This podcast episode dives deep into the complexities of street life, societal dynamics, and the implications of fame, particularly in the context of the hip-hop culture. The conversation highlights the stark differences between the realities of street life and the perceptions held by outsiders, emphasizing that true understanding requires firsthand experience. A significant focus is placed on the harsh realities of violence and survival in cities like Chicago, where personal safety is a constant concern and the stakes are often life or death. The speakers explore the influence of fame on individual behavior, particularly how artists navigate their identities and the expectations placed upon them. Through personal anecdotes and critical analysis, the episode sheds light on the broader implications of these experiences, encouraging listeners to reflect on the intersections of culture, identity, and survival in today’s world.

Chapters:

• 00:00 - Understanding Street Culture
• 00:38 - The Rise of Political Tensions
• 18:03 - The Roots of Violence in Chicago
• 24:38 - The Impact of Drill Music on Chicago
• 44:33 - The Dynamics of Respect and Reputation in Street Culture
• 53:11 - Navigating the Underbelly of Society
• 01:06:01 - Understanding Security Protocols
• 01:16:42 - The Reality of Interrogations and the Consequences of Snitching
• 01:23:40 - Uncovering Government Secrets and UFOs
• 01:36:36 - Unveiling the Evidence of Non-Human Intelligences

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Real life today.

Real life.

Just say real.

Real life.

Street stars know what time it is.

Real life.

Street stars back again.

Big homie.

Cece.

What it is, brother?

What's the word, brother?

Good to see you again, man.

Man.

Say, bro.

Man, it seemed like no time, man.

Right away, right away, shout out.

Real life.

They don't play no games, man.

Immediately, I need you to rank the women around the world.

Who got the finest women around the world.

You just went to DG's.

You got to see some Texas flavor.

Who got it, man, top five.

Now, me and Fast was talking about this yesterday.

Cause I was having a fantastic time.

I do have a list.

Number one is Portland, Oregon.

Portland, Oregon.

Man, that's a sleeper.

Yes, bro.

Yes.

Okay.

Number two is Dallas, Texas.

Top five.

Top five.

Yeah.

Number three is gonna be Cleveland, Ohio.

Damn, you got some sleepers in here.

Number four is Nairobi, Kenya.

Number five in Chicago.

There you go.

Chicago.

Now, me and you was.

We was talking about Vegas strip clubs, and he was like, man, you were like, what isn't desirable?

What do you look for in a desirable strip club versus an undesirable?

What are the things you like and don't like?

Okay, so in Vegas, like, all of the ladies got the same body.

For sure.

All of them.

You feel me?

So that's.

I get kind of lame.

Yeah.

And then bottle prices, for sure.

So, like, you know, 250 is really, like, my max on liquor when it comes to a bottle.

And in Dallas, they show love on that.

You feel me?

So that's cool.

And in Portland, they do, too.

So, man, Vegas, they gonna charge you 800 for a fifth of fake Hennessy.

You feel me?

Like, I gotta ask you about.

You said Portland, Oregon.

It ain't a lot of that.

Don't sound like a destination vacation spot.

What is it about Portland, Oregon that you just peep?

So in Portland, Oregon, it's not segregated at all.

Like, all races of people kick it together at the same time in Phoenix.

That's how Phoenix was.

And, like, man, you will say hi to a lady and she'll come kick it with you, and she'll be a super.

She'll be a model.

Like, won't even say nothing about it.

Like, kick it with you to five in the morning.

Like, it's nothing.

Like.

Oh, so they just ain't.

They ain't stuck up?

No.

All races are ladies, though.

That's crazy, man.

They love Asian.

Yes, for sure.

What?

For sure?

Shout out Sandy.

Shout out Sandy.

All right, so we was talking.

Let's Kick it off with this man.

We were just talking about this Trump, this election in general.

Yes, sir.

And you were saying, if Trump loses, it's gonna be hell to pay in the streets.

Right?

Why do you say that?

So in order to prepare for the future, you gotta always study history.

So, you know, January 6th, they stormed the Capitol building.

People got killed.

Facts, we never seen that in this country since the Civil War era.

They had to remove portions of our military because they said groups of men that became radicalized for the Trump campaign.

So, you know, when you look in that Bible Belt area, that's where most of our soldiers come from.

That's really patriots.

And for the first time ever, we're really watching our government antagonize and target the white male populace.

And that's spooky to me because that group of people prolific at pillaging and plundering and taking over things, they can organize themselves better than any other race.

So that's why they be in a position to be the dominant species, dominant race of humans.

So, you know when you see those type of things taking place.

That was an event that took place in Colorado.

A right wing militia group took over a government building and held the building for an extended period of time.

Military had to go in and kill some of them and get that building back.

People don't know about this, but you can google this.

So when you start seeing.

It's of my belief that if he loses this campaign, there's gonna be violent actions getting taken.

13,000 convicted murderers crossed the border illegally this year, and they're under undetained status.

Over 600 people on the terrorist watch list cross the border illegally.

They're under undetained status.

The Democrats flew in 300,000 Haitians to this country, and they send all of the immigrants to swing states.

So if they passed a bill that makes them legal, now all of the red states turn blue.

Elon Musk has given Donald Trump $45 million a month for his campaign because of things like this taking place.

So.

So let me ask you this.

What, what do you think is the percentage that he actually might win it?

90%.

It's 90% chance right now.

Damn.

Damn.

Even with Kamala, like invoking all the black power, that all the black policies for some black.

For the black men.

I don't know if you see, unfortunately for Kamala, Kamala has a white husband.

That's true.

She does have a way.

So do you think that's the thing that's really doing damage to her campaign?

For sure.

And then you gotta look at it like a lot of people are saying they don't want a woman as president.

Even black women are saying this, right?

So you gotta look at those type of things.

You feel me?

And you know, she's a person.

I feel like personally is black.

When it's convenient.

She said out her mouth she's not gonna pass policies just for black people, but they pass policies just for Asian people, right?

So.

All right, let me ask you this though.

So let's just, let's just play it out.

All right, let's play it out.

Kamala.

Kamala.

How do you say it?

Kamala.

Kamala Harris.

I know that, I know.

That's why I want to say it.

No disrespect.

She wins the election, okay?

Project the next four years on both of them, on both sides.

If she wins the election in the first six months, we're going to see domestic terrorist acts happen.

Over 40,000 war age males, Chinese nationals, have also crossed the border.

So when you see ships crashing into bridges, when you see Verizon wireless going down, when you see government websites getting hacked, those are the Chinese hackers.

That's what they do.

That's what they're doing.

So like, eventually we will see people exploding in the grocery store because those are tactics that terrorists use and is documented on government sites that they're here operating.

So let's do the reverse.

Trump wins.

Is it just business as usual?

So if Trump wins, his first thing is going to be, his first goal is going to be to make sure he can stay in power as long as possible and he can have more power as a president.

Right.

So he wants to become a king.

He wants to be a dictator.

He's jealous of Vladimir Putin in his power for sure.

So if he becomes president, we're going to see an influx of business opportunities, loans going out, banks are going to open up.

We're going to be able.

We're going to see different things and we're also going to see the people of European descent being a lot more cocky for sure.

Do you think, okay, do you think.

You know Trump, right.

Why are black men so drawn towards him?

Right.

That's the thing that I.

Especially the street niggas, right?

It just seems like you got a black woman up there.

I mean, say what you will, but she's still a black woman.

It doesn't feel like when Obama ran, right?

When Obama ran, it was like, oh, we gotta.

And he's half white.

But we still seen it like, hey, that's a brother we finna get our first black president.

Now we might get the first black woman president and not know.

It doesn't seem like the black people are rooting this on.

It seems like they're going the complete opposite.

It's just throwing me off.

Okay, so here's the thing with Kamala.

Let me ask you a question.

Do you think it's suspicious that Kamala and Obama have the same skin tone?

You think it's a coincidence?

No, I think they definitely.

I think it's a ploy to ease it in.

Right.

They ain't just finna put no super dark skinned nigga in the president.

It's not gonna happen.

All right, so I'm gonna ask you another question.

Yep.

What DA imprisoned the most black men in California history?

Yeah.

I think it was Kamala.

Right?

Right.

Yeah.

Kamala also passed a bill for transgender people, even in prison and children to get sex change surgery.

Right.

But what I'm saying is.

Okay, I hear what you're saying.

Right.

But what I'm saying is most street niggas don't know that.

But what president was listed in the most rap songs?

There you go.

So that's just what it is.

And then niggas just fall for the.

Banana in the tailpipe.

No, it's not even really that.

You feel me?

Cause you gotta really think about it.

A lot of black men have conservative views on things.

Donald Trump has conservative views on things.

Does he?

For sure.

Give me something, because we're talking about the man that stole government.

Government secrets.

Right.

Or the government.

Allegedly.

Allegedly.

No, he got convicted, I think.

Right.

He also got immunity.

Oh, yeah.

He also feed free Kodak.

The man let Kodak black out of jail.

That's what did it for.

He let Lil Wayne out of jail.

That's what really did it.

And then you gotta think about it, bro.

You know, he carried himself like a dope boy, like a gangster.

Yeah.

So.

So why is that attractive to come on, bro?

But here's the thing.

And you know, besides the, I believe the Gina 6.

Was it the Gina 6?

Yeah.

Central Park 5.

The Central Park 5.

Trump has had a notorious record for fucking with niggas.

Like, yeah, for sure.

But he'll be with a black woman on the red carpet and he be with the rappers.

But do we.

But do we also dismiss some of the wild shit he says and does towards black people also?

Like, I mean.

I mean, like, so I liken it to this, right?

I fuck with you niggas, but not all of you niggas.

I.

Bro.

And that's most white people you meet, right?

Yes, I fuck with some of you niggas, but not all of y'all white.

People like black people.

They don't like niggas.

Yeah, yeah, but niggas don't like niggas.

So I've met Donald Trump, right.

Okay.

I've kicked it with him.

So.

So how is he in person?

Just like us right up.

So that's.

So that's just what it is.

Yeah.

Well, he'll kick it and chill with you, talk shit with you, have a drink with you, talk his shit.

Us as black men, we all go through it.

Just like most of us dabbled in being rappers.

That's just shit talking.

That's just literally talking shit on the track.

He does it well.

Now.

When you.

What is the difference between.

Do you feel like the difference between the American white man and, like, the Russian white man?

You know, the Russians can be cavemen at times, man.

Like, you know, they can be barbarians.

You feel me?

Like, it's really hard to reason with Russians, you know, soon as they start saying da, I've either saying da means yes in Russian.

You feel me?

They very aggressive species.

You feel me?

Like, you know, if you look up videos, people over there trying to be transgender, they pull out a rainbow flag.

10 Russian dudes chasing them down, beating them, taking the flag from them.

Yeah.

Nah, that's crazy.

And then we think we see about all of the things like this, all the money that's being moved into the Ukraine.

I saw a post that said $1 billion was spent to financial aid to give financial aid relief over 60,000 people now receive.

And I was like, 60,000 people have had their financial aid relief with $1 billion spent.

That's the thing.

The Democrats have an active operation to squeeze the middle class.

And Zelensky, the president of Ukraine's wife, bought a Bugatti last month and bought a super yacht for $60 million.

It's a money laundering operation going on.

So let's talk about the middle class for a minute.

Because I don't know if you're middle class, but I'm middle class.

When that evaporates, if America allows the middle class to evaporate, what does that turn America into?

So that's a good question.

I feel like ever since COVID a lot of the middle class decided they wanted to be entrepreneurs, and a lot of them did not go back to work.

That's a fact.

So them bringing the influx of migrants is to replace that group of people.

That's the whole plan.

That's it in a nutshell right there.

No Diddy.

He said no Diddy.

No Diddy.

Speaking of Diddy, man, now, like, now what I was gonna say, man, you know, you from Chi Town, man, you from Chicago, you know what I'm saying?

And Chicago is one of the, if not the most deadliest place on planet Earth.

I wanted to ask you as a black man, you sitting up here, you made it out of that, obviously, you know what I'm saying?

And I know barely.

Barely can you from your perspective, we seeing headlines today where you see the people that try to put a hit on Quando Rondo, all five of them go down.

You see the people that went big Duck, they all go down.

Otf.

Can you speak from your perspective?

What is it about Chicago that makes it like that?

Okay, so my personal point of view is, you know, Chicago is the birthplace of, you know, you got the St.

Valentine's Day massacre, you know, explain that.

What is it?

This right here tatted on my arm, the Tommy Gunn, they call it the Chicago typewriter.

You know, it's the home of Al Capone, Jeff Ford, Larry Hoover.

It's a place where.

It's a segregated city as well.

So everybody don't get along.

You say everybody, we talking about black.

White, different races of people all don't get along.

So, you know, you got Chinatown, you got Little Mexico, you got where the Puerto Ricans is in.

You got.

It's areas on the south side where it's only white people that live there.

You wouldn't really know until that you was there.

So is it dangerous in them hoods too?

Like, if you're black.

For sure.

For sure.

And in Chicago, like, if you blow your horn at somebody in traffic, you better be ready to shoot it out.

Like, nobody is about to reason with you.

The smallest things is gonna turn into violence.

And the Internet is making things more prominent now.

But it's been like this since I was a kid.

So, like, when we see academics highlighted.

He's not exaggerating.

None of that shit.

That's really how it is.

No, that's no exaggeration.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's how it's going down, for sure.

Cause in Chicago is murder over money.

Why though?

Like, how do you know how it got like that?

What's the history of how it got like that?

I'm just curious.

Did it all start from the Tuca?

Cause, like, you know, when they always.

When you see the documentaries, right?

They always go all the way back to the Tuca killing.

It seems like, that's what they always put as their starting point.

But I know that probably ain't the real starting point.

No, it's not the real starting point.

So you gotta think about, like this.

Jeff Ford, the founder of the Black P Stones.

He had a viral clip where he said to the police, you know, there won't be no killing without killing.

He said.

It said to the police he had teamed up with Muammar Gaddafi and they had a plan to shoot down a commercial airplane.

Damn.

What weaponry?

They had one of them.

Those in the city, bro.

Yeah, I'm getting chills talking about it like.

Yeah, that was in the city.

So.

Hold on, Wait, wait, wait.

I want you to continue.

So they had plans to shoot down the commercial?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that was the plan.

And that's what got him under on the radar, you know, he in adx, Florence right now.

No contact in Chicago.

If you got a group, you better be militant, man.

Because Chicago is a hub for several cartels like the Twins.

That was a direct pipeline to El Chapo and the Sinaloa cartel.

A lot of things lead to Chicago.

Like, you got the Yakuza operating there.

You got the Triads operating there.

The Yakuza, yeah, for sure.

They operating there.

Yeah.

You go to Chinatown, bro.

You see some spooky guys, bro.

For sure.

The crazy part is that part is never highlighted.

We never hear about none of that.

We only hear about the black.

Yeah, because hip hop culture is the biggest business in the world.

It's the biggest culture in the world.

It's the biggest in the world.

So we.

So we still on the starting point of where the violence.

So, okay, you still taking us through that.

So the violence was already going on before the whole Chief Keef, all that shit.

It was going on before that.

So here's.

So let's say me and you, we own.

We in Chinatown, we get into it with some Yakuza niggers.

How does that look for us?

How does.

What does that look like?

Do we lose?

Because every time I see, like, some niggas go up against anybody else, but some niggas, it's like niggas just automatically take the L.

Here's the thing.

So, like, a Yakuza guy, you're not going to be able to identify him unless most Yakuza guys, when they dress, you can't see their sleeves or nothing.

You can't see they dress to the sleeve.

You can't see anything like that.

So, like, you gotta look at certain things.

Like the reason I'ma Know if someone's Yakuza or part of a triad or something like that, like, you know, you gotta look at their fingertips.

If you see a guy with a missing fingertip, he operating underneath that act, right?

And, you know, they don't believe in poison in their own community for sure.

You feel me?

Like, so they're not going to sell drugs in their community.

So why didn't.

Why didn't the black.

Blacks adopt that same ideology then?

Here's the thing.

So you don't see project buildings full of Chinese people.

And then you got to look at it.

All of the leadership for all of the street gangs in Chicago got removed.

You used to have to get permission to kill somebody.

You feel me?

So once the organization was removed and the leadership was removed, their plan backfired.

Because in every other country, they have task force for things they call blood feuds.

Blood feuds is a big thing.

Every other country, they have task force for blood feuds.

They'll negotiate with groups of guys to keep things smooth.

They didn't want to do that in Chicago, and it backfired.

Because I'm here, and I know exactly what you're talking about.

Yes, sir.

Because it's not so much that you will remove a leader from the street.

You would go and have a sit down with them and say, hey, y'all got too much going on.

We need that to.

I mean, I used to watch a show, Chicago pd.

Okay.

And I don't know if it's anything like, but, oh, boy, I forget his name.

He.

He wouldn't.

He wouldn't go arrest you.

He wouldn't go arrest the gang leader.

He pull up, he's like, hey, so y'all one of these niggas, One of your dudes shot a little girl over here on the other side.

I need something done about that.

Yeah, I would.

I didn't mean to cut you off.

Go ahead, bro.

Sorry.

But no, I would.

And, you know, in the show, they would do something with the dude, and it would just go back to business as usual, Right?

But it just seems like in Chicago, nobody's in charge.

At least on the black end.

It's like, you remove these figures, and now you just got a bunch of niggas with guns.

Blue state.

It's a blue state.

The Democrats cut the police balls off.

They don't let them police like that no more.

You know, you used to be able to trade with them, right?

You want your buddy to get out.

We need 10 guns.

We want these type of guns.

Don't bring us, no bullshit guns.

You can't do that no more.

That's crazy.

So let me ask you this.

So you know, like, we, you know, I feel like a lot of the black people got they shit from the gangsta movies, the Italian way and all that, right?

How much does Chicago operate on that type of time?

Or is it just they were under delirium?

Who.

Who are the leaders now?

That they were operating under the leaders now?

Yeah.

That they operating under?

Or is there any.

I can't say that on her.

I feel, I feel you.

But there are some people that they.

Yeah, yeah, okay.

Got you, got you.

So there is.

It ain't just.

It ain't just no structure.

There is some structure.

There is some structure, but we gotta be careful with this.

Okay?

There is some structure.

Uh, hold on.

Yeah, so Drill music.

Yes, sir.

Did that ruin the Chicago.

Did that ruin Chicago as a.

As a whole?

As a whole?

The hip hop music scene or the drill music ruin Hip hop period?

It influenced the rest of the world for sure.

Drill music is probably one of the worst things to take place in music.

That's why it's banned in Jamaica.

It's banned in Haiti, it's banned in Nigeria, it's banned in Kenya.

It's banned in certain places.

But the crazy part is, right, that's just like you said, that's just Chicago.

Everyday, normal life that people gravitated to.

So now you see documentary after documentary, you got trapped.

Lord Ross making documentary on Chicago.

When you see these documentaries, how much of that stuff is accurate?

What's the percentage that you would say?

Are they spot on or they way off?

I'll say about 20% of it be accurate.

Oh, shit.

What be the part they be just off?

Like, do they be over exaggerating how many people Vaughn murdered and not like.

You know, they talked about him like, they talked about him, bro, like he was Doug Messiah, Gacy Wayne, John Wayne Gacy.

Like, yeah, they talk about him like.

He was John Wick in the streets, bro.

Like, you know, like, like if he getting arrested, like the crime rate finna go down type.

That's how they talk about him, you feel?

They said Ki has 60 bodies.

They said little Shorty has 60 kills, bro.

Like these are military, right?

Oh, so, so okay, so let's go through that.

Let's go through it.

Let's go.

Let's debunk some of these.

Come on, let's do it.

Let's do it.

Ki.

What was Ki like?

She was a member, bro.

Yeah, she was a member once.

Taekwon got killed.

She turned up.

She started getting active.

You feel me?

But, like, all that having 60 kills, bro.

Like, where the.

Who's the people that's dead?

You feel me?

Like, a lot of things definitely got exaggerated, but certain guys was really catching hats, though.

Gotcha.

You feel me?

So, like, it be a lot of exaggerations going on.

You feel me?

But, you know, it's new media, man.

You feel people not sitting around watching cable and commercials and stuff like that.

You feel me?

They on the YouTube, bro.

You feel me?

So when you see them glorify it and now you see the demographic underneath it, try to emulate or outdo that.

What does your mind say?

Like, do you be wanting to say, bro, this is not what y'all think it is?

Or, like, what is your mindset when you see that?

That's a fantastic question.

So, you know, I always was.

I feel like I did my part to mentor a lot of young people.

Cause I remember when you would ask kids what they wanted to be.

I want to be a police officer.

I want to be a doctor.

No, they all want to be rappers, streamers, gangsters.

You feel me?

And the thing is, like, in Chicago, if people know you violent, bro, you feel me?

You know your name get mentioned with reverence.

You feel me?

If they know you a killer, bro, you gonna get special treatment for sure.

And people see that, like, to make a name for yourself, especially out south, out west, they believe in getting money.

They getting money out there.

You feel me?

So, like, it's a lot more control on the west side, but out south, that's where the whole Chief Keef era started at.

You feel me?

So out there, this murder over money.

Bro, how was Chief Keef able to circumvent all of that?

He.

He really just literally like, yeah, I'm.

I'm from Chicago, but, nigga, I'm super young.

When he got on to it, yeah.

Like, bro, he just seemed like a nigga 16, and got a whole bunch of money and just not involved in that.

Yeah, he got away.

He got away.

Cause, you know, in Chicago, like, your own people, your worst enemy, you feel me?

Like, you could be the most coldest, realest, most gangster ever.

You go on the Internet, it's gonna be 10, come on there and say, man, he a.

How you gonna say he a?

He didn't smoke five of y'all last summer.

That's just Chicago, bro.

Everybody carry themselves like they the God, brother.

You feel me?

Like, now, hold on, hold on.

I watched an interview with Some young dudes and they were talking about how they were crushing up Xanax, snorting it.

Is that a thing in Chicago, bro?

There's no leadership no more, bro.

Like, all the big guys either put up out the way or they booked.

They locked up, you feel me?

So like, I remember, bro, when wasn't no shorties finna even speak to no older niggas.

So now a Dude will be 17, say, yeah, I'm the big homie, I'm the chief.

Like how it don't work like that.

The Internet once the Internet, bro.

Chicago been wild, bro.

Me growing up, I done seen several gang wars, bro, you feel me?

I done seen several murders, bro.

I done seen guys get hit with carjacks, pushed in the trunk, you feel me?

Like, my uncles used to tie people up.

My auntie going out there trying to take them chicken and shit like that.

You know, it was crazy.

I used to work with this young lady that grew up in Chicago.

She was like, she's like, yeah, I've been kidnapped.

She was like, I was just walking.

I was 16 years old, walking down the street, some just grabbed me and threw me in the trunk.

That's how I made my first hundred thousand dollars.

Getting somebody back like that.

What, what, How?

Go into detail.

We need this.

This is it right here.

This is.

Clip this up with that.

Yeah.

So, you know, like I always tell people, bro, like, Chicago is very advanced when it comes to violence.

So if you gonna be able to operate out there, if you in the field, you gonna have to be just as violent as them.

You feel me?

I always operated with a certain moral compass.

Cause you know, my granny, my mom, my aunt Nina, like, they instill certain things in me, you feel me?

My uncle J, certain people.

And you know, I learned fast.

Like, okay, now you gonna be out here, you better be able to match these boys energy, right?

You feel me?

So like once I started the bodyguard stuff after football and word of mouth spread, you feel me?

So, like kidnapping Big out there, why?

But not.

I'm saying, I'm saying they just seemed.

This wild to say, like kidnapping is big.

I just never heard.

So let's just.

So let's say this, let's say there's a guy over here.

Are you watching this trap House do 50, 000 a day?

50000 every couple days.

All right, let's go take his mama and make him pay us.

Oh, so that ransom is real.

That's.

That's big out there.

Your hand.

So you said you made your first hundred Thousand.

Doing what?

Getting somebody back from.

So explain how that happened if you can.

I mean, we.

I mean, I don't know if we want to get into it for real.

So this is what I'll say.

Yeah.

There was a lady who was running an operation for some guys that was in jail.

So in Chicago, you should be able to call on three way.

You should be able to call from jail, and then the person you call could call other people on three way.

They stopped you from being able to do that.

But in that era, guys was making a lot of money behind the wall.

Some money she was responsible for came up missing.

And some people in her family are affluent family, and they had a lot of money.

The problem is, though, there's something called proof of life.

So once I got involved, I said, we gotta get a proof of life.

When the proof of life was sent, it was a precarious photo because she was face down, ass up, right?

And somebody in her family was enraged by that.

And he came with a bag of money and said, look, get my baby back as fast as possible.

So for us, we seeing that money, like, what?

Either gave us 50 up front, we get another 50 after that.

Oh, this GTA in real life, bro.

Yeah.

What the fuck?

How old was you when this happened, bro?

I was 21, bro.

I'm saying, y'all childhood is just way different, bro.

Oh, yeah, for sure, bro.

About 14, I had a car, you feel me?

Like, we got choppers in the bag.

By 14, it was already lit, you feel me?

It was already going down.

So, like.

Yeah.

I never said this on camera, but it's gonna be some motherfuckers mad.

Fuck them.

We gave you 50.

We got that 50 we was able to put together.

We put it together to make sure we.

Yeah, a couple people got the sledgehammer to the nuts and like that.

I need a shot now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is a sponsored body.

There we go.

Damn.

I'm gonna get the tequila.

This is what they.

This is what they meant when they.

Said, life is a movie.

It's not on tv.

That's why.

That's why I got a movie coming up.

Oh, God.

Oh, yeah.

I send you a clip.

Damn.

Now it makes sense.

Why Chicago?

Yeah, yeah, I'm good.

I'm.

You okay?

Yeah.

Sometimes I have, like, little seizures from concussions, but, like.

Oh, awesome.

Like football.

Yeah.

And.

Damn.

Need some more?

Oh, no, no, I'm done.

I was.

Because there's some more details today I'm just trying to get into.

That was good enough.

My Brain, See, I direct shit.

So my brain, like I'm seeing.

God damn.

Yeah.

We had to play crazy with them.

Like, so you know this off the record, right?

I'm saying.

Cause we got the camera going, Joe.

Yeah, that's why I was just thinking right there.

I'm saying.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

So you know, we had to play crazy with them.

Like, you know, if you take somebody.

If you take somebody.

So if you take somebody in order to make them want to give that person back, you gotta take something from them.

I'm not gonna say what was took, but some things got took and the negotiations started from right then and there.

Oh.

Because I was about to.

I was going to ask you about ucf, YBJ Main and Lil Durk on a mission to kind of bridge the gap on a peace thing.

How much are you buying into that?

Do you think it's a real thing?

And do you.

And obviously, hopefully it's a good thing because we do need peace.

But do you think it could actually work in Chicago?

No.

Why is that?

Too much blood been shared, bro.

And the thing with.

Is like, you know, Dirk not doing.

He not linking up with somebody who took lives on from his side.

He linking up with a comedian.

Yeah.

I was just saying what is.

Wasn't he, Duffy, what is fbg, man?

Not fbg.

You from Chicago?

Yeah.

FBG man.

Wasn't he FYB J man?

Yeah.

What is he?

I don't know.

Was he a gangster?

Like, he got serial.

I'm like, I'm really trying to hone in on was he a street guy that now he's being funny?

He was a street guy, you know, he wanted to bds, though.

Yeah.

You feel me?

But like he was on.

He was on Duckingham's side.

Yeah.

So like he used to be with the shit.

He not no hoe or nothing, you feel me?

Even right now, you push up on him, he hurt your ass.

You know what I'm saying?

But like, the fact that he was just a rapper and a person who was pretty much a victim from the other side, right.

He able to work with Dirk, you feel me?

They definitely serious though.

You feel me?

They definitely really trying to push peace and change certain things.

Because, bro, when the feds come, bro, it should have chilled down your back, bro.

But, bro, when the feds come, bro, it put, bro, it's a different vibe, bro.

Like when they start getting involved and then like they freezing bank accounts, you feel me?

They got you on 24 hour surveillance when certain things like that happen?

You know, guys will go through great lengths to prevent that Rico, man.

How do.

What is a sign that, you know that the feds are on your trail?

Like, I've heard sneakers say, the feds on my trail right now will be whooped or whatever.

They send you a letter, Are you?

What?

Yeah.

Huh?

Oh, wait, take us through that.

What?

So.

But you talking about this is where the Rico or this is just when they.

On your.

When the feds are investigating you, they send you a letter and tell you you're under investigation.

Wouldn't that be a sign to just start.

Start chilling?

Or is it too late?

The problem is, bro, you feel me?

Like, guys will say, damn, the Fed's on me.

I need to make as much as I can right now before they come.

See, that's what I'm saying, bro.

Like, it's a lot of people on the Internet who wasn't outside, because I would have seen them.

Give me the top five people who was outside.

You crazy.

See, the last interview, Jeff, he wasn't here.

Yeah, he wasn't here for that.

He crazy.

Yeah, folks grave.

Oh, insane.

You just snapped.

So damn.

Shout out Real life Jeff.

He ain't playing no games in here.

Wait, you ain't listening.

You know what?

Or just the top five people you respect?

Oh, I'd rather go back to the first question.

Okay.

Okay, let me hit the vape on this.

So your question was the top five people that was outside.

That was for real outside.

Not.

Not the academics.

Warrants.

Not none of that.

Somebody that was really in it, living it, you know what I'm saying?

Okay, Big Dog.

He's not a rapper.

Huh?

That's my right hand, man.

He just did Cam Capone too.

Okay, Big Duguard turn up.

God G.

Lemma.

You put in some real history right here.

I don't know.

051, Melly.

And yeah, I'm gonna leave it right there.

So was any of the artists and Marcel full.

No, for sure was any of the artists.

You know how they always say, you know, like the artists sometimes are the front man for the real street cats.

Were there any artists that were actually respected on that level?

Bump J.

Sly, Polaroid.

Hold on.

My bad part of me.

I'll repeat that.

Bum J Slot, Polaroid, Shoddy Foe.

Man, that boy names I ain't never heard.

You never heard of Shoddy Fall?

No, I'm saying, like a lot of people don't.

Okay, okay.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bump J Slop.

Holy Roy Shorty.

Foe.

And what about Lep?

Lep Bogus boy.

Shout Out Mooney and Shout out G Count.

The funny thing is that you mentioned them.

I ended up.

I did security for them before they actually hired me.

Before.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

They see me doing some guys bad in the club and, like, they hired me on the spot.

Shout out G Camp.

Shout out.

Shout out Mooney.

For sure, G.

Kind of a real gangster, bro.

Nah, I heard the song when they.

He did.

When?

Why you get down on Dirk, Blood?

Why you get down on Dirt, Blood?

He said you tapped in with the Blackstone.

You definitely have to come see me.

Tell me exactly who.

You tell me exactly who you talking about.

I green light on their ass, too.

So I gotta.

I got just a question I gotta ask you.

So if you get your chain took or you get robbed, does that make you a hoe?

Cause people, it always seems like whenever somebody's trying to discredit somebody, that's the first thing that they go to.

Oh, n.

You got your shit took or da da da da da.

So how do you look at that?

So here the thing with that, like, we done got back plenty chains, and.

I was just gonna ask, have you ever had to get a rapper's chain back?

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

Hell yeah.

Plenty of time.

We stopped doing it, though, because, like, you know, we come to find out, like, man, you just paid us to get a fake chain back.

Because if you a rapper, if you look at history, when a rapper chain get took, they fall down, trill, Sammy shy, glizzy, like Young Buck, you see that once that chain get took as a rapper.

But if you a real guy in the street, like, we all know if you really ran the streets, anything can happen to anybody.

And if you a nigga who get money, you finna get that shit up.

You feel me?

We'll check on that later.

Unless then you got some guys, though, that you gonna have to kill them, right?

So you gotta keep that in mind.

Like, some guys, you gonna have to kill them for that shit.

You feel me?

But how do you look at it personally?

How do you.

Or how does a nigga in your position take that?

Like, I look at it as an opportunity.

I'm saying, do you look at it.

Do you look at that person like, less than.

Cause you got your shit snatched or just he's part of the game?

That's a good question.

So this is my point of view on it, right?

If you're not moving tactical and if you don't have respect for your environment and you Allow people to push up on you.

And if you can't protect what you wearing, you don't deserve that shit.

You shouldn't have it on.

But for me, I see it as an opportunity.

Cause, like, soon as I hear something got took, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm reaching out immediately.

What happened?

So what you willing to pay to get it back?

I'm calling fast.

Cause, like, me and the guys, we love that type of shit.

Cause, you know, we tapped in.

You feel me?

Like, and then we know, like, which pawn shops melt gold.

You feel me?

We know which jewelers, we know which jewelers melt.

Like, if we know who got the machine that they store, they can melt it on the spot.

So, like, if you tapped in with the city, you know, if it got took in Calumet City, all right, call Neil.

Cause Neil, he finna melt it down immediately.

You feel me?

And then.

So that's really how that go, bro.

You feel me?

I was.

I always wondered, like, if a nigga robbed your chain, right, and put it on the Internet that he got your chain, shouldn't I just call the police on you?

Okay, they only gonna call police if they got that shit insured.

If it's insured, they have to call the police in order to cash in on that insurance got so that you.

Ain'T looked at like no hoe.

Well, what if you call the police?

Yeah, you look at it.

Oh, you want.

You supposed to have the money to get it back by it again.

And that be the thing.

Like, it's like the whole, like, street code, right?

That shit really don't really exist.

Yeah.

Only a small group of people operating by that.

So, like, I'm not going to judge you if you call the law to get your jewelry back.

Cause for me, I know if you are most rappers not gangster.

They not doing nothing criminal.

But they're portraying it, though, bro.

That's how this entertainment.

Like, when I was growing up, the real killers would put the money behind the guy who rapped.

Cause he not doing nothing.

But not the facade.

But the thing about Chicago that took off is it looked like the nigga's rapping was doing it.

We gotta keep it real.

That was the thing that made people go, oh, shit.

You know what?

You know, it be niggas that.

It's like, y'all pop.

We know more about niggas that can't even really rap for real.

Like, niggas are just investing in Chicago politics for whatever reason.

You know what I'm saying?

They got a whole Reddit, they got Reddit pages and blogs dedicated just to look at Chicago because of that shit.

57 has a song called Hustler's Ambition.

Yes.

One of the lines in that song is, america love this.

America love this gangster shit.

They love me.

Yeah, that's the thing, bro.

And like, the problem is like.

Like being out here, for example.

Like out here, the men that I've met are a lot more modest, right?

But I can look at certain guys eyes and tell if he a gangster, if he a killer or stuff like that, you feel me?

Like out here like this, the most jewelry and chains I ever saw.

You feel me?

Because you can tell when you in a community of people who they put money over the violence.

You see what I'm saying?

Where I come from, bro, you not popping like yesterday.

Rook Joker fast had on a different chair yesterday.

We got to the club, I'm like, man, let me make sure I got an escape plan.

Cause my boy, the dancers ain't wanna leave.

You feel me?

He like, man, I'm married.

You feel me?

I can't even be.

I'm like, man, I saluted him for that.

You feel me?

So, you know, I had sent them a text message.

When I get to any place, you feel me?

I'm gonna shake every security person's hand.

And you gotta respect the house.

And then I'm gonna walk around, I'm gonna find.

You gotta be tactical situational awareness, you feel me?

So I sent him and I sent Joker a picture of the exit we was gonna take in case something happened, you feel me?

And Faz was all he.

He was.

He.

He know his surroundings.

So, like, when it was time for us to go the same door, I sent him a photo of.

We left out the back door.

Yeah, we didn't you see what I'm saying?

So, like, you don't really see that a lot, right?

You know what I'm saying?

So, like, I was like, okay, you know what?

I want to do more stuff with these guys, you feel me?

Because they moving like men, you feel me?

But you could tell, like when certain guys are getting wild with you or not, right?

So, like, you know, the only thing.

We did that I would not never usually do is sit in the parking lot and talk to somebody, right?

I never.

Yeah, I don't think you would have did that if I wasn't right there.

No, I wouldn't.

That would start talking, I'd be like, all right, bro.

And we got my way.

Yeah, bro.

Like everywhere I go, bro, somebody recognized me.

Yeah, Little barbecue dude.

He said, he's like, man, I seen you before, man.

I see your turkey legs, man.

Man, you gotta come.

I got his number and everything.

You feel I'm pulling up on him tomorrow, get a turkey leg.

I appreciate you for that, though.

Yeah.

I like to chill and talk to people, bro.

You feel me?

People be saying, like, man, you too humble and all this.

I'm like, bro, I'm a lion, man.

You know, I want to.

Speaking of, like, ladies, strip clubs and ladies, man, you had some pretty famous situations.

The bodyguard's always hitting all the tactics.

I'm gonna send you a photo right now.

Now, keep it real.

What's the lowest number of girl you didn't hit?

All right, this is something I get.

Okay, so last week, the top Google search was Big Homie, CC Wife, right?

That was the top.

I'll send you a screenshot.

That was.

That was the top Google search.

The lowest number.

Now, here the thing, bro, I'm gonna say something.

Anybody who know me, they know this, you know, bro, like, big homie blocks wife.

You blocked your wife.

But I don't even have a wife.

I never was even married.

Okay, okay.

The lowest number.

I'm gonna say eight.

Damn.

That's pretty goddamn good.

Had a thing, though.

But I only had sex with seven girls in my life.

You know me, only bears distant for.

Your ass right there.

That's why I'm alive.

Oh, so it's a Chicago mindset thing.

When they get you.

Is it because of the setup girls?

Is it like, I've been trying to.

You said that's why you alive?

That's a profound statement.

Like.

Yeah.

What does that mean?

You.

You.

You equated only having sex, seven sexual partners to.

That's why you alive.

Yeah.

So explain that.

I'm just, you know, as a man.

So if you in the field that I'm in, you automatically know when they get you.

It's either over money or female.

That's the only if you.

If you a man operating at a certain level, that's the only time they can get you.

And I've been a person who come get people, bro.

You feel me?

Right?

You know, there's rules to the game.

You know, I've had close homies, girlfriends get murdered with them.

Damn.

I seen the worst parts of society.

I seen the underbelly of the world.

And, you know, I always operated, bro.

No women, no kid.

In my line of work, my lifestyle, you know, I didn't have real powerful enemies, bro.

I was always real secretive about my Sister, my mom, my aunts and stuff like that, you know, I've had several bounties on my life.

I see my own blood leave my body several times.

I still got people who want to kill me.

Just last week, one of my dugout called me and said, hey, bro, such and such, trying to get your low when you come to Chicago, bro.

And it's like, you know, you gotta move real mysteriously, bro, because, like, if they gonna get you, bro, girls is finna get their hair done, bro.

They finna get them nails done, they going shopping, they posting pictures.

And I was like, man, I'm involved in too much.

So, you know, I went through periods in my life where I would just.

I would go celibate, you feel me?

The longest time I went celibate was like two years.

And then, you know, when you bodyguard guys with flexible income, like, you know, I done been bodyguard, I've been protecting people.

I done seen guys spend 100,000 in the airmen store on their girl.

And then two months later, they hitting me up, bro, loan me 20, bro.

About this going on.

They done spent it on chasing females.

I see me, I'm only gonna talk to the girls who like me.

I'm not finna go talk to the lady I like.

Because the lady I like, if she don't like you, bro, you gotta go through all type of hoops to get her to deal with you.

And the first time you make a mistake, she gonna treat you bad.

I had insight, you feel me?

Like, most of the times when dudes will hire me, it's to look important, to get girls.

Keith, smile at these chicks right here.

Keith, go talk to them.

Kill her.

Go.

Think about it like this.

When you go get a car, you put rims and paint and all of that, you never really see it.

It's for other people to see.

You feel me?

And like, the modern females, you feel me?

They can't really tell who have money.

Oh, yeah.

They can't tell who really got money.

And then if you look at history, all of the celebrities and stars that they got trained to like, it's all homosexual men.

So the moment they come across a man who truly masculine, they wanna run away, play crazy with you.

They don't wanna listen or nothing.

Cause they like gay dudes.

Now, look, nothing wrong with being gay as long as you not trying to trick and force it on other people.

So, like, you know, bro, when it come to that, I'm real slippery, bro.

Like, all right, man, once you know, bro, like, bro, females, bro, they will line you up, bro?

What's the grimiest thing you seen a woman do?

Came to the spot, window shopping to make sure I was there so motherfuckers could pull up and try to smoke me.

That video I showed you, did I send it to you?

Yeah, bro.

She come through the door.

Oh, yeah.

This big homie here.

I'm trying to get this.

She's like, yeah, I'm kind of short on my money.

Can you give me this for a certain price?

I'm like, shorty, no.

How is you short?

You work as a nurse.

How is you short?

And it's Friday.

I know you not short, motherfucker.

Not trying to.

Motherfucker collecting on Friday.

Ain't trying to give out no goddamn wo.

About three hours later, motherfucker come to the door.

We looking on the little camera.

He got his gun out, but he tried to tuck it behind his back.

He know what happened.

Oh, bro.

Popped his dumb ass.

Fuck.

That's crazy.

I didn't say females do recipes.

Leprechaun, Cujo.

Look this up.

His name, Leprenis Cujo.

This my homie, Stunner, one of the Click members.

This his cousin, Horny, man.

He ended up in a trunk with another nigga.

They showed up to kick it with old girl.

When they got there, niggas pop out, boom.

Kidnapping.

Get in this trunk.

Tell your people to send that money.

They ain't send the money.

They smoked them.

L A P R E N T I S Cujo with a care C U D J O O.

Bam.

So.

So that.

So that right there shaped how you move and operate with women.

So is there.

Is there a point?

Like, for instance, right?

Anybody in your position, let's say you're out.

You're a bodyguard.

You meet somebody and you feeling her.

How do you approach that situation?

I don't even approach it at all.

So you just.

You project.

So you're projecting that something bad is going to happen right out the gate.

Yeah, the life I live, you got to plan for the worst, expect the worst, and hope for the best and hope that your situational awareness and the steps you took to keep things safe, work.

But like, when you, like, let's just say, like when you in a city like you in Dallas, right?

And it's all love, right?

It's.

You're not in your same environment.

You go out and you genuinely meet a woman that seems to feel you.

You know what I'm saying?

Do you let the guard down then, or you still got your guard up, period?

I'm not even Gonna do that?

Yeah.

When it comes to that, I'm only gonna kick it with dancers.

Like, you know, I got an extensive network, you know what I'm saying?

So a friend of mine who live out here, I've been knowing her over 10 years.

You feel me?

Solid woman, she recently just moved here from Mississippi.

So, like, I've been kicking it with her when I'm out here.

But, like, I'm not going to.

I'm not going to parlay if I just met you.

I'm not going to parlay with you.

Only with dancers, though, because, like, if I go to a new city, if I want to find out about that city, you got to go to the strip club.

That's how you find out who's doing what, who making what, who creating this, who the promoters is, who's selling cars, who doing what.

You feel me?

Because I'm giving game right now on, bro.

I know you feel me.

So that's a tactic.

You feel me?

And then first thing I always do is I go to a couple pawn shops.

You feel me?

You go to the pawn shop and you see what's in the pawn shop.

So, like, I prefer to.

If I.

If I'm booked somewhere, I prefer to get to that city a day early so I can do my investigation and see what's going on, you feel me?

Because you gonna know how an area is doing based off what's in the pawn shop or what's not in the pawn shop.

That's crazy.

That's some boy.

What.

What is the protocol if you somewhere and you see somebody that you beefing with in a different city?

I'm gonna immediately go up to him and talk to him.

I'm like, look, bro, what we gonna do about them?

We gonna fight, shoot, or be cool?

Yeah.

I'm not even gonna play no around with that at all.

I'm gonna immediately approach him on some humble activity.

You know, I'm gonna extend the olive branch first, you feel me?

You know, I'm not never trying to get on no gangster shit with you.

You feel me?

If I feel myself making that turn, I'm gonna start gang banging with everybody.

I'm gonna leave.

Because now you the dickhead.

You the asshole now, right?

You feel me?

And then, bro, I'm six.

Six, bro.

£400, bro.

You feel me?

Like, and then when you a big dude, bro, like, you feel me?

The guy that's scared of you ain't gonna act like he's scared of you, right?

You feel me?

And then, you feel me?

And the guys that got a problem with you, like, they not finna walk up and say, let's fight.

They finna try to snake you.

So, you know, bro, that's why I just move as humbly as possible.

Cause I know myself, bro.

I'm gonna take it.

I'm not scared of hell or jail.

You feel me?

So, like, you know, I wouldn't have been able to succeed in this business if I wasn't crazy.

You feel me?

Like, but now that you a little.

Bit older, do you ever just sit back and be like, damn, bro, we, like, really take life for granted how we lived.

You know what I mean?

Like, you got all these kids dying so young.

I mean, it's crazy when.

Now that I just look at it and I be like, man, this nigga died at.

How old was Tuca?

14, 15 or some shit.

And I'm like, bro, that's my homie Duga cousin.

That's his blood.

Little cousin.

I've been to Tuka day.

You know what I'm saying?

And it's like.

And they made songs about this, and it's like, I get it.

Everybody was young at the time.

So you young and dumb and you doing what you're doing.

But when you sit back, you be like, damn, bro, we really just ain't valuing life for real.

Right?

Right?

Yeah, well, okay, so I'll say this right, as a man, you know, if I gotta take a chance today, right?

You know what I'm saying?

But, you know, I always got on bulletproof.

Like this right here.

This is bulletproof T shirt, you feel me?

I wear it so much, like the elastic and shit, but this shit, like, this could take a nine, you feel me?

I always got this on.

You feel me?

Like, people see me in the pool.

Why you got that on?

They don't even know.

They don't even know it's bulletproof.

You know what I'm saying?

You know, like, you should start your.

Own line of bulletproof T shirts.

That'd be crazy.

Good idea.

Fuck with us, we'll put your face on.

We'll put your face on him.

Really?

I'm armed at all times, you feel me?

So I gotta ask you about just a couple.

Just.

I'm just gonna ask you about a couple scenarios just on some bodyguard.

Break it down.

I like Jeff, but I see how y'all dynamic is.