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Episode 22 • 5th December 2024 • Devil's Trap: A Supernatural Podcast • Don't Be A Dick Productions
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The latest episode of the Devil's Trap podcast delves into the intense dynamics of Season 9, Episode 22, Stairway to Heaven. Dean and ODT are getting psycho, and Liz talks about the influence of the character Constantine on Castiel and who stole whose look.

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Diana:

On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, Bitch stole my look and what's in Castiel's Heaven.

Liz:

Let's do this.

Diana:

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trot podcast.

Diana:

I'm Diana.

Liz:

I'm Liz.

Diana:

And we're gonna talk about season nine, episode 22, Stairway to Heaven.

Diana:

Hate that song.

Diana:

Yeah, I mean, like, other than, like, super guitar nerds, does anybody like that song?

Liz:

Yeah, you know, my hatred of super long guitar solos.

Liz:

Anyways, I do know.

Diana:

I do know about this.

Diana:

We talked about it recently.

Liz:

So what have you been up to?

Diana:

Well, we just got past the start.

Diana:

Really, really kick off the holiday season, and I shockingly saw some live music, but then also started my.

Diana:

My holiday tradition of watching a fuck ton of holiday shows and baking.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

So the holiday shows are really starting to reach it.

Liz:

And let's see what we're rebuilding cyber.

Liz:

So some of the things that have come out this.

Liz:

All right.

Liz:

And so there's a married gentleman, which is Chad Michael Murray's excuse to take his shirt off for.

Liz:

For a couple of hours.

Liz:

And I feel really bad for the diet and the exercise work that these poor men, married gentlemen, were being forced to endure.

Diana:

Yeah, it's terrible.

Diana:

I'm sure.

Liz:

No, I bet it's really hard.

Liz:

Like, I'm sure they're getting, like, eating disorders and stuff.

Liz:

Like, getting, like, having those kind of abs is hard.

Diana:

It is.

Diana:

No, for real.

Diana:

And they.

Diana:

But.

Diana:

And.

Diana:

And their dancing is very well done, I would say.

Diana:

I think somebody said to me.

Diana:

I was talking about this, and someone said they needed to work on character development a little, but did they?

Diana:

It was just.

Diana:

They were kidding.

Diana:

It was hilarious.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

So that one I didn't.

Diana:

I watched in two.

Diana:

It took me to two settings to get through that one.

Diana:

I won't lie.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

So the other one, though, that I think is.

Diana:

Yes.

Liz:

The worst of the things that.

Liz:

It's just so fucked up is Hot Frosty.

Liz:

So good.

Liz:

I loved it.

Liz:

So I'm just spoiling the whole movie for everybody.

Liz:

So what happens in Hot.

Liz:

What happens in Hot Frosty is a.

Liz:

A snowman who is sculpted comes to life.

Diana:

Right?

Liz:

So this woman ends up meeting a naked man out in the snow, and he says he don't know who he is.

Liz:

So she says, you can come stay at my house.

Liz:

So she takes this naked stranger who.

Diana:

She don't know kind of.

Diana:

I mean, he.

Diana:

In the hospital.

Diana:

I mean, it's a thing.

Liz:

She went to the hospital for like, an hour, and then she takes him to her house and just lets.

Liz:

Lets this strange man live in her.

Diana:

House and repair it.

Liz:

And then he like fakes a death and he's just like, woohoo, I'm alive now.

Liz:

How do I get his Social Security number?

Liz:

Also, I live with you forever.

Liz:

So this man just conned his way into our fucking house and getting a brand new identity.

Diana:

Oh, you made it the most sad thing ever.

Liz:

That's what happened.

Diana:

That's very sad.

Diana:

I was very angry at one movie.

Diana:

Well, Craig Robinson was hilarious, but he always is.

Diana:

And so that.

Diana:

That kept Babe entertained because he likes him.

Diana:

Because I made watch it with me while we decorated the tree.

Diana:

And then I like the cast.

Diana:

I liked.

Diana:

I thought it was a.

Diana:

It's.

Diana:

They.

Diana:

I think they.

Diana:

I appreciate that they knew.

Diana:

I feel like they knew the story was stupid and they just went with it.

Diana:

And I felt.

Diana:

I appreciate that.

Diana:

And it was enjoyable.

Diana:

I got real mad at one point, but that was it.

Liz:

Why did you get really mad?

Diana:

Well, the spoiler is that she's a widow, right?

Diana:

And so.

Diana:

And she's been dealing with processing her grief and like, didn't want to be left behind.

Diana:

And then the whole thing is that Frosty's gonna fucking melt at the end of winter and leave her behind as they're falling in love.

Diana:

I'm like, this is up.

Diana:

That's not fair.

Liz:

How dare you do that to Lacy.

Liz:

Lacy can't have this happen to her.

Diana:

Right, Exactly.

Liz:

Your teeny tiny soul needs to be filled with love.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

That's how I felt.

Diana:

I enjoyed it.

Diana:

I haven't watched the new Low Hand one yet, though.

Diana:

I'm very excited about that.

Diana:

I heard it's good.

Liz:

I heard fine.

Diana:

I need to watch it still.

Diana:

I was waiting for like a time where I would literally watch it from start to finish instead of having to take a break in the middle for other things.

Diana:

So, yeah, it's on my list.

Diana:

And then.

Diana:

And then we get into the regulars for the season.

Diana:

I feel like Netflix has imported a ton more of Hallmark movies than they have before.

Diana:

And I also feel like there's more Hallmark movies than there were last.

Diana:

I feel like I know that they've increased the volume significantly because it's turned into a thing that people enjoy more than they used to.

Diana:

It used to kind of be a joke.

Diana:

And I think people actually they've made.

Liz:

Into a mass industry where they're spinning these things out like their gingerbread houses.

Liz:

Gingerbread houses are more hard to make than these Hallmark movies.

Diana:

Look at you making a little Christmas metaphor.

Liz:

I Know, jolly as in your.

Diana:

In your Christmas sweatshirt.

Liz:

I am.

Liz:

I'm in a Christmas supernatural sweatshirt.

Liz:

And this baby is cold outside.

Liz:

It's got an impala on it.

Liz:

I like it.

Liz:

I actually bought it off of Creation.

Liz:

I was a sucker for the marketing.

Diana:

There you go.

Diana:

Hey, it happens.

Liz:

It does.

Liz:

And now every time I see it, I get the song stuck in my head.

Diana:

Oh, yeah, I can see that.

Diana:

I can see that.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

So that's been going on on holidays.

Liz:

I think the real important news story of the day is that the orcas are back to wearing dead salmons on their heads as hats.

Liz:

And it makes me so fucking happy.

Liz:

Do you not know about it?

Liz:

So this was a trend that the whales had in, like, the 80s.

Liz:

So in the 80s, these whales started, like, this trend of, like, wearing dead salmon on their heads as hats.

Liz:

And these whales just swim around and they wear salmon hats because they want to look festive.

Liz:

And then, like, they did it for a while, and then they stopped doing it.

Liz:

Like, the fad ended.

Liz:

Well, the trend is back, and they think that some of the whales that are wearing it are the same whales that were wearing it, like, in the 80s that have, like, brought the trend back again.

Liz:

Like, I just hope there's, like, one super, like, fashion trendsetter, like, killer whale that's out there, and they're just like, oh, there she goes.

Liz:

And, like, she's got the.

Liz:

The salmon's back, ladies.

Liz:

The salmon's back.

Liz:

We didn't think she could pull it off.

Liz:

It just makes me really happy.

Diana:

So you're saying the orca fashion cycle is just, like, a shade slower than ours?

Diana:

Because 90s is big for us right now, so they're just, like, a touch decade off.

Diana:

Interesting.

Diana:

I don't want to wear a salmon hat, though.

Liz:

You don't want to wear dead salmon on your head.

Diana:

I mean, first of all, I don't like salmon, so you would up to a two.

Liz:

Another fish.

Liz:

Maybe you were like, a flounder.

Diana:

Tuna.

Liz:

Tuna, maybe.

Liz:

Tuna's pretty heavy.

Diana:

Flounder.

Diana:

Flounder would work.

Diana:

I feel like that'd be very happy.

Liz:

Flounder would be flattering.

Liz:

All right, so that's.

Liz:

That's the important news of the world.

Liz:

Oh, the other super important news of the world is that it has been confirmed that Jared Padalecki will be in season five of the Boys and will be somehow sharing a scene on Jensen Ackles.

Liz:

So we will have a reunion on the screen of Ackles and paddle.

Diana:

So interesting.

Diana:

I better get back into that show.

Diana:

I Keep forgetting about it.

Liz:

It's so good.

Liz:

It's so gross.

Diana:

Yes.

Diana:

That's why I think.

Liz:

Perfect holiday show, huh?

Liz:

Perfect holiday show.

Diana:

It does not sound like a holiday show at all.

Diana:

But I might have time over the holidays to start a new show.

Diana:

So maybe.

Diana:

Maybe.

Diana:

And then we're going to the same show in different cities this week.

Diana:

Speaking of other things in music, we're gonna go see.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

Same band, different town, same.

Diana:

Yep.

Liz:

That's exciting.

Diana:

That's fun.

Diana:

All right.

Liz:

All right.

Liz:

So as I keep trying to say, you already talk about this episode.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

All right.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

All right.

Liz:

So this is Stairway to Heaven.

Liz:

And it was Season 9, Episode 22.

Liz:

,:

Liz:

And written by Andrew Dabb.

Liz:

So veterans on the directing side.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

Now recap Is very First Blade and Dean, Heavy Dean's mark, the Angel War.

Diana:

We do get reminded of the angel, the heaven, the portal to heaven that Ezra told them about last of episode about Cass's grace not really being his.

Diana:

And we get alluded to Tessa, the reaper and Metatron.

Liz:

Yep.

Diana:

The.

Diana:

The biggest.

Diana:

I'd say, like, the one that the one off thing that doesn't kind of seem to fit in here is Tessa.

Diana:

Like, when you see, like, everything else, you're like, yeah, obviously, this is all the same that we would expect to be seeing in this episode.

Diana:

Then you're like, wait, what?

Diana:

Where'd she come from?

Liz:

Yeah, you know, Tessa was the name of my first cow.

Diana:

Really?

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

You really weren't supposed to.

Liz:

Then I had to, you know, ship her off to market.

Liz:

And I learned you shouldn't name your cows anyhow.

Liz:

All right, so we open in Dixon, Missouri, in an ice cream parlor where the staff gets to wear amazing hats.

Diana:

Yes, this is Colonel Scoops.

Diana:

And a woman places a very annoyingly specific order, and her son wants this very fancy sundae that a girl across the way is eating.

Diana:

A young girl that happens to have both a Confederate and US Flag in it.

Diana:

It's very weird, Missouri.

Diana:

And he's like, I want that.

Diana:

And so this woman's like.

Diana:

It's like just this little girl's by herself.

Diana:

So this woman's like, kind of a bitch, but also is like, where the fuck are your parents?

Diana:

And why are you just eating this giant ice cream by yourself on a T ended?

Liz:

And this girl's like, so judgmental about it.

Liz:

Like, you, lady, I'm gonna eat my goddamn sundae like a child.

Diana:

Unattended child, though.

Diana:

It's like, I'm like, mostly she's been incompetent.

Diana:

Yeah, this woman was a.

Diana:

And the woman's, like, scolding her.

Diana:

And as this dude enters wearing a mini trench coat without a shirt under.

Liz:

It, so much chest hair.

Diana:

He comes in, and this.

Diana:

The little girl is like, woman, you need to leave.

Diana:

Get out of here.

Diana:

Because this dude has an angel blade.

Diana:

And our little girl's eyes flash blue.

Diana:

And we cut to outside of Colonel Scoops, and we see a flash of light, hear a scream, and all windows blow out.

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

So in the bunker, Dean uses a recording of a fucking guitar solo.

Diana:

What's your theme of the night?

Liz:

Back to the Future style.

Diana:

And wakes up Sam.

Diana:

And it was definitely Sam sleeping with a gun in his hand under his pillow in the bunker.

Liz:

Yep.

Liz:

And his clothes, too.

Liz:

And I'm like, why are you sleeping in your clothes?

Liz:

And then we learned they just got in two hours ago.

Liz:

So I feel like he just collapsed on his bed and, you know, let the boy sleep a little.

Diana:

Dean.

Diana:

Geez.

Diana:

But the gun in hand in the bunker right then just seems a little excessive.

Liz:

Old habits, I guess.

Diana:

Either way, apparently Castiel has called and said that something is going down in Missouri, but he can't talk about it on the phone because he is a weird, quirky guy.

Diana:

So there they need to go.

Diana:

And Dean's insisting on packing his first blade.

Diana:

And Sam's like, maybe not.

Diana:

Because we know that magic that's powerful has a price.

Diana:

So maybe you leave that here.

Diana:

Save it for the big fights or we find the big bosses.

Liz:

It's really ugly and engrosses me out, and I don't want to look at it.

Diana:

Like, even.

Liz:

I just don't like having it in the car.

Liz:

Like, can you just not.

Diana:

And Dean agrees to leave it behind, and he just.

Liz:

But he also just leaves it on the table.

Diana:

Right?

Liz:

And, like, I mean, I get it's an impenetrable bunker, but put your shit away.

Liz:

Right?

Diana:

Right.

Diana:

And so, anyway, so they arrive at this crime scene in Missouri at Colonel Scoops.

Diana:

And the sheriff calls them Agents Spears in Aguilera.

Diana:

And I was tickled because that means that Cass is already there and waiting for them.

Diana:

And he noticed that they like to use aliases that are names of popular musicians.

Diana:

Dean's not amused.

Liz:

I think it's great.

Diana:

Yes.

Diana:

And.

Diana:

But Cass is going to show them these bodies, and Dean's like, what the.

Diana:

Is this, like, a mass smiting?

Diana:

I mean, he obviously didn't say what the fuck?

Diana:

On the TV show.

Diana:

That's my descriptor.

Liz:

Is that A paraphrase.

Liz:

Okay.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

And we find out there are six humans and one angel dead.

Diana:

That's a lot.

Diana:

So we cut to Metatron checking himself out in a jacket.

Liz:

A trench coat.

Liz:

It's not just a jacket.

Liz:

It's a trench coat.

Liz:

Because he's trying to see what he.

Liz:

If he can look like.

Diana:

Acl, I guess.

Diana:

That's terrible.

Diana:

Gadriel enters.

Liz:

He's awful.

Diana:

He is.

Diana:

Gadriel enters and is like, hey, we need to talk.

Diana:

And he's like, we're losing.

Diana:

Castiel has more followers.

Diana:

And Metatron's like, no.

Liz:

Like, they're influencers.

Liz:

Funny.

Diana:

Oh, my God.

Liz:

Cassiel's more followers than you.

Liz:

Metro.

Liz:

Smash that, like, button.

Diana:

So, basically, Metatron is, like, trying to explain to Gadriel.

Diana:

Gadriel.

Diana:

That this is, like, all part of the plan.

Diana:

He knew all this was going to happen, but not.

Diana:

He didn't really understand why the angels are picking Castiel over him.

Diana:

That's so.

Diana:

Like, everything's going to plan, except for the fact that they're choosing Castiel over Metatron.

Diana:

That's.

Liz:

Nobody likes him.

Liz:

And he doesn't understand.

Liz:

He's lovable and he's funny, and he made God laugh twice.

Diana:

But.

Diana:

And.

Diana:

And so, yeah, they're gonna go meet the.

Diana:

Meet with Tyrus, who is a leader of a group of independent angels that night.

Diana:

So that's why he needs a cool coat.

Liz:

It's not the right coat.

Liz:

So.

Liz:

Nope.

Diana:

Shut.

Liz:

All right, so we go from there to Angel Central.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

Castiel, Sam and Dean are there at CA's headquarters, where they meet with Hannah.

Diana:

And she tells CA's that Josiah wasn't at roll call.

Diana:

And apparently he.

Diana:

Apparently, they do roll call every day because the angels like to hear Castiel say their names.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

That's a lot.

Diana:

That's a lot.

Diana:

So they think that he might have been the mole who killed Ezra.

Diana:

And they identify his vessel very quickly as Sean from Omaha, who looks very.

Liz:

Much like a Sean Flynn.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

And all of a sudden.

Diana:

So Sam pulls up a laptop and does his super duper search engine thing, and within minutes, has a picture of the vessel's ID and has tracked his latest credit card charges.

Diana:

Super hacker Sam.

Liz:

Super hacker Sam did that in a minute.

Liz:

That's pretty cool.

Liz:

And then they gloat, and they're just really Ann.

Liz:

And we can tell there's some tension between the boys and these angels.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

But then Benjamin is like, hey, guys, I just got some cell phone video from the ice cream shop.

Diana:

And, yeah.

Diana:

So they watch it, and we see A patron trying to film himself eating some buck and ice cream.

Diana:

And then we've got.

Liz:

For the gram.

Diana:

For the gram, man.

Diana:

I mean, ice cream did look good.

Diana:

Then our hairy chested dude comes in, opens his jacket and has a sigil cut into his chest.

Diana:

And he didn't stab another angel.

Diana:

He stabbed himself.

Diana:

Right.

Diana:

And before that, he says it's for Castiel.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

So everyone wants to know why an angel would blow up a colonel scoops in his name.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

And Castiel's like insisting that he didn't.

Diana:

He doesn't know what this is all about.

Diana:

So they've identified the.

Diana:

The girl as one of Meta's.

Diana:

Metatron's followers named Esther.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

So Dean is telling.

Diana:

Calling out Castiel for basically having a cult.

Diana:

And the last time that Castiel had this much power, he killed both humans and angels.

Diana:

And he lied about it.

Diana:

So they need to figure out the outcome.

Diana:

And Sam is kind of like, hey, let's.

Diana:

We need to go talk about this in private.

Diana:

And I do like his line.

Diana:

He tells Dean to stow the baggage.

Diana:

I'm like, oh, that's a good one.

Diana:

Stow the baggage.

Diana:

Okay.

Liz:

Okay.

Diana:

Thanks, Sam.

Diana:

And they are gonna work the case.

Diana:

They know the name of the angel in the video is Orin.

Diana:

He's a new recruit in community outreach, meaning that he does minor miracles at the local hospital.

Diana:

And that's kind of a neat thing.

Diana:

And so, yeah, apparently this rune carved into his chest is an Enochian thing to focus energy.

Diana:

So Dean is going to go interview people and send Castiel to go find Orin.

Diana:

And they're gonna send Sam with Castiel.

Diana:

Oh, I'm sorry.

Diana:

If I find Josiah.

Diana:

Not Orin.

Diana:

Sorry.

Diana:

Or instead.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

So we're gonna get the salmon Cass road trip.

Diana:

Salmon Cass road trip to Omaha, right?

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

Or that way.

Diana:

Somewhere in Nebraska.

Diana:

They're heading that way.

Diana:

Somewhere cold.

Diana:

Colorado.

Liz:

Yeah, now you're just confusing me.

Liz:

Okay, so Sam is catching Cass up.

Liz:

And Cass is concerned about the effects of the mark on Dean.

Diana:

Which is interesting that he brings it up because obviously Sam is already concerned about this, but they basically agree that he is just more angry.

Diana:

And Sam acknowledges that he does not think that Castiel has sent angels on a suicide mission, but does call out that Castiel's like, followers are a little, like, culty.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

And the cast is just like, I'm not God this time.

Liz:

You know, it's different.

Diana:

Mm.

Diana:

Sure.

Diana:

Sure.

Diana:

So we go to the bowling alley.

Liz:

Take the angels bowling.

Liz:

I love this scene.

Diana:

It made me very happy.

Diana:

So We've got Metatron and Gadriel at the bowling alley looking very uncomfortable, talking to Tyrus, whose bowling shirt says his name is Fred on bowling team the Saints.

Diana:

And he.

Diana:

And.

Diana:

And Tyrus is just going on about how he loves the simple game and the sound of the pins and just the whole thing.

Diana:

He just loves Baldwin.

Diana:

He loves it.

Diana:

I appreciate that for him.

Liz:

Okay.

Liz:

He also hates Metatron's face.

Liz:

And.

Liz:

And the reason, though, like, I just.

Liz:

I just.

Liz:

Whether I really dislike, you know, this about Tyrus, you know, is that he basically says that Metatron is just a nerd trying to be one of the popular kids.

Liz:

And.

Liz:

But.

Diana:

But he does.

Diana:

I like his raving about the authenticity of the bowling alley, too.

Diana:

He's just like, you can't create.

Diana:

You can't manufacture this in heaven.

Diana:

But yes, he does say a weird thing about, like, you want to be one of the cool kids like you, but.

Liz:

And also, you know, why would you want the smell of a bowling alley?

Liz:

I really do not want the smell of the bowling alley.

Liz:

No, thank you.

Diana:

You don't want bowling alley scented candles?

Liz:

No, thank you.

Diana:

And Metatron's about to have Gadreel threaten him, though.

Diana:

But Tyrus calls out.

Diana:

He's like, yeah, you can kill me.

Diana:

And all of my followers are definitely going to go follow Castiel.

Diana:

Which is a good point.

Diana:

So Tyrus has a lot in his corner right now in negotiations.

Diana:

So he says, all right, we can talk if you out bowl me.

Diana:

And Metatron is very cocky, thinking he can do this.

Liz:

They're gonna have a bowl off.

Diana:

Yeah, I know.

Diana:

This is the scene that we didn't get that I want.

Liz:

You want to see the bowl off?

Diana:

Yeah, I do.

Diana:

All right.

Diana:

On the Cass and Sam road trip we've got.

Diana:

They stop and talk to a.

Diana:

An employee at the Gas and Sip in Colorado that I confused earlier about Josiah.

Diana:

And he definitely remembers him, and he was exactly where he was because he gave him fucking directions, which is really convenient.

Liz:

It is.

Liz:

And they're going to pray Montana, which sounds terrifying.

Diana:

So in the meantime, Dean is interviewing angels.

Liz:

Interrogating.

Liz:

Interrogating.

Diana:

And first up is what we call her, Dr.

Diana:

Flagstaff, because her angelic name is 18 syllables long.

Diana:

And she just says raves about what a joy Orin was.

Diana:

And.

Diana:

And Dean makes some, like, I don't know, inappropriate cracks about him having an explosive personality.

Diana:

But she's a little protective and she.

Diana:

Of Oren, and she is not impressed with Dean at all, to the point that she gets him to flip the out by saying, that she hates the kind of person he is.

Diana:

And he's a killer with oceans of blood on his hands.

Diana:

So he flips the table, throws her chair on the ground, and puts a knife to her throat.

Liz:

Yeah, it's a lot.

Diana:

It's way a lot.

Diana:

Don't like, dislike.

Diana:

Thumbs down.

Diana:

Boo.

Diana:

Dean and.

Diana:

But she does finally share two names of Orin's friends.

Diana:

While she's laying there on the ground in terror, Constantine and Tessa, Cass and Sam have made it to Prey Montana.

Diana:

And they.

Diana:

I find Josiah's station wagon, and they're at some, like, abandoned warehouse in the country.

Diana:

And apparently this place is, like, radiating power, but they can't get the door to open.

Diana:

In the meantime, Dean has located Tessa walking into a theater because he followed that she stole an ambulance from the hospital.

Diana:

This is sketchy as.

Diana:

And he sees the sigil on her chest.

Diana:

So she was gonna go blow up the theater full of people.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

Watching Jesus Christ Superstar.

Liz:

And.

Liz:

But also the sigil on the chest thing.

Liz:

Like, that's gotta be really, really hard.

Liz:

Like, are you doing it in a mirror?

Liz:

Like, how do you make sure you don't do it backwards?

Liz:

Right?

Liz:

Like, we just, like, you know, like the mean girl thing where, you know, she tries to put the things on that comes out backwards, you know, like, how do you know is the right way?

Liz:

And then Tessa's a lady, and we have lady parts.

Liz:

And, like, did you have to, like, go around the nipple?

Liz:

Like, there's just, like, so many questions.

Diana:

Is that why hers was up on her shoulder instead of on, like, the center stomach?

Liz:

Well, I think it was bigger than that.

Liz:

Like, I think that was just part of it.

Liz:

You can see.

Liz:

And I think there was a lot more.

Diana:

Orange was, like, centered, like, on his.

Liz:

Or was pretty big.

Diana:

It's true.

Diana:

It was.

Liz:

So I just don't think you could see all the Tessas.

Liz:

It was just underneath her shirt.

Diana:

Weird.

Diana:

Super weird.

Diana:

So Dean's gonna nab her and ask where Constantine is.

Diana:

And I say nab her.

Diana:

I mean, he throws cuffs on her, and it's going to drag her away.

Diana:

So Metatron and Gadriel are at the bowling alley, and they have clearly lost to Tyrus and bowling.

Diana:

But Constantine is there.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

So Metatron can't bowl.

Liz:

And we have Constantine here who was here to do it for Castiel.

Liz:

And we're going to talk about Constantine.

Liz:

Because if you don't know, you know, I think you should.

Liz:

I think most people in this fandom do know, you know, that Cassiel is based off of Constantine.

Liz:

The character.

Liz:

And now we actually have a character named Constantine, though who doesn't look like the Constantine character.

Liz:

So.

Liz:

So I was going to talk about that.

Liz:

, June:

Liz:

And then he ended up in his own comic series, Hellblazer.

Liz:

And this is a description of that character from Wikipedia.

Liz:

And it ain't broke.

Liz:

So Constantine, the titular Hellblazer, is portrayed as a working class warlock, occult detective, exorcist and con man from Liverpool who is stationed in London.

Liz:

Known for his cynicism, deadpan wit, ruthless cunning and constant chain smoking.

Liz:

He is also a passionate humanitarian with a deep desire to make a positive impact.

Liz:

Right, so that's the basic nutshell of the Constantine character as an archetype.

Liz:

But he also has a trademark outfit, and that trademark outfit is a black suit with a trench coat.

Liz:

A look said to be said based off of Sting's appearance in the films Brimstone and Treacle in Quadrophenia.

Liz:

And Eric Kripke did indeed base Castiel's look on Constantine.

Liz:

And this is what he said in a Variety interview.

Liz:

I'm the first to acknowledge that the idea really came from graphic novels.

Liz:

It came from Preacher, it came from Hellblazer, which now has become Constantine, which is why Cassiel wears a trench coat.

Liz:

There's a reason why Cassiel looks exactly like Constantine.

Liz:

It's because I ripped off Constantine, but I had no idea it was going to be a show at the time.

Liz:

oks, also had its own film in:

Liz:

And yes, that was a very good portrayal of it, but also appeared in Arrow, the Legends of Tomorrow, the Flash, and had its own series which did air at the same time as Supernatural, but only had one season.

Liz:

And yeah, and the fandoms did get into a slight war over this because the character constant scene existed first and because nerds.

Liz:

So like in the tweets, like one said, next fashion police stole my look segment should focus on Cassiel and John Constantine.

Liz:

Cas wears it better.

Liz:

And that was from Krista Key Christa Tinky Killer at Chris of Gravy Age.

Liz:

There was another person who said, bet you five bucks all the naive Supernatural fans will be like, Constantine ripped off Cassio's look for pairs of face palms.

Liz:

So that was the thing that was going back and forth.

Liz:

But then there was also a female version of Constantine in the Sandman television series.

Liz:

And that character has also not only been bisexual, but that Same kind of gender flipping as shown in the Sandman version.

Liz:

Right.

Liz:

So kind of just goes a lot of different ways.

Liz:

But when E.

Liz:

hn Constantine was created in:

Liz:

Since John has been around longer, it's John Constantine has to be.

Liz:

Which of course, Misha had to give a reply.

Liz:

So this was Misha's reply.

Liz:

Dearest E.

Liz:

I am writing you because my friends at the NSA sent me a copy of what Matt Ryan told you in which he claims to wear the iconic trench coat, suit, tie, trifecta better than me.

Liz:

I must confess, I do not know Mr.

Liz:

Ryan personally.

Liz:

And while he is obviously a more strapping, more chiseled, better looking young man than yours truly, I think the question of who wears the suit better is moot.

Liz:

To my mind, the entire question is absurd.

Liz:

It's like asking which work of art is better?

Liz:

Picasso's original Seated Woman or an excellent forged reproduction of the same work?

Liz:

No collector would ever entertain this line of inquiry.

Liz:

The first would fetch tens of millions at an auction.

Liz:

The second might only fetch a prison sentence.

Liz:

It's like comparing the dew swept grasses on the bluffs of Scotland to the astroturf and the planter at a mini mall.

Liz:

No sane person would draw a parallel.

Liz:

All of that said, some readers might point out that when Castiel was introduced on Supernatural, the script described his wardrobe as a rumpled suit and trench coat a la Constantine.

Liz:

In other words, Castiel's wardrobe was inspired by, or more accurately, stolen from the comic book version of Constantine.

Liz:

I don't get bogged down in these trivial details though, Misha.

Liz:

And that is Constantine versus Castiel.

Liz:

I just thought we should talk about it since they brought in it like, I was like, okay, so now we have a Constantine who doesn't look like a Constantine and he's blowing himself up.

Diana:

Yeah, it's very odd, but yes, he does.

Diana:

He.

Diana:

Yeah, he's gonna stab himself and we get like a kaboom.

Liz:

But apparently, like, so the other, like the first sigil blowing up destroys, like, Esther down to her.

Liz:

To her Adams.

Liz:

But Metatron and Gadriel are fine just by like Metatron being, like, being hugged by Katrina Drill.

Diana:

Yeah, it's real weird that he can protect him.

Diana:

I'm like, there goes Gadriel at least.

Diana:

And.

Diana:

But I'm like, I'm sure Metatron survives this because of course he does.

Diana:

But, yeah, real weird.

Diana:

So finally, at the warehouse in Pre Montana, Castiel notices that there is a riddle in Enochian on the outside of the building.

Liz:

That's a tough one.

Diana:

Why is six afraid of seven?

Liz:

Because seven is a prime number.

Liz:

Duh.

Diana:

Because seven, eight, nine.

Diana:

So in the door, he says that Dean, or sorry, Sam, says that out loud.

Diana:

And the door pops open and Castiel makes a Lord of the Rings reference.

Liz:

A very specific one.

Liz:

No, I don't know the significance of it.

Liz:

I'm not that much of a nerd.

Liz:

It was just a very specific Lord the Rings reference.

Diana:

It was.

Diana:

Oh, I'm like.

Diana:

I'm not either.

Diana:

I'm sorry.

Liz:

Walking.

Liz:

It was so much walking.

Diana:

So much walking.

Diana:

So as they're walking into this place, Dean is calling Sam and telling.

Diana:

He's like, hey, by the way, I've got Tessa.

Diana:

And she's yelling in the background that Ian's a psycho.

Diana:

And she's not.

Liz:

She's not wrong.

Diana:

And we've got.

Diana:

Inside the angel headquarters, Cass's angel headquarters, Dr.

Diana:

Flagstaff is telling everybody that.

Diana:

That she knows that Dean is their commander's friend, but he put a knife to my throat and he's a psycho.

Diana:

So everybody's saying that Dean's a psycho.

Diana:

Now, everybody agrees, except for Dean, that Dean's a psycho.

Diana:

And they see Dean come in with Tessa handcuffed.

Diana:

And he shows Hannah, by the way, look there' she's got.

Diana:

Tessa's got the fucking sigil.

Diana:

She's gonna blow herself up.

Diana:

And Tessa says, there is no God, only Castiel.

Diana:

We.

Liz:

Yeah, the point.

Liz:

Dean's just like, you're done.

Liz:

And takes her away.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

And apparently he has maimed her to undo the sigil by, like, crossing it out.

Liz:

I mean, it's not.

Liz:

It's not a bad idea.

Diana:

It's not.

Diana:

But it still sounds gross.

Diana:

And then he is taking her in, locks her in a cell while he discusses with Hannah and Flagstaff that he needs to go question Tessa.

Diana:

And they're like, no, you're not going to torture or punish her.

Diana:

That is not your job.

Diana:

That only person that can do that is Cass.

Diana:

Sorry.

Diana:

And Hannah actually gives a very clear explanation, right or wrong, about how all of those angels who were not on the same side all the time, but are all against Metatron, have united around Castiel.

Diana:

And it is important to maintain that trust and balance by Castiel continuing to hold that leadership role.

Diana:

And Dean does not have that respect from them.

Liz:

But it's also just, why are these angels so different than the other angels?

Liz:

The other angels that all like to don't give a shit about torturing people, right?

Liz:

So these are like, very high and mighty, like angels compared to, like.

Diana:

Well, they're high and mighty about humans.

Diana:

Yes, they are, but it's just an intro.

Diana:

I thought her case about the.

Diana:

About why it's important that they maintain their process.

Diana:

I thought that was really in.

Diana:

Well, it was.

Liz:

Well said.

Liz:

Hannah gives a good speechi she was good.

Diana:

So.

Diana:

But Dean's like, fine, I go in there and talk to her.

Diana:

She does, but.

Diana:

And so he hands over his angel blade to go talk to Tessa.

Diana:

Back in the warehouse, Castiel's like, hey, I think we need to go back if.

Diana:

If the Tessa thing is going on, but let's just take one more minute and look around.

Diana:

And as they're walking, Sam's notices some writing on the wall.

Diana:

And it says, only the.

Diana:

Only the penitent man can.

Diana:

Shall.

Diana:

I can't say it even.

Liz:

Good Lord.

Liz:

Only the dependent man shall pass.

Liz:

Only the penitent man shall pass.

Diana:

Yes.

Diana:

Which is.

Diana:

And then blades pop out of the wall and almost cut Castiel's head off.

Liz:

But didn't because he now has nose pop culture.

Liz:

And he knows that that was a reference to Neil.

Diana:

It was from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

Diana:

It's a good one.

Liz:

Who knows that reference?

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

Oh, I don't mind doing it Jones stuff.

Diana:

So we got Lord.

Diana:

So so far we have a Lord of the Rings reference in this scene in the warehouse.

Diana:

We got Lord of the Rings, we've got Indiana Jones.

Diana:

So now back in the headquarters, Dean asks Tessa who she works for.

Diana:

And she just says, Castiel.

Diana:

And Hannah's in there too, because she's going to supervise some of this.

Diana:

And Tessa's just like, no.

Diana:

I mean, you just have to understand that sacrifices have to be made and sometimes there's collateral damage.

Diana:

That's all.

Diana:

That's all there is to it.

Diana:

Sometimes humans die.

Diana:

Castiel came to me and.

Diana:

Because I'm strong and you're weak.

Diana:

And Hannah gets pissed and lunges at her for that one.

Diana:

And so Dean pushes Hannah to the hall so she can settle the fuck down.

Diana:

Inside this warehouse, Castiel sees a door with light coming from behind it.

Diana:

And he is convinced that it is the door to heaven because it is calling him.

Diana:

They approach it and he opens the door and Cheek to Cheek by Fred Astaire is playing.

Diana:

It is filled with balloons.

Diana:

There's food set up for a party on tables.

Diana:

It is a very.

Diana:

A heaven angely theme, but red.

Diana:

It's Very odd.

Diana:

They are dolphins as well.

Diana:

There's dolphins in a disco ball in addition to all these angel decors.

Diana:

And Sam notices a little note card on the table.

Diana:

And this is where I'm like, oh, God.

Diana:

Like, something terrible is about to happen.

Diana:

Because that's what I see to happen here.

Diana:

I'm like.

Diana:

And it says, welcome to your own personal heaven, Castiel.

Diana:

Good luck finding the real one.

Liz:

Okay.

Liz:

So at Justin Bello, Italy,:

Liz:

And they're like.

Liz:

They thought it'd be really funny, but then they're like, well, we don't want to give the audience against the wrong idea of what's going on, but, you know the idea that Metatron was messing with Cassiel and.

Liz:

But they didn't want to make the episode seem like it was heading towards anything, and so they just changed it to make it like a really kitschy, goofy kind of thing.

Liz:

But in the script, the original screen description was a room papered with pictures of Dean.

Liz:

Some real.

Liz:

Some with his face pasted on.

Liz:

Shirtless bodies.

Diana:

That was in the script.

Liz:

That was in the script.

Diana:

Dam.

Liz:

So that would have been amazing.

Liz:

And Desiel would have been in love forever.

Liz:

But no, instead they went with.

Liz:

They went with the dolphin theme.

Liz:

Whatever.

Diana:

There was an angel doggo.

Liz:

There was.

Diana:

So.

Liz:

Not as good as shirtless tea would have been.

Diana:

Wow.

Diana:

But then all of a sudden, in this heaven room, there's also file cabinets and a dead guy laying next to him.

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

And someone who was burned.

Liz:

He burned a lot.

Diana:

Burned a lot.

Diana:

It was really bad.

Diana:

And they have figured out that he got home alone.

Diana:

We have another movie now because we have a booby trap with a pitcher of holy oil and a flame thrower thing.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

So this is a very much a.

Liz:

A pop culture booby trap.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

And apparently he's not dead because we're gonna get a jump scare, which I hate.

Diana:

So Josiah is not dead.

Diana:

And apparently he is pissed because Meta told him he could go and Castiel is trying to save him.

Diana:

And he said, no, I don't want you to help me.

Diana:

You play being noble in one of us.

Diana:

But I don't see an angel when I look at you.

Liz:

Damn, that was cold, man.

Liz:

Like, please.

Liz:

Like, I don't even want your mercy kill.

Liz:

Oh, yeah.

Diana:

Or healing.

Diana:

I thought he was gonna heal him.

Diana:

Like, damn.

Liz:

No, I think it was gonna kill him.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

So Dean is back in the cell with Tessa to finish his interrogation and we get the.

Diana:

He revisits their history, but he wants to know why she's willing to do this.

Diana:

And she says that she just can't take the screaming.

Diana:

So this ties back to something you and I've talked about and they haven't talked about on the episode.

Diana:

In the series.

Diana:

In a couple of episodes.

Diana:

Now, where are the dead people?

Diana:

All of that.

Diana:

Where are people going?

Diana:

Where are they going?

Diana:

Apparently.

Liz:

Why are there not hauntings everywhere?

Diana:

I don't know.

Diana:

But apparently all the dead people's spirits, souls, whatever, are scared, sad, and in pain.

Diana:

So they're screaming all the time.

Diana:

And Tessa can't do anything about it because every.

Diana:

The gates are.

Diana:

Seven are closed.

Liz:

Yep.

Diana:

Distressing.

Liz:

And that sounds very stressful.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

No.

Diana:

Yeah, it sounds awful.

Diana:

And it's her job.

Diana:

She can't do her job.

Diana:

Everything's suffering.

Diana:

She's suffering.

Diana:

And death just seemed quiet.

Diana:

And she was going to consider suicide, and then when.

Diana:

And then Castile gave her a reason to die.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

That's sad.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

So.

Diana:

But Dean's like, that doesn't sound like him.

Diana:

So.

Diana:

And she's like, what?

Liz:

Would you raise an army, an army of angels, without telling you?

Liz:

Sure sounds like him.

Diana:

Right.

Diana:

And by the way, there's more of us out there.

Diana:

And I'm not gonna tell you.

Diana:

It would ruin it.

Diana:

So Dean pulls the First Blade because of force, of course.

Diana:

He brought that nasty thing with him.

Diana:

He could not help himself.

Diana:

Old donkey.

Liz:

Sometimes, like, Sam can smell it, you know, it has to smell.

Liz:

It's gotta have a smell.

Diana:

It's like stinky, stinky old donkey teeth.

Liz:

Old donkey breath, too.

Liz:

So.

Liz:

And then she's just like.

Liz:

She impales herself on it.

Diana:

She does.

Diana:

She does.

Diana:

She.

Diana:

She pushes forward.

Diana:

And their only lead is like, she's his only lead.

Diana:

And she's just gonna push herself onto this blade.

Liz:

Rut.

Liz:

Ro.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

And then, of course, the angels come in.

Diana:

And now they see Dean standing there with a bloody ass First Blade.

Diana:

So they are pissed.

Liz:

So Hannah Tessa is no more.

Diana:

Tessa's dead.

Diana:

And Dean gets himself handcuffed with tape on his mouth until Cass and Sam arrive.

Diana:

And he is insisting that he didn't mean to kill Tessa.

Diana:

She knifed herself.

Diana:

But Sam's like, yeah, that may be true, but you still have.

Diana:

You weren't supposed to have the goddamn First Blade here anyways.

Diana:

What the.

Diana:

You broke our deal and she's dead.

Diana:

And Hannah, in the midst of this, interrupts and.

Diana:

Because Castiel has a call coming in from Metatron.

Liz:

Yep.

Liz:

So they're gonna go have A Zoom sesh with.

Liz:

With Metatron.

Diana:

And all the angels are gonna be there, which is a terrible idea.

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

Don't have unknown Zoom meetings with an audience.

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

I think you should have probably taken this in your office.

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

Because then all the angels get to be there to see you get called.

Liz:

As much as I dislike him.

Liz:

Good one.

Diana:

That was as.

Diana:

And he's like, by the way, I'm still alive.

Diana:

Your bomber Constantine failed, and Gadreel's wounded, but Tyrus is dead, and all of Tyrus's followers are now gonna follow me.

Diana:

Sorry.

Diana:

Because you murdered Tyrus.

Diana:

That's.

Diana:

Duh.

Diana:

That's what happens.

Diana:

And Castile's like, I didn't send anyone to do that.

Diana:

But Metatron calls him a liar, and so now, in front of Castiel's followers, this is all just he said, she said now.

Diana:

And it's looking bad for Cass, unfortunately.

Diana:

So, yeah, Metatron's like, no, you're a liar, and, you know, you got carried away, and.

Diana:

And that's all there is to it.

Diana:

So what I'm going to do is I'm gonna offer amnesty to any angel that wants to come over and let me be their God.

Diana:

You've got your taste of Earth and free will, but you need to follow someone.

Diana:

So.

Diana:

And instead of sending angels out to die, like Castiel, you can come with me and go to heaven.

Diana:

Because Castiel stole someone's grace, and it's fading, and he's gonna be out of power soon anyways.

Diana:

And that.

Diana:

And I like his.

Diana:

What his ending pitch is.

Diana:

I'm not the best, but I'm the best you got.

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

So.

Liz:

And.

Liz:

But then he also points out the only thing Cas cares about is himself in the Winchesters.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

And so that tells all the angels to make their choice.

Diana:

Cass, of course, says that they had.

Diana:

Metatron's lying, but it's really, like, it's.

Diana:

Metatron did brilliantly play this because the grace thing is true.

Diana:

So when they ask him, like, well, was everything Metatron said a lie?

Diana:

And he's like, well, no, that one part's true, but everything else is a lie.

Liz:

Like, yeah, that never plays well.

Diana:

No, it doesn't.

Diana:

So, anyways, yeah, And Hannah really wants to believe Castiel, but they need proof.

Diana:

And for that proof, they want Castiel to punish Dean because he broke the rules and he killed Tessa.

Diana:

And they don't lose all the angels trust over one man.

Diana:

You need to inflict justice and kill Dean Winchester.

Diana:

Here's your angel blade.

Liz:

Yeah, and then there's a Lot of stalling and a lot of eye contact.

Diana:

A lot of eye contact.

Diana:

A lot of eye contact.

Diana:

And obviously he can't do it.

Diana:

I mean, it showed.

Diana:

And probably.

Diana:

Yeah, maybe sadly, weirdly.

Diana:

I don't know.

Diana:

And then all of them leave, which is weird to me.

Diana:

There's always gonna be one or two stragglers.

Diana:

What the.

Liz:

They all do, like, they all, like, believe Metatron.

Liz:

I mean, and they all went for this.

Liz:

Like, you're like.

Liz:

Or maybe they're just, like, going off like, I'm not choosing Cassiel, but I'm just like, no, I will never take the you're the best I got speech.

Diana:

No, that noise.

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

I was like, that.

Diana:

That weirded me out.

Diana:

I'm like, what?

Diana:

Go back.

Diana:

Go.

Diana:

Go be independent like Tyrus's dudes used to be.

Diana:

I don't know.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

So anyways, well, all these angels are gone.

Liz:

And then we cut back to Metatron's office.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

And he's on the phone all gloaty about how there is no other side now.

Diana:

Welcome aboard.

Diana:

And Gadriel's waiting, and he basically.

Diana:

Metatron shares that Castiel's people have left casts, and now they are joining Metatron side.

Diana:

But Gadriel's pissed.

Diana:

He did not know what the elite team that Metatron was working on was for.

Diana:

And he is the one that recruited them while Metatron brainwashed them.

Diana:

So Gadreel is the one who recruited these angels to think they were serving Castiel, but actually were serving Metatron and to blow themselves to be suicide bombers, basically.

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

That's real dark.

Liz:

It is dark.

Diana:

It's real dark.

Diana:

I don't like it.

Diana:

And, of course, Metatron's got some, like, story about it being, like, a writer's tool and blah, blah, blah, blah.

Liz:

No.

Liz:

And it is.

Liz:

Right.

Liz:

It's, you know, pointing out that this is all a plot.

Liz:

And, you know, it's very similar to just, you know, general things like the Death Star being blown up.

Liz:

You know, things like that.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

But really, you know, the.

Liz:

His point is that Cass's real weakness is his love for humanity.

Diana:

Yep.

Diana:

And now their Metatron's win is inevitable.

Diana:

So.

Diana:

And G wants to know about Josiah.

Diana:

And we find out that Metatron was basically called him a loose end and for, like, didn't get to tell him that they moved the portal.

Diana:

So Josiah died, like, because they just didn't get the last update.

Diana:

So he was supposed to go to heaven for Metatron.

Diana:

Maybe it's just lying again, but that was weird.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

But then Metatron says that he always wins.

Liz:

And he does.

Liz:

Villain fingers.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

So Sam and Dean and Cass are going to go back to the bunker because what else are they gonna do?

Diana:

But it's weird that Castiel's riding with them.

Liz:

Did they just leave Cass's car?

Diana:

I like his car.

Diana:

Where do they leave it?

Diana:

It's a weird choice.

Diana:

I know he's sad.

Diana:

Maybe he didn't want to drive alone, but, like, somebody could have driven that.

Liz:

I guess if he, Like.

Liz:

If he.

Liz:

Like, this depends on how much grace he has.

Liz:

Because if he has enough grace and he can flap back to get his car later, but.

Liz:

And he just wanted to be with them.

Liz:

Like, maybe they just all wanted to ride together.

Diana:

He doesn't seem to be flapping very many places lately.

Diana:

I don't know.

Diana:

It's weird.

Diana:

I just assumed he was riding with them because he's sad because he sits in the back seat by himself.

Diana:

But I'm also, like, couldn't.

Liz:

What was supposed to sit in between them in the front?

Diana:

Well, you know, I don't know.

Diana:

It just looks extra sad.

Host:

Yeah.

Diana:

But I don't know.

Diana:

And then Sam wants to.

Diana:

Back at the bunker, Sam wants to talk to Dean about lying.

Diana:

And Dean calls Sam an infant.

Diana:

Dean is just being a.

Liz:

He's being a psycho.

Diana:

Fucking psycho.

Diana:

Don't like it.

Diana:

And he informs Sam how it's gonna be because he's the only one that can kill Metatron.

Diana:

And he's gonna call the shots.

Diana:

It's not a team.

Diana:

It's dictatorship.

Diana:

And Sam just walks away, which is probably.

Liz:

Probably for the best.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

So Dean asked Cassiel, like, by the way, how's your power right now?

Diana:

And Cass, like, yeah, I've got enough to beat Metatron still.

Diana:

It's fine.

Diana:

And Dean's like, well, by the way, since you wouldn't kill me now, I really know that you wouldn't send those.

Diana:

Those bombers.

Diana:

What the fuck?

Diana:

Really?

Diana:

And who enters suddenly but Gadreel.

Diana:

Gadreel has entered the bunker.

Liz:

Y'all locked the door.

Diana:

It's really weird.

Diana:

Did he know how to.

Diana:

Is there, like, a code?

Diana:

Does he know how to unlock it?

Diana:

Because she was in Sam's head.

Diana:

How the fuck did he get in there?

Liz:

He's just like, lana, I'm here.

Diana:

But he's not there to fight.

Diana:

Because Keith, he now knows that Castiel is right and he can give Metatron to them all.

Diana:

He knows the bombers were Metatron's agents.

Diana:

And that Gadriel, he's like, I know I fucked up before, but give me A chance.

Liz:

We all make mistakes.

Diana:

And honestly, all of the people in this room have made some real fucked up mistakes.

Liz:

Yes.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

No one, no one should be throwing any brimstone over there.

Liz:

But.

Liz:

And, but then Psychodyne is just like steps forward to shake his hand and he's not shaking his hand.

Liz:

He's.

Liz:

He's.

Liz:

It's a psych out.

Liz:

And when Gadriel goes to shake his hand, Dean stabs him with ODT and.

Diana:

Goes like crazy eyes and like Sam and Cassiel are trying to grab Dean as he like rages out attacking Gadriel.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

It's just.

Liz:

This is stressing.

Diana:

Very upsetting.

Diana:

Very upsetting.

Diana:

I did not like the end of this.

Diana:

Very upsetting.

Diana:

Dean is off his rocker.

Liz:

That's how it ends.

Diana:

That's our episode.

Diana:

Huh.

Diana:

So stressful.

Liz:

It was very stressful.

Liz:

So do you have via people to tell us about?

Diana:

I do actually.

Host:

Casting couch.

Host:

It's the casting couch.

Host:

Were they on that show that time with that guy?

Diana:

So we have.

Diana:

Hannah was played by Erica Carroll.

Diana:

sodes of Battlestar Galactica:

Diana:

Dr.

Diana:

Flagstaff was played by Karen De Zilva.

Diana:

She's been in episodes of Eureka and Fringe.

Diana:

She was Sage in Hellraiser.

Diana:

Hellseeker was an ultrasound tech in Juneau and was Lena in Siren, which a reoccurring character on that series.

Diana:

Tyrus was played by Kevin O'Grady.

Diana:

He's in a couple episodes of Supernatural.

Diana:

He's been in episodes of Smallville, Fringe, Arrow and Fargo.

Diana:

et Brigadier in Godzilla, the:

Diana:

He is a reoccurring character in the Garage Sale Mysteries TV movies.

Diana:

And there's a ton of those.

Diana:

And then was Officer Johnson in a recurring character named Officer Johnson in the series Peacemaker.

Diana:

Our Colonel Scoops patron was played by the guy who's doing it for the Graham, played by Cardi Wong.

Diana:

He's been in episodes of Magicians, Lucifer and Supergirl and a whole lot of Hallmark.

Diana:

Speaking of then, our sheriff was Jackie Blackmore, episodes of Painkiller, Jane V, Fringe, Bates Motel, Magicians and C.

Diana:

And then she was Clara in the Christmas movie Noel.

Diana:

And then Colonel Scoop employee was played by RJ Featherstronha.

Diana:

This is actually his first role in his credits in IMDb has gone on to be in episodes of Batwoman.

Diana:

He was Sean in The miniseries Wayward Pines.

Diana:

Reoccurring character in that.

Diana:

That's a recurring character.

Diana:

Agent Church in the Predator and is a reoccurring character named Jack Boot Clifford in Snowpiercer.

Diana:

Recent series.

Diana:

Cool.

Diana:

Yeah.

Diana:

Oh, my goodness.

Liz:

So what do you think?

Diana:

I found this episode of sad.

Diana:

I think that's reasonable.

Diana:

Dean's a psychopath and there's suicide bombers that have been brainwashed.

Diana:

I.

Diana:

I don't.

Diana:

Angel suicide bombers that are brainwashed.

Diana:

I don't feel like this is a.

Diana:

Not that.

Diana:

It's like.

Diana:

Oh, it's been very calm and settled by this episode very often.

Diana:

This one was pretty upsetting.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

There's a lot of stuff going on.

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

And it's up.

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

But.

Diana:

But, yeah, I do appreciate that we're acknowledging that all the souls of dead people are suffering and can't go anywhere right now.

Diana:

That's a good acknowledgement.

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

I don't think Dean's psycho.

Diana:

Psycho like tendencies right now are being particularly helpful.

Liz:

No, I don't think he's helping anybody.

Diana:

But what do you guys.

Diana:

What do you think about this one?

Liz:

Oh, I mean, I like that Tessa was back.

Liz:

Sad that she's dead.

Liz:

Yeah, she was.

Liz:

She was a good female character.

Liz:

Always pissed me off when the good ones get knocked out for no reason.

Liz:

I mean, there is a reason, but.

Liz:

Right.

Liz:

Yeah.

Liz:

And I'm sad that cast lost all his people because of politics.

Diana:

It is a.

Diana:

Strangely.

Diana:

Not strangely.

Diana:

It is.

Diana:

There's a lot of political parallels in this.

Diana:

I thought we thought we were going to get the political parallels in the battle for hell when Crowley was throwing down the.

Diana:

You know, you gotta go get.

Diana:

Follow get.

Diana:

You know, get the votes.

Diana:

Basically telling Abbott on that earlier in the season.

Diana:

But instead of that, it's actually.

Diana:

It actually turned into almost more of a political war on the.

Liz:

On the angel side.

Liz:

Yeah, it very much is that, you know, it's.

Liz:

Who's getting.

Diana:

Who's getting the likes and winning over the independents.

Diana:

And how do they do that?

Diana:

By, you know, by blowing them.

Liz:

You know, blowing people up is not a way to get those people telling you it's not.

Diana:

Don't do that.

Liz:

Who knows?

Liz:

And this will probably get to.

Liz:

You know, this will probably get struck down off of YouTube, like the last one for me saying that.

Liz:

Anyways.

Liz:

Oh, I always made the whole episode without bringing that up.

Liz:

Anyways, on that note.

Diana:

Cheers.

Diana:

Jerk.

Liz:

Cheers.

Diana:

We said it backwards.

Diana:

Wait.

Liz:

No.

Diana:

That'S where we're at tonight.

Diana:

All right.

Diana:

Devil's Trap podcast is a.

Diana:

Don't get it production Meow.

Host:

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Host:

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Host:

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Host:

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Diana:

Going up to the spirit in the sky that's where I'm going to go when I die When I die in the lane.

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