Recently, our show has featured a number of different coaches on the show that each have their unique value proposition (and niche!) that allows them to showcase what they have overcome in their journeys to seek out their willingness to help others. Today's guest, owner of RiseUp! Coaching, Kathy Baldwin, has a completely different story to tell as it comes to what she has learned in her over 40+ years of experience helping others to overcome life's "crap" that has been thrown. Priding herself in her ability to harvest the energy levels of individuals with the science and biology behind her methods of helping others, her unique story will leave you with wanting to hear more about how she overcame various trials in her life to become the best version of herself, while also challenging herself consistently to do the same with every client she interacts with. Becoming better is a never-ending process, and no matter who you work with, it's important to not only have a good fit, but to ensure that you create opportunities that will allow you to excel in any occasion that is presented for the rest of your life.

Guest Bio

Kathy’s journey to becoming an expert in the field of coaching has been both deeply personal and universally resonant. It began with her own quest for healing and understanding. Confronted with life’s adversities, she sought not just to cope, but to thrive. Through this pursuit, she uncovered the profound impact of Universal Laws on our everyday lives. She has studied energy healing, psychology, and the timeless wisdom of these laws, applying them first to her own life. The transformation was undeniable; stress became a catalyst for growth, and challenges turned into stepping stones towards success. This personal evolution sparked a passion to guide others on their paths. Kathy realized that her calling was to empower others to navigate their complexities and harness their innate potential, and facilitates transformative journeys, helping individuals and couples not only to resolve their issues but to emerge stronger, more aligned, and with a clearer vision of their desired future.

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Intro/Outro By: Michael Dugan, Podcast Host: Voice4Chefs

Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode

number 140 of Speaking From The Heart.

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Today, we have Kathy Baldwin, and Kathy's

journey to become an expert in the

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field of coaching have been both deeply

personal, and universally resonant.

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It began with her own quest

for healing and understanding.

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Confronted with life's adversities, she

sought not just to cope, but to thrive.

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Through this pursuit, she uncovered

the profound impact of universal

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laws on our everyday lives.

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She studied energy healing, psychology,

and the timeless wisdom of these laws,

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applying them first to her own life.

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The transformation was undeniable.

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Stress became a catalyst for

growth, and challenges turned into

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stepping stones towards success.

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This personal evolution sparked a

passion to guide others on their paths.

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Kathy realized that her calling was

to empower others to navigate their

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complexities and harness their innate

potential and facilitates transformative

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journeys, helping individuals and couples

not only to resolve their issues but to

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emerge stronger, more aligned, and with

a clearer vision of their desired future.

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Now, you might have been noticing

a pattern if you've been following

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me all along on these episodes that

we've had recently, that we've had a

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variety of different types of coaches,

but I find that today's episode's a

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little bit different with this kind

of coach, because Kathy's harnessing

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a lot of the different energies,

passions, and excitements that we have

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had in other guests separately, but

nothing quite like our interview today.

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I think that the question of, "Do you

know who you are?", is really what we try

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to answer in today's episode, while also

understanding that following the rules,

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maybe even taking things into your own

hands, might be the two different types

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of things that you have to ask yourself

if you really want to stay complacent, or

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you want to manifest a change that will

allow you to move forward, but the fact

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that we talk about in this episode about

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systems and ways in which we can get

to the root cause using those systems

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of the reasons why we are held back

into pursuing what we should be

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doing, really makes this special.

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I love that Kathy shares something

about herself and so many other things

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in this episode that I think might even

resonate with you, my listeners, unlike

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any other guests that we've had before.

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It doesn't mean that our

stories are not important.

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Each of the things that I've even shared

on this podcast are an important stepping

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stone towards the greater vision that even

you, yourself, should achieve, but I think

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that putting it all together sometimes,

especially with what our conversation is

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like today, makes a profound difference

in how you're best able to move forward.

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But with that, let's go to the episode.

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All right.

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We're here with Kathy Baldwin.

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Kathy, thanks for sharing

your heart with us today.

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Kathy: Joshua.

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Thank you for sharing your

heart with all of us, too.

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Joshua: Oh, yes.

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I've been doing that for 140

episodes, and I'm so happy to have

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you on this very episode to be able

to do that with you, so, Kathy,

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I have to ask you, starting out.

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Why be a coach?

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I feel like it's always the age old

question when I have coaches on the

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show, but, why be a coach, and that

probably means telling a little bit

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about your story, but I would love

for our audience to hear about it.

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Kathy: I'm going to answer the

question and then I'm going to

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go backwards, if you don't mind.

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Why be a coach?

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Joshua: Absolutely.

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Kathy: Because it's the next right step.

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It's the next step in

my personal evolution.

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I was a normal woman growing up in

the seventies, eighties, nineties.

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I followed all the societal rules

about what I was supposed to be.

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I went into trying to be my authentic

empowered self, while still trying to

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be everything the old world said I was

supposed to be, and I got lost, and

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when you get lost, and you start having

trauma responses like people pleasing,

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and self sabotage, and all of these other

things, hitting glass ceilings, beating

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myself up, eventually, when you're too

strong for too long, I broke, and I had

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a full on breakdown that took me right

down and the medical system, I call it

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offering me pills and platitudes, so

when I healed myself from everything

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that I'd been learning for over 40

years, I realized that not only was

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it irresponsible for me not to lend a

hand for the next person who was in my

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situation, but it was also the way to

keep me safe and secure was to constantly

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living this message by giving it away.

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Joshua: When you had been going

through those tough times that you

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had, what would you say was one of

the more difficult things that you

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had to overcome, and I'm assuming that

maybe there were multiple things, and

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if there wasn't, you can correct me.

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Kathy: Oh.

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There's always multiple things.

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One of the scariest for me

was finding myself on the

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floor, not knowing who I was.

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I did not trust my brain.

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I did not know who I was.

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I was unable to comprehend

the world around me, and I

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felt lost inside my own head.

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It was so scary.

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To lose yourself, when you've been

so strong and you've been the one

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who's figured everything out, and

all of a sudden, you can't figure

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out how to wash your own face.

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That was one of them.

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The other was involving

the medical system.

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I had gone to the doctors

and asked them to help me.

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I was broken.

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I could not function.

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I couldn't stop crying.

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Seriously, I was one of those super women.

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I could do anything, and then all of

a sudden, I couldn't do anything, and

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so when I went to the doctors, they

sent me to a psychiatrist, and the

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psychiatrist sat me down, and he had

me list every single stressor, every

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trauma, everything that had happened

to me in my life, and when I finished

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talking, he wrote on a piece of paper

my pills, sent me the prescriptions,

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said, "I'll see in four months."

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He did not close Pandora's box.

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I left his office and I literally

could feel myself spiral.

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Literally, I could feel myself

losing my brain, and I was scared,

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and I was reaching out to people.

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I had kept my darkness to myself.

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Nobody knew what was

going on in my own head.

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I kept putting on this face

that, "Everything's okay.

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I got it.", and nobody knew what was

going on, so when I was reaching out

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for help, nobody knew that I was in

trouble, and I found myself alone, and

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I found myself in the darkness, and

next thing I know, the police had broken

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down my door, dragged me out of my home,

and put me on a form in the hospital

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under a suicide watch, and I came-

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Joshua: Oh my God.

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Kathy: Yeah.

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I came to.

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I could literally feel my brain start

to come back, and I could watch third

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person that I was starting to retain

and come back to who I was, and so when

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the psychiatrist came to evaluate me,

I said, "I'm okay now.", and he said,

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"What do you mean?", and I told him this

whole situation, and now I'm talking

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like myself and I'm normal again, and he

says, "You're not in trouble right now.?"

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I said, "No.

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It's over.", but that's what that did.

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That's what the medical system did, and

when I went back to that psychiatrist,

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Josh, do you know what he said to

me when I told him what happened?

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He said-

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Joshua: I'm kind of scared to find out.

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Kathy: What he said to me is,

"My role in your recovery is

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to give you the right pills.

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I am not here to help

you on your journey."

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That's what I knew.

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Joshua: Man.

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Kathy: That's what I knew.

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I was literally dealing with life

and death, and if I didn't step

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in and take care of this myself,

then I wasn't going to make it.

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Joshua: You know, hearing this made me

feel like, first off, I'm very fortunate,

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because I had been pushed into a therapist

that really gave a damn, and helped me

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when I started through my journey, and

my listeners know a lot about what my

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journey had been since March of 2020,

even when COVID was happening, this was

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happening for me to get both feet firmly

planted, but I thankfully wasn't pushed

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into a psychiatrist right away, but to

hear you go through this, first off,

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this is what's wrong with society is that

we think that, "Here's this magic pill.

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This will solve all your

problems.", and that's not the case.

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We're actual human beings that

have feelings and emotions.

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I can only imagine what you felt like,

because of the pit of despair that I felt.

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I feel like what you just described

is sort of what I felt, so I

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think it'd be really interesting

to hear for my listeners sake.

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How did you actually crawl through all

these different obstacles then, because

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if the psychiatrist wasn't helping you,

and you were trying to figure this out

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yourself, what did you actually do?

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Kathy: Well, I have been a student

of learning for 40 some odd years.

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I mean, I was one of those curious

people that I wanted to know

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everything, so I was studying neurology.

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I was studying psychology, I was

studying biology, and quantum

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physics, and anything and everything.

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I studied the stock market.

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I literally anything and everything I

studied, and I had been in management

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for a very long time, so I sat down.

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I thought, "Okay.

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I cannot deal with the surface of

this; that's pills and platitudes.

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I need to take my root cause analysis

and I need to work backwards.", and

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so, I ended up becoming an energy

healer, because I realized that one of

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the things that I had learned from Dr.

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Bruce Lipton was that when we change

the environment, we change our cells

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on a DNA level, and so I put that

together with biology and everything.

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I thought, "Okay, so if our central

nervous system is sending off

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hormones and chemicals in our body."

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I don't know if I mentioned this,

but I suffered with fibromyalgia,

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adrenal fatigue, osteoarthritis.

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I've had two knees replaced.

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My body was wrecked, and so

I was able to say, "Okay.

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If all of that is chemical based, and

it's energetically based, then I need to

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get this stuff out of my body.", so I did

all of the healing modalities, but then

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I did the energy healing that released

it, and so I started just one step at a

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time: work on foundation, work on safety,

then work on the next thing, and what

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that psychiatrist did was the greatest

thing in the world for me, because I

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was able to step back into my power.

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It was a long journey.

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It took a lot, but it has

got me where I am today.

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It's what's the basis of my programs.

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It's the basis of everything I stand

for now, but what would happen to

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somebody who didn't go like that?

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What if somebody got broken?

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Joshua: Yeah, and I think finding somebody

that can help you, especially if you are

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on that other side where you are broken.

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I feel like it's a forest, sometimes.

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It made me think of this like mind

picture when you're describing it.

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It's almost like a forest, walking

around, trying to find the end of the

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forest to be able to find civilization,

if you will, and it's not just the

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answers are somewhere out there, but

yet, as you're going along, you're

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finding ways in which you're adapting.

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You're finding ways in which

you're growing, but I'm kind of

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curious then, going back to the

very first question I asked you.

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Why be a coach then, because if you

figured this out, you should be fine.

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You should be happy.

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You're now on the other side.

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Why help others?

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Kathy: First of all, I have a duty and a

responsibility, now that I have learned

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that we are socially disempowered on

purpose, that our whole societal system

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is designed to split us up, to break us.

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It's designed to keep us locked into

a cycle of debt, of consumerism,

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of being workers for a system.

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My healing came about figuring out

who I authentically was, and I like

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to describe it as a food processor, so

you cannot make a food processor work

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until you get it clicked into place.

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Well, when I clicked into place, I

had all the parts, but nothing was

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clicked into place, and as soon as it

clicked into place, and I had my full

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alignment, and I was strong, and I was

the best version of myself I'd ever

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been in my life because I made conscious

decisions, and I made it happen.

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If I'm going to keep that to

myself, what kind of person am I?

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If I'm not going to take this information

and use it to help somebody else, to raise

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the vibration of our world when we are in

such a critical, pivotal time, then that

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doesn't say a lot about the integrity of

the quality of person I am, or anybody

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else, because we are here for a purpose,

every single one of us, and until we get

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into our authenticity, in my belief, until

we get aligned with who we are, and step

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out of societal roles, and societal rules,

we aren't giving our gift to the world.

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This is my gift to the world right now.

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This is the accumulation of everything

that I have done and gone through in

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my life, and except for terrorism or

things like that, there's not a lot of

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stress that I have not gone through.

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There's not a lot of trauma

that I have not gone through.

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There's really very little that

I have not been exposed to and

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learned and had to endure, so,

what am I going to do with that?

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First of all, I have to share, second

of all, the only way to keep me

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safe is to keep me in that cycle of

healing: give, receive, give, receive.

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Joshua: This is a perfect segway because

I was learning so much about what this

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topic was growing up, because I was

dealing with so many different things too.

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Being bullied as a kid, then dealing

with what society had to say about what

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I needed to do financially, socially,

culturally, so you wrote a book,

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and I love the title of this book.

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It's called Unlearn The Crap About

Personal Success and Empowerment, so

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Kathy, I was wondering if you could

talk a little bit about, A, why you

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wrote the book, and B, how does that

play into what you just shared with us?

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Do you give tips about how you

expose that in your own life

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and help others to do the same?

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Kathy: Absolutely.

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I have a gift of being able to take very

complex subjects and break them down

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and create metaphors or ways of people

understanding, and so I go through the

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whole history of how we got where we are,

so you understand that this is societal.

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This is part of a whole,

systematic change that must happen.

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It's not individual, and so when

you understand, "It's not me.

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I didn't fail.

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There's nothing wrong with me.", which

is what we all walk around feeling like,

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then you now have the power to say, "Okay.

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How do I access all that?"

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Well, the book came out of me creating

my program, Drive Your Destiny, which

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is- it was funny, because sorry, I

have to change subjects in order to

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finish that sentence, but I had tried

to explain to somebody once that it

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would be like throwing a person out onto

the road in a car that they had never

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learned to drive and had never driven

in, and now you go, "Go figure it out."

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Well, we have driver's license.

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We have to go through training.

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We have all of these things that we

need to prove that says we know how to

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operate that vehicle, how to land on

the road, how to navigate, but we are

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thrown into our world, and our lives,

without understanding the mechanics

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of our body, the language of our body,

how our central nervous system works,

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how our brains get wired, how all of

this comes about, so we're walking

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around in these bodies and feeling like

a victim of our emotions, instead of

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understanding that they are guiding us.

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When I finished doing the

program, the book was just there.

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It just arrived, and it was funny

because it was one of those moments

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where I didn't plan on writing a

book, and one day it came to me.

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"You're going to write a book and it's

going to be called Unlearn The Crap."

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"Okay."

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Guess that's what I'm doing.

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Joshua: Well, I think we're all

doing that in one way or another.

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Let's face it.

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It is a lot of crap, because of what we've

been told is the right thing to do, isn't

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necessarily the right thing to do for us,

so do you talk about strategies as to how

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we find that authenticity in the book?

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Kathy: Yes.

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One of the biggest things after cutting

the ties to disempowering your path and

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your belief, and cutting the past off,

because we're here in this moment and if

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we're carrying baggage, get rid of it.

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It doesn't belong.

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It has no value in today, except for

what we take from it, so take what works.

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That's one of the things in

the 12 step program says, "Take

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what works and leave the rest."

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Well, if we're going to carry

around things from our past that

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don't work, and all they do is

break us down, get rid of it.

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We clean our closets.

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We clean everything, but

we don't clean our brains.

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We don't clean our hearts,

so that's the first thing.

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The second thing is understanding

that the universal laws are

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not airy, fairy concepts.

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They are actually the way we navigate

in this world, and if you understand

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how they work, like you understand

gravity, then you're not going to be

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beating yourself up against walls,

because you're going to understand that

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those rules are there to guide you,

so if you hit a wall, turn around and

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go the other way, and you can't know

that until you know how the rules work.

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I love teaching this because as soon

as I tell people, they're like, "I've

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never heard this in my whole entire life.

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How is this possible?", and then the

third thing- this will blow you away.

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When you begin a business, or you

work in a company, there's a vision.

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There's a mission statement.

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There's a value statement.

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There are rules of culture and everything.

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Does anyone ever been told you

get to do that for yourself?

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What's your vision?

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What are your values, and if these are

your values, these are the beliefs you

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need to have to have those values, and now

you can create yourself, your identity,

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instead of it just haphazardly coming

about by whatever life threw at you.

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You get to choose.

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You get to create, because we're here to

create, and so, boundaries become really

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easy when it's tied to identity, because

it's either who I am or who am I not.

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There's no question about what

you're going to do, because you

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have your identity centered, and

we're not taught how to do that.

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We're not taught any of the stuff.

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We're taught how to get along in society.

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We're taught how to go through school

and get the right answer, or we're judged

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and we're told we're not conforming,

and then there's something wrong with us

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because we don't fit into this little box.

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Well thank God there's people

who don't fit in the box because

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that's what's evolving our world.

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Joshua: That last part.

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It was exactly what I was thinking is that

if we didn't have those people that were

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looking outside the box and like, "Oh.

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Everybody's running around."

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I almost think of it as an ant farm.

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I don't know if he had one of these

as a kid, but I did where he had like

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this- oh, don't give me that look.

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I'm sorry; for my listeners.

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Kathy's like, "Nuh uh.

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I'm not having ants near me.", but

no, seriously, if you think about it.

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Ant farms.

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It was one of those green things, and

then the ants you would put in with the

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sand and they would burrow around, so

they were be stuck in these confines.

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I feel like we're those ants kind of

walking around, burrowing around, trying

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to make our own path, but in reality,

the freedom was outside that ant farm,

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so I want to be outside the ant farm,

not inside of it, so sorry, not to

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make a disgusting reference, but that's

really what I felt was really appropriate

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with saying that is I think that we

have to be thinking outside the box.

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Kathy: Absolutely, because

we didn't build the box.

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It's not our box.

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Joshua: Yes.

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Yes.

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Kathy: This came about through the

Industrial Revolution when they

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figured out how to automate, how to

make things replicatable, how to make

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things conform and be repeatable, and

so the only way to have that industrial

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revolution was to create a public

school system that created people who

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were duplicatable and replicatable

and being able to fit into that role.

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Well, that's not what

human beings are for.

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We're not plastic.

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Joshua: Yes.

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We're not.

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We're human tissue, and we all learn

in different ways, because of the

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fact that we were all born uniquely

different for that matter too.

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Kathy: Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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Joshua: You said something that struck me

about learning how to drive, and learning

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about riding around in a car, because I

was thinking about the fact that I grew

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up in the age of driving in automatics.

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My first car was a 1990 Dodge

Spirit by the way, and my

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mom had it for so many years.

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I had it for so many years.

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We actually sold the car for about two,

300 bucks to somebody else, which then

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that was their ultimate demise, but

that car lasted forever, and for other

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people, they never learn in an automatic.

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They learn stick shift, so how do you,

especially since your coaching business,

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which by the way, I didn't even mention

yet what your coaching business is.

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It's Rise Up Coaching.

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That's the name of it, correct?

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Kathy: That's correct.

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Joshua: And so with your coaching

with Rise Up, how do you distinguish

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between those that are stick shift,

and those that are automatic?

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In other words, how do you deal with

people that are different based on what

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they've learned in the past, so how do you

break that down to help find that purpose?

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I like to call it purpose, but

you called it their mission,

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their vision, their values.

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I call it purpose, but same principle.

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Kathy: I don't.

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That's not my job.

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My job is to help them

figure it out for themselves.

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I am not going to be part of that

old system that says, "This is

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how you do it, and these are the

techniques, and follow this system,

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and do this breathing this way."

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No!

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We all have it inside of us.

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It's up to us to bring it

out, and so I create safety.

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I create a place where people can

authentically see themselves, and

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reach in, because every time someone

pulls out a little bit more of

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themselves, by themselves, now they're

learning how to have their own power.

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Joshua: That was a trick question, and

I'm so glad that you caught right on,

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because I don't feel like our job is to

lead people on a system of, "These is my

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steps.", and it's so sad because I see

other coaches do this, and I'm not saying

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that it's a bad thing, but when they are

up in the front of a room, or they're

391

with a client, and they're saying, "You

must do this or you're not a good person."

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I feel like that's where we have all this

trauma that comes from churches, that

393

comes from schools, that comes from bad

people that just didn't have all their

394

S H I T together, which I promised you I

wasn't going to swear, but I had to spell

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it, because it's so, so sad when people

are just stuck in that system, and I

396

feel that that was what was my story for

so long, so I'm so happy to hear that.

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You're like one of the first

few people that have said, "No.

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They're going to figure it

out, but not on my terms.

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It's going to be on their terms."

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Kathy: And that's why I'm a coach.

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Joshua: Yes.

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Kathy: That's why.

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I have this vision that as we all

step into our authentic selves,

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and you know, in our dreams,

that's our soul talking to us.

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It's our soul guiding us, and so you may

have it in your translation as a house

406

or a car, but anyone who goes after the

house or the car, or whatever it is, and

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they get there and they think they're

going to achieve what they want by

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getting it, they're always disappointed.

409

Our soul talks to us in the

language we know, which is for you

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to become who you're meant to be.

411

This is the path you need to go.

412

You need to go for the mansion.

413

You need to go for the Mercedes, whatever

it is, because that is going to get

414

you to where your gifts come out, and

the car, the house, all of it, just

415

becomes a reminder of who you've evolved

into, and now you can take the next

416

step, and the next evolution, and the

next step, and it all becomes joyful.

417

Joshua: It does, and all of it is so

important that when we go through,

418

and I've said this a few times on

the show too, about being in those

419

valleys, sometimes you have to also

be climbing up those mountains, but

420

nothing was given to us as being easy,

so if things were given to you easily,

421

you're going to have a difficult life.

422

I feel like it's so hard to be

able to achieve when you don't

423

have all those necessary tools.

424

I kind of think of it as your

toolkit, your tool belt, having

425

around you, you need to have the

right tool for the right time.

426

Kathy: Can I interrupt first, because I

want to challenge something you just said.

427

Joshua: Go ahead.

428

Kathy: You're okay with that?

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Joshua: Absolutely.

430

Please do.

431

Kathy: Okay, so for me,

it's not about tools.

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It's about understanding and knowledge.

433

We live in a universal law of rhythm.

434

That's one of the twelve universal laws.

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Rhythm states that everything

is constantly in motion.

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Everything has cycles.

437

Everything has a rhythm,

so we have seasons.

438

We have cycles of day and night.

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We have sleep and wake cycles.

440

Every part of our life is in cycle.

441

So many times, people think that

when they're at a different part of

442

the cycle, that there's something

wrong and they need to fix it.

443

Well, what if you had this belief

that you're never supposed to sleep?

444

You would fall apart and you would break.

445

It's part of the cycle, so when we are

evolving, when we're building, when

446

we're growing, sometimes we're going

to be at the opposite end of creation.

447

Think about it like a figure eight,

or the infinity sign, which is how my

448

hands are moving every time I talk about

this, but if you understand that there's

449

rhythms and movement and you can look

at where you are, and you don't have to

450

beat yourself up that you're not there.

451

It's like, "Oh!

452

I'm in winter.

453

I'm in fall.

454

I'm in sleep cycle.

455

I'm in rest and rejuvenate."

456

That means that you need to do

something, learn something, take

457

care of something in that moment,

and then you'll go to the next step.

458

The seasons will come.

459

Joshua: Yeah.

460

I can see that, and in being able to

live in that moment, I think that it's

461

okay just to be able to embrace it.

462

I think you're right.

463

I think that we're often are built,

so yeah, I have to withdraw my

464

toolbox comment, or my tool belt

comment, because of that, so yeah.

465

Thanks for correcting me.

466

I like that.

467

Kathy: That's okay.

468

I would love to have a whole

conversation with you one day about

469

all of the universal laws and how

they work because it's so fascinating.

470

Joshua: Yeah.

471

I would love that.

472

I've had a few guests on the show

that I've talked about the universal

473

energies, the universal team, just

that whole subject matter is something

474

that's always a fascination to me.

475

Kathy: I bring it back into science and

biology, so that it's not airy fairy.

476

It's not woo woo.

477

Joshua: Yeah.

478

Yeah.

479

Oh, yeah.

480

No, you don't want it to be that.

481

Absolutely, because it'll be, "Well.

482

Wait.

483

What are you saying?", so

we don't want that either.

484

You want to bring it to reality.

485

There's one last question I have for

you, which is something that is on your

486

website that really stood out to me.

487

It says, and this is talking

about the Unlearn The Crap

488

book that you have written.

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Part of it says, "Your discomfort

is a glorious sign of growth,

490

expansion, and possibilities."

491

Kathy: Yeah.

492

Joshua: Are you still

living in discomfort, Kathy?

493

Are you trying to live a life where you're

continuing to grow and expand and have

494

unlimited potential and possibilities?

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What is it that you're working on?

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Kathy: Oh, what am I not working on?

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I have so much going on because

the more that I have developed and

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created out of myself, the more I

find I have and I want to do, so

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I'm working on the next two books.

500

I'm writing a book called Unlearn The

Crap About Stress And Burnout, because

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that is our biggest sign that we are out

of alignment, and so many times people

502

think, "Just deal with the stress."

503

Well, no, you got a root cause there.

504

Let's get to the root cause, because

that stress is a signal, it's your

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body talking to you, so I've got

that that I'm working on right now.

506

I'm part of a docuseries.

507

I'm part of Voices of 100 Women program.

508

I'm working on a TV show that I'm going

to be doing, but my passion is this

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Drive Your Destiny program where I can

help other people bring their joy, their

510

bliss, their gift to the world, because

I don't know if I should say this to a

511

man, but I'm going to say it anyways.

512

Joshua: Oh, you're not

just saying it to a man.

513

You're saying it to my

listeners, so feel free.

514

Kathy: Okay.

515

Well, hopefully nobody

gets offended by this.

516

We've lived in a patriarchal society

for so long where everything has been

517

about control, and power, and taking

people down, and it is time for women

518

and femininity, which is one of the

universal laws of gender, and bring

519

balance back to the world, where we're

back to creativity and innovation, and

520

we're back to all of those amazing things

that make us human, because AI is coming.

521

It's here.

522

Automation is happening.

523

We are going to be out of jobs that

are repeatable and can be done by a

524

computer, but a computer will never

come up with creativity and innovation

525

and all of those things that make us

human, so that gives us the opportunity

526

right now that to seize this moment and

really all come to our best version.

527

Imagine how the world would

change if every single person was

528

living their best life, and just

giving their gifts to the world.

529

Joshua: I'm glad you said that, by

the way, because I agree with you, I'm

530

just going to leave it at that because

that's a strong statement to end with.

531

Kathy, I want to give

you the last few minutes.

532

We're out of time, but before we wrap

up, how can people reach out to you

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if they're interested in being coached

with Rise Up Coaching with you, how

534

would they be able to get in contact?

535

How can they find out more information?

536

How can they pick up Unlearn The

Crap, which I also put a link in

537

the episode notes, by the way, with

the book, but maybe you have another

538

alternative that maybe they can

provide too, so I'm going to give you

539

the last few minutes to do all that.

540

Kathy: Thank you very much.

541

Okay, so Unlearn The Crap

can be bought at Amazon.

542

It's in every currency.

543

22.22.

544

That is a numerical number that

means that you are on the right path,

545

that you are doing the right next

step for you, so it's a numerical

546

number that's very passionate to me.

547

The Kindle version is 2.22,

so nobody can not afford it.

548

Go and learn about what your individual

power is, so that's on Amazon.

549

In my coaching program, you can

find me at riseupcoaching.io.

550

I have my website unlearnthecrap.com.

551

There's lots there as well.

552

I'm on all social medias, whether you

find me through Kathy Baldwin, or Rise

553

Up Coaching, or Unlearn the Crap, any

of those hashtags or whatever, you'll

554

find me, and I believe there's a gift

in the show notes that you're going to

555

share that I have a gift for everyone,

which is a quiz, and that quiz is to

556

help you figure out how at risk you are

for burnout, because one of my missions

557

is we have too many success stories of

people who have hit rock bottom, and lost

558

everything, and then found their success.

559

I don't think we all need to

lose everything and hit rock

560

bottom to hit our success.

561

If I can catch someone halfway

through and say, "Oh, look!

562

You're about to fall.", and they

catch and now we heal, that's my

563

dream, so I do have that quiz.

564

I wish someone had been able to catch

me before I fell, but I accept that

565

that was my journey, but I am here

because I'm here to help people,

566

and I want them to reach out to me.

567

Joshua: I hope they do, because I have

always said on this show, although I'm

568

a coach, not all coaches are created

equally, so if you're attracted to

569

what Kathy has said today, I highly

encourage you to reach out to her.

570

I will have the free gift that

Kathy's mentioned also in the episode

571

notes, so you can go check that out,

along with her book, along with her

572

website, along with her social media.

573

Oh!

574

I ran out of breath.

575

Kathy.

576

Kathy: I have one question for

you, Josh, if you don't mind-

577

Joshua: Absolutely.

578

Before we go.

579

Yes.

580

Kathy: How many coaches do you have?

581

Joshua: Hmm.

582

Good question.

583

Kathy: Because coaches need coaches.

584

We all need help.

585

Joshua: We do, and I've been fortunate

enough that when I started, I had a coach

586

by the name of Gary, and Gary had to

move on to other projects, but Gary was

587

a instrumental start for my business, and

what's funny is that although I wouldn't

588

say I have a quote unquote coach, the

coaches that I have are actually the

589

family, friends and other people that

have seen what my vision is, and have

590

continued to surround me and say, "I

see the worthiness in you, Josh, and

591

I want you to keep doing what you're

doing, and here's how I can help."

592

Those have been some amazing people,

but even now, I'm in this point in my

593

life where I definitely am looking for a

coach, and wanting to be lifted to a whole

594

new level myself, because even for that

matter, coaching is so important to be

595

able to do, so that's a great question.

596

I appreciate you asking that.

597

Kathy: Well, I want to take away

the negative association with a

598

coach, because every superstar in

every part of the world has coaches.

599

They have coaches for every part of their

lives, so, that is one of the things that

600

we need to unlearn the crap about, is that

we're supposed to go in alone, that we're

601

supposed to know everything, and if we

don't, there's something wrong with us.

602

Joshua: Absolutely, and I appreciate you

saying that because I feel that we need to

603

reclaim the fact that everyone deserves,

and is entitled, to having a coach.

604

I think that we often think that we can't

afford it, or we're not privileged enough

605

to have it, or, "I'm already doing fine.

606

Why would I need somebody?"

607

Well, you might be surprised

what you find out, and Kathy,

608

for all those reasons, thanks for

being on Speaking From The Heart.

609

I hope that people reach out to

continue to break the mold, to continue

610

being their authentic selves, and I

appreciate you being your authentic

611

self on this podcast episode today.

612

Kathy: Thank you.

613

Joshua: I want to thank Kathy again

for being part of the show, and even

614

as I continuously say on this show

about why I have the guests that

615

I have, one thing remains clear.

616

No matter what you might think about

what we have been through in our lives,

617

no matter what you try to do to achieve

what that best vision is of your life,

618

becoming authentic in your own nature

through relationships, confidence and

619

determination, which go all the way back

to the very beginning of this podcast,

620

remember that following the rules

might not always be your best friend.

621

What we're trying to gain from this,

and what we're trying to gain from

622

the obstacles that we might face

in our life, mean that we have to

623

understand that breakdowns are okay.

624

It doesn't mean that we have to be

feeling this inadequacy, or feeling like

625

we have to massively medicate ourselves.

626

Those are the jobs of the psychiatrists

and therapists that might need to

627

help you in the greatest time of need.

628

That's what makes therapists and

psychiatrists different from,

629

say, coaches, mentors, people that

are there that want to manifest

630

the dreams and aspirations of

what you're trying to achieve.

631

These two intersections sometimes

are great, and we've had many guests,

632

like Jenny Jansen recently, talking

about these aspects in her own therapy

633

and coaching practice, but Kathy's

approach is like any other type

634

of opportunity that you can have.

635

It's allowing you to see that the energies

around you, the people you surround

636

yourself with, and the opportunities

that present themselves, all accumulate

637

into opportunities of finding out that

overarching question of who you are.

638

If you keep that darkness, that feeling

of being lost around you, of course

639

it's not going to pan out very well.

640

Kathy even talked about it today,

about why it's so important

641

to not be in that space.

642

Sometimes taking things into your

own hands, even if you feel that it

643

might not be the best way to move

forward, can still help you build

644

that value, helping to figure out what

are the best ways to move it forward.

645

Now let's be real, hiring someone to help

you along the way, to be that partner

646

in crime by your side, which I think

coaches can be can help you get to the

647

root cause analysis that you're trying

to conduct of why you're going through

648

some of the things that you're going

through to help you to better gain clarity

649

and focus into a positive direction.

650

It's not necessarily a pep talk every

single time like somebody else, like

651

a football coach or a baseball coach

might do, especially if the game

652

is going very badly for your team.

653

This is about figuring out, are the

things that you're doing working, and

654

are there better ways to approach it?

655

Dr.

656

Jim Salvucci, Navi Bliss, some of the

more recent guests have even talked about

657

a variety of different ways, whether

it's just doing it, to finding love,

658

all of them have unique perspectives.

659

To even figure out how we get

through this breaking of the cycle

660

means that we have to split those

ideas that we have about ourselves.

661

What kind of person do you want to be?

662

How does that align with where

you actually want to achieve?

663

Figuring out the metaphor of life, as

Kathy would even describe it as, helps

664

us to understand where we need to get to.

665

It's almost like driving a car.

666

We know that we need to get out at certain

stops in order to stretch our legs,

667

especially if it's a long road trip, to

get to where we need to be, especially

668

when I've even talked about in a previous

episode, of that cross country adventure,

669

which I encourage you to go check that

out because it is a lot of opportunity for

670

us to take pit stops and get to know each

other, but now let's focus on ourselves.

671

Let's focus on what might work if

we just are able to split the atom.

672

If we can just understand how that works,

how we can get that manifestation of

673

the energies that we have surrounding

ourselves, which even past guests

674

even last year on our show like Bri

DiDino has talked about, can help us to

675

move towards that positive direction.

676

If you figure out how to clear

your heart, and how to clear your

677

mind of all the toxicity, and

you choose what your boundaries

678

are, I know that you can do this.

679

I know I can believe in you, but

you have to find the right system

680

that's paired with the safety

to create that manifestation.

681

Now, I have to pause, and even talk about

why that's so important from the context

682

of what even Kathy has shared and what

I have shared even in previous episodes.

683

It's not just about understanding

how that all connects together.

684

It's not about saying things that are

terrible about another person, and

685

making them feel like crap, and even

saying to yourself that you need to

686

distance yourself from that person.

687

Maybe they have a point.

688

That's one thing yet on this show that

we haven't really explored, which is why

689

is it that that person is saying some

of the nasty things that they're saying?

690

Now, truth be told, maybe some of

the things that they are complaining

691

about, that they are discussing,

are not healthy manifestations.

692

Maybe they're not productive overall,

because we have the things that we have

693

going on in our lives, the reactions

that we're receiving might be valid,

694

but the point is, is that if you're

not able to distinguish between what

695

is really fact and fiction, which we

have even talked about what is a story

696

and what is really a fact, how are you

ever going to figure out that growth?

697

You might try to do it,

but is it really working?

698

If you've been hitting roadblocks over

and over again, you need to figure

699

a way that is much better than what

you're working on today, and that is

700

why developing a system, regardless

if it's something that has been well

701

established, or if it's something else,

can make such a profound difference in

702

how you're able to best move forward.

703

It's how you're able to achieve some

of the best things that you have

704

yet to achieve in your entire life.

705

It's allowing you to have your soul guide

you into the direction that you want to

706

achieve; where you really want to go in

your own car that you're driving, but

707

let's face it, that car will break down.

708

Your soul will be depressed.

709

There will be things that will happen in

your life that will challenge the status

710

quo that will knock you off your feet.

711

Those are the ebbs and flows,

or the rhythms and cycles as

712

Kathy had put it, that put us

into a different type of cycle.

713

Something that we normally

try to overcome, but we

714

can't quite do on our own.

715

Nothing might be able to be worked

through, because you either have the

716

wrong impression as to what you might

think is the right thing to do, or you're

717

just completely off, because someone has

pushed you off to the side, and has not

718

made you the best version of yourself.

719

It is about getting to the root cause.

720

It's about building that strength,

that consistency, that passion, that

721

ongoing accountability that you can

self check yourself, which ideally,

722

that is where we're ultimately going

in this conversation, but what if you

723

don't have the best support system?

724

I've been blessed for over a year and

a half to have a variety of different

725

people that have come through my

business, and I have seen it all.

726

From the people that had the reach

deep inside of themselves to find

727

the courage to divorce people, remove

themselves from family members, or even

728

overcome stereotypes or thoughts that

are negative in nature, to realize that

729

they have gifts to share to this world,

but sometimes that car that they've

730

been driving in needs to be tuned up.

731

Sometimes the soul that we have inside

of ourselves, needs to be revisited.

732

Even though they have been following

the rules of what they thought

733

society asked them to do, society

told them a completely different

734

story instead, and led them astray.

735

That is where a coach can help provide

guidance and clarity, but we have

736

the ultimate responsibility, if I

dare say so myself being a coach

737

myself, that we need to be careful

about how we go about that process.

738

We need to be careful about

how we address ourselves.

739

How we create that best version.

740

How we guide our clients, because

if we lead them astray, not only

741

are they going to be mad at us,

we will be disappointed ourselves.

742

That is where training, training,

training comes into play.

743

I don't know about you, but we've

had so many different people share

744

their stories over the course

of this whole entire process.

745

It's been over a year of many different

guests, many different perspectives

746

that I've provided, over the course of

140 episodes to get to where we're at.

747

Has it really helped you?

748

Has it shown you that you don't

have to walk in the darkness

749

all by yourself anymore?

750

Has it helped you to realize that you

can split yourself from those thought

751

patterns, those manifestations of negative

energy, the people that have been the

752

past version of yourself, the things that

you idealize, or idolize for that matter,

753

into metaphors, and positive affirmations,

and transformations, that allow you to

754

lead into a life that could either create

multi million dollars of fame and fortune,

755

or even having better relationships with

people that you always wanted, but it

756

all started with each and every one of

my guests about having a system, and

757

that system identifies with who they are.

758

If you don't know what that system

looks like, reach out to me.

759

Reach out to my guest.

760

Reach out to any one of

my guests for that matter.

761

There are plenty of episodes that there

are plenty of people that have gone

762

through even trials and tribulations, and

would be happy to share what they have

763

been through, but do me a favor today.

764

Stop putting it off,

because it is your soul.

765

It is the rhythm that

you beat to on your drum.

766

It is the way in which you start your car.

767

If you keep on running that car for

many, many miles, and don't look under

768

the hood every once in a while, are you

really doing yourself a service of helping

769

yourself to feel appreciated, loved, and

valued, both physically and mentally?

770

What are you waiting for?

771

Are you waiting for that

breakdown to happen?

772

Are you waiting to feel sad and all alone,

or, maybe you just need that extra push,

773

because you are doing the right things.

774

Regardless of where your stance is at.

775

Regardless of what your background is,

just know, that you have everything,

776

and everything I mean, to make this

happen, just like my guest Kathy has,

777

because regardless of any universal

laws, regardless of any transformation,

778

regardless of the things that you take

in your own hands, I promise you, there

779

are greater rewards that lie ahead.

780

Those are the treasures, regardless

of whether you think it's gold or not,

781

that will help you become the best

version of yourself, in the personal

782

and professional struggles that you go

through, not just on a daily basis, or

783

a weekly basis, or a monthly basis, or

even a yearly basis, but in any time

784

period that you can think of, it will help

you see who you can ultimately become.

785

A person that is loved, respected, cared,

and appreciated in more ways than one.

786

Thanks for listening to episode

number 140 of Speaking From the

787

Heart, and I look forward to

hearing from your heart, very soon.

788

Outro: Thanks for listening.

789

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790

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791

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792

services that can help you create

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793

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