Enough! We need an election to lance this boil of a government.

The topics include:

• An article by Alison Courtice
• David Garland
• CPE qualifications
• The Australian way of life is collectivist. Lachlan’s ‘freedom’ cry is a US import
• That Slap
• Joe’s Topics
• Vaccine consent case for parents
• VAD doctor describes what it's like to administer
• Gonski was a while back, things are still broken
• Shock-horror. Adani mine isn't bringing many jobs to QLD
• True cost of fossil fuel subsidies
• Anti-China Murdoch borrows money from China owned bank.
• Anglican Church using government aged-care money to pay sex abuse victims.
• Morrison and Liberals ep 333
• Post Wedding Revelation
• The List
• Sex in the Prayer Room
• Concetta Fierravanti-Wells
• It’s not just Murdoch
• Criticised the federal government for spending money on disaster relief?
• Our Parliament is a joke
• Scott Morrison must reveal any text messages from QAnon friend
• Can’t Rent? Buy a house
• Scott Morrison says it would have been ‘weakness’ for him to meet new Chinese ambassador
• Incentives to ‘embrace’ training, digital world
• 1 Star Reviews for Morrison
• AAT Appointments
• Preselection
• Hillsong Update
• Medivac Mystery solved?
• Ash Barty
• Australian Future Leaders Program.
• In summary
• Solomon Islands
• Seven Mountains on the Gold Coast

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Well, hello, dear listener, the iron fist and the velvet glove podcast

episode 333 on the 5th of April, 2022.

I of course am Trevor AKA, the iron fist with me as always is

Shay the subversive good evening.

And J the tech guy evening.

All right, well, the listener, we've got an enormous number

of topics on the agenda here.

Not sure how many we're going to get through before we get.

Up into a warm bath and slid our risks in despair.

So in order to just stay sane would probably rattle through some of the

goings on of Scott Morrison in the last two weeks in a, in a sort of a

summary fashion, because it's just too painful, otherwise isn't it.

So we're gonna jump around a bunch of different topics.

We can talk about just how much it's got Morrison has firehosed us

with rots mistakes lies in the last two weeks of satanic news, a bit of

religious instruction, news, chaise, and a little bit of news as well.

We're going to jump around a whole bunch of things.

Stay with us if you're in the chat room say hello and already Jack ages there.

Good on your Jack.

So well, shy went to kick us off.

Got any news.

Yeah, I'm not as despairing as usual because on Saturday I organized

hosted, facilitated an MSA, a young workers conference, and I had 50 young

workers there, some union members union officials, people who were just curious.

So it was a really good day and lots of vibrant, lively

talent coming up the ranks.

So, yeah, so we should all be pleased with this guy for this

conference just from 10 til two.

Right?

So it was on a Saturday and the premise was sort of young workers present to young

workers and give us all a chance to talk about stuff that matters to us without

having, you know, being lectured to by.

Obama's it went really well.

I was wondering where my invitation went because I realized I'm not

young and I'm not a worker, so,

and I'm fast aging out of that demographic too.

So, but it was really good.

Put them all together.

So topical issues where climate change, wage theft and yeah, I'm kind of a

little bit on an automation and a little bit on renewables and transitioning.

So electricians are moving fast in that area.

So they got up and spoke about that.

And what, what did they mean by wage theft?

What aspect of, so wage theft is like, when that I pay you penalty rates, so

they don't pay you to award rates, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So there's a lot of that happening to young workers.

Yep.

Oh, good.

Oh, well done that personally speak a fair bit or just other people speaking.

I just had other people speak.

Yeah.

But it did get me thinking today about especially looking at your notes about

how to get conversations, because I think it is about having secular

conversations everywhere in any way.

So for instance, I'm part of the planning committee for Memorial day

on the 28th, which is a sort of a union event where they what's the

word, just sort of commemorate.

The people who've died at work.

And so there's just a heavy Catholic influence without any real consideration

about what does it have to since when, why are unions, you know, flirting

with these ideas still when we don't.

Yep.

They're not in line with a number of our other issues that we care about.

So that's what got me thinking is like, we've already set the date for

next year's young workers conference.

And I should start thinking now about how to get a panel or something around

secularism and have young people start thinking about the pervasive

nature of religion in our affairs.

Yeah.

I'll leave that to you.

And you can come back.

Yeah.

So at a ceremony designed to talk about workers who have died at work and it will,

it'll be led by a priest and lots of hail Mary's and our father's thrown in there.

It's so impersonal that stuff.

I went to a great way um, since we last met and celebrate of course,

as most of them are these days.

And there's a really good wedding in that it was so personal.

There wasn't any religious stuff at all.

And it was just about the couple, their stories, all the rest of the.

Really just personal stuff.

And I always find if I go to a wedding where there's just a prayer

or something involved, it just depersonalizes the whole thing.

So Anzac day ceremonies.

Well, you've heard me ranting about those for years and we'll

mention that in a minute, actually.

And yeah.

So it's interesting.

We should, we could work on a, you know, a new program for a

secular union sort of thing.

Yeah.

Cause I'm at the table helping the planning.

Really, my first thought is it should have stories from people

who have lost people and what happened and what it meant to them.

And yeah.

That's should be personal and how it could have been avoided and how it

should have been and all the rest of it.

So yeah, stuff about them.

So documentary to the 40th anniversary of um, the Vulcan.

Uh, And of the beginning and end of every section between ad breaks, there

was a scene of the mountains outside of Stanley, and there's a huge bloody

cross on top of it as a Memorial.

And I'm thinking how many of those soldiers were actually

Christians and how many weren't.

And this was the enduring vision of the whole thing was a very Christian object.

Yeah.

Okay.

So with this lineup of topics tonight, I was just going to, I came in

with the thought of just scampering around Willy nilly between them.

And this is good because we've mentioned Anzac.

And so I'm going to get in a roundabout way to Anzac day because

I'm Alison quarter's from Queensland parents for secular state schools.

Excellent.

Article did a great article, which appeared in the rationalist

and it was about the history of religious instruction in Queensland.

And I'll talk about that in a moment, but what it does mention in the article

is that there was essentially this guy, David Garland, who was I think it's

yeah, David Garlon an Irish Anglican who was really the driving force

of religious instruction lessons in Queensland brought about the referendum.

But he's out of climbed define is that he was the driving force behind

the Anzac day ceremony in Queensland.

And that became like a temp light for other states and even other countries.

So.

Let me find this bit about David Garland from this isn't from Alison's

article it's, it's something else where I'd previously been looking at

his biography and David Garland and important architect and originator of

Anzac day ceremonies and rituals Garlon was described in 1924 by acting premier

WN Gillies as the life and soul of the Anzac day commemoration committee.

So Garland initiated the Anzac day, March the returned soldiers

luncheon, the two minutes silence, the reef line ceremonies at memorials

and the special church services.

He also began a trustees money raised from antique day badges for the care

of soldiers, grades at home and abroad.

Dah, dah, dah, badge, and ceremonies vigorously backed by Garland were

taken up in other states and to a very large extent in New Zealand and great.

So the guy behind religious instruction lessons was also the

guy behind Anzac day ceremonies.

Two of the things I've been to, the three things I've been rabbiting

on of it over the last six years.

Yeah.

Think he wasn't responsible for it seems was chaplaincy.

Let's do on how it probably, but this is the strange world I inhabit the

listener, but I I noted in this article that it said that he died 9th of October,

1939 and was buried into long cemetery.

And I thought to myself, I wonder if I could find out exactly where he's buried.

Do you know?

You can just go online, look up things.

I I've got his plot number.

I've looked at the map.

I know exactly where he's buried.

If I win this court case with religious instruction, I am going to.

Going to that grave and have a quiet moment with him and say, God, Daniel, your

influence lasted over a hundred years.

Finally been put to bed if we, if we managed to do it, huh?

I thought you were going to have a pink mass on his.

No, it wasn't too bad, but yeah.

SiteOne cemetery.

I'll be there if we have a win.

So so yeah, David Garland, but just getting back to Alison's article

and Alison is in the chat room.

Good on you.

Alison great article.

And thanks for the mention.

So she mentioned that religious instruction had its Genesis

in the 1910 referendum.

And that basically Garland was just this agitator who was just had zeal

and organizing ability, convinced the state to hold a referendum.

It was like a non-compulsory plebiscite.

The labor party ran dead on the issue again, a little bit scared and.

The main problem was that just general apathy by everybody,

everybody except Garland.

And of course not that many voted for that particular question

compared to the population in the end, only 28 and a half percent of

registered voters were in favor of it.

But that was more than those who were not in favor of it.

So the government reluctantly introduced that law into our education legislation.

Prior to that, there had been this conflict between the Catholics and

the Protestants were, they didn't want teaching in Catholic schools

because they were worried about Catholic kids being exposed to

Protestant ideas and vice versa.

But anyway, Garlon was keen on the Bible and teaching and he got it

in and it's been there ever since.

And also.

Oh, the BT government, 2006, they tried to look at introducing

sort of humanism as an option.

So, okay.

If we're going to have religious in the lessons, let's at least allow

humanists in to give him an IST instruction and Australian Christian

lobby and other Christian RI providers manufactured a storm claiming these

changes would allow witchcraft, paganism and Scientology into the classroom.

All of, of course are already allowed in the classroom,

arguably witchcraft, paganism, the Scientology or all religions.

So they frightened Christians into bombarding, their state members

of parliament with objections, and the most gobsmacking development

occurred when they then federal education minister, Julie Bishop.

Actually threatened to cut off Queensland state school education

funding if the changes were passed.

So in shock BD government withdrew, the proposed changes.

And and of course she mentioned that the news template of site and

is involved in the current action and that might cause some changes.

And also during the court case when the barrister Mr.

Thompson for the government was talking about our desire to run satanic lessons.

And I'm referring to that.

Alison writes in his questioning to Robyn Bristow, the leader of the temple, Mr.

Thompson described RI as requiring that other school children would have to

waste their time doing something else.

He also said it would cause significant inconvenience in the administration

of the schools and disruption because other children wouldn't be

attending this religious education.

And we'd have to be put out of their classes to do something else.

And of course that's what happens every day, the kids who

aren't doing Christian lesson.

So I'm so good on your Alison.

That was a good one.

And and she's in the chat room.

Alison says that she went through hand sods and there are some really good

speeches and discussions in there.

And like, I remember Alison has sent me some of that, which

I needed for the court case.

So I'd read through it all as well.

And it's interesting actually, when you look at how people spoke in those

days, they were quite passionate, but well-spoken compared to a lot of the

drivel you hear in parliament today.

So, so yeah, so that's religious instruction and segwaying

out of Anzac day ceremonies.

And just one other thing on sort of satanic activism

before we ended up politics is.

As you know, we did a right to information request with the sunshine

coast hospital to see what they had written internally about our, if it's

to commence sort of chaplaincy offering.

And anyway, in the turns out there is a requirement in the with Queensland

health that anybody wishing to offer chaplaincy services in a Queensland

government hospital needs to have some qualifications, which includes a clinical

pastoral education course CPE course.

And so it's possible to enroll in various organizations and get yourself a CPE.

So I thought fine.

Look it up, obviously Robin and I, at least one of us is going to have to do it.

Guess what?

1800 bucks.

It wasn't so much the cost or the time, but the only organizations that oh, for

the course are all obviously extremely religious course and you know providers.

So it's a training program.

That's at the moment completely dominated by religious bodies.

There is no secular organization offering CPE and I thought, oh, maybe I might be

able to just enroll, do it online, wiggle my way through without declaring yourself.

But it seems quite intense in that they do interview you and

ask you while you're doing it.

And it's quite a lot of, you have to do like up to a hundred hours.

On the job work experience stuff as well.

Like it's quite the effort, dear listener.

So anyway, I'm talking to Justin Marie, who's the secular chaplain

who was a secular chaplain down in Canberra and Canberra operates

differently because as you know, they're much more progressive down there.

So they just had a brief course down there and they were much more

inviting for secular chaplain.

So he in Canberra only had to do a short course of a few days and, and

was able to be a chaplain in Canberra.

So but it's different in Queensland.

So anyway, that's the reciprocal qualifications.

No, that wasn't, it has to be a nationally recognized CPE course.

And it doesn't sound like the Canberra one is so ready and sure as eggs, if

we apply, there'll be checking very carefully what our qualifications were.

If we were.

Robin and Trevor from the Noosa church of Christ, they wouldn't even blink and

say, oh yeah, you did a CPE in camera.

That'll do.

But of course, that won't do when we do it.

So one option is to start a training organization, organization.

So we could start an institution and apply to Esquire, to become an credited

registered training organization, and then teach a CPE course to anyone who wants it.

That's a lot of effort, isn't it?

In my spare time.

And the other question, maybe you couldn't find somebody who already

has the qualification, but he's no longer a believer and he's

willing to say they're a Satanist.

That's the hard part.

Not many people are willing to do that.

I mean, if you're out there, we're all ears by all means.

If you know a disgruntled for.

I wonder if the clergy project or you were aware of the clergy project.

Yes, I am.

Yep.

I'm going to describe it.

Do you want to describe it?

So I believe it's Darryl Ray set up an organization.

He's a psychologist in America and it's the recognition that if you are a preacher

and that has been your livelihood and you no longer believe life becomes very, very

hard for you because effectively your whole life is based around the church

about something you no longer believe in, and you don't have any particular

skills to go out to an employer.

And so it's, it's supporting these people and then transition out of being a church

leader and finding suitable employment and quite often it easy in saccular county.

It's in therapy.

It's in other sorts of, because these people are a great speakers that are

writers and, and the caring, and they're very good at listening to people and

helping them talk through their problems.

And it's just taking the religion out of that and giving them the skills

to have a secular conversation.

I thought it was, I C I thought it was more of a self-help group for people

who were stuck and had nowhere to go.

So they were still in their positions in religious organizations.

You're right.

Yep.

Yep.

Because there are a large number who just lose the faith, but they want to

continue their pastoral work and they really downplay the mumbo-jumbo and

just concentrate on helping people.

And yeah.

So, yeah.

Claire's your project.

So that's interesting.

One.

Maybe I've got somebody who's done the course.

And he's willing to be a Satanist, but I doubt it.

I think that's a long shot.

Yeah.

Anyway that's but this is, it's a perfect after the religious instruction

sort of case, it's the perfect item for satanic instruction, because

pretty much if they let any religious group in and you are a Satanist, but

you have the qualification, they're not going to be able to stop eating.

So it's either all in or none.

So it's the perfect sort of venue for that satanic activism.

Whereas the religious discrimination bill didn't really lend itself to

satanic activism because really what that bill was doing was saying,

well, if you've got an organization, we'll let you discriminate against.

And that's not what we want to do.

So something like ROI or the chaplain sees it's much better

suited where it's a case of you've given these rights and privileges

and we'll, we'll take them as well.

Thank you very much.

And maybe you'll think twice about it.

So anyway, let's see what happens with RI first of all, and go from there,

but it sounds like they used to be a, the Navy had actually moved towards

Justin was telling me the Navy had moved towards more secular chaplains, but he

had heard that they'd actually started moving back to more religious chaplains.

So it wouldn't surprise me actually, if there is a bit of a demand for

people who want to have training in chaplaincy, but in a very secular sense.

Yeah, so we'll see.

Right.

All of that was there.

Look, let's get Scott Morrison and his rubbish out of the way

before we move on to deeper things.

Actually Brahman in the chat room clinical pastoral education link Brahman.

Is that a secular teaching of it?

Or is that a religious one?

Could you let us know?

Oh actually it says here the CPE courses offered by the Royal Perth hospital and

doesn't look specifically religious.

Okay.

So that I've got the link for later.

Okay.

We'll have to look at that.

Maybe the AB there's a one in Western Australia.

So if it's nationally recognized, yes.

Okay.

I will look into that.

Thank you, Brahman.

That's a good one.

Thank you.

So Scott Morrison I mentioned, I went to a wedding a couple of weekends ago.

So as you can imagine afterwards, talking to young and old folk and just

sounding them out of their politics, I'm not going to talk about the Broncos.

No, fair enough.

And you know, what, how do you think Morrison's going and blah, blah, blah.

You know, and certainly this wedding had a mixture of people who traditional

conservative voters and others were not.

So look, relax, everybody Morrison, he's done.

He's toast.

He's gone.

Like he's out the door.

It's just a question of, by how much there is a confident prediction

for you based on the straw poll.

But yeah.

So are they going to change horse before the election though?

Between now and then I think people have stopped listening.

Yeah.

And he could come out with almost anything now, and I don't

think people will swallow it.

So so it's also not real good for Peter Dutton.

Like if it kind of sets him up, if he loses this one, provided the ICAC, doesn't

get him and see what make a formidable opposition leader from his prime minister.

Right.

I thought a lot of the LMP or anyone, but Darden.

And that's how Scotty got in there in the first place.

Well, maybe as prime minister, but not as opposition leader.

I think there's only a handful of votes in it though, between the two of them.

Wasn't it?

When they had their, was it because I had frightened was, yeah, he's

probably the preferred and same for him.

Yeah.

It makes sense for him to lose the election and become opposition later.

So he gets a crack at prime minister next time.

Anyway Yeah, just talk to people.

I think everybody was recognizing the other property bubble

instead of isn't it great.

My house is now worth an extra 500,000.

A lot of people are now going, this is actually not good.

I think people are getting the idea that we've crossed over from enjoying the, the

windfall to worrying about the problem.

My, I think they're worried that it's going to burst.

Yes.

That people will be overextended.

Yes.

Even people who maybe have paid off their house.

I think they're worried about what it means for young people.

And I think we've crossing over there.

But of course, if you the, the best form of rent assistance is

helping young people to buy house.

Yes.

That's one of the ones on his list.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, here's what we were talking about earlier.

Here's what, here's my thinking like during the two weeks, since we last sort

of gathered together, dear listener, you know, every time Scott Morrison

tells an obvious lie or another wrought is revealed or another disturbing

mistake becomes apparent, find the link predominates and under the heading of

Morrison and liberals episode 3, 3, 3.

And if I end up with a list of about 15 things, which we could

forensically go through and go, what a just knob fool buffoon, awful

evil man, he is blah, blah, blah.

But to some extent, I think it's a case of all those incidents are

the trees and we really should be looking at the forest and.

We've just wandered into a dark evil forest that is the Morrison government,

and we just need to get the hell out.

And we don't need to identify every bad trail on the wine because,

because there's just so many of them.

And I think I'll put the picture of picture of Morrison and Trump on the ad

for this podcast, because it's kind of Trump, like, remember with Trump, there

was so many things happening, lies, errors, misdemeanors exposed that you

couldn't talk about them thoroughly enough because another one was on your plate

and they all merged into each other.

And if that have happened to any other government would normally

keep people busy for two weeks was talking about each thing, but there

were five of these things every day.

And we've got this thuggish guy.

Yes.

Do you want to explain Gish Gallop?

So Duane Gish was a famous creationist and he would regularly have debates

with scientists too, or people who actually understood evolution.

And his usual tactic was just to far off so many falsehoods in his five

minutes or whatever it was that you just couldn't rebut every single one.

And he would then seize on the ones that you hadn't rebutted

and go see because you haven't rebutted these, these must be true.

Yes.

And, and so it's just the firing off of so many false herds that it's just

impossible to debunk them all in the time.

Yes.

And the time taken to debunk them, then you couldn't talk about the

thing you want to talk about the term.

My, if I get Gish galloped by somebody, my response is to say.

Look, you've said a lot of things, a lot of different issues.

I can't begin to go through all of them.

You tell me your best one.

What out of all that, that you've just said is your best argument.

And if I deal with that one and knock it over, then I reckon I'd

have to deal with your others.

Give me a best shot, identify the best one.

And just do that.

If you over ever Gish Gallop by somebody, try that one.

Dear listener as a debating technique.

We, it was, so it just back to the wedding got into a bit of a discussion with some

young fellows about Ukraine and stuff.

Average Joe out there doesn't know what's going on in Ukraine.

Doesn't understand.

I don't think the whole history of it, the NATO buildup the

thread that that meant a Russia.

It's pretty much most of the thinking out there is do that.

Putin is a bad evil guy.

If it wasn't for him, we'd all be going.

Okay.

And that, you know, the USA is still a good guys standing

for freedom and democracy.

And so of course I had to argue that they're not.

So that was good.

It doesn't get pretty heated or if I love it and love it, I think they do

the ultimate wedding guest,

maybe I'm wrong, but

having seen a lot of Bellingcat information recently, it's just the layers

of corruption in Russia and the, the overt bumping off of political opponents.

The poisoning of anybody.

And I don't know if you saw the peace negotiators were all

poisoned at the conference, the Ukrainian peace negotiators.

No, I didn't see that.

Yeah.

There was a mass poisoning.

Really?

Yes.

And that has right.

Yeah.

Active type things.

Some crazy poison, a bad egg.

No, no, it was, it was deliberate poisoning.

I'm not sure what it was.

I don't think it was radioactive though.

Right?

Because they, yeah, they said, oh, we thought it was food.

And there, because it was all of us at the same time.

And then there were other symptoms.

And given that the FSB have now poisoned that we know of at least

three political opponents and considerably more are suspect.

Well, I would not have heard that though.

That's a very anti-Russian thing.

Yes.

Surely the mainstream media would love to, I don't know about, I don't know

why or wouldn't have heard of that.

Yeah.

I mean, there's lots of stuff that just seems to not get talked about.

Yeah, well of course the whole peace deal never gets talked about.

Like we know Russia has said and over, just give up on Crimea, give up on the

Donbass and change the constitution.

So he has actually said we're willing to not join NATO.

And there were a couple of other things.

I forget what it was.

So he is also a suggested piece.

And of course the Russians are having a temporary ceasefire which the cynics

are saying is just them withdrawing to regroup, get ready for another attack.

What will, the other thing I've read is that sort of militarily, you know,

the, the attacks that they did it in Kia, for example, where, because they

intended to take the city, but really just to tie up Ukrainian forces and

their main objectives were in the east with the, you know, the, to create, you

know, to carve off that Donbass area.

And that was their main consideration and that the other attacks were

really just to keep the main Ukrainian forces away from there.

So anyway, we'll see how it pans out, whether he stops with that or not.

So I did see an interesting discussion about how the Ukrainian forces were

punching above their weight, mostly because they have called up everybody.

They possibly can.

Russia politically can't call up their conscripts.

Can't call up the reserves without claiming that it's a war

and they don't want to do that.

And the Russian soldiers just aren't invested in them.

They're coming in and being seen as the invaders.

They're not being welcomed with open arms as they'd been

promised that they would be.

And so they're demoralized.

Whereas of course the Ukrainians are going, this is an invading force.

We're gonna fight to the last man.

Yeah.

But the Canada that is, if, if all they want to do is secure the Donbass

essentially, then they're achieving that.

And they're not really serious about the other areas.

So they've lost an awful lot of weapons and troops to distract.

Yeah, it's, where's the truth.

Who knows?

We'll it's it's who knows.

Yes.

I lost my train of thought on the Ukraine, but I will come back to Ukraine later,

but yeah, it's hard to know the truth.

All right.

Let's let's just quickly get on onto in the last two weeks.

Here are the issues that have come out that have been sort of

detrimental or a problem for Morrison.

So six in the parliament free prayer room, Concetta theraphy anti Wells,

basically, you know, he's on his side claiming that he's a ruthless bastard.

He doesn't deserve to be prime minister.

I don't know that she's on his side.

She's in his party.

Good boy.

Supposedly on his side comes out liberal Senator seasoned, complete

passage to share that it should never be prime minister and it was all dodgy.

How he got preselected in the first.

And, you know, but also cast aspersions on our own character.

Well, it's only because you've just got slotted that you're now saying there's

where were you before telling us it's now?

Because you know, so it's not credit to her that she's come out and said

it, but you know, she now joins new south Wales, liberal Catherine

Cusak, who also said similar things.

And in terms of his bullying and being a bastard there's Pauline Hanson,

Jackie Lambie, former liberal MP, Julia Banks, former new south Wales,

liberal premier, Gladys, Berejiklian all describing him as a bully.

Like a lot of people from his own side saying what I say to women.

Yes.

So he's got a woman problem.

Clearly we had the line, you know, ah, well, if you can't rent, then

just buy a house and that's what we're doing to improve your position.

And the interviewer said, well, we're talking about rent and he's saying,

yeah, well, I'm talking about housing and if we improve housing, then you

know, then we don't have a rent problem.

Well, of course just ignoring the problem that, of course people always be renters.

We've got administrative appeal, tribunal appointments, just being stacked.

This tribunal with former liberal politicians who will sit in judgment

now on Commonwealth decisions to do with migration and other

Commonwealth decisions, you know, jobs with 400,000 a year just

being given away to favored people.

We've got the whole new south Wales pre-selection debacle where the central

authority of Morrison and Hawker deciding who's going to be the candidates in a

bunch of new south Wales electorates, just ignoring the wishes of the local.

Branch members and parachuting in their own people.

And that's going to cause a big problem down the track for the liberal

party, because why would you stay a member of the liberal party unless

you were a Pentecostal nutbag because you sit there and you attend the

meetings and you try and get things done, and then they do this to you.

They're going to lose a lot of people from the party.

It's going to get even more crazy in the liberal party.

And just as the Republicans went, teabag, you know, tea party yeah,

it's, it's, it's a tea party overtaking of the local branch.

Sorry, go on.

I was going to say it wasn't that the whole liberal the labor government, once

they've made it once the, the head office has made up their mind, tough luck.

You're out of any say.

I'm learning the rules, we're going, oh, we're much more democratic than that.

Yes, possibly.

It was the vote in parliament.

Yeah.

But that was their claim to fame.

Was that, you know, they, they encourage this and even if it

was against the party line yeah.

They also claim they didn't have factions.

So yeah.

So we've got that issue.

Look, I'm not even a third of way through them.

We've got his own.

Pre-selection where there's talk about how he lied how he accused the other

candidate, Toke of being a Muslim.

And so now Michael Toke calls him a liar, joining tiny Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull,

Emmanuel Macron, and Barnaby Joyce.

Again, the people, the people calling him a liar, other than Emmanuel Macron

members of the liberal or national party.

These are the people who are supposed to be on the same side,

you know a lefty what's that?

I said Macron is not exactly a left either.

No, exactly.

Yeah.

So we've had Hillsong, haven't been there for 15 years.

Well, pictures of him at a Hillsong conference.

In fact, the same conference where the guy went into the hotel room with

the woman and did whatever he did.

Like it was the same conference that he's pictured at

was the antidepressants.

It wasn't a useful

thing or Hillsong, ah, hell some have been saying about Brian.

Yeah, because Morrison doesn't know anything about them.

Being there for 15 years, as I mentioned him in my maidens beats, and I tried

to kill America to the white house, but not to do with them, nothing to see

Jackie Lambie and the whole minivan deal.

Like, you know, remember she, she caved in about doctors being

able to stop people, being able to remove people from detention.

And she, her strange decision agreed with the government on

that one, and then unable to find out that there was a deal done.

And she was told she'd got to go to jail.

If she breached the agreement Ash body resigns from tennis, and he does a tweet

saying it was great to speak to her.

Blah, blah, blah.

He didn't even speak to it.

Just left a message on a voicemail.

It's minor, but it's just the crap on the sky.

You heard she'd won a tournament recently or she won $30 in a tournament.

Yeah.

Michael said DICOM.

Yeah.

Actually her parents are good golfers and could be awful.

Yeah.

It would not surprise if she became a golfer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There was a guy who was a professional tennis player male player.

He went and joined the golf pro tour.

It has been done before.

His name will come to me at some stage.

Let my subconscious work on that.

Marston refused to meet the Chinese ambassador cause he said

it would be a sign of weakness.

Like of all the problems we've got with China in our relationship meeting, the

investor would have been good idea.

And in what way would it have been weak?

Yeah.

It's Morrison wants to show that he's strong is a thing called the

Australian futures leaders program.

Did you hear about that?

It's got no staff or office.

I was thinking of an $18 million set aside by the federal government organized

by the prime minister's department.

And gone out to tender.

No, of course not.

What they're going to do is identify young leaders and run them

through an indoctrination program.

All about the seven mountains.

Yes.

Sounds very seven mountains ish.

But, but with 15, $18 million of our money being put towards a given to a company

that's just popped out of the ground.

There's no stuff.

Not from no due diligence, nothing with the S the foundation what was the story

with the STS foundation that was all money given to that crazy group who are

supposed to look after people are battling addiction, but they crack them, read

the Bible, praying away the drug addict, instead of praying away the gay yup.

More money given to them.

And we had Morrison forced to reveal any messages he's had with his and on

mate, a court decision, but he'll appeal and you'll be bounced out of office

before the appeals finished, but they probably won't have to reveal them.

And, and then the IBCC came out and said that regarding climate

change, we're supposed to be reducing emissions by 45% by 2030, but we're

on track to increase them by 14%.

It's the finding of the intergovernmental panel on climate change.

Like.

What a list of just craziness in a two week span.

Yeah.

I thought the IPC had said that Morrison government would lying

basically called them out as a liar.

Probably.

I didn't get a chance to read through the detail.

Yeah.

When does he not lying?

Doesn't like, it doesn't lie straight in bed.

What a list now it'll just be a pleasure to just not have this nonsense going

on all the time, this circus, but I'm fearful for the liberal party that while

they were in opposition for another three years the sort of people who have

created a party capable of all that and the last two weeks, and just going to

keep doing what they're doing with the assets happened in America, the Democrats

are trying to negotiate compromises.

With the party that are unwilling to compromise.

Yeah.

And so they may be an opposition, but unless labor, just get

ahead and start governing.

They'll get bogged down in crap.

Yep.

But there's also, you know, the effect and impact of having a bully

and then people speak up and then once the bully loses power, then you

know, people clean up their act too.

Can't me be optimistic, especially with a federal ICAC.

I mean, that'll clean it, it claim the whole place out if, and if he gets teeth,

because I think the labor politicians are just as invested in taking, taking

donations from large corporation.

Maybe now it'd be a good time to bring up those three impressive women that

are running as independence then.

Yeah, I mean, that was the gees media were very much, we need a hung parliament.

We want independence.

We want the greens having the balance of power because that is

when the horse training gets done.

That's when the real things happen, the liberal party has committed

to federal ICAC with teeth.

Yeah.

It'll be interesting to see what they actually propose.

Hmm.

Well, they've been out of power long enough that none of their own mob will get

caught by much older than I thought it'd be a good time to do it, but unfortunately

it really needs to be historical.

Yes.

And they'll, you know, there'll be enough for them to look at in the, over

the last nine years to keep them busy.

I would've thought so it would be a no brainer.

I mean, you kicked one off and, and by the time the next election

comes around you know, in about two, two years after kicking it off,

all sorts of stuff, would've come.

And why wouldn't you, why wouldn't you be a no-brainer?

I would've thought so.

Wasn't the proposed, the, the liberal proposed one was only going

to be for civil servants, but not for politicians and wasn't going

to be retrospective and there was a whole host of caveats around it.

Yeah.

So, so the question is then, you know, we're talking about the liberals sort

of following the Republican model.

And is there a difference between.

Australians and Americans in our nightmare, in our politics,

in our culture that maybe we won't follow this the same way.

Australians are a lot more cynical,

but not enough cynicism last election.

It didn't have to be too cynical to look at Scott Morrison and know he was a prick

and a bully in a fake I goodness sake.

I think you did look, Hey, ran a campaign on all Cape, everything the same.

We don't have to do anything.

And at that time for most people, most Australians things were pretty good.

Now you hear them every day on the ABC and it doesn't matter which

liberal fellow they were put out.

He says the same thing.

My focus is on the Australians.

Things are good.

Things are good.

Things are good.

And like things actually, I was going to ask you about your wedding.

All things good for people.

Certainly in my circles, things are not good for people.

Things are hard if a PayPal in this particular circle, people are okay.

Yeah.

Sorry, upper.

Middle-class not as quiet.

We need some change.

We've all had a bit of a reckoning.

Yeah.

And we got to get some of this stuff sorted out.

Okay.

So people aren't hurting enough to look around their head now.

Wasn't it, there, there was a lot about the whole second house,

but labor we're talking about removing the tax breaks of, I don't know, was it, when

was the last election or was it the Frank?

That was the franking credits.

Maybe that was it.

Yeah.

Which I know.

Handful of people.

Right.

But, but it was enough of a scare campaign.

Yep.

And realistically, the election before when labor did, when there was a Medicare

scare, kind of along the same lines at the last minute that scare people,

but scare people are devoting labor.

Yep.

So I want to talk about now I've been telling people, crikey has

been a good thing to do, actually subscribe to crikey, Joe, or you just

saw an article that was free online.

Did you notice what you'd sent me a link to one.

Yeah.

And I have the RSS feed and quite often it's only the first paragraph,

but sometimes it's the full article.

Yes.

So so in these dark days, do you listen to it when you're trying

to find out a different artist?

I think honest view of what's going on.

Crikey is great publication.

It's not inexpensive.

They had like $99 get you a year subscription or something like that.

Like in the scheme of things, not a lot of money.

So.

Have a look at crikey.

There was an article by guy Randall and he was referring to a speech

by Laughlin, the Murdoch son of Rupert, who was in his speech.

I'm going to quite bits of it here.

And then we can talk about the ideas.

So basically Laughlin was doing this whole freedom cry, and we've got to

maintain our freedoms and we can't let these elites talk us out of their freedoms

of what was part of his us common people, local local murder.

Yes, indeed.

So so anyway, this is guy Randall talking about Lockland Murdoch's

speech and he says, But the body of the work repeated the rights main

contention that Australians have a professed passion for freedom

currently suppressed by the elites.

Ha we don't, we're not like the U S at all.

According to Gullah Randall from the start, we were a collective society.

The frontier no sooner established than the state was occupying the space of it.

Most of colonial expansion into the Australian continent was a state based

project and white Australians rapidly developed a status subjectivity in

which national development was conceived in terms of what the state would do.

The constitution which Lochlan described as a fusion of UK and us

traditions is nothing of the sort, the U S constitution is a revolutionary

document, establishing a new order and calling forth a new type of person to

constitute a new society by their free.

The Australian constitution is an administrative document of electrical

procedures for an N Imperial dominion.

Then still subject to a UK final sign with the sole freedom guarantee, being

that a religion intended mainly to limit Catholic Anglican sectarianism to keep the

place going the state was expanded through the 20th century, the industrial system

made any sort of individual or collective bargaining impossible and specify the

nature of different professions and jobs to the last ITA entire wall clip.

And a wheat crop was brought up by the government.

The tariff and protection system was the most comprehensive in the world.

It could be used not only economically, but culturally, the import of

electric music instruments was banned to stop the spread of jazz.

The system was accompanied by the most comprehensive censorship system in

the Western world, in which the most anidine books with mall sexual content

were banned and home grind versions, subject to relentless persecution.

When when our sir Robert Menzies famously switched his vote from

liberal to DLP after his retirement, I didn't know he did that.

It was because of his success, his abandonment of heavy book and film

censorship at the state and municipal level, public owned utilities dominated

everyday life from city building to transport, many expanded into the private

market using state economies of scale.

This is interesting in Victoria.

The board of works had its own network of farms using treated Surrey as fertilizer.

The railways owned a customer crash, its own bookstore chain and

orchids or its fruit juice bar.

The Tremain is Ryan Parks, fund phase and bras pains, no one batted, an eyelid.

These were all government bodies running, all sorts of stuff.

Shop owning hours were rigid, limited and policed planning laws enforced a

zoning system, which expelled thousands of residents from the CBD after world war

two and made any sort of mixed use areas.

Pretty much impossible.

White Australians lived in a society has space, was defined by the state.

What is most striking about this regime?

Contrary to the news Corp IPA fantasy is how little opposition there was to it.

Censorship was the cause of a FIBA Amiens effectively the Sydney libertarian

push and the communist, no one, except a few academic economic eggheads

questioned the status economic approach.

Everyone understood what these big rules were.

To minimize inequality, you know why that might have meaningful life possible

for the widest number of people?

Let me just go on a bit here.

The idea of the good society is one of positive freedom, creating conditions to

flourish by applying the state to everyday life, not negative freedom of limiting

the state's impact on everyday existence.

U S intellectual roots are in the proton liberalism of the 18th century.

Ours are in the social liberal tradition of Bentham, Whitefield green, the Fabians.

Yeah, when this path was abandoned at the elite level in the 1980s, successive

governments created a dual culture.

This has resulted in a contradictory culture in which universal services

such as Medicare have wide support, but Australians are wary of grand

schemes, big themes, and anything that.

Even possibly damage the cumulative life path.

Hence labor's strategic weariness about the big picture stuff, even

though that's exactly what we need.

Hence the apparent permanent stuckness of negative gearing.

So anyway, there's a bit more there and article I was picking cherry

picking out of, but essentially we started as a collectivist

statused state sort of based group.

We didn't start as the individualized idea that Americans did in the 1980s.

That changed a bit, but there's still perhaps enough residual cultural

hangover from those early days.

Maybe that's sort of what I've been arguing the last six

years is we have this choice.

Do we want to be the American style of rampant capitalism unrestricted?

Or do we want to go for something more Scandinavian based.

That's in a nutshell, the big issue, economy, religion, and social issues.

The, the Robert Reich argument has always been, there's no such thing as small

government government is government.

The question is who is the government ruling for?

Is it ruling for the people or is it ruling for the corporations?

Yeah, that's true.

But I guess if you just look at schooling, for example, we have created

this whole private school system, so that has been an erosion of government.

You also have, you know, okay.

We need a military of some sort, but do we really need a huge military or do we just

need enough to be off a few Indonesians?

Like.

I don't know so much about that argument, I think is about size as well

as direction and the vested interest.

I think it is more than just but it was more the, all the government red tape.

Well, either the government red tape is there to protect the money to

interests and enforcing bankruptcy laws and protecting the assets of large

corporations so that they can see you when you default on your loan or is

it there to reign in the power of the corporations and, and hold them to account

for pollution and the things that they do where they're passing on the costs

of what they do to the average citizen.

Okay.

I'm prepared to say it's both it's who are they acting for?

And also how big inhale a road and things are.

I mean, you know, with.

Medicare and in a public hospital system here that they don't have in

America, you know, so absolutely.

Yeah.

Yep.

And the other one was an Americans conservatives view of a small government

is a government so small that it can fit through your bedroom keyhole.

Yes, that's right.

Yeah.

So, I mean, they're in a position over there where the, a fairly

extreme left-wing view would still be to the right of a lot of

other Western liberal democracies.

Yeah.

So anyway, could article by, by Rundle and yeah, in the chat, if you guys

it's too hard to me to keep track of the chat, but if you've seen any

cruda I'll actually, Camille says I subscribed to crikey after Trevor hyped.

It pretty happy so far.

That's good.

Yep.

And Roman says, at least we still have the trend-wise Bain.

I guess.

I my daughter went off to a youth group a weekend away.

I found probably the island, you know and I looked up where they

were staying and it's a holiday camp that's owned by the tramways.

It was for disadvantaged children to have a, a beach holiday.

And it was set up by the Brisbane tramways corporation, the tram drivers,

which then became the bus drivers.

It's still something along those lines, right?

Yep.

Yep.

So yeah, there are some odd holiday spots around.

I was on coochie mid-level island and then.

Queensland police thing there that was quite obscure as well.

Yeah.

I wasn't sure if it was union owned or police own, but yeah, there are

some odd holiday places around.

Okay.

Let's dive around to other things.

Got any comments on the slap at all at the academy awards.

Do we need to spend any time on, on, on the Scientologists, on

one lane stopping another man?

Yeah, I think Russell brand actually nailed it.

And Hayes, I thought fallen off the of, so what's the expression about going a

bit nuts, but anyway, Russell brand has been a bit odd lately, but I think he

did nail this in his summation, which is just, it just really highlights

the whole absurdity of the Sarah.

Roland.

Yep.

Like in a world as chaotic as this, that we have this weird awards ceremony where

we just celebrate like rich and great.

And yeah.

And it's just, it's actually just humans like everywhere else.

So yeah, this is a fascination.

People have a fascination with actors.

I think human beings find it really difficult to look at like a Russell Crowe

and just not get he's just an actor.

He wasn't really the gladiator fighting those people.

He wasn't the smart method.

In addition, working out that shit on the Blackboard, he was just the actor.

He doesn't have those qualities.

And I think people will just get so conned by the whole thing that they

project onto these individuals, the roles that they used to play and just

ordinary Joes, like anybody else, but.

At the super pounds.

Yes.

The worst part about it all was Scott Morrison saying, oh yeah,

I can understand why he hit him.

You know, if my wife was insulted, you know, I can understand

it such a toss of that guy.

I I'm, yeah.

I'm your average Aussie bloke and the F my Mrs.

Was insulted.

I'd be thinking the same thing as well, too.

You know, I was actually having a conversation with her Kevin manager

and he was saying to me that his wife was a vegetarian back when

people really gave them stick.

So it'd be at a dinner party or whatever, and he would, he would rise to defender

not to that degree, but she just pulled him aside one day and said still, yep.

Oh, well, the thinking.

It's quite insulting.

If anyone insulted that woman at the ceremony, it was him thinking he had to

go up and slap a guy to defend her honor.

Yeah.

So notice he was laughing until he saw her.

Yes.

Yes.

There's a whole heap of hypocritical type of stuff there.

Couple of tweets from Emma, it was apparently a main slapping

is fine, but a woman not smiling.

Isn't sorry.

Who is that woman?

She's amazing.

She's Twitter.

Yeah.

Jeez, prolific.

She must be tired all day unhealthy way.

Perhaps I worry about it that way.

I, it does seem to be a bit of a obsession for some people.

Yeah.

And another one here by this guy who said this was FKA was will

Smith saying he wants to be a vessel for love 15 minutes after hitting

a guy live on international TV.

And then getting a standing ovation is just an incredible summation

of what Hollywood's all about.

It's trying to a vessel for love.

So I've got the clip.

There's no point playing it.

You've all seen it.

Let's move on.

Just speaking of Twitter, Michael West started following me.

Did he?

Oh yeah.

So now I'm like, oh my God, I never tweet.

I'll have to, I have to start thinking of stuff to tweet.

And that's where I got the idea to do little clips of our videos.

He sees them and then he might come on and debate you or something.

That'd be good.

Wouldn't that be good?

So anyway, I'll have to think of some tweets instead of just free tweeting.

He's very Pally Pally with friendly Jordy's and how amazing is

friendly daughters with this latest courageous exposé about the sex

in the prayer, in the prayer room.

But consenting adults who cares best use of a prayer reminder.

Yup.

Yup.

Except when you've claimed to be so family oriented, but you actually screwing

around with somebody who's not your professed lighthouse partner, perhaps.

You know, say if you didn't, if you weren't going to be claiming all these

moral family values, that would be fine.

But when you do the hypocrisy, you should be exposed and, you know really shuffling

people in and out of parliament house without signing them in appropriately.

Is that what we want happening?

So, you know, who cares?

He's living with her, but yeah.

Joe, you had some topics, one of which was in America vaccine

case consent case for parents.

So I've thrown this to you when you haven't been able to probably look

it up, but you want to talk about it.

Do you want me to just launch into it?

Yeah, I remember reading it and thinking it was interesting, but

I forgot what the outcome was.

It was a federal judge, barred, the district of Columbia from enforcing a

law that allowed minors to be vaccinated without their parents' knowledge.

Of course, often to fade with their religious freedom.

That was correct.

Yes.

So it was a law which allowed children as young as 11 to get the vaccine

without their parents' knowledge.

If a doctor determined that they are capable of informed consent

and the religious nutters over the word, having any of it.

So that's under appeal.

You also had a link to an interesting book by a lady.

His last name is green, I think.

And she is Canadian and helps people with voluntary assisted dying.

And she's written a book about her experience and I think it

would be an interesting book.

So she was overwhelmed by the incredible experiences she was having the work

itself and the intimate relationships.

And that was she, she was thrown into the interactions between people in

their families were extraordinary.

I think that would be an interesting book.

Yeah, people's experiences there.

The interesting part as well was she's actually a maternity doctor.

So she was, she was helping, she said she, she was used to dealing with those

conversations because obviously maternity is a very high risk, high mortality time.

And she was used to having those conversations around

life and death decisions.

And, you know if you've ever written in and if Terry Pratchett and the

witches and the witches were there at the beginning of life and at the end of

their life, they were the midwives of the village and they were there helping

people ease their way out of this world.

This is, this woman does both too.

Yeah, exactly.

And she referred to assisted deaths as deliveries.

Yes.

She said hoping to end people's suffering had been the most

rewarding experience of her career.

Although initially that was a sentiment.

She felt she had to keep to herself.

Yeah.

Anyway, I'll put a link in the show notes for that book.

If you're interested, could be good.

Read another article saying that we've got to get Gonski back on track.

The Gonski report of course, looked at the funding of education, said we need

to fund schools based on their needs.

A higher socioeconomic groups lead need less money, the lower socioeconomic

groups when it comes to educating that the Gonski formulas have

just being completely bastardized and ruined by various governments

agreement that nobody will lose money.

So these overpayments of private schools continued, even though

they shouldn't have, because are basically frayed of losing votes.

And and that really Gonski has never been properly implemented

and that we should do it.

And we've got to get back on track.

And it finishes at the end.

We need to start a national dialogue on increasing equity in school resourcing.

If elected labor should call the national education summit in

2022 to get Gonski back on track.

And this is the problem with our whole school system in Australia

is people here think it is normal and it's completely abnormal.

So there's just so much talking and explaining that has to be done to try

and shift the Overton window into a more normal, into more normal parameters.

So it probably is a case labor couldn't do anything until it does

a lot of talking and explaining to people so that helped them understand.

I've tried to explain them people, you just get special pleading.

When I say, if I don't catch the bus, does the government refund

me the equivalent bus fares?

So the bus rebates to pay for my private car because effectively that's what

they're doing for private schools.

Yep.

And there's a lot of loyalty to private schools with people and the.

You know, part of the propaganda and indoctrination of a private

school singing the school song and isn't this the greatest school.

And when you're finished, you're going to come back as an old boy and have

dinners or an old girl and have dinners and, and, you know, there's a lot of

indoctrination there to get through.

So yeah.

Another one you sent Joe was Adani mine.

And I remember we spoke about this when the Adani mine was being considered

and people said, it's going to create all these jobs and basically Adani

his own experts said, actually, there's not gonna be that many jobs.

So so it appears the Adani mine in central Queensland could be employing

as few as 300 production staff.

Meanwhile, the Queensland government is subsidizing the project through

a long-term royalties deal.

Now.

They don't have to pay the normal rate of royalties.

They pay a reduced rate of royalties.

Queensland is missing out on more than $93 million in royalties every

year for the length of the agreement.

And if we're only getting 300 jobs, 40 on $93 million, then we're

subsidizing every job at the mine by more than $300,000 per job per year.

And that was always going to happen.

They're very beginning plus the carbon impact.

Yep, indeed.

So, so when did you say no, say no because, because it's a political

hand grenade and in ability to sell, because they're not good sellers and.

And also the Murdoch press will crucify them.

Even if they are good sellers, I will absolutely crucify them.

I, I get it.

Yeah, these are the petals.

Yeah.

Our inability to say, alright, fossil fuel is dead.

This is our plan for regional Australia.

This is what we're going to retrain.

These people, you know, $300,000 a person is a hell of a lot of training in a new

industry, whatever the new industry is.

But you know, people don't understand, people wouldn't be aware of

those figures would have no idea.

Doesn't come out.

The true cost of fossil fuel subsidies.

So in the budget, the federal government provides the most

assistance to the fossil fuel sector, costing 10 and a half billion.

In the M 2122 financial year this is in fuel subsidies, the main

line being the fuel tax credits.

So fuel tax credit that provides a credit for fuel tax, such as

the excise or customs duty that is included in the price of fuel.

And this is fulfill used in business activities, such as machinery, plant

equipment, heavy vehicles, light vehicles.

So if you use fuel in plant and equipment and machinery, then you

can climb a fuel tax credit, which gives you back the excise and customs

duty, for example, which adds up to 10 and a half billion dollars per year.

The amount that the government pays public schools is $9.7 billion.

We're giving more in fuel tax subsidies.

I heard this story.

I think I'm allowed to tell this.

I know a guy who was in a car dealership and this, I think it was an employee

or it might've been some other person approached the car dealership and said,

I can save you X, thousands of dollars.

Maybe it was 200, $300,000 per year.

But you have to agree to pay me a, like a finder's fee or

what I'm about to tell you.

And he got them to sign an agreement before they did it.

And I think it was that the dealerships could climb this fuel tax credit if

they sold vehicles to farmers and, and businesses But the dealers who had filled

up the tank would then Klein the fuel tech credit and it was worth an enormous

amount of money to the dealership.

And this guy struck a deal like that.

So anyway, I think that's how it went anyway, Joe, thanks

for all these happy stories.

You're giving us about cost of fuel.

I'm just thinking 10, 10, and a half billion.

How much would that go towards alternative energy sources, funding, alternative

energy sources for these devices?

Yeah.

If you said this has got to be an electric vehicle.

Yep.

Yep.

Hey, here's some money to turn it from a, a diesel powered vehicle

into a, an electric vehicle.

I know the numbers are huge.

What you could do with this money, what you could do with it.

Yeah.

At the conference on Saturday, one of the electricians I've got up

to present was talking about the exploitation of PayPal on solving.

My back.

And if people knew, so for instance, like I get hired for six weeks work

and then they get maybe two weeks.

So they get rushed to do just hour after hour after the hour do extended

overtime or whatever, not get paid for it.

Jobs done in two weeks.

And I say, thanks very much.

See ya really?

Because it's a new industry.

It's not heavily unionized.

It's not really worked out.

And it's easy to exploit workers, which if, you know, some of the people in

the audience were saying like, knowing that it does actually make it hard

to support the renewable industry.

So that's another thing that unions could potentially address is start

getting membership around there and then being part of the transition,

not just to government either.

So yeah, just interesting.

Yeah.

So that's something that some of the new challenges coming with it and they'd be

out on side, just living in doners for the weeks while they're cranking it out.

Yeah.

Wow.

Ah, and just briefly, the Murdoch family has borrowed a a hundred million

dollars from the Chinese government.

The same time that their Murdoch papers, wage war against

the Chinese communist party.

I reckon the Chinese were happy to lend it to them, hoping that at some stage

the murderers get desperate and, and they'll be able to squeeze them saying

I'm not so happy with your articles.

You might want to start writing some pro China stuff.

That'd be funny.

And the Anglican church is using tens of millions of dollars.

It receives from taxpayers for aged care services instead to cover

the church's historic child abuse.

Child sexual abuse claims.

So they, they only money for child sexual abuse and they're getting money from

their their arm that Anglicare Sydney, which is an aged care operator in they're

using that money to pay their other fees.

And this is the Sydney Anglican church who donated $10 million to the no campaign.

Yes.

Is making, making money.

So it's not like they don't have any money.

It's just, they want to use it to be mean to gay people.

Mm Hmm.

Okay.

We've headed down another depressing pathway here.

A bit of rattle through these topics are going to be up to date, deal listener for

any for any dinner parties that you're at.

Solomon Islands hear about how they.

Basically struck a deal with the Chinese over some stuff.

Yeah, the the missile base, that's going to be fine to, to Australia.

Yeah.

Well, they've done a treaty with China over something, and of course, Australia

and New Zealand are up in arms about it.

And I saw a speech in the parliament by the prime minister, so Guevara

and he's really, really good.

Like he speaks really well and saying we are silver nation week in Mike deals.

We're not going to make stupid deals.

No, one's pressured us into this.

We're not gonna do anything crazy.

But, you know, we asked Australia for help.

They said they couldn't do it.

And they had deals with Papa new Guinea.

So we're looking around, we've got to explore our options and you

guys tell us, try and tell us what we're to do, and that we're too

stupid to work it out for ourselves.

Like it was, it wasn't as Frank as that, it wasn't easy is better, more

polite language in there, but it was really compelling, thoughtful.

I've really good speech, better than anything you've heard in the Australian

parliament in the last nine years from the liberal national party side, at

least it was a damn fine coherent normal speech by the prime minister say Guevara.

So please pay really well good on him.

I thought seven mountains on the gold coast.

So gold case mayor Tom.

We're still around to what seemed like a very damning, full coroner's report.

I watched some years ago.

Yeah, they are property developers.

That's the best, but anyway, you know, all allegedly by them and you

know, he's still there good on him.

Right.

But he's new spiritual advisor.

Isn't adherent of the Christian fundamentalists, seven mountains mandate,

which seeks to achieve Christian control of major institutions of society.

So this was a bit of a scoop for the rationalist society.

So I Gladman came across this video where the spiritual advisor talked about

how she'd sat down with Tom and had described him the seven mountains mandate.

And he said, I'm all in.

We've got to do this and how are we going to do it?

And and she was boasting about that and that's had a bit of

coverage in different newspapers.

So.

It's a thing.

The seven mountains mandate is a thing it's about seeding people into the media,

education, politics, et cetera, getting them to the top and the influence sprints.

So oh, Julia makes a good comment.

Tom Tate who invited the media to his water baptism, but when asked if he

subscribes to the seven mountains, mandate suddenly said his faith was personal,

but I hadn't heard that Julia, but why does that not surprise me typical?

What else we got here?

I got that one, Chris Sanchez.

Now I might do that another time.

Oh, look, we're nearly out of gas before I go into, I could launch

into a whole year crying thing, but I think we're so close to nine o'clock.

I should stop that because we got a lot there.

Che, anything else you want to get off your chest that we've had

enough of a gripe about the world?

So I guess there's to try and stay away from some of the despair.

I guess I could recommend some uplifting books that I've been

reading, really getting a lot out of lay sales, his book really?

It's it's called the called any ordinary day or no ordinary day.

And it's this beautiful novel to sort of like walking through a

whole range of interesting stories, like going back over Stuart diver.

I don't know if you remember him, the survivor of that landslide and

yeah, it was just a really beautiful uplifting book and then Julia bed

listening to her book phosphorescence, which is really uplifting.

And then the book loves stories by Trent D'Alton so really, really good.

So he just sat at a desk in the middle of Brisbane city with a sign

that said, tell me a love story.

And it's just, it's so beautiful.

Yep.

Yeah.

He hits my novel.

What's his main novel that he wrote Trent Dalton.

Can you remember what cool guys or something like that?

He wrote one about his childhood and yeah, he grew up in a sort of.

Childhood sort of at Amala and yeah.

And the Brisbane boy.

Yeah, always a Brisbane, Brisbane.

He was his family always aspired to live at the gap.

The gap was seen as this fantastic place.

Boys follows universe.

Roman says, did you read it?

But yeah, it has lots of Brisbane stuff in it.

If you like Trent Dalton.

Yeah.

Anyway, I give those maybe not five stars, but certainly a nice distraction.

Very easy reading.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think yeah, that's good.

What's good to finish on a positive note.

Or I do listener well, that was a good episode.

We've covered a fair bit of territory there in the chat room.

Well done.

I could see different comments and thank you for that.

I will be back next week with something I'm not exactly sure what and my boss

from Melbourne is up on the Monday.

I'll be running around and all sorts of stuff.

Don't might be anyway.

We'll see what it'll be, but I'd be this not going to hash

through Morrison's nonsense again.

Next week.

It'll be something a bit different.

So we'll see what we do.

Alright.

Until then.

So it's buy from me.

I'll talk to you next week.