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But they are like, "Oh, my cat

shouldn't have gotten pregnant.

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Take these kittens from me."

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And it's "Oh gosh,

that's not how it works."

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But and then those poor mama cats, what

they go through, I can't even imagine.

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But there's also sometimes good stories.

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So I have been contacted

before had a mama cat…

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a woman had a mama cat whose kittens

didn't make it, and she was fully

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lactating, and I had bottle babies

that we put with her, and they

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took to each other right away.

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And so that mama cat automatically

had two babies, and those two babies

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didn't have to be bottle babies.

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So those are fun stories to have too.

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Dixie: Yeah, and that always

makes it so much easier too.

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Rebecca: Oh my gosh, yeah.

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Dixie: Do you have an incubator

for them or do you just do like the

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heating pad or the heating disc?

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Rebecca: I do a heating

pad in a baby playpen.

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Trying to think of the name of it.

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So they have their heating

section and non-heating section.

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When they're little, eyes

closed, still little, they're

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obviously just on the heating pad.

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They don't move much, but plenty

of space in case they need to.

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Dixie: Yeah, I just got some incubators

from a grant that we received.

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Oh.

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And I will say the incubators I

got They were RCOM Brooder B90Ns

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I think.

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But absolute game changer, 'cause for

years I did either the heating disc or

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the heating pad And you know how sometimes

the kittens will get fussy, and it just

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seems you- can't do anything to get

them to be quiet, and they'll just, you

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could feed them, you can make sure that

they have their heat, but they just, for

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some reason - Yeah … get very fussy.

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I found with the incubator, you

feed them, you make them go to the

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bathroom, you put them in there, and

they're quiet until the next feeding.

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Rebecca: Really?

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Dixie: Yeah it is like

a total game changer.

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I never expected that aspect of it.

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I expected it more to be for the

consistent heat, and then if- … I needed

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to hook up like a nebulizer or something

like that to it, then it's contained.

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Which you could use for the kittens with

a respiratory or something like that.

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But- Yeah … I got it more for

the constant heat so that I didn't

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have to worry about getting up and

checking the heating pad or, heating

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up the heating disk or, worrying

about it being too hot for them.

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And- Yeah … I never

expected that aspect of it.

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So I think I'm on my third litter that

has been in the incubator and, like I

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said total game changer because they

get in there and even when they start

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getting old enough, on that like kind

of two-week stage where they start

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playing with each other a little

bit, you'll just watch them- Yeah

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and they rolling around in there,

and they're entertaining themselves.

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They go to sleep, and- Aw … they're

just so comfortable in it.

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Absolute game changer

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Rebecca: I will have to look into

that because I would do anything to

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make it more comfortable for them.

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I thought we'd hit the jackpot with

this setup now with the the playpen,

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'cause it just gives them so much space

and is a little bit off the floor,

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so I'm not like getting into a pet

pen that's all the way on the floor.

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And I was like, "Oh, I'm winning now."

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But if there's something even better,

then we definitely would wanna get it.

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Although, one of the things that we're

finding is even to get fosters for the

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bottle babies, having to get the whole kit

of items that they need is so expensive.

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And so that's a whole nother area of,

that we're noting of at what age do we do

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fosters later in the bottle feeding era.

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Maybe at four weeks we put them with

fosters and stick with my friend

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and I are the ones that just take

the itty bitty ones so that we don't

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have to have all of the special

equipment at all foster locations.

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What's your solution for that?

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Dixie: We have a very difficult

- time finding bottle feeders here.

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Rebecca: Okay.

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Dixie: We have the people that

either don't have time, with

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their jobs, and I understand that.

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But then you also have the people that

are just, very scared of bottle feeding.

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I have tried to do bottle feeding classes.

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… And so we have had several of those to

kinda get people on board and at least

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introduce people to bottle feeding.

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Even if they don't do it,

at least they know about it.

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Rebecca: Yeah.

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Dixie: And, we've had quite a

few people sign up for those,

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so , that's a good thing.

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I was thinking of putting together

some kinda kit for the people who

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did wanna bottle feed, but as far as

fosters, I'll kinda leave it up to them.

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I will do it to where if they're

comfortable taking the litter,

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from bottle feeding to up ready for

adoption, then they'll do it that way.

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There are some people that

prefer to just do bottle babies.

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So for those people, once the

kittens are weaned, then what we'll

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do is put them with another foster.

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Rebecca: Okay.

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Dixie: So it really kinda just depends

on the foster that you're dealing with.

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Rebecca: Yeah.

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Dixie: But I find fosters are in short

supply, period, and then when you're

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talking about trying to find a bottle

foster, that's even harder to find.

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Rebecca: Yeah.

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I agree with you that there definitely

aren't as many fosters as we would like.

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Yeah, it's everything.

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Looking for donations and the people

whose eyes glaze over when I say it's

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for cats versus, what about all the

children that need something or the

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dogs or the everything that people put

in front, put ahead of cats in creating

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that compelling story to get people

to, to put money in place where, you

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know, for the benefit of cats has been a

struggle as well as the foster situation.

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But the people who love cats really

love cats, and those are the people that

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we're finding for fostering, which is,

always amazing because then you know

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that somebody's heart is really in it.

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Dixie: Yeah, absolutely.

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Thank you- … so much for taking the

time to speak with me about your endeavor,

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and I wish you much success on it too.

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Yeah.

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Rebecca: Thank you.

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It's been great talking with you

and hearing about what you've got

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going on in Louisiana as well.

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And I've been listening to some of

the podcasts that you've already

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had, have posted and it's been super

informative too 'cause, still being

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very new to this every story helps.

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So I appreciate you being out

there and sharing all these great

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stories from around the country.

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Dixie: Yeah, absolutely.

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And when you listen to the episodes,

there's a lot of people too that are

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willing to help if you have any questions.

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Oh, good.

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If you come across any of them,

if you have any kind of questions,

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you can always reach out to me

and I can hook you up with them.

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But usually we'll put the information

in the show notes as well.

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But- Okay … i'm so happy that everybody

is so into sharing the information

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Thanks for listening.

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And I'm glad to hear that the- Yeah

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episodes are helping you out,

'cause that's what it's all about.

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Yeah.

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And that's what my goal was.