Sometimes, in the world of social justice organizing, it can seem like there are actually two worlds. One is made up of theoreticians and scholars. The other is made up of organizers on the ground. Legal scholar and Dejusticia Executive Director César Rodríguez-Garavito [https://www.dejusticia.org/en/responsible/cesar-rodriguez-garavito-2] and Watson Senior Fellow Peter Evans [https://watson.brown.edu/people/fellows/evans] want us to challenge this distinction. On this episode of Trending Globally, Sarah Baldwin spoke with them about their most recent work -- an anthology titled 'Transnational Advocacy Networks: Reflecting on 20 years of Evolving Theory and Practice' [https://www.dejusticia.org/en/publication/transnational-advocacy-networks/] -- and about how interdisciplinary, global networks are essential for confronting human rights challenges today. You can read a transcript of this episode here: [https://watson.brown.edu/files/watson/imce/news/podcast/trending-globally/transcripts/E72_Peter_Cesar_mixdown.pdf]