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Shadow Treasurer Ted O'Brien and industry chief Andrew McKellar's reform wish list
Episode 462 • 20th August 2025 • Politics with Michelle Grattan • The Conversation
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Both men say the government has a 'spending problem' and are urging the federal government to think beyond raising taxes – especially for business.

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