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Extraordinary Results Require Extraordinary Effort: Rethinking “Work–Life Balance”
Episode 211st October 2025 • The Daily Podcast with Jonathan Doyle • Jonathan Doyle
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Is “work–life balance” a myth? Drawing on Matt Higgins’ Burn the Boats and real-world routines (3:30–4:00 a.m. starts, daily content production), Jonathan argues that high performers seesaw between periods of extreme effort and intentional recovery—and that’s normal. You’ll learn a simple audit to decide where to push, where to rest, and how to design your weeks for outcomes, not wishes.

You’ll learn:

  • Why “balance” ≠ 50/50; think seasons & sprints
  • The Effort–Outcome Equation for business, fitness, and family
  • A 20-minute weekly Capacity Planner to schedule deep work and recovery
  • How to prevent burnout while still doing what most people won’t

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hello there, my friend Jonathan Doyle with you.

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Welcome to the Daily Podcast.

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I do hope you're doing okay.

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We've all got our challenges, right?

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There's there'll be some of you listening when life right now feels like a broad

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sunlit path of magnificent potential.

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And there's some of you listening going, Jonathan please

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just get me through this day.

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I got you all I've got something for everybody today I wanna share with you

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a really great quote from a book that I'm reading called Burn the Boats.

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And it's a book written by a guy called Matt Higgins.

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His story is that he grew up in great poverty, left school at

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15 and just went on to really build the most remarkable career.

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And I heard him speaking recently and I've just been powering through his book.

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And there's a particular line that jumped out at me, a little paragraph

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actually, and I wanna share it with you and see what you think.

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He's talking about this idea of work life balance, which I think is a unicorn.

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I've got a friend in business who is a few years ahead of me.

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Has a phenomenal capacity for work.

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And I remember 15, 20 years ago, he just straight up said, look,

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work life balance is a myth.

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And sometimes, when we send out an email broadcast, I get autoresponders that

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people like, our business is closed.

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We only respond to emails between these times.

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And I get it's the response to being, pinged at sort of 2:00 AM by somebody

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expecting an immediate response.

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Look, work-life balance is definitely a topic that people are

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interested in, but does it exist?

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Is it a unicorn?

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How hard should we work?

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What's normal?

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I guess we've gotta see our moment in history, right?

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So I was saying to someone the other day that until the early 20th century,

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most people pretty much went to sleep around sunset or shortly after,

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because for example, we we didn't have.

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Electric lights, right?

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So people were still lighting by gaslight and before that, candles, if they had

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'em, and they were expensive at times.

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So pretty much when the sun went down, you might be sitting in a single

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room with a candle or two and your circadian rhythm just tended to.

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You'd go to sleep early and you wake up early.

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And that's changed, as that's changed.

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Shout out to all those people scrolling Instagram in their

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bed before they fall asleep.

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And so this work life balance thing, we're always on.

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What's possible?

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Let's talk about it.

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So he says this direct quote, I think the search for an ideal

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work life balance is a lie.

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Successful people will always seesaw between times of extreme effort

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interspersed with periods of recovery.

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Extraordinary things can only be achieved through extraordinary effort.

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One more time.

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I think the search for an ideal work-life balance is a lie.

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Successful people will always seesaw between times of extreme effort

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interspersed with periods of recovery.

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Extraordinary things can only be achieved through extraordinary effort.

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Alright, let's just rip into this quickly.

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I'm sure you have some thoughts about that.

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I think he's right.

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I think he's right, at least on the idea of extreme.

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Things can only be achieved through extraordinary effort.

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I think he's right there.

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How do I say this?

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The majority of people are going to go through life, and this is not a value

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judgment on people, but they're gonna go through life, I guess operationalizing

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or actualizing a relatively limited.

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I guess percentage of what they could achieve in life.

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For complex reasons.

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Some people just don't really want to do more.

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They're comfortable, or there's all sorts of reasons why people might do that.

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It's not a judgment, but we do wanna focus on the fact that if

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you want different, significant results in your life, it's probably

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gonna require extraordinary effort.

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My experience of life has led me to believe that unusual results.

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I tend to come from people who are extremely driven and work extremely hard.

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For many years I was really convicted of the talent thing.

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I was, we all have these unique talents and some of us can use them in ways

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that are, can be quite lucrative.

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But the longer that I've lived and observed people and business and life,

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I just think that the work component seems to be something significant.

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And it's often, this idea that if we push ourselves too hard, we'll break.

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I get that too.

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But my observation also seems to be that people who work a lot

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and hard and consistently often tend to live pretty long lives.

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There's always plenty of exceptions, but they don't tend to just

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suddenly, disappear in their fifties.

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They tend to push on and keep contributing and keep doing stuff and have these

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big, expansive, interesting lives.

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I guess I wanna put a few thoughts in your head.

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I'm not, I'm no one's judge.

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I've said that a couple times here.

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I what the future holds for you, but I do know just seems of comos.

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Unusual results require unusual efforts that we have to push ourselves at

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times and work extremely hard when we don't often feel like it, if we want

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to get unusual results, and that may require extreme amounts of effort.

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So recently I've been getting up and being in the studio around about 3:34 AM and.

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I do two podcasts a day across different areas.

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One in education and this one in business and personal development.

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And it's a lot of work, like doing the content, getting it all, getting

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it produced properly, getting it syndicated, all that sort of stuff.

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And it's every day it's like we're back to it.

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We're back to the mill, we're back to the grind, we're back to

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the factory producing content.

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Every single day.

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I ain't sleeping until eight o'clock.

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It's it's on, and I was watching a documentary the other day of

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the Kansas City Chiefs and their head coach, same kind of thing.

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He heads into the office about three 30 in the morning for the same

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reasons that I head into the studio.

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He says, you can get a lot of work done.

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It's quiet, there's no interruptions, like all the rest of the planet's being

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normal, and you're out there doing stuff that other people aren't doing.

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Summary, my friend, wherever you are in your life right now, if you

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want more, you will need to do more.

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You will need to work harder.

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You will need to produce more.

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You will need to be more disciplined.

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These are iron laws of the universe.

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We didn't get to write them, but we have a choice of whether or not

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we wanna conform ourselves to them.

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So just be, what's the word, cautious.

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Suspicious of the idea that you're supposed to find some perfect

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work life balance and that life's supposed to be restful and easy.

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'cause I just don't think it is this side of heaven.

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We are not living in a perfected reality as such.

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We have to do things to bend experience to some degree, to the way that we

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want it to be, and that requires work.

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So get after it.

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Just accept that this is how it is.

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I'm only sharing this with you because it's taken me many years to

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work it out, and I think it's true.

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Alright, that's it for me today.

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Please make sure you've subscribed, hit that subscribe button.

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And you can find me on the website, Jonathan Doyle dot Cov, if you wanna

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book me for speaking and other things.

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I'm on Instagram.

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You can find me there on YouTube at Jonathan Doyle speaks.

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And please subscribe, please share this with people.

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Let me give you some homework.

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Just take some time today, maybe get a journal and just

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ask yourself the question.

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Am I pursuing my potential?

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Am I working hard enough?

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Could I do more?

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What do I want that I'm not currently experiencing?

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And what would I have to do differently to achieve it?

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God bless you my friend.

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This has been the Dali Podcast.

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My name's Jonathan Doyle, and you and I are gonna talk again tomorrow.

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