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00:00 Introduction and Greetings

00:11 Instagram Live Mishap

00:48 Interpreting Biblical Principles

01:59 Listener Question on Exodus 18:24

02:51 Discussion on Deuteronomy and Moses

06:25 Exodus 19-21 Overview

09:32 The Ten Commandments

11:38 The Importance of Rest and Sabbath

15:23 Case Laws and Justice

19:25 Conclusion and Prayer

Hey everybody, welcome back to another

edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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What's up folks?

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So glad to be back with you.

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Happy Tuesday.

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It's Thursday.

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No, it's not.

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It's Wednesday.

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It's somewhere in the

middle of all those days.

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Happy one of those days.

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Happy all of them.

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Wednesday.

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Hey, I I have an issue.

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And that is, I did not realize that

there were filters being applied to the

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Instagram live the other day until I got

home and my son asked me why I had green

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lines emanating from my head at one point.

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Because the wisdom, the glory cloud, bro,

you were just talking about it on Sunday.

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That's true.

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The glory of God was

emanating from your person.

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I think I made it clear that that

was false teaching though on Sunday.

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I think the reason, the reason why

the devil uses those tools is because

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there's a real manifestation of them.

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And that's what we were seeing.

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It wasn't a fil, you

assume it was a filter.

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I think it's pretty bold on your

son's part to assume it was a filter.

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Okay.

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This podcast is now ready to H for

heretical . So it is true though the

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devil does utilize true things in

order to develop the false things.

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So we call those counterfeits.

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So yes, there are counterfeits.

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It actually does bring up a really

good principle when it comes to

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interpreting the true from the false

and is that the devil does have

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his hand in things that look to be.

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Real.

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And in this case, I'm

sorry, folks, you're right.

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It was not real.

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There was not real.

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What were they lasers coming from?

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I don't know.

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I didn't see it.

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In fact, that's something else.

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Somebody said they were like, Hey, how

do I find the Instagram live video?

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It was like, well, it wasn't there.

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Yeah, yeah, we didn't post it.

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We just we're tooling around

see what we could do with it and

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ended up not keeping it Because I

didn't feel like it was worth it.

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Yeah, I think your use

of we there is strong.

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We decided to do it together

Yeah, the royal we we did

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not decide to do it together.

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That was without my consent all of a

sudden It was like hey, we're instagram

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living and I did not know the ones and

ones of people really really wanted

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to see it Are you doing it again?

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Is that what you're doing

with your phone right now?

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No, i'm putting on my do not

disturb Deep mode , deep mode, deep.

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We're going deep.

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Yeah, I mean, if we did have an age

for heresy, I think somebody that

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might come in and knock on our door

would be perhaps the Reverend Dr.

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John MacArthur might come

in and take issue with us.

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He might, because we're about

to give an unpopular take on a

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text that he said something that.

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You disagree with I disagree.

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I'm not afraid to disagree.

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All right So here's the question that came

in from one of our faithful listeners.

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She listens to every single podcast

right Heidi every single one Anyway,

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she writes on this Exodus 1824.

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So Moses listened to the voice of his

father in law and did all that he had

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said That's what Exodus 1824 says she

responds with My John MacArthur commentary

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says Moses apparently did not immediately

implement Jethro's solution, but waited

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until the law had been given to do

so, and he cites Deuteronomy 1, 9 15.

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So she asks, is, Is this true essentially

i'm trying to summarize the rest of

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her her question here But she says in

in deuteronomy moses were telling of

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what he had said at that time So she

identifies something that we noticed And

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she asked did he implement the leaders

being appointed at a later time than

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exodus 1824 Clearly in deuteronomy.

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He is speaking of a different time.

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Was it not the exodus time?

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Thanks.

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Yeah, heidi I think you're

you're spot on is right there.

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It is the exodus time there and

Yeah, I think if you jump back in

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Deuteronomy chapter one to verse

six, just to gain some speed in the

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context, the Lord, our God said to us

in Horeb, that's the mountain of God.

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That is Mount Sinai there.

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You've stayed long enough at this

mountain turn and take your journey

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and go to the hill country of the

Amorites and so forth and so on.

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And then Moses continues

in verse nine at that time.

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I said to you, I'm not

able to bear you by myself.

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So it appears in Deuteronomy chapter

one is though he's reflecting

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back on Exodus 18 when he had his

conversation with Jethro and then

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the elders were put into place there.

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So I'm not exactly sure what Dr.

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MacArthur is noting here, what he's

pointing out and why he makes that

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argument in the commentary that he makes.

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I don't see anything specifically

in this text that would imply

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that Moses delayed in doing what

Jethro had said he should do.

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Now both PR, both you and I both said

just because the text says that Moses did

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everything his father in law said to him

doesn't imply that that's necessarily true

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or that it was done right away, right?

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In fact, we find, and we're going to

find that there are multiple times

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that the Israelites say we will do

all that the Lord commands us to do.

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And if you know anything about the history

of Israel, you know, that that wasn't.

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Necessarily that the

outcome that wasn't true.

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So I don't know.

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But yeah, Heidi, I think your gut instinct

that this in Deuteronomy chapter one

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appears to be Moses reflecting back on

Exodus chapter 18 is a good instinct.

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I think that's what is happening here.

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It appears that he did in fact

implement this right on the heels of

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the encouragement from Jethro to do so.

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I'm going to add one caveat and

it's that maybe MacArthur, Dr.

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MacArthur, Mr.

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Dr.

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MacArthur, like me to call

him Reverend Reverend Dr.

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Mr.

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MacArthur probably is.

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I don't know.

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This seems like a pretty simple

error and it's not above the

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realm of possibility that he made a

mistake and it mistake got in print.

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But this seems really,

really simple to me.

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Too simple.

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So simple that one has to suggest maybe

there's something more that he's thinking

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about that we're just not seeing right

now and it'll become obvious later.

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I don't know.

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I'm willing to give him the benefit of

a doubt and say, I don't, I'm looking

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at his study Bible and that's where he

leaves a comment that Heidi referenced.

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And I'm wondering, okay, maybe

he just wasn't thinking about it

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the right way, or he's thinking

about another text, I'm not sure.

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We're going to give him the benefit

of the doubt and say maybe there's

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something else going on there, but

we're in agreement with you, Heidi.

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We looked at both of those texts,

scrutinized him, and we think this

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is the one and the same thing.

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He's talking about the same occasion.

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The only thing I might Suggest,

and this may be the angle that

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MacArthur is coming from is it

appears as though the Deuteronomy

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one context is they've been at Horeb.

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Now they're ready to move on from Horeb.

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So when he may be taking Moses words

at that time, so literally as to say

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at the time that they were moving out

at the time that they were setting out

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from Mount Sinai to go on their journey,

that that's when Moses obeyed Jethro and

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installed these elders if that's the case

then yes It would have been after the

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giving of the law technically speaking

But it's within the the the earshot

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of the original advice from Jethro.

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We're not dealing with years later We're

not dealing with even months later.

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We're dealing with a few weeks later

at most you know Moses is putting

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this in place What would even be

theologically significant about

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him doing this later as opposed to?

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Right then and there I can't even

understand other than showing the frailty

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of Moses maybe or maybe stubbornness

who knows who knows Yeah, so that's

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where where we would come down on that.

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Hopefully that's Instructive

great question Heidi.

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That is a good question.

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Good reading good studying.

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Yep.

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It's detail oriented By the way,

let that be just a point to you that

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it Commentaries are not Scripture.

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They're fallible.

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They are fallible.

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And there are good commentaries out

there and there are ones that are,

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are reliable the majority of the time.

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But if you find yourself disagreeing

with a commentary, it's okay.

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You're not disagreeing with God's word

and you're not disagreeing with God.

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So we need to make that clear.

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Separation there and know that the men who

write the commentaries are men at best.

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And and sometimes they're

going to make a mistake there.

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Let's jump in to X's chapter 19 through

21, which is our text for today.

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X's 19 is, I think there are times where

I think to myself, man, if I could go

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back and be present for a period of time.

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A particular event in scripture.

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This is one of them that I just

would love to have been at.

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And I think just that the power of

God, that's on display in chapter

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19, as God leads Moses and the

Israelites back again to Mount Horeb

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to Mount Sinai there where he had

appeared to him in the burning bush.

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And God calls Moses up to the mountain

and gives him instructions to prepare

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him and the people for the covenant

instructions that he's going to provide

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in chapter 20, the 10 commandments.

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But then There's the scene where God

speaks in thunder and the mountain

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is trembling and smoking and the

people hear this loud trumpet, but

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nobody's blowing a trumpet and they

are just overcome with a fear of God.

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It's a, it's powerful.

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And yet what it reminds me is.

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Even still, even after seeing this,

witnessing this, they still go on

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and they are disobedient in their

sin comes out and they grumble

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and they they rebel against God.

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So sometimes I think we, we, in our

minds conceive of this notion that man,

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if God would just show up the way that

he showed up back then, well, then it

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would be much easier for me to obey him.

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Or then it would be much

easier for me to fear him.

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And I think we need to be careful

of that because this is a pretty

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Powerful manifestation of God

in the presence of this people.

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And he's just done all of these

things, leading them out of Egypt.

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And yet this is the same people

that's going to rebel against him.

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The same generation that's

going to die in the wilderness

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for their disobedience to him.

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So it's, it's terrifying.

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It's, it's wonderful.

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It's awesome to, to read this and

to think about how amazing would

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that have been to be, be there.

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And yet we can't think, well, if God

would only do that today, then that would

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cure all of the sins and ails of society.

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I think we need to remember this

generation rebelled, just like.

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Rebellion takes place today.

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Yeah.

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And on top of that, one of the things

that I can't help, but remember is that

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Peter says we have something more sure

instead of the transfiguration that he

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saw Peter, James, and John, he says, we

have something better in the word of God.

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We have a more sure word and

testimony, a more reliable.

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Revelation through his word

and we ought to esteem that.

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Christians so often look down at their

bibles because, oh, it's just a bible.

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You know, it's just two leather covers and

some pages in between but If we're really

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thinking about what we have here, we would

be much more like the psalmist in 119.

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Oh how I love your law.

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I love it.

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I crave it.

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I, I, I yearn for that.

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And Peter also says that we ought to yearn

for the pure spiritual milk of the word.

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And Hebrews 1 reminds us that God has

been revealed most fully in Christ.

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Even though we can look at

events like this and say, man,

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that would be really cool.

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And it would be, who wouldn't deny that

it would be so cool to see this, but we

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have to believe what he tells us in that

his word is a better revealer of his

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person and his work more than if we just

saw his works done apart from the word.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We'll talk about that a little bit.

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In fact, this Sunday in our continued

study, the gospel of John regarding the

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the concept of the spirits, ongoing work

of revelation with the disciples, Jesus

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says that he's going to take the things

that you're not able to bear right now.

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And he's going to declare them

to you, things that are mine.

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He's going to declare them to you.

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And so when the writer of Hebrews,

as you just mentioned in Hebrews

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one, one says in these last days,

he's spoken to us by his son.

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That's That's going to include the,

the spirit's work in the ongoing

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revelation that we have as the rest of

the new Testament that, that happens

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post the Ascension after Christ returns

to the right hand of the father.

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So we'll talk a little bit

about that on Sunday as well.

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Just a little teaser for.

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Coming to church on Sunday.

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Like a Costco sample.

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Costco sample.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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X is chapter 20.

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Then this is the most of it.

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At least the first 21

verses, the 10 commandments.

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These are, this is the deck a log which

the 10 words is what that word means,

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but that's often called referenced

as the the 10 commandments here.

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familiar, familiar section.

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God lays out these 10 commandments dealing

with how people should relate to him

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and also how they should relate to one

another, which is why in Matthew 26, when

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Jesus is asked about what the greatest

commandment is, he's able to say, Hey,

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love God and love one another upon these

two commandments, hang all of the law.

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And we see that broken down here in

the giving of the 10 commandments,

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but these are good to rehearse.

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Good to go through,

good to teach your kids.

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These are by and large, except for.

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The Sabbath commandment really still

applicable to us today not for our,

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the, the maintenance of our relationship

with God, but, but really just for

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our, our love for him again, as

Jesus said, the greatest commandment,

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love God and love one another.

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These commandments would, would be ones

that would apply to us in that regard.

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Why not the sabbath the ten commandments?

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I mean ray comfort uses the ten

commandments in his witnessing is

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evangelizing And this one is absent

and it's even absent in some times

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in the ways that we talk about it

We don't tell people today that they

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need to honor the sabbath to keep it.

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Holy There are some christian

sects that do say that though So

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why do we believe that the sabbath

listed among the decalogue is now

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revoked or no longer applicable?

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I think the sabbath is unique in that

it was anticipating something that it

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was going to have a greater reality

The commandment thou shalt not murder

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has no greater reality than that.

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The commandment, love the Lord your God

with all your heart, with all your mind,

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with all your soul, the commandment,

you shall have no other gods before you.

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The first one right out, out of the gate.

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There's no greater reality

that that's pointing to.

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The Sabbath observance though, is

pointing to the rest that ultimately

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is secured for us by Christ.

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And now we are in this intermediate period

where we are waiting for that final rest.

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We are waiting for eternal rest.

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The Sabbath was installed as.

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Something that was meant to image the

need for rest that was ultimately going to

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come from God himself And he has provided

a way for us now in Christ that has been

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secured for us now in Christ And so the

observance of the law itself has been

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Has been replaced has been fulfilled in

the coming of Christ and now we await

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Entering into that final rest in eternity.

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That's a helpful reframing of it.

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Does that mean then that I don't

have to take a day off of work?

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If I don't want to, we do have the

principle of working six resting one

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in scripture, but if I now knowing

what you just said can realize,

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look, I don't, I don't need to take

a break like everybody else does.

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I'd prefer to work the seven days because

I can get a lot more done that way.

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Can you respond to that person?

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Yeah, no, I think rest is still necessary.

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I think it's, we even see it

modeled from Christ when he took

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the disciples to Caesarea Philippi.

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And that's where Peter has his

great confession about who Jesus is.

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They were getting away to rest.

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They were getting away from

the crowds and everything.

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And Jesus would retreat from the crowds

to spend time alone by himself as well.

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So the principle of rest is good.

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In fact, it is an element of

humility where we're worshiping

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God by expressing our dependence.

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God, I need to rest because I'm not you.

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Jesus can say in John the

father is working until now.

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And so I am working which by the way

was, was a implicit statement that, that

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he's making about his identity as God.

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But we can't make that same statement.

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We need to rest.

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We are finite creatures.

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And when we rest, when we vacate,

when we take time away and time off,

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we are worshiping God by admitting

God, we need to be recharged.

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And so that's something that's good

for us to do to say, I don't need rest.

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It's actually a veiled statement of

pride that says, I don't need rest.

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I don't need to be recharged.

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I can go a hundred miles an

hour without ever needing to be

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replugged in and plugged back in.

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And I think God wants us to stop and

sleep is a good example of that too.

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When we sleep overnight, that's

a, that's a position of vulnerable

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surrender before the Lord.

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We're saying, Lord, we need you to

sustain our bodies because we're shutting

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down for the next six hours, seven

hours, however long we have to sleep

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overnight and we're going to trust you

to sustain our bodies while we sleep.

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And we need this because we are not those

who can never slumber and never sleep.

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We need our sleep for our bodies to work.

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So would you say that there

is a moral obligation to rest?

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I would say yes, I think it's

part of our worship of God.

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I think it's an integral

part of our worship of God.

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So if someone were to say what I

just said and, and mean that I'm not

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taking rest, you would say that's sin.

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You need to submit to your creatureliness

and take time to rest in order

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to do the things like worship.

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Some people will utilize a Sabbath and

say, well, In a similar fashion, although

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it's not the same, Christians should

take a day a week to honor the Lord, to

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worship him, go to church, fellowship

with the saints, do whatever else you

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do, because it's a moral necessity.

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It's not a moral command in the

same way that the Sabbath was,

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but still a moral necessity.

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Would you phrase it like that?

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Yeah, I think I would, because part of.

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If we go back to where we've just been,

even with the the provision of mana,

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God instituted the law to say, Hey, on

the seventh day, don't go out and gather

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in part to test their trust of, of him.

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Will they trust him to provide?

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I think sometimes those that

would say, I don't need to

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work or I don't need to rest.

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I can work all the way through there.

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They're trusting in their own

labors, their own efforts.

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It's saying, man, if I don't do this,

then I'm not going to have enough food

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to put money to put food on the table.

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There are going to be different seasons

where I think people need to go through

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times where man, I got to pick up a

second job or I have to do, I have to

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work overtime to, to make ends meet.

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And that's, or a firefighter

in LA perhaps, right?

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A firefighter.

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I get that.

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Or an ER doc or something like that.

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Yeah, I get that.

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But by and large, I think.

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We need to be careful that we are trusting

the Lord enough to say, God, I'm, I'm

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going to rest because you are the creator

and I'm the creature and I need rest.

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It's a good thing for me to rest.

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And so I'm going to do this and I'm

going to trust you to recharge me

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during this time and to make me even

more effective when I go back to work.

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Yeah.

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It really slaps in the face of the

hustle culture, which says no days off,

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you know, one of those things where

the grind set put on the grind set is

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instead of a, you know, something else.

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And I think about Chick fil A, they only

open six days a week and yet they're the

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most popular and most productive chicken

franchise across the United States.

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They take one whole day off.

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They beat KFC, they beat the

other guys, they beat everybody.

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And yet they take one whole day off,

which everyone else would say, look,

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you need to make money on that day.

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But they prove something that

I think God proves with us.

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And it's that.

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When we rest, we actually are far

more productive and far more valuable

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because of that, that willingness to

trust God to say, I'm going to work

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with my, my humanity and take the

breaks that God has designed before.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Good points.

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Well, in the rest of chapter 20,

then verses 22 through 26, God

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gives Moses some instructions on

how to construct various altars.

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And now he's moving into this period

in Exodus where he's going to begin

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to help the Israelites understand

how to exist as a new nation.

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So Exodus 21 launches this really.

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As exodus 21, he gets into how the

nation should relate to one another

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laws about slaves and person on person

violence, because the reality is they're

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setting out now is a brand new people.

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Remember, when they went to

Egypt, they were not yet a nation.

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They were.

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They were a family.

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They were the family of Jacob and

they're down in Egypt there and then

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they grow up as it were in Egypt

under Egyptian law, Egyptian rule,

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Egyptian customs, how people should

relate to one another as Egyptians.

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God has now freed them and he's

making them their own people.

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And in part of the giving of the law,

it was necessary and important for them

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to understand in God's economy as a new

nation under God, how should they operate?

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How should they interact with each other?

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So we read some of these laws and

think to ourselves, man, this seems.

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pedantic, or this seems

overly specific, or this seems

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really like, why is this here?

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The reason it's here is because

again, this is written to a historical

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people at a historical time and they

needed to know what their national

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identity was from a legal perspective.

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And that was to be related to how God

wanted them to interact with one another.

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And so we read these things and we

can appreciate what God is doing in

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the formation of a brand new nation.

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One of the things I love about this

section is that it gives us case law.

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There are specific laws that God

puts on the books, as it were, and

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that's where we have the Decalogue,

the Big Ten, sometimes we call them.

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But here, and in other chapters,

we're going to get case law from God.

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If this happens, then this happens.

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If this were to happen, then

here's how you would respond.

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And what you have here is the brilliance

of God saying, Let me give you a

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way to think about this, and then

you can derive principles from this,

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and now you have case law to help

apply to a multitude of other laws.

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God could have done this a

number of different ways.

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And in fact, a lot of our nation's

laws are built on some of the mosaic

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laws that we see here, how God

interacts with his people and what he

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demonstrates as just responses to these

particular types of offenses and sins.

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So this is incredibly helpful.

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If you read this and you find yourself

saying, well, I don't have any slaves.

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I haven't done any of these things lately.

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There's still so much here.

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And in fact, I wish we could spend more

time on chapter 21, because there's

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so many good principles that you could

draw from to say, okay, this is how

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justice is applied in this circumstance.

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And it's really, really helpful for today.

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Yeah.

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In fact, one of the things that is of

note is just how many times capital

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punishment is referenced here that

in, in our situation, I mean, we

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just had a, an outgoing president

pardoned so many people on federal

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death row and, and commute their death

sentences there as though, you know,

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the death sentence is something unjust.

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And I think we need to treat it seriously.

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And, and especially when this is not God

pronouncing guilt, but a court of human

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beings, pronouncing guilt and pronouncing

a judgment of condemnation to death.

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And yet we also need to

understand that it is a biblical.

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Principle here that, that the capital

punishment is something that God

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instituted even here in the old Testament

as something that he thought was just

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even to the point where if verse 22

of chapter 21, as, as those that are

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huge proponents of life and life as

being present within the womb as a full

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person, you'll notice in verse 22, if

a pregnant woman was hurt in such a way

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that her, her baby died before being born.

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Verse 23, if there's harm, then

you shall pay life for life.

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And so there's even a view of

capital punishment as it relates

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to God's view of life, even in

the womb before that life is born.

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That's a great point to bring out too.

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This is god defining personhood before

they come out of the womb, which for

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us then is pretty definitive We have so

many more texts that help us reaffirm

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that but this is another great example

of how case law Demonstrates to us that

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god thinks of the person in the womb as

a person A full person to the point where

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an adult would have to die if he caused

that baby to die That tells you it's

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life for life tooth for tooth laws about

restitution, which notice here It's not

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hey take out that person's family too.

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It's life for life.

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So it's it's equitable You It's fair.

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It's God's justice on display.

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Okay, I have one more question asking

maybe we can put it to tomorrow's

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podcast because I know we're getting

down on time here But I want you to

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ask answer the question how does the

mosaic law fit within the abrahamic

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law and i'd like for you to spend some

time on that So maybe you guys can

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think about this as we read about moses

Being receiving the law and God now

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covenanting with Israel through Moses.

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How do we understand the Mosaic

law as it relates to the Abrahamic?

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We'll talk about that more tomorrow.

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Sounds good.

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Sounds good.

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Let me pray.

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And then we'll be done with this episode.

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God, thanks for this this passage, this

text, your law, help us to understand it.

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And to understand how it relates

to us today, as we sit here

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on the backside of the cross.

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It's so easy for us to wrongly think

that the law doesn't have any bearing

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on us as Christians because, you

know, after all, Jesus came and died

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on the cross and we're set free.

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But yet there are things that

we can learn in principles

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that still relate to us today.

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So give us wisdom and discernment to be

able to know how to separate those things

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out and to apply this in an effective way.

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And so we thank you for this time.

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Thank you for this word.

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And we pray that we'd have a

great rest of our day, wherever

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we may be, whatever we may be.

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doing.

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May we be good representatives

of you in Christ's name.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Hey, keep her in your Bibles and

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edition of the daily Bible podcast.

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