00:00 What Are Your Summer Break Plans?
01:04 Special Visitors and Their Impact
03:04 Exploring Texas with Friends
03:51 Daily Bible Reading: 2 Samuel 24 and 1 Chronicles 21-22
04:13 Understanding David's Census and Its Consequences
06:26 Theological Insights and Reflections
12:22 David's Repentance and God's Mercy
15:08 The Temple Mount and Its Significance
16:33 Psalm 30: A Dedication Song
17:17 Closing Thoughts and Prayer
17:55 Outro
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:I would agree with
everything that you said
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:Hey everybody.
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:Welcome back to another edition of
the Daily Bible Podcast, how you, we
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:are looking at the end of the, another
week end of school for most people.
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:So congrats to all of the kiddos out
there and buckle up to all the parents
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:out there because it's summer break.
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:That's right.
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:I.
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:It's gonna be good.
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:Just laying out on that one.
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:You cleaned up that gap thing.
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:Thought I thought you
were gonna say things.
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:Yeah, no, I, waiting for you to say stuff.
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:You're a parent too.
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:I thought you might chime
in and I am a parent.
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:You are parent.
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:I'm excited to have my kids
home, so I'm not mad about that.
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:Yeah, I know.
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:The time is short and my time with
them will eventually be over and
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:I'll be missing all these summer
vacations with them, even though
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:it's a bit harder to go to work.
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:I'll admit that.
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:Yep.
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:When I have to drive away and
everyone's at home and they're gonna
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:go off and do things, and Kristen's
oh, we're gonna go play at the, we're
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:gonna to the park, or we're gonna go
to this place or that place today.
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:And I thought, oh, splash pad.
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:You like the splash pad?
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:Sorry.
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:Have I do love I'd like
to be with them at least.
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:Not Splash Pad myself.
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:I don't know.
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:If the, I guess it depends on the
weather and shoving little kids outta
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:the way to get to the sprinklers.
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:My turn kid.
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:But you won't have to for the first
week at least, you're gonna be out
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:off at least for the next week, right?
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:Yeah.
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:We have some friends coming
from outta town from California.
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:Okay.
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:So at least for half of the time we'll
be doing all sorts of things with them.
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:Cool.
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:And I'm not entirely sure what
we're gonna be doing just yet.
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:We're trying to still
figure out some of that.
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:So for the first half of the week,
we'll have time to, I don't know,
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:get stuff done that we don't feel
like we have time to do right now.
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:I get the car in the shop.
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:So if if that goes well, we might
be able to drive a little bit.
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:We'll see how that goes.
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:So yeah it's it, it's all
planned, at least in my mind.
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:It's all the pieces are there.
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:So I'm not sure if there's gonna
be anything that I might come
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:back and I might be more tired.
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:That's a possibility.
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:I'm not gonna be rested.
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:We'll see.
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:Have you have these people been
out to visit you previously?
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:Have they been here before?
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:No.
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:These people are Okay.
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:So it's they're friends.
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:In that I, I've known them since,
probably since I was 13 give or take.
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:They're so Calvin and Brenda Kelly are.
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:Are a family that took me and my
brother in, and they took us back and
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:forth to church for several Sundays.
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:Took us out to lunch
with them several times.
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:These are one of the families
that I really owe a lot of my
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:Christianity to because they just
instructed and informed it so deeply.
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:And so I got back in touch with Brenda
not too long ago just to check in on
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:'em, say, Hey, how you guys doing?
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:It's been years.
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:And she's Hey, I'd love
to come see you guys.
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:We're like, that'd be awesome.
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:We'd love that.
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:Which is why I took some of the
time off in the first place.
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:'cause I thought, oh, that'd be
really cool to see that happen.
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:And one thing led to another and
there's complications and I don't
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:know if we can make it anymore.
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:And now it looks like they're gonna
be able to make it calvin was one of
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:my leaders back in, I guess it must've
been middle school, junior high.
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:We had this thing in the
charismatic church, the Assemblies
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:of God called Royal Rangers.
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:Have you ever heard of this thing?
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:I've, I have.
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:Yeah.
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:So it's the equivalent to Boy Scouts.
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:They have badges and things like that.
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:They have their equivalent Eagle Scout.
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:Anyway, he was one of my leaders
and Brenda was one of my, just
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:one, one of those people that.
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:She's a teacher, was a teacher.
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:Anyway, she's retired now, but had
the impact on my life and many other
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:people's lives that just stays with you.
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:So I'm really excited to, to host
them and excited to spend time with
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:them and have my kids meet them too,
because they're so impactful to my life.
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:That's great, man.
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:That's awesome.
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:That is that'll be a good time.
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:I was asking that question.
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:'cause you've got the
world as your oyster.
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:Then you could take 'em out to Fort Worth.
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:You could take them.
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:Downtown be like, look, this is the X
on the ground where Kennedy was shot,
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:and yeah, here's the grassy knoll.
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:And yeah, it depends on the
weather, all that stuff.
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:Yeah, I remember.
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:Yeah, if the weather is a
common, these are Californians.
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:So if you take them out in the Texas
humid heat, which is here, they might die.
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:Even though I've acclimated,
I still don't like it.
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:I'd rather not have it.
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:Then take him to the splash pad
and you and I might, you and Calvin
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:can shove all the kids outta the
way to get the best features.
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:Calvin's a foodie, so I'm gonna need
to find places that are Oh, okay.
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:He's a foodie.
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:He loves a good meal and so I,
I can only think of barbecue.
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:Barbecue's gotta be barbecue.
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:Especially if Calvin's whipping out the
the credit card to pay for that mail.
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:Anyways.
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:Let's jump into our daily
Bible reading for the day.
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:We are in two Samuel 24 and one Chronicles
21 through 22, and then Psalm 30.
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:So all that to say, by the way, next
week as you're listening and you're
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:gonna wear the Dulcet towns of sounds
of Pastor Rod, he's gonna be outta town.
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:So dulcet towns are outta sound,
dulce towns and outta sound.
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:Yep.
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:He's gonna be away from the office.
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:So we're excited for him to get that rest.
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:Second Samuel 24, we have David's
census is what the ESV has called this
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:because that's what happens in here.
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:But we've got a problem and let's just
tackle it right off the bat because
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:second Samuel 24 1 says, the anger of
the Lord was kindled against Israel.
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:Okay?
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:So we can agree on that
across accounts, right?
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:But then it says he, which
would be the object there, which
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:would be the Lord incited David.
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:Now to incite means to provoke or to
cause someone to do something against them
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:saying, go and number Israel and Judah.
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:Now if we jump over to our other reading
for today, starting in one chronicles.
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:21.
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:Yeah, we're gonna find something else.
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:It's gonna say then Satan stood
against Israel and incited
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:We talked about this last year.
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:I think we, we talk about it every time
we come across this passage because
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:it's worth note and it's noteworthy.
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:And so I just wanna double down
on, on what we've covered before.
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:But that is the, these two
things appear to contradict.
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:God is not Satan, right?
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:I feel like I can agree with this.
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:That's good.
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:So what do we do here?
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:I don't think this needs to cause much
consternation if we've read the Book of
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:Job, which in our chronological reading
we've already read the book of Job.
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:So if you go to Job and Satan
appears before God and says, Hey.
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:God have you considered job?
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:Or God says to Satan,
have you considered job?
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:And Satan says, does he
fear God for no reason?
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:And God says why don't you go
and make his life miserable?
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:That's my version, at least the
PSV, the PJ standard version.
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:And Satan goes and does just that.
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:You could ask the
question, who afflicts job?
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:Is it God or is it Satan?
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:And that's what we have here.
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:Who incited David to number
the people of Israel.
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:Is it God or is it Satan?
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:It appears that God allowed Satan to
do this in David's life out of a, an
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:extension of his hand of discipline
on the nation of Israel as a whole.
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:What's troubling to me
is we don't know why.
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:We don't know why God's angry
with Israel at this point other
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:than the text says that he was,
that he's angry against Israel.
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:And maybe it's a similar situation
to what we read not long ago with the
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:crimes of Saul against the Gibeonites.
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:God is not a God with a short memory.
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:He can remember when when offenses
need to be righted and made right.
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:And so perhaps it's something that's even.
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:In their past that he's now angry
again over and and he's causing
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:David to do this, which then leads
to his hand of discipline on them.
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:But Pierre, any, anything else to
say on the variation between two
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:No, just to point out again, that
scripture doesn't have a problem
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:that, that we do, we will feel the
tension of these accounts and say,
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:man, I wonder how you put these
pieces together when Second Samuel and
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this they're not apologizing for it.
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:Some rationale to say, this
is how this works together.
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:It's man's choice.
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:It's a real choice.
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:He's got responsibility, but
God has perfect sovereignty.
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:And this is what I love and sometimes
find frustrating about scripture,
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:is that it just, this is what it is.
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:And so I think one of the lessons for
us is that often, and it's not bad to
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:ask the questions, but sometimes the
questions can be so confounding for
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:us and so difficult and such a brain
twister that for some people, and I'm
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:not overstating this at all, I don't
think they can have a crisis of faith.
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:Scripture says here, this
is in second Samuel 24.
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:He was incited against David and
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:I think our job as Christians is
to humbly receive both pieces of
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:information and say, okay God does
all things without sin because he's
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:perfectly righteous and perfectly just,
and scripture itself is infallible.
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:It's telling us the
truth of these matters.
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:So we have to assume then the way that
God is working is that he is utilizing
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:the devil and a sinless way to accomplish
his sinless works and his desires.
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:How that works?
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:And we'd have to confess humbly, there's
a lot of things that God does that we
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:don't know how he does those things.
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:This is part of his point with Job,
as you were just saying, pastor pj,
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:when Job was accusing God, God said,
but Job, just take a few minutes here.
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:Let me ask you a couple questions.
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:You tell me how this works and
I'll tell you how this works.
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saying, I'm gonna put my hand
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:I'm speaking outta my place here.
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:And I think that's the ultimate
posture we have to take.
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:Scripture's telling us the truth.
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:We have to take it at face value,
but how we put the pieces together,
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:ultimately that's left up to God.
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:And in, in this account, it's
interesting because David knew that
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:what he was doing was not right.
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:And you say how do you know that?
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:Because Joab even knew that what
David was doing was not right.
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:Because when David goes and task
job with counting the troops in both
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:two Samuel 24 and first Chronicles
21, we read the job protests.
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:He says, why do you want me to do this?
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:May the Lord grant the king multiple
hundreds, as many as we have
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:right now but why are you causing
me to go to number the troops?
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:He knew that this was not
something that was right.
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:In fact, in the first Chronicles
account in 21 3, it says, why should
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:Clearly David would've known it was
wrong, and yet he moves forward and Joab
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:does it in obedience here to the king.
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:Can you talk about what's
wrong about taking a census?
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:Because I think a lot of people
would be confused about why counting
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:people would be considered sin.
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:It's, it comes down to our
trust and our confidence, right?
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:As, as we've read in the psalm, some
trust in chariots, some in horses, but
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:we trust in the name of the Lord our God.
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:You could substitute
chariots and horses for.
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:The numbers of troops that we have.
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:And so the reason why God didn't want
David to take in account of the number
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:of fighting men is he wanted David to
always be mindful of the fact that God was
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:the one that was winning the victories.
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:God was the one that was
fighting the battles.
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:And yes, that was through the troops
that David had, but David's trust
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:The trust that the Philistine kings or
the Ammonite kings or the Assyrian Kings,
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:David's trust was a trust in God, that God
was the one that was fighting the battles
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:and that was the decisive factor, not
how many thousands of people that he had.
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:Which on that note, pastor
Rod you have often brought up
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:And so we have another discrepancy
in numbers here in second Samuel
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:24 and first Chronicles 21 as far
as the total numbers in the census.
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we amount to about one point.
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Chronicles 21, we amount to 1.1
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:Who drew the sword?
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:Any thoughts on how we resolve these
discrepancies between these two numbers
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:And the short answer is I don't
think we have a good answer to it.
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:A few options have been presented, but I
don't even know if they're worth sharing.
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:Honestly, as I studied this
and I, I did some mild digging.
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:I don't always get to do a
ton in the morning, but my.
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to say the least.
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:At the end of the day, I'm gonna have
to say, and this is how I counsel
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:I like to fancy myself as
someone who thinks about things
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:I'm gonna have to say to myself,
okay, if I have multiple numbers
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:here, it's possible that multiple
tabulations are being done.
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:There's more than one way to
skin the cat as a saint goes.
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:And so I'm gonna say, okay, maybe
one is using one type of accounting
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:method and one is using another.
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:Or option two, there's
a textual issue here.
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:There's a, there's a.
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:Recording issue.
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:And that doesn't in any way cause us to
lose faith in the manuscripts because
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:ultimately the original manuscripts are
what we're gonna say are infallible and
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:in errand the copies of the manuscripts
are where we can have some issues here.
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:Thankfully, this is not an area where we.
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:Our faith is resting upon the numbers.
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:That's gonna be my posture.
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:My hope God's gonna take care of this.
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:I may not know how the numbers are being
pieced together, but either A, there are
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:multiple ways of accounting for the same
numbers, or B, there's a textual issue.
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:Yeah, and there's, we're probably
dealing, remember with probably I,
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:rough and dirty somewhere between
four to 500 years between the writing
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writing of First and Second Chronicles.
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:Remember Chronicles
being a post exilic book.
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:And so there's quite a bit of time
that's passed between the actual.
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:Happening of this event and when
the chronicler is recording it.
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:And so it's amazing when you
think about that, that there is
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:so much parallels to begin with,
that so much of the information
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:it has been recorded accurately.
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:And that's a testimony to the veracity
of scripture and the inspiration
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:of scripture that, that it's the
spirit that's guiding them and
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:carrying them along and doing this.
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:We can look at some of
these things like that.
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:And to your point, not
have our faith be shaken.
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:God has preserved it quite well.
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:And the people that preserved
it, you have to think about it,
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:these guys who are trying to carry
resources into their captivity.
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:These guys who are trying to, they're
trying to preserve the scriptures even as
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:they're being attacked by foreign peoples.
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:And they're suffering the land being
slaughtered and all these things.
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:So I think it's enormously important
that we do see, to your point,
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:His people's records through the books.
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:As we finish up chapter 24 in one
Chronicles 21 David is, this is
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:a, some growth in David, I think,
because David doesn't wait for
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:Nathan to come and confront him.
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:He doesn't try to cover
up his sin or hide it.
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:He immediately feels conviction and he
goes to the Lord and confesses and that
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:is not like what he did with Bathsheba.
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:And so there's some growth, there's some
sanctification it seems like here with
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:David, but God is still gonna punish.
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:And so God gives David these choices.
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:David says, Lord, let me fall into
your hands for you are merciful.
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:Of men.
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:And so a plague comes and wipes
out 70,000 of the people of Israel.
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:This is quite an impact.
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:And you gotta think about their families
and how devastating it would be for their
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:families to lose their fathers, their
husbands, their sons in this plague.
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:That was a result of
David taking this census.
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:The final scene then it is is
even more poignant as the angel
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:is there to come against the
city of Jerusalem to destroy it.
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:And the Lord at that point,
relents and says, it's enough.
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:Stay your hand.
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:The Lord was by the threshing
floor of Aruna, the Jebe site and
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:David had spoken with the Lord
and said, look, I have sinned.
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:I've done wickedly, but the people
that you've entrusted to my care,
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:they have and so please let your hand
be against me and not against them.
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:And so David is really commendable in
the way that he responds to his sin.
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:But we also have to feel the
weight of the fact that there
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:is consequence for his sin.
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:And 70,000 people lose their
life because of David's.
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:Taking his eyes off of God and putting
it on his hope and men, and you say,
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:but God ordained that it should happen.
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:God incited him to do that.
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:And yeah that's one of the
really difficult, hard, sticky
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:things about how that works.
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:God is a hundred percent sovereign.
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:We are a hundred percent
responsible for our actions.
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:And here's another example of where
those two things work out together.
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:David was gonna bear the consequences.
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:The people were gonna bear the con
consequences for David's sin, even
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:though God is the one who incited
or allowed Satan to incite David
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:to do the thing in the first place.
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:And again, just to
reiterate here, that the.
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:The census itself was not a sin, it
was the way that David approached it.
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:And because he's king, we believe
in this concept of a federal head.
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:And we see this concept played
out in the New Testament.
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:So it's important to see this in
the same way that someone can suffer
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:because of their leader's sin.
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:Someone can benefit because of
their leader's righteousness.
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:So in the same way that because of
David's sin that people suffered, we
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:benefit because of Jesus' victory.
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:We receive his mercy, his grace,
we receive his righteousness.
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:We receive the blessings that come
because we're grafted into Christ.
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:We are in Christ, as the scripture says.
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:That's our union with Christ,
which changes the way that
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:we are seen in God's eyes.
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:So similarly here, you see
the inverse or the converse.
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:I.
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:David's sin leading to sin
falling out upon the people.
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:So guilt is also upon them
because of their leader sin.
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:You also see this with Adam when
Adam sins all of the human race sins,
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:and they're found as sinners in him.
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:This is Romans chapter five, but again,
we can't take issue with this because
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:this is the very same process that gives
us the blessings that we have in Jesus.
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:Yeah, the rest of chapter 24 David is
gonna construct an altar there at the
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:threshing floor of Aruna at the J site.
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:The, there's a variation there in
one Chronicles 21 Aruna iss name
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:there is listed as Orin or Oron.
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:And same person, just different
moniker, different name.
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:And this is gonna be significant because
of what happens in one Chronicles 22,
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:because after David ECTs the altar here in
one Chronicles 22, it's gonna be decided
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:that this is gonna be the very spot
where the temple is going to be built.
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:And so that's where the
Temple Mount is today.
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:It traces all the way back to the
threshing for floor of Una, the Jebe site,
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:which traces all the way back, even before
that time, to the very place called Mount
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:Mariah, which is where where Abraham was
willing to offer up Isaac before the Lord.
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:In fact, that is what we believe
is the place in locale of
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:where the temple was originally
constructed, is above the very rock.
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:That Isaac was laying upon
to be sacrificed to the Lord.
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:Now, if you go to Israel today,
it's the dome of the rock.
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:It's this Islamic shrine that's there.
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:And they would say that this is the
rock, not where Isaac was offered,
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:but where Ishmael was offered.
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:And that's part of the variance
between us and the Islamic faith
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:one among many variants there.
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:But.
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:That's what we're dealing with there.
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:We're dealing with the Temple Mount,
and this is where it comes into being
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:as far as the place where the centrality
of Israel's worship is gonna be from
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:this time until its destruction.
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:First under Nebuchadnezzar, but then
the temple is gonna be rebuilt, and
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a d And since then, we haven't had a
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:Psalm chapter 30 is gonna get into
the dedication psalm for this temple
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:that David is in one Chronicles
22 charging Solomon to build.
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:David knows that he's not gonna be
the one second Samuel chapter seven
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:address, that he's not gonna be
the one to build the house for God.
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:But God promised David that one of his
sons would, and so David commissions
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:And so in so doing, he is going to
prepare a lot of the materials and
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:provide a lot of that to say, Solomon,
here's, I'm giving you everything
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:that you need to do this, and Psalm.
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:30.
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:He not only provided the materials
to David, but also a song to be sung
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recorded for us in Psalm 30.
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this was written to go on ahead of
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:him, so to speak to be sung there
at the dedication of the the temple.
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:And that's what we find
there in Psalm chapter 30.
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:Lemme pray and then we'll
be done with this episode.
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:God, we thank you for your word.
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:In its truthfulness, it's reliability.
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:As we so often pray, even when we see
things where we have to say, okay, we
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:don't know what the numbers discrepancy
is there, we can trust that you do.
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:And that this is not something
that shakes our faith.
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:That we see a common thread, a common
story from beginning to end of our
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:hope and our need for Jesus Christ.
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:And so we are so grateful for
scripture and how it points us
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:to Jesus time and time again.
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:Give us a fruitful time
in your word today.
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:We pray in Jesus name.
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:Amen.
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:Amen.
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:Keep reading your Bibles.
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:I don't know what that was, dude.
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:Talk about sultry voices.
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:Keep reading your Bibles.
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:Keep reading your Bibles.
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:Keep reading your Bibles.
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:Tuning again tomorrow for another
edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.
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:Yeah.
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:I would agree with
everything that you said