Being able to work with someone that will help you to reach your goals, regardless of whether it is a coach or not, means taking on the challenges that are associated with it. One such challenge a typical person is bound to face is facing the truth, especially when it may not be what you wish to hear. Finding the truth in not only the things that we can do personally, professionally, and even with our businesses, in order to create the best versions of ourselves, means being a "rebel" against our own self-interests that may not be serving us, and moving past any obstacles that may stand in our way. Today's guest, Bridgit Norris, shares her radical transformation since the profound age of 12 in order to test this theory of rebellion, and learn how she empowers her clients to perform the same regardless of the situations that they may face.

Guest Bio

Bridgit has proudly worn the label of a rebel throughout her life. She always stood against the mundane, believing that embracing your inner rebel can empower clients to break free from limitations and unleash their full potential. Through her innovative programs, she guides individuals on a transformative journey, helping them challenge the status quo, find their authentic voices, and achieve extraordinary personal and professional growth. Bridgit agrees that it is time to rebel against mediocrity and step into a life of limitless possibilities.

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Intro/Outro By: Michael Dugan, Podcast Host: Voice4Chefs

Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode

number 108 of Speaking from the Heart.

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Today I'm super excited to have our

guest, Bridgit Norris, who is also

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in the coaching world, joining us.

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Bridgit has proudly worn the label

of a rebel throughout her life.

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She always stood against the

mundane, believing that embracing

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your inner rebel can empower clients

to break free from limitations

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and unleash their full potential.

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Through her innovative programs, she

guides individuals on a transformative

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journey, helping them challenge the

status quo, find their authentic

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voices, and achieve extraordinary

personal and professional growth.

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Bridgit agrees that it's time to rebel

against mediocrity and step into a life

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of limitless possibilities, and I have

to say, it's great to have somebody on

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the show that not only aligns with what

I do in my business, all the way in the

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other part of the United States, but it

just exemplifies the importance of the

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mission that we are all serving to not

only challenge the status quo, but to

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remind ourselves that the work that we

also put into this comes from us inside.

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I think that Bridgit's interview really

exemplifies the fact that it's not about

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what we do, but it's about how we rebel

,against some of the things that we've

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always been told about life and what

it's all about, and challenging what

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it means to even be on the threshold

of that change, but making sure that

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we, the people that are responsible

for the work that we supposed to do

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overall, lies inside of ourselves.

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Coaches can only do so much and whether

you feel that you can change your

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mind about this process or not, really

depends on how much you're willing to

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invest in yourself to grow, to lead, and

to inspire in so many different ways.

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But with that, let's go to the episode.

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Alright, we're here with Bridgit Norris.

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Bridgit, thanks for sharing

your heart with us today.

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Bridgit: Thank you so much for having me.

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Joshua: Yes.

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Thank you so much for

spending some time with me.

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I am really impressed by some

of the things that you wrote for

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my audience to listen to as your

background, because I'm thinking, "Hmm.

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You have some really creative adjectives

of wanting to challenge the mundane

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and be a rebel.", so I'm wondering.

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What got you into this framework

of wanting to be helping others to

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challenge their mindsets, because

I'm essentially getting a lot out of

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what you are saying with that sort of

framework in mind, so can you tell us

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a little bit about what got you started

with maybe doing these sort of things?

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Bridgit: Quite honestly, the funny

part about it is, is like, this

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is how I've been my entire life.

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I was that rebellious little girl.

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I moved out when I was 12.

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This will give you a gauge.

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When I was 12 years old and I literally

woke up one day and I said, "You know.

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This is not the life that I want,

and I want to do things that every

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other 12 year old girl is doing.

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I want to play sports, and I want

to go hang out with my friends and I

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can't do that, so I'm moving out.",

and there wasn't any thing in my mind

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that I was going to get a no because

it didn't matter; like just didn't

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matter, so I was very rebellious in

that fashion, so when it came to where

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I am now, and kind of revisiting that,

I had to remember that, because that

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is a part of who I am, and that's a

part of pulling that out of everyone.

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Not every person is rebellious

in that same fashion, but we all

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have a little bit of that in us.

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It's just remembering

it and figuring it out.

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I talk to people all the time, they

say, "I'm a rule follower.", and I'm

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like, "I bet you if we dig, there's some

rules that you've broken, and there's

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some things that you've done to rebel.

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You're just kind of

forgetting it, conveniently."

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Joshua: I mean, I find it interesting

though, because when I was 12 or 13 years

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of age, I've always wanted to say, "Yeah,

mom and dad, I'm tired of your crap!

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I want to move out!", and I think

every kid had it at that age.

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What actually forced you to move out?

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Bridgit: My mom was a single mom,

and we grew up very poor, and in the

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trailer park, and on food stamps, and

on welfare, and it was all those things.

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My mom did the best that she could, but

I was like playing mom, right, so she

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would work at nights and sleep during

the day, so I was the one who had to get

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the brother and sister up for school,

and I was the one who had to do homework

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and all of those things, made me realize

that I can't just be a 12 year old.

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I want to be a 12 year old.

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I want to play sports and I want to have

fun and I want to not be this, and I

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figured the worst thing for me to do,

and this applies to every situation,

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is to know that the situation you're

in is bad for you and still stay in it.

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There was no excuse and everybody's

like, "Oh, but you were 12.",

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and I'm like, "but I didn't" in

my mind, that wasn't a reason.

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That wasn't a reason to hold me back

from leaving something that I knew was

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bad or wasn't going to allow me to grow.

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Joshua: Do you think it allows you to be

able to expand though, by helping your

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siblings, even though you weren't the mom?

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You were playing the mom, but do

you think that made a profound

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influence on who you are?

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Bridgit: Probably.

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I mean, there's always that part

of it that; I have that in me.

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I'm the pushy, very aggressive person

that's going to tell you like it is,

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but I also am very giving, and it comes

from that spot of, "I'm going to mom you

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first, and then probably tell you the

things that you don't want to hear after."

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Joshua: Hey, if you want to tell me

how it is that being a podcast host and

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evaluate me afterwards, I'm be more than

happy to hear that from you, Bridgit.

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Bridgit: And it's scary because

most people don't like that.

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What's the thing that everybody says?

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"I want advice."

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Nobody really wants advice.

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They want to be told what they

want to hear, versus the thing that

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you're going to tell them they're

not actually going to do it anyways.

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That's like the truth of it.

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Joshua: It is, and I always call it in

my business, getting feedback and being

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able to accept that feedback from others

when we often are not comfortable in

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doing that, and I think that is really

important for the lifestyle that we

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live, which I really want to branch into

what you have shared with me, which is

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really breaking free of the conventional

lifestyle, because I think that for many

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of us, we always think that we have to

live a certain way, and that even goes

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into leadership, which for my audience,

they know that you are a coach and you

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help people to break that sort of mindset,

so what do you usually find that is

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helpful for people that you're working

with to break free from that convention?

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Bridgit: I think when, especially in

the coaching world, and working with

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so many people on that level, what

you find is the convention has turned

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into- and it's different as we've

shifted in the years, but convention

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right now online is the online space

is dictating who you have to be.

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How you show up.

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What you say.

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What you look like.

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What you do.

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What you don't do.

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All of that has become so conforming

that it's everybody wants to

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just be like everyone else.

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Everybody wants to make a million

dollars a month, but deep down

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inside, that's not their truth.

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Deep down inside, there are people that

want to say things that maybe go against

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the things that everyone's saying.

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They want to help people, but they don't

care about the money, but yet online,

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they're being told that that's a bunch of

crap, so for me, it was a pushback against

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all of that, like, who are you really,

and what do you really want, and what

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does that mean, because, surprisingly, so

many people, including myself, lost that.

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The online space is kind of- it's been

a great opportunity for everyone, right?

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We get to meet a ton of people.

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We get to coach and change lives,

but it's also hurt a lot of people in

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that aspect, and that part of it, it

happened to me and I'm like, I'm very

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strong, rebellious, do what I want.

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How did it happen to me, and then I

had to take a step back and go, "If it

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happened to somebody like myself, it's

happening to a lot of people.", and a lot

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of people need help getting out of that.

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Joshua: I have some friends myself

that I have known started their own

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coaching and then they had to back out

of it because of circumstances that

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have happened, especially being in

the online forum where there is- let's

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face it, a dime a dozen for the number

of coaches that are out there, but do

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you think there's a chance for it to

change, especially since you do have this

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unique brand yourself, Bridgit, and I

have my own unique brand myself, where

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I really talk about having people have

relationships, confidence, determination

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to keep moving forward in their life.

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I mean, do you think that there's still

a need for a coach, or even having people

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realize that they can change that mindset,

because I don't know about you, but my

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own personal opinion is that if you have

a coach by your side to be able to talk

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through some of these things that might

be too hard to process on your own,

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you might get a different perspective.

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Bridgit: Yes.

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I think that there's

always going to be a need.

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I mean that would be like saying there's

no need for therapy and people of course

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need therapy and then there's that.

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Joshua: Myself included.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Bridgit: But then what happens to

the- this is where coaching came in.

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What's happens to the people that are

like, "I don't need therapy in its

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formal sense, but I do want and desire

to walk through things with people and

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have all of those things, so I think

that that's not going to go away.

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I think the better that the community

gets at not wanting to be like everyone

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else like in owning that part of it, the

better it is because what you need isn't

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going to come from the same thing that a

thousand people online are buying because

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it's flashy and they're everywhere, right?

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They're the guru, but people find that

that's not what they needed to begin with.

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It just looks great on paper, and

then you get in there and you're

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like, "This is not what I needed.

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This is not helpful.", so the more

that we can speak out and say, "You

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actually don't need that, and it might

not be even me what you need, but

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let's help you find what it is", and

there's not enough people saying that.

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It's more about, how can I make the money?

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How can I just bring people to me,

even if they're not a good fit,

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which is a whole other issue, but-

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Joshua: I'm always about having a fit.

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I even say that's a two way street.

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A coach can get rid of a client while

a client can also get rid of a coach.

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I think that always should be part of

any sort of agreement, but even with

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that said, what would you say is your

best advice to someone that is trying

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to forge that new path, given the fact

that we live in these conventional times?

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What would you recommend to someone,

especially even if it isn't coaching, just

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in life in general, whether it's personal

or professional, what would be that

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number one tip that you would give them?

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Bridgit: I bring this

back to every single time.

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If you don't remember who you are or

somehow you feel like you've lost who

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you are, that happens to a lot of people.

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It happens to women who get a divorce.

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It happens to empty nesters.

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You all of a sudden lose who you are.

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I think before you hire anyone,

unless it's something specific that

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they're helping you establish that,

you really need to get back to

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yourself, and figure out what that is.

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What makes you, you, and

everybody's always like, "Oh,

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I don't have anything special.

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I have nothing special to offer.

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It's the same thing as

everybody else is offering."

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It's totally not true at all, and until

you realize that there is never going

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to be a place of you breaking free.

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You're always going to be on

the hamster wheel of trying

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to figure out what that is.

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It's a vicious cycle

that only you can break.

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Joshua: Not to get meta with you,

but what would be what you would

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say to answer that question?

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What makes you different

and unique in that regard?

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Bridgit: For me, it is, and there was

a ton of people that you could say,

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"Oh, well, they tell it like it is,

they say what it is", and there's a

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lot of that, but, I have kind of a

running joke that I say sometimes is

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that, I'm that person that, I'm not

going to push you off the cliff, but

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I am there to push you off the cliff.

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It's just that I'm holding your pants.

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I'm going to jump with you.

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Like, I am a, I'm going to force

you, and most people that hire me

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say, "You're almost too much for me.

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It's too scary for me to talk

to you, but I need that."

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I want to help you change your mind, but

the only way we change our mind is through

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action, and there's too many people

that are afraid to say those things.

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They're afraid to say that

"I'm about the action.

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I'm about the hustle."

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I mean, Oh my God, don't

say the word hustle.

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That's a swear word online, and it's

those types of things that make me

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different, and I had to own them.

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I'm very type A.

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I worked in corporate for

lots of years in construction.

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I have a very hard shell.

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I worked with all men that have lots of

things to say and treat women in lots

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of fashions, and so, I looked at that

when I started coaching as a negative,

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because I was told that by a coach.

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I was told you're not feminine

enough, and I'm like, "Uh", so I

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tried to be that and it didn't work,

which made me lose my edge, so you

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have to know what your edge is.

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Joshua: Well, first off, I have

an explicit warning on this

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podcast because of all the things

we talk about, so don't worry.

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You can use those swear words

anytime you want, Bridgit.

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You're good, but-

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Bridgit: Perfect!

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Joshua: But the other thing is, I have to

tell you, I've had a guest on the show.

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Her name is Mia.

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If Mia's listening to this, hello again,

but she works in the construction field

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also, but she does something unique

with photography,, and writing, and

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giving people blue collar opportunities,

so she's using that as empowerment to

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help her business, so I agree with you.

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Don't lose that edge because it's

something that is truly important,

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but you said something that really

catches my eye, and I do something

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similar in my coaching practices.

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You want to push them over the edge,

but you also grab onto them; make sure

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that they don't fall all the way, and I

almost do something similar where I have

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people write down their goals, but I

also want to be part of that goal process

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because I want to hold them accountable

for it, and I know where to push and

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pull and prod, so with that said, do

you know where to push, pull, and prod

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when it comes to those sort of people?

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Is there like a standard

that you usually use?

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Bridgit: No.

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Everyone is so different, and I think

how I push you is not going to- if

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I pushed everybody the same way I

pushed you, it would never work.

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It actually takes a really good coach to

understand and listen and understand where

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somebody's at, and the level of readiness

that they're at, because it doesn't matter

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if I think you're ready and I'm ready to

push you, but you still feel like you have

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10 more steps before you're even there.

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I don't work with that

on a level of, "Yes.

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I'm not going to let you stay there

forever", but give you the space.

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I'm not going to create the change.

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You have to be the one that creates

it, and so for me, when I say, "I'm

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jumping with you!", It's because I

have long lasting client relationships

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as part of the non conventional

stigma in the online space.

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I still connect with

people from years ago.

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I want to know what's happening with them.

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They're excited to message me and

say, "Guess what happened in my life?"

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Those are the things

that are important to me.

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Not forgetting someone two years from now

and just not even thinking about it, so

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for me, it's totally different, so when

I jump with you, I'm fully jumping for

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as long as you want to connect with me,

I'm riding that parachute down with you.

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Joshua: It is like jumping from a plane.

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Trust me.

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Bridgit: Pretty much.

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Joshua: I feel like I've done that many

a time, especially being in front of a

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room and speaking about my vulnerability,

and my situations that my audience knows,

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and I've shared with you too, and that

kind of branches into another topic I

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really want to explore with you, which

is about empowering others, so you

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kind of already led into some of those

aspects of it, but I think that for us

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to really be able to become the best

versions of who we are, there's also has

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to be some sort of level of empowerment,

so I guess for you, what would you say

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is that ripple effect that people need

to have in order for that change to

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happen so that they do feel empowered?

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Are there things in your life that

maybe you've learned, or maybe you have

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a situation that you can share that

might help accentuate that point too,

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but I'm curious, what would you say is

that effect that people need to create?

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Bridgit: I think that it's a fully- and

unless you have a coach that is aligned

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with this concept, it's very hard, but

you have to understand I have no power.

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I literally have no power, and

I'm not creating any of it.

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All I'm helping you do is really

open up to the idea of how much power

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you already have, where it exists,

how to tap back into it, how to

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bring it back, because it's yours.

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I love the feeling of, "You

helped me do this, and you helped

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me do that.", but at the end of

the day, I'm not doing anything.

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You are the one that's taking the actions.

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You're the one that's taking the steps.

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You're the one that is realizing how much

power you have, and I think that people

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should remember that, and should just own

that to begin with, and not saying that

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a coach won't help you walk back into it,

figure out what it looks like, what it

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is, but at the end of the day, you are

doing all the work, so own that part of

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it and really celebrate yourself for that,

even on day one of any kind of coaching.

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Just look at like speaking.

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I initially was like, "Oh

yeah, I want to public speak."

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I hate public speaking.

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I literally am terrified of it.

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It's just one of those things I've

been terrified of, and I thought

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it was a path I needed to follow,

and I kept trying to push and try.

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" Somebody helped me find my power in it."

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It's not for me.

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It's not something that I want to

do, so it's like understanding that.

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Do you really want to do

it, like, you love it?

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You love getting up there.

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You love telling people your story

and speaking, then that's awesome,

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but for me, it wasn't that, and

it's part of understanding and

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owning what my real power is.

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My power is not the stage presence.

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My power is behind that, so in

owning which part of that is for you.

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Joshua: Is this the part of the show

where you just rip off your shirt

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and go, "Yes, I'm Wonder Woman!"

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Is that what is going to happen?, because

I almost feel that way when you said that.

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It's like, "We find that hidden

power inside of ourselves."

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Bridgit: I love that.

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That's pretty awesome.

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Joshua: Yeah, yeah, no, I think it

is because I mean, for me, sometimes

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it's ripping off my shirt, like, "Yes.

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I'm Superman.

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I got to figure this out.", and sometimes

I don't have it all figured out too.

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I've had plenty of times

where I feel that way.

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Have you ever wondered though, like if

you did public speak, now that you brought

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it up, because I'm a public speaking

coach myself, do you ever play out in

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your mind of, "if I was that awesome

public speaker", would that change

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your trajectory of who you are today?

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Bridgit: You know what?

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I think that if you asked me that

question, like years ago, when I

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first started, I would say yes.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Bridgit: All these years advanced in both

age and kind of where you're at in the

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coaching, I think no, because it was never

who I was truly as a person and never who

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I was truly as a coach, and I know where

my power is now, and I don't think so.

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I think I would have been doing

something that years later, I would

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have been like, "Why did I do this?

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It didn't really lead me

to where I wanted to go."

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Same with people who go to school,

become a doctor and they're like,

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"I don't even want to be a doctor.

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Why am I doing this?"

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It's that same concept, but

if you asked me years ago, my

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answer would have been different.

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Now, I would say no to that, but because I

know, like, I've had a little experience.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Well, yeah, and I think it's trial

by error too, and a lot of people-

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Bridgit: Yes.

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Joshua: That we have, even myself.

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It's been trial by error.

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I thought I was going to be attorney.

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Thank goodness I didn't, because I would

have been probably the worst attorney ever

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because I've been way too compassionate,

probably lost my cases, but I think that

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we all figure out ways in which we are

able to enhance that sort of journey

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that we have, so, if somebody was going

through that, maybe they are stuck in that

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dead end job, or maybe they are stuck in

something that they really didn't want

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to have, what would you do or say to help

inspire them to get on the right path?

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Bridgit: Try everything, because I did.

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When I started, I did not have

a clue what I wanted to do.

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I didn't know, really.

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I just knew, "I might be

a little good at this.

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I might like this."

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I've done everything: seven

network marketing companies.

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I was horrible at network marketing.

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I own a brick and mortar fitness

company, which I actually loved.

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That's what turned into

me actually coaching.

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One of my clients actually said to me,

"You're a life coach,", and I'm like,

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"What is a life coach?", and then I

immediately Googled it and changed

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my life, but I've done everything.

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I've done all the things,

and I don't regret any of it.

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People say, "Oh, but you

wasted so much time."

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I didn't waste any time.

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I realized I didn't know what it was

that I wanted to do, so I tried it all.

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Now I can tell you.

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Don't like that; wasn't good

at that; that's not for me.

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I didn't have those answers before, so

if you have the ability and the freedom

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to try all the things, try it all.

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Life's too short not to try all of it.

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Try public speaking.

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You might love it.

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You might think, "Oh.

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That's so scary!", but you might

get out there and be like, "This

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is my thing, and I didn't know it."

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Write a book.

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I mean, try everything.

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Joshua: This is the part of the show where

I self advertise myself and say, "Yes.

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Please reach out to me for public speaking

coaching at contact@yourspeakingvoice.biz,

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so yes, thank you Bridgit, for that

awesome segue for my own business, but, is

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there something yet, though, you say that

you've done everything, and I believe you.

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I really do.

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I see it with the energy that

you've just shown so far.

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I really believe it, and I can tell

just from that confidence in you.

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It's part of me that I'm like, "Damn.

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I really want that

confidence from her too."

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Is there something that you haven't

tried yet that you really want to try?

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Bridgit: I really want to write

a book, and I've attempted to

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think about it so many times.

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I attempted to start writing things so

many times, and then, there's all these

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things that come in your mind that you're

like, "Nobody wants to hear my story.

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It's not important.

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Why would I share those things?

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How is it relevant?"

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I still have all of that because

it's something I really want to

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do, but I'm not really sure how to

make it happen, so I find excuses.

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Eventually, at some point, I'll have

to move off of the excuses and just do

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it, but I think that's the one thing

that has always been in there, because

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I like the ability for people to hear

or read, what I'm thinking; my words and

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to be moved by it, and at the end of the

day, that's enough, and it doesn't need

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to be something like number one best

seller, but just if it moves a couple

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people, that's enough for me, and I

think that that's what I want to do.

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I'm kind of off the idea of where

I used to share all those things on

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Facebook and all of that, because

it was kind of a place for me almost

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writing, like, almost writing a book,

but I've moved off of that because

415

social media platforms have changed so

much over the years, so, yeah; a book.

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Joshua: It's so easy nowadays to be

able to do that, though, with self

417

publishing widely available, and you

could even ask ChatGPT to write the

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book for you if you really wanted to.

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Bridgit: I know, that's so scary.

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Joshua: It is scary, and I

would highly discourage that.

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I've had authors on the show already

that have expressed why they do that

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passion, and I guess for many of us, we

have to find that inner voice inside of

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ourselves to really paint that picture of

what we want to share with our- I guess

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with this case, the readers of your book.

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Now, you have this sort of

program where you do revolting

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against the commonalities.

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You could change my opinion of this.

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I almost think of it with my mom's

generation, being hippie generation

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that she grew up in, it's like, "Yeah!

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Flower power!

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Love!

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Peace!", and those were all things in

which that was the rebel generation.

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When you say being this person that

pushes against the status quo, what do

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you mean by that in contemporary society?

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Maybe you might need to give that

definition before you explain

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what you do to help others.

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Bridgit: I love that you kind of

preface that because when you think

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about the hippie generation, my mom

grew up in that too, but they were

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all doing the same thing, right?

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They were all revolting

in the same exact way.

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That's kind of what they did.

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Now I look at it in a sense of when we

revolt, my revolt looks different than

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yours, and every person that I work

with, everybody's revolt is different,

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and I love that because it's boring

for all the same and we're all saying

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the same things and we're all doing

the same things, and I'm like, what

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is it that you want to revolt against?

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What is the thing?

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I always ask people, "What is the

number 1 thing, if you could say it

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out loud right now, you would say

it?", and usually, in a small group

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of women, everybody stares at me.

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Nobody wants to go first.

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Everybody's like, "Do I have

to?", and then as soon as one

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person's free to say, "Oh my God.

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If I could just say this, I would

say...", then everybody goes.

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I'm like, that's the thing.

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Start with that.

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That's your personal revolt.

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I don't care what it is.

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I don't care if it has to do with your

business, your personal life, if it

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has to do with some sort of charity.

461

Whatever it is, people are so afraid

to be canceled, and so afraid to be

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deemed as they're saying something

negative, when really they're just

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trying to express who they are.

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I think we have too much of

that conformity, so that's like

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the first thing I love hearing.

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"What's the secret?"

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What's the number one secret that

you want to say that you're just

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too terrified to say out loud?

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Joshua: I had a lot of people tell

me starting out with this podcast,

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when I told them what I was going

to talk about and what I was

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going to do, they're like, "Josh.

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Don't.

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Just don't do it, because you don't

want to be that vulnerable out there.

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People are going to

take advantage of you."

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I have yet to have that happen to

me, and yes, I'm doing this as of

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this recording, which will then be

aired later on, but I will tell you

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that even if that did happen, what

would they find out about me that I

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wouldn't tell them already in person?

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I think that's so true what you say

about trying to get people to just

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stand up and speak that truth out

loud, because we're often told, "No.

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Keep it down.

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We don't want anybody to hear that.", so

I love that fact that you kind of do that.

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Is that, going back to when you

were 12 and you left the house.

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Does it come from that sort of

mentality, or does it come from just

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other learned experiences that you've

had in your professional career?

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Bridgit: I think it's a culmination of

all of it, but I think it started with

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me just being willing to say the thing

that I wanted to say no matter what.

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Obviously when you're little, whatever

comes out of your mouth, you have no idea

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the repercussions of anything that you

can say, but for me, I didn't really care.

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I had a little bit of the, "I don't

really care what the repercussions

491

are.", and of course, you learn

a lot of lessons that way.

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You make a lot of mistakes when

you're young, and you make a lot

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of mistakes when you're an adult.

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I mean, we still constantly make

mistakes and that's fine, but I always

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look at it in a sense of I make a

mistake, but I'm doing it from a place

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of authenticity, and it's like, "Okay.

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I can admit I made a mistake, but this

is where I'm at.", I'm okay with that.

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I'm okay with tweaking and turning around.

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We always say, "Making a decision to

say something or do something is 10

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times better, whether it's right or

wrong, than being stagnant and doing

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nothing; saying nothing and doing

nothing", because that's a choice also.

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I just choose to move, and I choose

to help people move, and if the choice

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is wrong, then we'll course correct.

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If it's not in you, you're fine,

then you just keep moving forward.

505

We just keep making steps, but it's from

that place of never wanting to be stuck.

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That's just a word that I always used

to use a lot in coaching, like, you

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don't want to be stuck, and you're

stuck because you're making the

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decision not to move, and sometimes

that is by not just speaking.

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It's very freeing, sometimes

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Joshua: It is; no, it is.

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Were you ever stuck?

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Bridgit: Oh my God.

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Yes.

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Many times.

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I think the worst was; I think I was about

four years into my coaching business.

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I had coaches of my own.

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They were directing me in

paths that I should not have

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been following in my heart.

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I knew that it wasn't me, but

they're the smart ones, right?

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I'm following them, and I got to the

point where I was business coaching

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instead of doing what I was doing prior.

522

I had a group program.

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I closed it.

524

I closed the program or a month

early, and closed the business.

525

I did not even coach again for two years.

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I was so unhappy with myself,

unhappy with where I went,

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and then it became the stuck.

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"I'm not good at anything."

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"Nobody wants what I have."

530

"What makes me unique?"

531

All the way through, I knew what

that was, but all of a sudden, I got

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trapped in the bubble of the online

space, and it really, really hurt me.

533

If I was to pull out the two years

of journals that I have for that, you

534

would read the same things over and

over and over and over and over, and it

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was always about, "Why am I stuck here?

536

Why am I stuck here?", and it happens.

537

It can happen to anyone.

538

It happens at any time.

539

It's just how long do you

want to stay in that spot?

540

How long do you want to live in the

stuckness, for lack of a better word?

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Joshua: The answer is 32.

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That's how long it took me to finally

realize that something needed to change,

543

so sometimes it takes a lot longer

than others to be able to realize that.

544

Bridgit: Yeah, and I think some

of it is the tools like, and

545

also forgetting the tools that we

already inherently have, and we own.

546

It's forgetting those.

547

Forgetting we can still utilize

those, like, "Oh, wait a minute.

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I am this person.

549

I have this and I lost it.

550

How do I get it back?", and then learning

new skills, so yeah, I think that it's

551

different for everyone, but I think

you experiencing what you did, myself,

552

there's a little bit of ability to now

share that and say, "You still might

553

have to go through it for 32 years, or

2 years, depending on your process, but

554

I'm here to give you some, you know,

half the way through that might be

555

helpful; might make it faster for you."

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Joshua: Well, with that said, there's

one more question I have for you since

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we're almost near the end of our time,

and it is, what would you share to my

558

listeners if they are stuck in that,

that might help them to get started

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back on that path of not only rebelling

from that past conventions that they

560

have of themselves or others, and

start to explore and empower others?

561

What would you say is

really that first step?

562

Bridgit: I'm going to always bring it back

to the, what I call the "unsexy work."

563

It's the non-flashy work

that needs to be done.

564

It's not sexy.

565

It's not great.

566

It is the foundational work of really

honing, and sometimes, and I use this

567

with clients, I use certain strengths

tests and personality tests, because

568

you'd be surprised at the things that

come out of those; the things that you

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remember about yourself, the things that

then you can take and apply and go, "Wow.

570

I am this person.", and if that part

of it, I always pull people back to

571

the same thing, especially women.

572

Find that 12 year old little girl,

and remember her, and who was she?

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What were the things that

you were like, "Oh my God.

574

I love that about her.

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What is that?", because

you still own those things.

576

They're inherently inside you.

577

Those are the things that are

going to- when you bring them out,

578

when you remember that, when I

remembered I was that rebellious,

579

like, "I don't have to conform.

580

I can rebel against anything.

581

I can say or do anything.

582

I've done it."

583

It was like weight lifted off,

and the whole world, it was

584

like, your mind goes, "Poof!

585

Holy crap.

586

I can do whatever.", and it also,

the craziness of not knowing

587

maybe what you want to do.

588

Say you want to coach or not knowing

maybe what kind of coaching or what

589

kind of business you want to open or

whatever that is, all of a sudden you

590

gain a lot of clarity to where you're

forcing it before you're forcing to try

591

to figure out what that thing is; what

the thing that you want to do or try is.

592

It kind of comes a lot more natural.

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Joshua: That's really what this is about

is making it natural when it's unnatural

594

sometimes to do the most extraordinary

things in our lives, so, Bridgit, with

595

all that said, I really love the fact

that you are leading this sort of life.

596

I always give my guests an opportunity

to pitch themselves if people are

597

interested in contacting you or

having interest in any programs that

598

people have that are being offered.

599

I mean, I hope at some point you write

that book that you talk about, it's

600

like I have you back on the show.

601

We can talk about the book, but if

people are listening today, and they're

602

interested because of just this awesome

mindset you have and that you're

603

challenging both women and men to do

these sort of things, how can people

604

reach out to you to get connected?

605

I'll give you the last few

minutes to pitch yourself.

606

Bridgit: Super easy for me.

607

I'm on Facebook and Instagram.

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It's Bridgit Norris, B R I D G I T Norris,

and my son picks on me because I'm old.

609

He said only old people

use Facebook, I guess.

610

This is the thing.

611

I utilize Facebook more than Instagram

and the TikToks and all the other

612

things, but I am on Instagram.

613

I think the biggest thing is that I don't

spend a lot of time on there, so anybody

614

who needs anything ever, my email is open.

615

I'm one of those people where I'm not

going to turn anyone away, so if you need

616

something, if you have a question, if

you- anything, my email is always open.

617

I would just tell people to shoot

me an email and I'm here for that.

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Joshua: Awesome.

619

I'll put all that, including your

email that you have, into the episode

620

notes in case anybody's interested

in reaching out to you, but, listen.

621

I feel a little bit more rebellious

after talking to you today because I know

622

for myself, I need to keep doing that.

623

Keep giving myself that mantra to keep

walking through life, and also have that

624

voice that I always talk about having that

ability to change the world that is always

625

changing, and I think that you are on that

path of destiny, regardless of the number

626

of companies, regardless of the number

of careers you've had, Bridgit, and for

627

all those reasons, I want to thank you so

much for being on Speaking From The Heart,

628

and sharing your heart with us today.

629

I really enjoyed our conversation.

630

Bridgit: I did too.

631

Thank you so much.

632

This was amazing.

633

Joshua: I want to thank Bridgit

again so much for being part of

634

the show, and sharing her heart.

635

Not only about what she has been through

in her life, but to get to where she is

636

now, and helping other people realize

that deep down inside of themselves,

637

they're able to change anything if they're

willing to put their heart, mind, and

638

soul into it, which always leads to the

question, how were you raised growing up?

639

Are you able to challenge the status quo

of not only the things that you've been

640

told growing up, but what has changed

since then that you have continued to

641

lead that path of least resistance?

642

I think that we get caught up,

especially as we get older, in the

643

ways in which we're able to hold on

to those well found beliefs that we

644

know are really the inspiration, the

energy, and even the drive for that

645

matter, to keep moving the needle

forward, but what really has changed?

646

You might even have kids now.

647

You might even have a different set of

circumstances that face you in terms

648

of life, and what it's all about, but

how you keep pushing forward, and how

649

you keep inspiring others, is what

really makes the difference, not only

650

in the ways in which you're inspiring

yourself, but those around you as well.

651

We have to learn that the online space,

especially when we share that kind of

652

conversation, doesn't dictate what we

need to do to be able to be involved

653

with not only the rebellious spirit

that we have inside of ourselves,

654

but we need to be able to keep on

moving that desire needle forward.

655

We need to be able to understand

that having the right people, the

656

right circumstances, if you will, to

create that catalyst for change has

657

to come from a place in which we're

always moving ourselves into that

658

direction that we're wanting to go.

659

It means hiring the right people.

660

It means getting people behind you that

not only are going to help you be that

661

rebel, but maybe even be just a nice

person overall, whether it's in your

662

personal life, your professional life,

whether it's even in your business,

663

just as what Bridgit was talking about,

but you have to change your mind to

664

be able to address these aspects,

and that means actually opening up

665

your mindset, and we've even talked

about with other guests and even other

666

episodes about the importance of this.

667

Here's another fine example of somebody

that has really proven my point of how you

668

keep moving that needle forward, but the

change that we need to create means that

669

we have to work on a level that allows

us to create that change, meaning, that

670

if we don't have the right circumstances,

the right resources, the right inputs

671

to be able to do that, then we are going

to fail, and failure is something that

672

even Bridgit and myself would agree, we

don't ever want to see in our clients.

673

Coaches have no power though, to be able

to make that influence, which is why it's

674

so important to understand that failure

doesn't necessarily come from a coach.

675

It can come from the individual

that is working with that coach.

676

Now, I have to caveat a few

things with saying that statement.

677

If the coaches don't have a good program,

in which they are methodically moving that

678

person forward into the places or even

the individuals that they want to become,

679

of course it's going to create problems.

680

Of course it's going to not only wreak

havoc in the things that they're trying

681

to achieve, but of course the actions

that they're going to take as clients

682

are never going to be successful.

683

That's why it's so important for my

coaches out there that you have a good

684

program that'll allow you to not only

articulate what you have as offerings,

685

but it gives you a roadmap for that

client to understand where the value is.

686

Some of my other coaching

friends would even agree.

687

If you are not adding value and you're

regurgitating the same material that

688

someone else is already doing, what

is it that you're bringing to the

689

table that really allows them to see

themselves reach their full potential?

690

Whether you're in the fitness industry,

marketing industry, or some other

691

industry in which you're helping others

provide a service, you have to realize

692

that networking with other individuals

so that you are learning and growing and

693

not only working on your craft, but also

inspiring others, will help you to move

694

yourself into the direction that you

need to be, but even with the coaching

695

piece set for my clients, you have to

be able to understand that the power

696

that you have, that manifest destiny

if you will, of the unlimited potential

697

that you can create through a coach,

lies strictly on you to carry through.

698

While many coaches would tell you

that you have to follow the plan point

699

by point by point, it's always about

understanding that there's a level of

700

flexibility that adapts to your ability

that you have, because we are not all

701

created equally, and I think that's one

thing that coaches miss the mark on.

702

I'm not a rebel.

703

Bridgit is the rebel and I will always

go to her if I want to be the rebel.

704

I'm the person that wants

to create order from chaos.

705

I want to help people figure out where

they want to go in life, find the best

706

versions of themselves, but at the same

token, keep moving that needle forward

707

in regards to finishing what they have

started, just as we talked about with

708

the previous interview episode, which I

had Juanita Gaynor on, talking about that

709

concept, but the real question becomes:

What is it that you want to do to help

710

others to create those authentic lives?

711

It's really simple, and Bridgit

even said it: speak the truth.

712

The worst thing you could ever do,

whether you're on the client side

713

or on the coaching side, is to lie,

to make promises in which you can't

714

keep, and even the worst thing

you could ever do, is misrepresent

715

what you are bringing to the table.

716

My proposals always bring a set

of terms and conditions, but more

717

importantly, the process in which

we're going to walk through.

718

It doesn't mean that we always

follow that process to exact T, but

719

yet, every time that we cross the

T's and dot the I's, we're making

720

progress in the right direction.

721

Sometimes it takes a little bit

longer for some clients over others

722

to be able to achieve that, so you

have to be patient with the process.

723

Don't immediately throw the towel

in, thinking that you're not

724

ever going to make any successful

moves, or push yourself into the

725

right direction for that matter.

726

You have to learn to not only respect

the process, but to speak the truth

727

about that process, so that the

people that you're working with know

728

exactly what the deliverables are.

729

Don't just stand there and say

nothing though at the same time.

730

You got to keep moving forward, and

it's usually pretty easy for us to keep

731

moving forward, especially if we have

the motivation to be able to do so.

732

We have to gain the clarity

in being able to do that.

733

And I will tell you, even from a

personal experience, being able to

734

find clarity is usually very hard, when

you're in the forest, not being able

735

to see one foot in front of the other.

736

It's like a heavy fog, if you

will, to keep on going with

737

my weather terms for today.

738

We keep on seeing what's ahead, but yet

a dense fog immediately moves inside

739

our path and distorts our ability to

keep moving forward as well, because

740

we can't quite get the right footing,

remember the terrain that we're supposed

741

to walk, and we need to be able to hold

ourselves accountable with a coach,

742

to be able to navigate whether it is

through a forest, or through thick fog.

743

What can you do, especially

remembering who you are from the

744

past, in order to create the best

version of who you are today?

745

That is the ultimate question that

we're asking here, and whether you

746

think that it's a very long, drawn out

process, or if it's easy to do with the

747

snap of a finger, you have to realize

that sometimes it's easier said than

748

done, and that the hard work that

needs to be accomplished takes time.

749

It takes diligence.

750

It takes the persistence to keep moving

on, knowing that that memory of what

751

you thought it was long ago can be

distorted and warped into something

752

completely different than what it is

today that you're trying to achieve.

753

I have said long ago about the importance

of figuring out what it means to find your

754

authentic voice, and it means that you

have to find your own individuality, your

755

own idea, which is why I've always said,

I love talking to coaches on this show.

756

I'm not equal to what Bridgit

is, and Bridgit is rocking it.

757

She's doing things that she would

have never ever thought possible if

758

it wasn't for the fact that she wants

to help empower others, not only to

759

find that authentic voice, not only

to break the limitations that clients

760

might have, but the potential that we

all have inside of ourselves sometimes

761

means that we have to surround ourselves

with the right people, the right

762

circumstances, at the right time.

763

For so long, we can always say to

ourselves that we need to do this and

764

we need to do that, in order to achieve

what that best version of ourselves

765

are, but when you don't have the right

roadmap, and the roadmap itself changes

766

because of enhancements that are done

over the years, I can understand why

767

some people get lost along the way.

768

Technology has helped so much to get

people back on track, especially if

769

they're on that wonderful road trip,

which in a future episode, we'll even

770

talk about the importance of why it's

needed to have that map to be able

771

to guide yourself, especially when

you're on a cross country adventure

772

of self exploration, but hear me out.

773

Even if you have somebody in the passenger

side, helping you to navigate to where you

774

need to be, that is really a great idea

if you think about it, because sometimes

775

when you get lost, it's okay to have

somebody that you can turn to, especially

776

when you need help the most, but when

you're a rebel, and you're defying the

777

odds, and you're pushing the boundaries,

not only are you a radical thinker,

778

but you're chasing a dream that, of all

dreams, you deserve to have, and I think

779

that's pretty damn worthy of you to be

able to do that, because let's face it.

780

With a life that is full of unlimited

potential and limitless possibilities, I

781

would want Brigit by my side, because I

would want to be a rebel as well: finding

782

people's voices in this ever changing

world, and creating relationships,

783

confidence, and determination to change

not only the voices that we have deep

784

inside of ourselves, dating all the

way back from childhood, but helping

785

others to find what their authentic

voice is to shout it from any forest,

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any dense fog, but more importantly,

what they are able to do to help

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others realize their full potential.

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Thanks for listening to episode

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Heart, and I look forward to

hearing from your heart, very soon.

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