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In this inaugural episode of 'Pull Up, Speak Up' from “A Black Executive Perspective Podcast”, host Tony Tidbit and Chris P. Reed engage in a candid roundtable discussion with guests Sandy Giusti, Bryan Mullen, and Alyssa Maglione about the aftermath of the 2024 U.S. presidential election They explore voter reactions, discuss the perceived impact of corporate greed, and debate the reasons behind the changing demographics in support of Trump. The conversation touches on critical issues like the economy, immigration, and the role of misinformation. The panel also shares personal stories and insights, emphasizing the need for empathy, education, and open dialogue to move forward as a nation.


▶︎ In This Episode

00:00: Introduction and Opening Remarks

00:27: Welcome to Pull Up, Speak Up

00:46: Meet the Hosts and Partners

01:22: Introducing Today's Discussion

01:52: Guest Introductions

04:03: Why Join the Conversation?

05:59: Ground Rules for Discussion

07:45: Initial Reactions to the Election

13:13: Analyzing Campaign Strategies

16:21: Economic Concerns and Campaign Messaging

23:09: Surprising Voter Demographics

31:07: Impact of Racism, Sexism, and Xenophobia

39:50: Civil Rights and Moral Standards

41:23: Controversial Trials and Convictions

42:12: Political Strategies and Failures

43:36: Public Perception and Media Influence

46:43: The Role of Background Checks in Politics

49:13 Voter Beliefs and Misinformation

53:50: Transgender Issues in Politics

01:02:14: Future Political Engagement and Education

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Sandy Hill Giusti: Here's where I

differ a little bit, and maybe I'm

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uneducated, it's clearly possible.

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Um, I don't think prices are

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So,

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so, prices are high

because of corporate greed.

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And who they just in, uh, in elected

is only going to support corporations.

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BEP Narrator: The award winning a black

executive perspective podcast presents

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pull up, speak up where meaningful

conversations, drive progress, and

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every voice makes a difference.

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So what's on the table

for discussion today.

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Tony Tidbit: It's time to show

up, speak up and get real.

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Welcome to pull up, speak up a

new series from a black executive

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perspective, podcast, your safe

space for raw unfiltered and honest

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discussions on the tough issues.

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Many shy away from I'm

your host, Tony tidbit,

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Chris P. Reed: and I'm

your cohost, Chris P.

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Reed.

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We always start off our program

by giving a shout out to our

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partners at Code M Magazine.

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Tony Tidbit: Definitely check them out.

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And today our round table discussion will

be on the aftermath of the:

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Our guests, Sandy Giusti.

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Bryan Mullen and Alyssa Maglione will

share their candid thoughts on the

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outcome, voter reactions, and what it

all means for the nation moving forward.

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We're going to dive into the

emotion, the surprises, and the

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lessons learned exploring the impact

on communities and the broader

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social and political landscape.

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Chris P. Reed: So Sandy, Bryan, Alyssa,

welcome to pull up and speak up.

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I want to ask some questions for you

guys, and I did an alphabetical order.

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So nobody feels slighted, but, uh, Alyssa,

can you tell us a little more about

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where you're currently residing, uh,

your family and your area of business?

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Alyssa Maglione: Yeah, sure.

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Um, so I live in Massachusetts, I'm

born and raised and, and right outside

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of Boston and I live in Linfield now.

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Um, I am, as I like to say,

the CEO of my household.

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That is my current job.

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I have two little boys, four and two

years old, so they keep me quite busy.

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Um, and, but I am formally in,

from the digital advertising world.

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So, um, I spent many, many years

there before I left to take care

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of my daughter, who, um, three

years ago passed away of cancer.

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So I'm still, though, just

running the household.

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Chris P. Reed: Okay, cool.

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And Bryan, tell us about where you reside

and your family and your area of business.

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Bryan Mullen: Sure, Chris.

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I live on the Upper

West Side of Manhattan.

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I've been here about eight years,

born and raised New Yorker.

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Um, divorced father of

three adult children.

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They're my Children, but they're

adults, and they teach me a lot.

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And right now I'm unofficially

retired and loving it.

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Chris P. Reed: And Sandy, you batting.

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And clean up.

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Sandy Hill Giusti: Thanks.

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Thanks for having me on too.

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Um, so I am in Burlington, Massachusetts.

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I've been here about 24 years.

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Originally from Rochester,

New York, but I came here to

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college in 1982 and never left.

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I have a 25 year old daughter and a

husband, and I currently am an executive

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assistant in a private equity firm.

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Tony Tidbit: Well, welcome guys.

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We really appreciate it.

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We're excited to hear your thoughts

on what we're going to go over today.

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So the question I have is,

Sandy, I'm going to speak.

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to you on this, right?

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You know, obviously, um,

there's a lot of emotion.

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There's a lot of things have been going on

since the:

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You guys have a busy schedule.

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You have families, you're working.

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So the question I have for

you, which I will ask everyone,

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but I'm gonna start with you.

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Why did you want to come

on, pull up, speak up?

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Um,

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Sandy Hill Giusti: I think it's, it's

always been my opinion that the reason we

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are in the situation we are in is because

we don't talk about politics and religion.

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It's because we've been raised

to make those taboo subjects.

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And I believe by not talking

about them, it further divides.

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Folks on any religion,

politics, pretty much any topic.

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So I think the more that you can

have civil conversations about

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things, even if you disagree,

that's how you come together.

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Tony Tidbit: Awesome.

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Alyssa.

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Alyssa Maglione: Yeah,

that's so well said.

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We really have been raised

to not talk about politics.

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I mean, it's everywhere right now

with Thanksgiving coming next week.

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It's anywhere you look.

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It's like, don't bring up politics.

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Don't bring up politics because,

you know, it's going to divide

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your Thanksgiving dinner table.

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And I don't, I don't agree with that.

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I wanted to come on because I really

think we need to talk about what is

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happening in this country, but also just

how we feel about it and, and without

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judging anybody for it and trying to hear

each side of the coin and just try to.

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Try to find some sort of, you know,

unity in the thoughts that we have.

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Tony Tidbit: And then Bryan

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Bryan Mullen: yeah, it's real simple.

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Tony and I worked together at

direct TV before he started.

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I might've been Warner brothers.

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Actually, he started a

weekly or bi weekly session.

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I was always afraid to join

these sessions because I felt.

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If my opinions were not agreed with,

there might be consternation or problems,

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but what I saw through those efforts

was that it was okay to speak your mind

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and actually good to speak your mind.

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There are other people

that agreed with you.

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Um, it became a, it was a

positive versus a negative.

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Chris P. Reed: So before we get too deep

in it, as a reminder to our audience

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and panelists, we'd 10 ground rules.

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For the BEP round table discussion.

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So I'll share those with you guys.

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Rule number one, respect all voices.

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Rule number two, listen actively.

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Number three, no personal attacks folks.

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Number four, avoid

interrupting wherever possible.

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I know it might get emotional

and kind of heated, but make sure

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we wait for the other person to

finish speaking before we jump in.

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Uh, you might want to

take notes in that part.

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Um, number five, stay open minded.

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You guys have all expressed the

idea of being open minded helps

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to generate this type of dialogue

in this learning environment.

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Number six, speak from

your own experiences.

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Make sure that you're personalizing

what you're saying and not what

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you thought you heard or somebody

told you happened on the internet.

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On some kind of platform and

then number seven, stay on topic.

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Number eight, follow our time limits.

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You know, we have a little bit of time

to talk about a lot, a lot of stuff.

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So let's make sure that we do everything

we can to try to stay on task here.

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Number nine, challenge ideas, not people

make sure we're not doing the personal

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attacks and things of that nature.

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And then finally, number

10, no buts, right?

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Please refrain from using the word, but

in your responses, when someone says, I

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understand your point, but it tends to

diminish, you know, the effectiveness of

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what that person was trying to convey.

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And those 10 rules will help us have

a very safe and serene environment

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to have this type of dialogue.

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Tony Tidbit: All right, guys.

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So you guys agree with the ground rules?

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Please show a thumbs up.

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Right.

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Okay.

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Excellent, buddy.

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Actually.

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All right.

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So now this is a safe space.

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So pull up, speak up.

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Let's talk about it.

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Chris P. Reed: So I wanted to

open the discussion with you guys.

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And since I was in alphabetical order

and got a chance to go, Bryan, it's your

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turn to go first with this question.

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What were your thoughts during

the election cycle and how did

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they align with your impression?

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After the results came out.

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Bryan Mullen: Yeah, I was, I was probably

over involved the last couple of weeks.

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I was consuming a lot of social

media and traditional cable news.

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I was watching CNN for the most part,

and they would have roundtables.

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And I was really emotionally

invested in the Harris campaign.

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I had my own opinions about

what they could do better.

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Obviously.

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You know, they do what they do.

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I had some real concerns about

the money that was spent.

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There's so many, like a billion dollars

raised, some absurd amount of money.

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And I felt, I felt, I was cautiously

optimistic, but I felt that them attacking

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Trump all the time, nonstop, um, sort

of, sort of, uh, not exaggerating.

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They didn't exaggerate.

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He said what he said, it was all on video.

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Um, but they were just focused on the

negative nature of him personally,

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and I felt that that was a mistake,

that they needed to really talk about

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ideas, like what electing Kamala

Harris would mean for me, or, you know.

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My neighbor.

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Um, when, when the results

came out, I was sad.

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I did the exact opposite.

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I've stopped consuming media about it.

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It's too sad.

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I'm obviously disappointed.

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I'm a progressive.

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Um, I supported Bernie

Sanders in 16 and in 20.

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But my, what's happened to me is I've

withdrawn from the dialogue about it.

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I don't want to hear other

people talking about it.

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I'm, I'm very disgusted

at how it was done.

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And now the aftermath, the finger

pointing all this stuff like I'm actually

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getting mad now talking about it.

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Like, these people who had terrible

ideas before were on television

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talking about it and they made money.

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and now it's after the Election and

they're telling us what was done wrong.

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Well, they were part of the

whole process of the last people.

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I'm going to listen to is them.

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Chris P. Reed: So same

question to you, Sandy.

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What were your thoughts during the

election cycle and how they align with

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your impressions after results came about?

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Sandy Hill Giusti: Well, I'm going to

agree with a lot of what Bryan just said.

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Um, but to add my own input, um, I

never thought Donald Trump would won,

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would win, never in a million years.

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I, I, I just couldn't see, I had a lot

more faith in people and how people

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feel, how people feel about other

people than what, than what happened.

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Um, I, again, I also, after the, after,

as the results were coming out, I, and

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previous, I was taking in a lot of media.

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I was watching everything.

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And then since then, it says the woman

who just said, we need to talk about it.

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I stopped consuming all the media as well,

just because I, I don't see a way forward.

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I don't see a peaceful way forward.

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I'm also full of hope.

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And I think that in general.

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Humanity will do the right thing.

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Chris P. Reed: And then lastly,

Alyssa, same thing for you

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during the election cycle.

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Did they align with your

impression of the outcome?

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Alyssa Maglione: Um, yeah, so I also

was consuming a tremendous amount

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of media leading up to the election.

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I think I started well, before a couple of

weeks before a month before I started 107

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days before when Kamala Harris was clearly

going to be the Democratic nominee.

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Um, That alone filled me with

so much hope, just the fact that

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we were going to have this woman

be our, the Democratic nominee.

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It just gave me so much hope and,

and for the future of our country.

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And then definitely leading up to

the election, there was just so,

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I mean, the amount of information

that we were all consuming.

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I don't remember there ever being

a time in my life that I've ever

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consumed this much information.

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Um, And like Bryan and Sandy, I

agree with so much of what they say

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about, you know, there were things

that I, um, that, that I, I wish the

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Harris campaign had done differently.

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Um, but, but with that said, I, like

Sandy said, never in a million years.

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Did I think that she would lose?

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I, I just had my fundamental

belief that people are good

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and see good and want good.

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Was just like, that's just the

way it was going to be like,

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this is what's going to happen.

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So, you know, then the night of the

election and I'm notorious for this.

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I always sit up and watch the election

results I have since I was a kid.

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Um, I'm watching and I'm,

it's becoming very real.

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She's going to lose.

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And I was shocked.

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Um, and like Sandy and Bryan, I

have basically just like shut down

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my media consumption about anything

that has to do with politics.

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Um, because it scares me.

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It scares me.

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Tony Tidbit: Right, right, right, right.

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Let me ask you this because you guys all

pretty much agreed on something that Bryan

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kicked off where, um, Bryan, you stated

that, you know, the Harris camp was saying

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a lot of negative stuff about Trump.

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It really wasn't focused on what they

would, what she or her administration

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would do for the American people.

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Right?

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But at the same time.

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Sandy and Alyssa, you guys

both said I still didn't think

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they were gonna elect them.

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Okay, so let me I got two questions here.

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All right.

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And I want you guys to tell me exactly.

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So what could have been said differently

that would have made people change their

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vote from voting from Harris to Trump?

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What?

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What?

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What message would have been different?

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That would have made a people?

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That they were basically based

on what you guys are saying.

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She was just basically saying

he's this, he's that versus I'm

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going to help a prices go down.

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I want to know from you guys, what

message people needed to hear that

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you knew for a fact they were going

to change their vote based on hearing

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this message versus knowing all the

bad stuff or the background of Trump.

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Go ahead, Bryan.

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Bryan Mullen: I was going to say to me,

the major miss was what I would have

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done, I would have allowed his former

cabinet members, generals, people outside

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of her to say what they said about

Trump, like their truth, they were in

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a meeting with him, he said this, um,

you know, he's a fascist, et cetera.

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But if I were her, I would have

completely, I would have ignored it.

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I would have instead.

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The thing I think she did, which was a

huge mistake, they never validated that

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people were not well off financially.

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They always spoke to sort of the

technical nature of inflation.

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Oh, inflation's down.

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It's only up 2 percent now.

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Yeah, but, but the price of items is

up 40 percent from four years ago.

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And if you, like, I'm okay,

you know, I, I have money.

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I'll be okay when things

are more expensive.

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I don't like it, but I can survive.

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But if you're a family of four, a family

of five, a family of three, and, you know,

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you're buying groceries and it's 150.

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And it used to be 100.

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You know, just the fact that it was

148 last week isn't a win, you know?

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And I really think they ignored it.

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I think they essentially said,

No, no, no, your feelings.

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Your, your reality is not valid.

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Things aren't that bad.

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Look at the stock market.

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So I, I actually never felt

that they showed empathy for

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people that had real concerns.

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Now there are people with that, had

fake concerns, and there are people

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that aren't intelligent enough to know

the difference, and they exist too.

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But you can only speak to the people

In their world, and I think the

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Harris campaign didn't do that.

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I'm not sure why But they didn't do it.

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Tony Tidbit: So so so So sandy Alyssa if

they did that let's let's um, let's just

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let's project if they did that Do you

think the election would be different?

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Sandy Hill Giusti: You know, here's here's

where I differ a little bit and maybe i'm

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under Uneducated it's clearly possible.

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Um, I don't think prices are

high because of who's president

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So,

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so prices are high because of

corporate greed and who they just

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elected is only going to support

corporations, big, huge corporations.

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So, I think they're misinformed

if they think he's going to

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bring grocery prices down.

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So, I mean, I don't that's

not answering the question.

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I realized that, but.

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Tony Tidbit: No, you, you answered it.

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No, no, you answered, you

answered the question.

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Alyssa, what was your thoughts?

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Alyssa Maglione: Uh, yeah, I agree.

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I, I could not agree

more with Bryan on that.

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I, I listen, hindsight is 2020.

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Like now I'm looking back and well,

everything I saw Harris on every podcast,

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every talk show, every single place

I saw her, I was like, yes, yes, yes.

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Love what you're saying.

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Yeah.

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Especially as a woman, because

she really dug into women's

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reproductive rights and and as as

she should be as anybody should be.

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Um, but now looking back, where was

that discussion about the economy?

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Where was that?

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Like, it wasn't enough to say,

I'm from a middle class family.

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I was raised by a single mother out

in California and I lived with, and

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I was taken care of by, you know,

the woman that she kept mentioning

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with, took care of her and her sister.

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That's great.

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But what about now?

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What about now in the people?

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I mean, it's like 75 percent of

the country is struggling and there

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was never the validation of that.

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And never, how are we gonna, how

are we gonna help these people?

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Bye.

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There's this other side

that Sandy mentioned.

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I, I agree.

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The price of groceries has nothing.

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I mean, to my knowledge, to do

with who the sitting president is.

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We're not thinking, in my opinion,

about what happened:

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which was a global pandemic.

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And what goes on in the world

and then in our country.

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During a pandemic is we have to go into

like survival mode, which is less like the

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least, I mean, the best way I can say it.

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And naturally after something like

that, prices are going to inflate.

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We have like, it's like this balancing

act of something really bad happened.

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We had to protect ourselves.

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We had to find relief.

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And now here we are, we're

feeling the effects of that.

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And naturally in a couple of years, we're

going to feel The relief of it again.

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And guess who's going to

get the credit for that.

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And that I can't make sense of that.

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I don't want to say the American

people aren't intelligent enough to

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know that it's not that it's just like

the misinformation and that's on the

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Harris campaign, the Harris campaign.

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We should have been talking about that.

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And I don't, it never, there was

a lot of, oh, yeah, well, Trump's

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going to put tariffs on all of our

goods and et cetera, et cetera.

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But there was never discussion

about how we even got here

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and how it's going to improve.

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Um, and it really doesn't have anything to

do with who's sitting in the Oval Office.

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Bryan Mullen: Have you guys ever, this

might be a little inside politic, but

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there's a Congresswoman from California,

Katie Porter, and she's famous.

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For like having the head of Citibank

in front of Congress and she pulls

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out a little whiteboard and she starts

saying, okay, I make, you know, my family

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makes 2, 500 and she does the math.

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And I really think Harris could have

gone on podcasts or, and just talked

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about the fact that one, international

inflation was much worse than U.

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S.

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inflation.

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We actually did really well.

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I know it sounds, it doesn't

make intuitive sense.

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over there, like, inflation is much

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higher in Spain and in France, uh,

and in Germany than it is here.

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basic education, you know, in an

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intelligent way, could have been done.

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I think too much time was spent

on character assassination.

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Sandy Hill Giust: I agree with that.

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I have a, I have a really quick

question relating to that.

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I know this will probably get to this

later, but how I sort of feel like.

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It almost doesn't matter.

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People were so entrenched in their sides

that was it really going to matter?

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Who says what?

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When

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Tony Tidbit: the

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Sandy Hill Giusti: end of the

day worth a try, but I hear you.

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Right?

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Definitely worth a try

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Tony Tidbit: and that's what I was

going to from the messaging standpoint.

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Right?

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Is that.

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You know, people are so to Sandy's

point was so ingrained and I think.

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You know, and that's why I wanted

to dive into what Sandy and

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Alyssa spoke about a little bit.

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Like, I'm shocked that

he's president, right?

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Well, there's a ton of people.

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his numbers increased in every

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demographic from 2020, right?

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He got every demographic, not that he,

he outdid her in every demographic,

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but his numbers increase from males,

Hispanics, black males, um, every,

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every, every, every demographic, New

Yorkers, New York, everybody, right?

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So it wasn't that it was, it

wasn't, that's what it wasn't the

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rural South or rural Connecticut or

rural No, my neighbors right here.

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And so, so everyone, so, so evidently

there was a message that resonated, right?

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you guys is that out of everything that

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happened, what surprised you the most in

terms of the people that voted for him?

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What surprised you the most, Sandy?

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Sandy Hill Giust: White women.

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Yes.

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Tony Tidbit: You say white

women, like, what do you mean?

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Sandy Hill Giusti: He had a, he had

a majority of white women voting for

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him, like any woman in my opinion, but

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Alyssa Maglione: yeah,

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Sandy Hill Giust: white women

and like, you just voted against

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your own health and your own

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Alyssa Maglione: also, I'm sorry,

I don't, I just back to what

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you just said, Tony, about that.

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He, his numbers increased in every

demographic from the:

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Well, why do we think he didn't get

these numbers in the:

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Because he was the president

from:

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needed and wanted a change.

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That's at least, for me, I

feel like that's common sense.

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Like, But now I feel like there's

some rewriting of history going

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on, and we're now romanticizing

his term in office:

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Why didn't more people

vote for him in:

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Why did now are all these

people and I get it like, right?

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We want people want change and they

need change and et cetera, et cetera.

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But, like, we're not thinking

about:

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going into this 2024 election.

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So, and then.

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Like Sandy just said, I am shocked at the

number of women who voted for this man.

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Um, women who generally not just

women, because also like men, no

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women, they love women, they love

their daughters, I would think, or

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they know women who they care about.

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And I just can't wrap my brain around

how you can go and vote for somebody

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who's Like, very clearly telling

you, you are not going to have the

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rights in the greatest country in

the world that you should have.

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And so, and I also don't

understand the, the.

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Like, the Hispanic vote, I would, I

want to understand why so many Hispanic

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and Latino people are going and

voting for this person, but I can't.

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I'm not like, how are the numbers greater?

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I'm confused.

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Is it that economy piece again?

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Is that what it comes down to

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Chris P. Reed: you guys?

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Uh, spoke about some of the missteps of

the Harris campaign and opportunities

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that you feel like could have

been established during that time.

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But I would like to ask, you know, and

I'll start with you, Sandy, why do you

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think Trump's message resonated with such

portion of the electorate in:

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Were there any particular parts

that differentiate it from.

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The Democratic side that stood out to you.

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Sandy Hill Giusti: Well, I think

going off what Bryan had spoken

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about where the Harris campaign sort

of ignored the economy piece of it.

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I think.

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The Trump campaign went heavy

in on the economy and made big

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promises about what he was going

to do for the economy and and.

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That's, I think everybody

says that, right?

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It's the economy, stupid, right?

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That, and then I also think this whole

immigration thing, which also, I believe

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there's been misinformation around there's

a, I mean, I know a lot of people I know

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personally on the Trump side of things.

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That was a big part of it.

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Peace for them was the flow of immigrants

over, you know, through the borders.

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And they didn't think that Democrats,

they thought the Democrats were

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too welcoming and everybody's

getting free money and all of that.

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Chris P. Reed: And Alyssa,

what was your perspective on

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what about the Trump message?

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Or I'm not sure how much you leaned

into that message, but what about that

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message do you feel like resonated

with the, the electorate in:

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Alyssa Maglione: I, I agree with Sandy.

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I think There was a lot, a lot of

discussion regarding the economy that

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you just didn't hear on the Harris side.

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And just, I mean, I've never heard

anyone talk about immigration.

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As much as Donald Trump does, I mean,

the entire, if you go back to the

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debate, that's all he talked about.

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Every question he answered with that

had nothing to do with immigration.

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He answered with an immigration answer.

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Um, I, and I don't really remember

the Harris campaign talking that much

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about immigration and the borders.

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Um.

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I think on the Harris side of things,

there was so much discussion about

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reproductive rights, more like

of these morality and ethics, um,

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stances versus these very real, real

things for so many people in this

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country that Trump really honed in

on and JD Vance really honed in on.

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I mean, there was constant discussion

about people having no money and not

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being able to feed their children

and the price of eggs, et cetera.

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And I think that really resonated with

people, um, because they, people are

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struggling and, and I've heard from

people on the Trump side, a lot of

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people, um, saying, you know, when

Donald Trump was president, I had

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more money than I've ever had before.

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And now I can barely afford

groceries every week.

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So I think that that just really hit

home for so many people in this country.

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Chris P. Reed: Same to you, uh, you

know, obviously we, we, it was mentioned

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earlier about the fact that we were

all at home and so we were able to

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save more money, but in the concept of

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Alyssa Maglione: why do

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Chris P. Reed: you think Trump's

message resonated with such a

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large portion of the electorate?

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Bryan Mullen: Well, I, I

actually think, like, I don't

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think he's a very bright man.

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I think he's an ignorant man.

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Like I think if, if we

actually did like a test.

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In SAT, he, he failed miserably,

but one thing they did well

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was, they went on podcasts.

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They sort of identified young men as this

group of people that don't vote, so he

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would show up at UFC, he's always been

like UFC guy, Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock, all

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these like, what we would consider freaks,

um, but he went on Joe Rogan, you know,

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but I also think the Democrats, there

was obviously this festering unhappiness.

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With a democratic brand what Democrats

stand for and it was there and you'd

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think if they had a billion dollars

now I'm gonna get a little angry

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They had a billion dollars They could

have spent a little bit on asking

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people about it finding out about it

because clearly it was there Like they

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interviewed people after the election.

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They're just like I mean, the other

thing, Alyssa just mentioned a debate.

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I'd forgotten about the debate.

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Do you remember how awful he was?

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How incredibly stupid he was?

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How incredibly unpolished?

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Like, you watch that debate

and you're like, This guy can't

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talk to the president of France.

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Um, he's an idiot.

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The pets thing.

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I mean, It's amazing that that

debate actually didn't matter.

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Because, underneath the surface,

not with me, I'm unhappy with

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the Democratic brand, too.

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Like, if you ask me, they stink.

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They're the worst.

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They're slightly better than

the Republicans, but not much.

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They all stand for big business, okay?

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But, they don't want to take

away a woman's right to choose.

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They don't want to take a

black man's right to vote away.

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They don't want, they don't want to do

things that are, like, possibly awful.

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They don't say that, that the Ku

Klux Klan and, and progressive

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marchers are the same people.

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Like, so, yeah, I'll vote for

them if it's a binary choice.

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But there obviously was this under,

this underbelly of dissatisfaction

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that was never discovered.

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And it's amazing to me.

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That it was never discovered.

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Tony Tidbit: Right.

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Right.

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Let me ask you guys this.

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Do you think racism, sexism and xenophobia

played a part in the election at all?

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Alyssa Maglione: Yes.

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Yeah.

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I think I hear a lot.

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I'm hearing after the election, the

little bits of coverage I consumed like

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the day after, and then I had to stop.

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I, there was a lot of that discussion,

like, did this have to do with Harris

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being a woman, does this have to

do with Trump being a white male?

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Does this have to do with, um, Harris

being black or Indian or whatever it is?

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Um, and, and a lot of experts.

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We're like, no, um, it

doesn't show in the numbers.

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It doesn't show in the numbers.

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However, to Bryan's point, Donald

Trump was spending a tremendous amount

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of time on podcasts specifically,

um, that young white men listen to.

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And we all know Donald Trump has,

um, little to no, I'm going to

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go with no respect for women.

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Um, And he doesn't speak with

any respect toward women.

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Um, So I can't imagine that it

didn't have something to do with it.

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Like, I cannot imagine that there

weren't men and women and women

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going in and voting for Donald Trump

because they didn't think Harris

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could do the job because she's

a woman or because she's black.

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Now we have had a black president, but

let's rewind to then in all the, I mean,

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Obama had two years leading up to the 2008

election to prepare, prepare the American

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people for a black man to be president.

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I'm using the word prepare, not

because I want to use that word,

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but that's how it's discussed.

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Oh, we have to get ready for this.

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We have to be, make people

comfortable with it.

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Um, so Kamala Harris had 107 days and

I think, you know, A lot of people are

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like, no, she shouldn't talk about the

fact that she's a woman or the first

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woman or whatever that could be president.

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I actually disagree with that.

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I think we should be talking about that.

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I think we should be talking about

it because it's important because the

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reality is in this country, despite it

being the freest country in the world.

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In the most advanced country in the

world, there's a gigantic chunk of

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this country who cannot even imagine

the idea of a woman being in charge of

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anything, nevermind the whole country.

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Um, so yeah, Hillary ran and did

not, she won the popular vote.

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Let's not forget.

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Let's not forget that she

did win the popular vote.

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Um, so I don't know that it's a huge

reason why Kamala lost, but there, it

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has to be, it has to be part of the

discussion that she is a woman and she is.

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A black woman,

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Tony Tidbit: right?

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Right.

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Sandy

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Sandy Hill Giusti: look at where I

work in private equity, which is run

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by a bunch of 65 year old white men.

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We don't have a woman in in any

sort of elevated position in my

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little microcosm of the company.

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And I just think that.

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Whether I don't even I

don't think it's economic.

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I think it's broad based throughout that

people don't want to see a woman in power.

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Alyssa Maglione: Yeah,

we're, we're too emotional.

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We're too emotional.

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Sandy Hill Giust: Oh, right.

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We can't be trusted with the earlier.

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Tony Tidbit: So, let me

say this though, right?

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Let's look at the facts.

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Right.

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Donald Trump has run for

president three times.

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Who did he beat?

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Alyssa Maglione: Right.

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Two women,

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Tony Tidbit: two women, two women.

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Okay.

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What numbers increased this time?

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You guys just talked about it, right?

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The male.

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No, the male.

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All right.

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Who didn't even vote before.

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Alyssa Maglione: Yeah.

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Tony Tidbit: All right.

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A lot of.

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So, I mean, the facts

are, those are the facts.

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He beat 2 women and then the

guy he ran up against, he lost.

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So the country based on that the

country doesn't seem like it's

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ready for a woman president.

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Okay, and it's not about qualifications

Bryan, what's your thoughts on

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that racism sexism xenophobia?

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Do you think that played

a part in the election?

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Bryan Mullen: I actually think

the biggest part was xenophobia.

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I think immigration.

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I think immigration in the

economy I sort of agree.

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I think one of the most brilliant and

distasteful things that was ever done

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was when the border state Is sent

by bus and maybe by plane as well.

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Um, it was brilliant because it

essentially allowed people who only

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see it on the news to experience

it and experience how awful it was.

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And then you could, you know,

I know a lot of New Yorkers.

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I live on the Upper West Side.

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We had, we had a place,

we had a shelter nearby.

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People saw it, it became more real.

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So I think the xenophobia and one of the

things we talked about earlier, which

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is the most disappointing, and I'm not

sure I meant, I, I answered that was

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the idea of Latinos voting for Trump.

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Or Muslims voting for Trump is

just, it's almost like an SNL skit.

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Like saying, okay, pull

the lever for Trump.

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And then we're either going to kill you.

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You'll be deported right after.

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Okay.

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It's insane.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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But they interviewed people and me and

Alyssa are showing like we actually

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do watch a little after the fact.

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That's true.

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They interviewed, you know,

some Latinos who said.

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We made our decision a long time ago.

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Like this, we made this

decision a year, two years ago.

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Like we just, we, we don't think

Biden knows what he's doing.

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Let

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Tony Tidbit: me, let me

throw this into the mix.

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Okay.

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Cause based on what I'm hearing, I

want to ask you guys this question.

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Do you feel that the bot excuse me, the

Harris camp, their campaign was more on

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morality, more on how terrible he is.

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Look at his background, right?

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And based on that, I wouldn't see

anybody voting for him, right?

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Because to be fair, she had 200

Republicans come out and said, I

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work with the guy, he's horrible.

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Um, you look, he, uh, the insurrection,

okay, which people just forgot about, all

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right, that he tried to overthrow, right?

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The felony convictions.

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Right.

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Let's be fair here.

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Right.

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Let's educate.

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Okay.

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In most states, if you have a

felony, you can't even vote.

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Okay.

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Just most, you can't vote.

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All right.

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He has felony convictions and

he's running for president.

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So do you feel that that really was the

game plan that Hey, let's just attack him.

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And then from a morality standpoint,

yeah, eggs cost a lot more money.

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Yeah.

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All these other things, but people

will look at their morality and say,

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we can't have him for president.

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What's your thoughts on that?

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Alyssa Maglione: Yes.

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Tony Tidbit: Sandy.

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Yeah.

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Alyssa Maglione: Yes.

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Yes.

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No, it's true.

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Tony Tidbit: Well, you guys say yes.

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What do you mean by, yes.

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Go ahead.

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:

Go ahead.

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Alyssa Maglione: Oh, um, I mean, It, I

think that the Kamala campaign really

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believed in what she was saying, which

was, we are like, we're such good people.

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The American people are good people.

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We are smart people.

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We, you know.

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You know, there's so we have so

much more and I sound, I sound

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like I work for a campaign guys.

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We have so much more in common than we do.

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That divides us.

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And I, I don't disagree with that.

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However, she really played into it.

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She played into it so much so

that she, I mean, the, I've never

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seen the amount of celebrities.

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We're out coming out and supporting her.

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I've never seen anything like that in

campaign in any election in campaign

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history, and it was all morality, right?

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:

Like how could we possibly go back 50, a

hundred years in terms of women's rights?

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And, um, And black people, right?

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I'm sorry, not just black, all

different nationalities rights.

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How can we possibly Yeah, people of color.

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Yeah, people of color.

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Civil rights.

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Yes, civil, thank you.

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Civil rights.

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No problem.

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How are we going to go back?

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So, everything that they were doing was,

I believe they were, they just really

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thought like, there's no way anybody

in this country can possibly think that

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:

it's okay for a felon, for a rapist, for

a, a lot of things that he is to be at

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:

the holding this incredibly powerful,

most important seat in the entire world.

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:

Like, I really think they

thought that that people will.

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:

We'll put aside the price of eggs.

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People will put aside this whole notion

of immigrants getting free money.

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They're going to, it means more to them.

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:

It's more important to them.

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The morality, we're parents, right?

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We're all parents.

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We can't let our children see a guy

who is a 34 time convicted felon

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sitting in the seat of president.

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:

How could you tell your kids

you went in and voted for it?

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Don't we raise our children to No matter

what, we don't do bad things, because if

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you do bad things, you get in trouble.

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:

Nope.

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Nope, not anymore.

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Not anymore.

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Tony Tidbit: Go ahead, Bryan.

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:

Go ahead.

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:

Bryan Mullen: So, so don't

talk, like, it's all factual.

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It's being covered elsewhere.

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You know, I think putting him on trial,

that New York City trial was so stupid.

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It looked so selective, you know.

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A lot of men have done a lot of things

to women that don't go to trial.

750

:

Like, that was so stupid.

751

:

The insurrection, trying to get votes.

752

:

Find the 11, 000 votes.

753

:

That was real.

754

:

The democratic party has to

be the stupidest party ever.

755

:

They had a billion dollars, billion

dollars, an old fat, demented

756

:

white guy, pasty white guy with bad

hair, bad posture, bad everything.

757

:

All we could do with our time was to

remind people of his personal failures.

758

:

Give me a break.

759

:

So,

760

:

Chris P. Reed: so like, let me, let

me interject on this though, right?

761

:

Because I think that the thought

process may have been that we wanted

762

:

to take things from allegedly and the

allegations of to the factual, like

763

:

you said, the facts of the thing.

764

:

So the conviction.

765

:

So now it's beyond conjecture.

766

:

It's beyond speculation.

767

:

So the, the, the alleged rape or the

alleged, the speculative fraud, Now we're,

768

:

we're honing in on these things have

been proven in the United States court

769

:

of law in a New York City court of like

770

:

Bryan Mullen: in the United States,

771

:

but convicted in New York is easy for his

people and it's easy to say, of course,

772

:

he was like, do I believe he was guilty?

773

:

Of course, but it's easy to throw

stones and say, see, I'm guilty.

774

:

It's the DOJ.

775

:

Who's the DOJ run by?

776

:

Joe Biden.

777

:

Well, it isn't, but

778

:

Tony Tidbit: Bryan, Bryan,

let me throw this in though.

779

:

So, and again, these are the

things that have transpired.

780

:

So, you know, it's unfortunate

that now it depends on what court

781

:

you get convicted in, right?

782

:

The court don't matter

depending on where it's at.

783

:

All right.

784

:

If it's in New York, it's, you know,

they're, they're against them, but if

785

:

it's in, you know, uh, Atlanta or if it's

in Des Moines, Iowa, then it's legit.

786

:

So, I mean, this is where

we are today, right?

787

:

However, You can't get over insurrection.

788

:

Okay.

789

:

Let's be fair.

790

:

Okay.

791

:

No, but my point is, is that

that's what I'm trying to say here.

792

:

We're, this is where we are now.

793

:

People are pulling, picking hairs on

certain things of an individual, right?

794

:

Versus looking at the toe tap.

795

:

Forget it.

796

:

That's what, that's what

Chris was talking about.

797

:

Forget the alleged stuff.

798

:

Forget the, it was in

this court or that court.

799

:

We're talking about.

800

:

Convictions.

801

:

And we're talking about, uh, insurrection

that everybody saw and his own people

802

:

came out against them on the same

people that standing up who became

803

:

secretary of state or who'd been

nominated for secretary of state.

804

:

All these people that were in the history

now is being nominated for his cabinet.

805

:

Well, the ones that are on

TV and it was despicable.

806

:

Okay.

807

:

And so, and, and, and, and

we're talking trees, treason.

808

:

Right?

809

:

That's forgotten, right?

810

:

That's go ahead, Sandy.

811

:

Sandy Hill Giusti: A

lot of voters, though.

812

:

believe that that

insurrection didn't happen.

813

:

Alyssa Maglione: I just,

that's so laughable.

814

:

She's right.

815

:

She

816

:

Tony Tidbit: is right.

817

:

She is.

818

:

This is where we are now.

819

:

It depends on what court, it

depends on, you know, the document

820

:

Bryan Mullen: you can see.

821

:

It

822

:

Tony Tidbit: depends.

823

:

You created this doubt.

824

:

Go ahead.

825

:

Bryan Mullen: Right.

826

:

But it all comes back to the same thing

then don't talk so much about that.

827

:

Talk about your plan.

828

:

How am I going to make your life better?

829

:

When you focus on the 25 things

he did, which are heinous, you

830

:

are not, it's a zero sum game.

831

:

You're not talking about.

832

:

Her idea for small businesses or, um,

you know, just, just trying to help the

833

:

economy or like her idea for housing.

834

:

There's obviously a

housing crisis in the U.

835

:

S.

836

:

She had ideas.

837

:

They just never, they never talked to

really about them because they were

838

:

always, Always superseded by the big,

nasty, personal, you know, like, the

839

:

things that, actually, when you think

about it, when a family wakes up in the

840

:

morning, and the father has a job, and

maybe the mother has a job too, and they

841

:

put the kids off to school, are they

really thinking about the insurrection?

842

:

No, they're not.

843

:

I'm not saying it's a good thing.

844

:

I'm just saying,

845

:

like, stop talking about it.

846

:

It's been, it's been debated.

847

:

It's been discussed.

848

:

You try, you try to win the

presidency or win an argument?

849

:

Like which one are you trying to do?

850

:

Tony Tidbit: Yeah.

851

:

I mean, so here, here's the thing though.

852

:

I hear that the thing

with that though is now.

853

:

Those things don't matter regardless.

854

:

So in other words, in other

words, those things would matter.

855

:

Okay.

856

:

At the end of the day.

857

:

So, so, so, and I don't want to use that.

858

:

I don't want to use that.

859

:

Those things.

860

:

Yes.

861

:

Those things should matter

because care, let me ask you this.

862

:

You and I worked at the

same company before, right?

863

:

Before we worked at that

company, we had to do what?

864

:

Take a background check, right?

865

:

Okay.

866

:

And guess what?

867

:

If they would have looked into our

back when, excuse me, when they looked

868

:

into our background, if they saw we had

felonies, they saw all those other things.

869

:

Well, we got the job.

870

:

Would they have hired us, Bryan?

871

:

No, no.

872

:

So, so that part matters.

873

:

So, so you can't say, Hey, they're not

saying they're not when they're, when

874

:

they're looking at our background.

875

:

I'm like, well, you know what?

876

:

We don't want to bring this up.

877

:

He's a good guy and we think

he's going to do a good job.

878

:

Okay.

879

:

We think in this and that.

880

:

So, you know what, let's just omit

that we're being held to that standard.

881

:

Let's be fair now.

882

:

Aren't we?

883

:

We're being held to that standard.

884

:

But when it comes to the presidency, we're

not supposed to talk about those things.

885

:

We're supposed to talk about eggs.

886

:

We're supposed to talk about

887

:

Bryan Mullen: Because, because

those things have been talked about.

888

:

The insurrection was four years ago.

889

:

Do I think it was good?

890

:

No, it was awful.

891

:

Lost,

892

:

lost in all this, the fact that

the Democrats, when they counted

893

:

the votes and said the Republicans

won, the Democrats said you win.

894

:

Case closed.

895

:

In the two weeks leading up to the

election, Donald Trump and his people

896

:

created all this doubt in the, in

the swing states about vote counting.

897

:

There are two sets of rules, but as my

wife used to, my ex wife used to say,

898

:

like, what do you want to accomplish?

899

:

Do you want to change hearts and minds

or do you want to win an argument?

900

:

Because if you're looking to win

an argument, you know, big deal.

901

:

You just won an argument, but

you haven't won hearts and minds.

902

:

So what good is it?

903

:

Like these other things.

904

:

They were facts.

905

:

Let people consume them as they will.

906

:

Let them believe it or not.

907

:

It's up to them.

908

:

You can't hit them over

the head with a mallet.

909

:

Talk about the things moving forward.

910

:

That's what I think.

911

:

That's what I thought during.

912

:

To me, the outcome clearly proved

that the insurrection, the New

913

:

York City conviction, people,

you know, his conversation with

914

:

Zelinsky, perfectly good call.

915

:

You just don't care.

916

:

People don't care about it.

917

:

Alyssa Maglione: Would people care

though if it were flipped, if Kamala

918

:

was the one with this background?

919

:

Bryan Mullen: I don't know.

920

:

No, I know, I know about emails.

921

:

I about emails.

922

:

When Hillary Clinton,

923

:

Tony Tidbit: hold on, let do this.

924

:

I, I'll say the point.

925

:

I'm going to let me ask you this question.

926

:

Yeah.

927

:

What was the movie?

928

:

Uh, Chris, uh, time to kill.

929

:

Remember that movie?

930

:

So close your eyes.

931

:

Okay.

932

:

Close your eyes and let's flip

everything and keep it the same.

933

:

This guy, his name is Trump.

934

:

He's got the same stuff, the same

marketing, the same background.

935

:

When you, when you close your

eyes, you see him as a black man.

936

:

All right.

937

:

Does he get elected?

938

:

Nope.

939

:

No, no, no.

940

:

Okay.

941

:

He doesn't.

942

:

So that's what I'm, this is my point here.

943

:

He wouldn't even be on the ballot.

944

:

So you don't, that's

what I'm trying to say.

945

:

Those things, as much as they make

sense from a logic standpoint.

946

:

They don't.

947

:

They don't.

948

:

So it's more than that.

949

:

It's more than the messaging

because the people that voted

950

:

for her, I'll be honest with you.

951

:

They, uh, they're not all rich.

952

:

They didn't, they're still buying eggs.

953

:

They're, they're all those, but

they looked at it differently.

954

:

That's my point here.

955

:

So there's something that must be missing.

956

:

I'm trying to figure it out.

957

:

But at the end of the

day, if you flip it, Okay.

958

:

And, or, or if he was, she was a

woman, if it was, they wouldn't

959

:

have voted for if Trump was a woman.

960

:

Okay.

961

:

Let's be fair.

962

:

If Trump was a woman with the

same stuff, saying a billionaire,

963

:

you can name all the same stuff.

964

:

You're going to sit here and tell me

that they would have voted for her.

965

:

No.

966

:

Chris just made a really

967

:

Alyssa Maglione: good point.

968

:

And my husband actually just recently

sent me this clip because I forgot

969

:

all about it as all of us have.

970

:

Um, The emails with Hillary

Clinton, my good Lord.

971

:

Did Donald Trump stand

on a soap box in:

972

:

Well, 2016 about those emails.

973

:

And there is an interview that he did.

974

:

This is the clip.

975

:

My husband sent me that he went

on and on about what it would

976

:

look like for this country.

977

:

If a convicted felon, if she were to go

to trial and become a convicted felon,

978

:

she would then, how could we ever?

979

:

Live in a country where we could live

with ourselves who elected a convicted

980

:

felon, like I forgot all about that

as like Bryan mentioned people, you

981

:

know, the insurrection was 4 years ago.

982

:

I don't want to like, kind of like,

just move past that because it was

983

:

4 years ago, but a life was lost and

there is a massive part of this country.

984

:

Who still believe that either it didn't

happen or that Donald Trump never did

985

:

any of the things that not only have

shown on video, but they're in writing.

986

:

They're in writing.

987

:

Alyssa,

988

:

Bryan Mullen: Alyssa, they're gone.

989

:

They're gone.

990

:

And they're never coming back.

991

:

That's a third of the country.

992

:

I'm just spitballing that will

literally never return to reality.

993

:

And we either want to win elections.

994

:

Or I, I might move out of the country,

I might, and because that, that's

995

:

not, that's never going to change.

996

:

You've seen, whether it's Comedy

Central or, you know, they go to these

997

:

Trump rallies and interview people and

they are dumb as a bag of rocks and

998

:

they're not going to get any smarter.

999

:

And they're having kids, probably having

more kids than, than we're having.

:

00:52:39,105 --> 00:52:42,765

And um, you know, they're lost forever.

:

00:52:43,735 --> 00:52:45,655

And do we want to win elections?

:

00:52:45,695 --> 00:52:48,575

Now, Bernie Sanders came out

the day after the election.

:

00:52:49,130 --> 00:52:51,540

A lot of people were upset that he

said it a day after the election.

:

00:52:51,540 --> 00:52:54,830

He probably was thinking about it

a long time before the election,

:

00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:58,410

but he held his tongue because he

realized the threat of Donald Trump.

:

00:52:58,410 --> 00:53:00,250

Well, Donald Trump's no longer a threat.

:

00:53:00,250 --> 00:53:00,960

He's a reality.

:

00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,780

And the question is,

what are we going to do?

:

00:53:05,090 --> 00:53:06,630

And I don't want to go my Bernie thing.

:

00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:08,329

We can do another episode or not at all.

:

00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:16,180

Bernie said, we do not connect with

people in the middle and lower class.

:

00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,740

We meaning the democratic party.

:

00:53:18,460 --> 00:53:21,000

We do not, they don't view us as such.

:

00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:23,970

And some of that might be ignorance,

but a lot of it is the fact that

:

00:53:23,980 --> 00:53:25,680

we don't even discuss these issues.

:

00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,000

Shame on us.

:

00:53:28,460 --> 00:53:29,110

Shame on us.

:

00:53:29,290 --> 00:53:31,370

Tony Tidbit: Sandy, let me,

let's get your thoughts on this.

:

00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:35,880

Sandy Hill Giusti: Um, I actually have a

thought on something else sort of related.

:

00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,460

So we were talking about how, uh, The

different, the different things that

:

00:53:40,460 --> 00:53:44,320

the Republicans, that the Republican

ticket was talking about and how,

:

00:53:44,540 --> 00:53:47,590

I'm sorry, that the Democrat ticket

was talking about and how it might

:

00:53:47,780 --> 00:53:49,980

disenfranchise the Republicans.

:

00:53:50,450 --> 00:53:55,910

My husband said this, um, that a

lot, a lot of the talk about the

:

00:53:55,910 --> 00:54:01,720

transgender stuff and the, the, my son

is going to play in a girl's baseball

:

00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:07,930

team, that all of that, that whole

subject where I'm not sure that is

:

00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:09,380

something this country is ready for.

:

00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:12,300

And I, and I heard.

:

00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,140

A lot.

:

00:54:13,180 --> 00:54:16,120

I heard some of the people that

I know that are Trump supporters.

:

00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,380

That was a big thing for them.

:

00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,180

You know, you're not going to have a

drag queen, blah, blah, all of that.

:

00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:27,180

And I think, I'm not saying that I

agree that that is the right way to

:

00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:31,690

be, but I think that that caused a lot

of people to, to vote for Trump too.

:

00:54:33,050 --> 00:54:33,970

Alyssa Maglione: Again, though,

:

00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:38,990

the misinformation.

:

00:54:39,325 --> 00:54:44,855

Why do people think that Donald

Trump control or whoever is

:

00:54:44,855 --> 00:54:47,515

president controls all of that?

:

00:54:47,945 --> 00:54:52,355

Like I'm confused on how

he even, I'm not confused.

:

00:54:52,625 --> 00:55:00,055

He and his running mate really drove,

like really tried to drive in like

:

00:55:00,055 --> 00:55:02,245

home, like this whole transgender thing.

:

00:55:02,245 --> 00:55:06,075

And just constantly, I mean, how

long was the story circulating

:

00:55:06,085 --> 00:55:10,165

about how children are getting sex

change operations in public schools?

:

00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:16,830

Without their parents permission, like

how I, you know, Bryan had mentioned that

:

00:55:16,830 --> 00:55:20,530

there are that Bernie Sanders came out

and said that the Democratic Party is

:

00:55:20,540 --> 00:55:24,560

not connecting with the middle and lower

class of this country and that's true.

:

00:55:25,250 --> 00:55:29,650

But how are we supposed to connect with

people, whether they're of the middle and

:

00:55:29,650 --> 00:55:34,640

lower class, or maybe even different class

with people who believe stuff like that.

:

00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:37,150

Like that, those are lies.

:

00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:39,600

They are straight up, just bold face.

:

00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:45,970

Like if my child walked into the room

and just blatantly told, just said to

:

00:55:45,980 --> 00:55:48,690

me, you know, today the sky was green.

:

00:55:48,990 --> 00:55:52,020

And I, and I was like,

no, hon, the sky is blue.

:

00:55:52,180 --> 00:55:53,150

No, it's green.

:

00:55:53,170 --> 00:55:54,890

And I would be like, that's not true.

:

00:55:55,090 --> 00:55:55,310

So.

:

00:55:55,610 --> 00:55:57,430

Because it's that basic, right?

:

00:55:57,460 --> 00:55:58,640

It's that simple.

:

00:55:59,140 --> 00:56:01,730

How could you possibly

believe these things?

:

00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:05,600

And then this whole thing about, I saw

the same thing as you, Sandy, this,

:

00:56:05,660 --> 00:56:11,240

this whole thing about the circulating

of boys being on girls sports teams.

:

00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:13,040

And I'm not going to, my

daughter shouldn't have to

:

00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,470

play with a boy, whatever.

:

00:56:15,740 --> 00:56:21,320

What makes them think that Donald

Trump is going to like, I'm confused.

:

00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,960

Like, isn't that like at the

state level, I'm confused.

:

00:56:25,420 --> 00:56:27,260

Bryan Mullen: He's showing

empathy on that subject.

:

00:56:27,665 --> 00:56:30,205

He's saying to the

person that that upsets.

:

00:56:30,655 --> 00:56:31,585

I agree with you.

:

00:56:31,585 --> 00:56:33,065

That's that's awful.

:

00:56:33,325 --> 00:56:37,515

I am a progressive male If I had a

daughter that was of high school age,

:

00:56:37,555 --> 00:56:44,765

I would not want a former boy Competing

against her I wouldn't and I think

:

00:56:44,765 --> 00:56:47,595

the idea of doing it is absurd, right?

:

00:56:47,615 --> 00:56:55,025

Maybe i'll get canceled in some circles,

but to me to me Democrats are wishy washy

:

00:56:55,065 --> 00:57:00,780

on a lot of progressive ideas They're

afraid, they're afraid to take a stand.

:

00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:04,640

And when people are afraid to take a

stand, when people are listening to those

:

00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,310

people talk, they're like, you're a wimp.

:

00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:08,730

Alyssa Maglione: Yeah,

that's a good point.

:

00:57:08,740 --> 00:57:10,390

Bryan Mullen: I think a

lot of it is that simple.

:

00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,070

Buddy, I agree with that.

:

00:57:12,070 --> 00:57:14,610

You're right, Alyssa, like,

like the president probably has

:

00:57:14,610 --> 00:57:15,980

nothing to do with inflation.

:

00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:16,980

You said it, Sandy.

:

00:57:16,980 --> 00:57:17,610

The president has nothing.

:

00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:24,010

But, what they believe in, Is someone

you're going to elect and to me Kamala

:

00:57:24,010 --> 00:57:28,840

Harris could have easily said if I had a

daughter in high school I wouldn't want

:

00:57:28,850 --> 00:57:30,030

we're gonna we're gonna look into this.

:

00:57:31,110 --> 00:57:37,625

We're gonna make sure Like someone isn't

hurt that someone isn't Like why not?

:

00:57:39,805 --> 00:57:41,995

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00:57:58,705 --> 00:58:02,115

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:

00:58:02,135 --> 00:58:07,065

Rationalogical base of thought around

something that's obviously an overtly

:

00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:12,220

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trying and thank, thank God for you.

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00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:13,690

But, but let's think about this.

:

00:58:13,690 --> 00:58:17,670

Anybody that has children or in the

last 15, 20 years, my daughter can't

:

00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:22,270

even take a peanut butter sandwich to

school because of allergies and like,

:

00:58:22,270 --> 00:58:23,960

how are they changing, changing sexes?

:

00:58:24,740 --> 00:58:26,530

They're asking me for printer paper.

:

00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:31,109

They got a machine.

:

00:58:31,110 --> 00:58:31,410

So,

:

00:58:31,410 --> 00:58:34,734

Alyssa Maglione: so

:

00:58:35,115 --> 00:58:38,475

Chris P. Reed: So, let's not over

rotate on lunacy because it's

:

00:58:38,475 --> 00:58:41,595

a cascading abyss that I don't

think we are qualified to go down.

:

00:58:41,595 --> 00:58:42,713

It's mental illness.

:

00:58:42,713 --> 00:58:44,950

But I appreciate you guys trying.

:

00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:46,069

Alyssa Maglione: Yeah, you're right.

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00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:46,442

You're

:

00:58:46,442 --> 00:58:46,814

Tony Tidbit: right.

:

00:58:46,815 --> 00:58:49,715

But to be fair, excuse me, I said the

word and I shouldn't have said but.

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00:58:50,155 --> 00:58:58,175

The thing is, is this, is that what I'm

hearing, um, is that what I'm hearing

:

00:58:58,175 --> 00:59:01,175

is, is the dumbing down of information.

:

00:59:02,510 --> 00:59:05,530

That people can accept.

:

00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:07,880

That's basically what I'm hearing.

:

00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:14,990

What I'm hearing is, is that the majority

of people in the United States is not,

:

00:59:15,220 --> 00:59:17,230

does not pay attention to what goes on.

:

00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:21,790

And it doesn't, and we can say they're not

high school grads, what case may be, but

:

00:59:21,790 --> 00:59:23,760

it really, they just, they're not aware.

:

00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:24,760

Okay.

:

00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,890

Then they're not aware of what

a republic is and not aware of

:

00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:29,090

three branches of government.

:

00:59:29,330 --> 00:59:32,380

They're not aware of what a president

can do and what he can't do.

:

00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,420

They're not aware.

:

00:59:33,550 --> 00:59:39,110

So a lot of the information is being

second hand, third hand social media.

:

00:59:39,350 --> 00:59:43,100

That's educating them on

falsehoods that are not true.

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00:59:43,420 --> 00:59:44,050

Okay.

:

00:59:44,250 --> 00:59:47,760

And so what I'm hearing, Bryan,

what you're saying, and I'm not,

:

00:59:47,790 --> 00:59:50,990

uh, I don't disagree with it.

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00:59:51,210 --> 00:59:56,230

What I'm hearing is, is that the

lady that took the whiteboard and

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00:59:56,230 --> 00:59:59,710

said, this is what:

you can use it for this and that.

:

01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,021

That's how the communication,

unfortunately, needs to be

:

01:00:04,021 --> 01:00:08,499

communicated to people here in

the United States to number 1.

:

01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:10,500

Um, speak at their level.

:

01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:13,620

I hate to say a condescending

phrase, but speak at their level.

:

01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:17,930

And then number two, to engage

with them where they feel like

:

01:00:17,930 --> 01:00:23,200

somebody is listening to them,

regardless if it's outrageous or not.

:

01:00:23,210 --> 01:00:24,660

Is that what I'm hearing from you guys?

:

01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,010

Chris P. Reed: Agreed the danger,

the danger, though, Tony, and that

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01:00:30,010 --> 01:00:33,240

and panelists, if you're not agreeing

with them, you're dead wrong.

:

01:00:33,250 --> 01:00:35,830

No matter how much sense you

make and how to math is math.

:

01:00:35,830 --> 01:00:38,530

And that's the danger of the.

:

01:00:38,780 --> 01:00:42,490

Place that we put ourselves in as a

government, as a society, as a country.

:

01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,590

Is that some people are so entrenched in

their belief, regardless of the evidence,

:

01:00:47,590 --> 01:00:51,270

regardless of the facts, regardless of

the level of communication, how eloquent.

:

01:00:51,580 --> 01:00:53,900

And executive you are

in your presentation.

:

01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,610

Like they, like somebody said, I

think you said it, Bryan, they made

:

01:00:56,630 --> 01:00:59,830

up their mind two years ago and I'd be

damned if you say anything or present

:

01:00:59,830 --> 01:01:03,290

anything, show anything or prove

anything that's going to make me change

:

01:01:03,290 --> 01:01:04,580

my feeble mind from two years ago.

:

01:01:04,590 --> 01:01:05,010

Well,

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01:01:05,030 --> 01:01:06,880

Bryan Mullen: think about

it all during the election.

:

01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,290

They were talking about these undecideds.

:

01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:11,900

That was like, if you watch

anything on CNN or any, well, we

:

01:01:11,900 --> 01:01:13,469

got to reach the undecideds and.

:

01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,460

People would make fun.

:

01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,470

How could you possibly

undecide a bit like what is it?

:

01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,830

You don't know that you'll find

out in the last two weeks, you

:

01:01:19,830 --> 01:01:26,040

know, but you know, maybe Maybe

that's maybe that's a big problem.

:

01:01:26,180 --> 01:01:30,305

Like like people say the campaign

is too long, but Part of the

:

01:01:30,305 --> 01:01:31,785

campaign is how you govern.

:

01:01:32,675 --> 01:01:37,995

And when Joe Biden was allowing people

to cross the border and Greg Abbott, that

:

01:01:38,005 --> 01:01:42,305

crazy governor was putting barbed wire

and stuff, you know, and he's a bad man.

:

01:01:42,885 --> 01:01:49,325

Um, and he isn't a good guy, but you

know, everyone saw it, everyone saw it.

:

01:01:49,425 --> 01:01:53,555

And once you see that, you know,

the country's being taken over.

:

01:01:54,155 --> 01:01:55,225

Alyssa Maglione: Right, right.

:

01:01:56,125 --> 01:01:57,325

Bryan Mullen: It is, right?

:

01:01:57,635 --> 01:01:58,965

And no one's doing anything about it.

:

01:01:58,965 --> 01:02:04,025

And all Kamala said, her pat

answer drove me nuts was well,

:

01:02:05,045 --> 01:02:07,465

you had that bill killed.

:

01:02:07,525 --> 01:02:08,505

Now, that's true.

:

01:02:12,675 --> 01:02:13,335

Better than that.

:

01:02:14,575 --> 01:02:17,765

Tony Tidbit: Yeah, I, I think, well,

let's do this because we're, we're

:

01:02:17,765 --> 01:02:20,415

running out of time and I want to

get you guys, you know, because we've

:

01:02:20,415 --> 01:02:23,330

talked a lot about the past now, right?

:

01:02:23,330 --> 01:02:24,775

So, we can do about it.

:

01:02:24,785 --> 01:02:27,895

Right from a future standpoint, right?

:

01:02:27,895 --> 01:02:28,099

Right.

:

01:02:29,130 --> 01:02:30,180

What can we do?

:

01:02:30,190 --> 01:02:34,890

Because we just, everybody went around and

talked about, you know, they have friends,

:

01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:36,860

family, relatives who voted for Trump.

:

01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:37,820

All right.

:

01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:44,440

Um, so what can we do, or what

can you do as individuals, right.

:

01:02:44,730 --> 01:02:47,700

To be able to try to make this.

:

01:02:48,155 --> 01:02:53,275

Uh, more, uh, try to bring people

together regardless of how you

:

01:02:53,285 --> 01:02:57,855

feel about the election because

they are our fellow Americans.

:

01:02:58,135 --> 01:02:59,505

He is now the president.

:

01:02:59,575 --> 01:03:01,115

Nothing we can do about that now.

:

01:03:01,355 --> 01:03:03,455

So let me hear just a

final thought from each.

:

01:03:03,545 --> 01:03:04,095

Not a fine.

:

01:03:04,095 --> 01:03:07,545

I just want to hear what's your,

what's your plan to move forward

:

01:03:07,565 --> 01:03:11,765

and to be able to get along and

listen to your fellow Americans.

:

01:03:12,815 --> 01:03:13,775

Sandy, I'll start with you.

:

01:03:14,465 --> 01:03:17,105

Sandy Hill Giusti: Well, what I'd

like to do is to be able to sit down

:

01:03:17,105 --> 01:03:20,835

with people who think differently than

me and have a civil discussion with

:

01:03:20,835 --> 01:03:23,075

them without it turning emotional.

:

01:03:23,565 --> 01:03:26,015

And I'm not saying they're the

only ones that would get emotional.

:

01:03:27,705 --> 01:03:30,085

Um, that's what I would like to do.

:

01:03:30,195 --> 01:03:35,485

Uh, you know, sort of what we have

been doing is not talking about

:

01:03:35,485 --> 01:03:37,755

anything, talking about the weather.

:

01:03:38,315 --> 01:03:40,225

And this is what I struggle with.

:

01:03:40,505 --> 01:03:43,395

I struggle that you, that's

not the way to go forward.

:

01:03:44,235 --> 01:03:48,715

Um, I guess as I'm talking, I'm thinking,

you know, all you can do is try to

:

01:03:48,715 --> 01:03:53,815

put yourself in somebody else's shoes,

what, you know, try to understand how

:

01:03:53,815 --> 01:03:55,915

they think and why they think that.

:

01:03:56,425 --> 01:03:59,595

And then at the end of it all,

all we can do is be nice to each

:

01:03:59,595 --> 01:04:00,775

other, be kind to each other.

:

01:04:01,805 --> 01:04:02,815

Tony Tidbit: Thanks Bryan.

:

01:04:04,045 --> 01:04:05,115

Bryan Mullen: I got to be honest with you.

:

01:04:05,375 --> 01:04:06,435

I live in New York City.

:

01:04:08,495 --> 01:04:13,780

I'm not super interested in, uh,

Trying to figure out why a Trump

:

01:04:13,780 --> 01:04:16,560

voter voted the way they did.

:

01:04:17,130 --> 01:04:21,300

I'm not, because it's because

I don't think I'm gonna

:

01:04:21,300 --> 01:04:22,300

like what they have to say.

:

01:04:22,310 --> 01:04:26,660

Now I have some friends, some Jewish

friends that were single issue voters.

:

01:04:27,020 --> 01:04:29,790

They thought Harris and

Biden were soft on Israel.

:

01:04:29,850 --> 01:04:32,500

I think that's factually incorrect.

:

01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:34,970

I've made my point to them.

:

01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,120

I've had problems with people like that.

:

01:04:38,180 --> 01:04:41,650

I've had people that have sort

of shunned me now because they're

:

01:04:41,810 --> 01:04:43,980

suggesting I'm anti Israel.

:

01:04:43,980 --> 01:04:44,730

And I'm just like.

:

01:04:45,305 --> 01:04:50,295

No, I'm not you're you're not

actually seeing the full picture and

:

01:04:50,295 --> 01:04:51,665

I get that you're close to Israel.

:

01:04:51,665 --> 01:04:57,505

You're Jewish I'm not but I'm sorry

you so I'm sort of I saw that question

:

01:04:57,904 --> 01:05:02,325

and I was just like I don't know Do I

want to bang my head against the wall?

:

01:05:03,435 --> 01:05:04,005

Not really.

:

01:05:04,855 --> 01:05:05,505

Tony Tidbit: Okay, buddy.

:

01:05:05,595 --> 01:05:06,005

Bryan Mullen: Okay.

:

01:05:06,035 --> 01:05:09,510

I what I hope happens is

People see the real Trump.

:

01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:10,980

They'll see that tariffs are stupid.

:

01:05:11,340 --> 01:05:13,279

They'll see that

deportations are expensive.

:

01:05:13,529 --> 01:05:15,540

They'll see that inflation will get worse.

:

01:05:15,740 --> 01:05:17,490

They'll see that the sto I

mean, I don't hope this happens.

:

01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:19,740

But the stock market won't be as good.

:

01:05:19,850 --> 01:05:21,560

Like, like, he stinks.

:

01:05:22,540 --> 01:05:22,740

Alyssa Maglione: Awful.

:

01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:24,400

Bryan Mullen: On every freaking level.

:

01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,240

Sandy Hill Giusti: I know, I've

said many times, I hope they

:

01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:28,350

all get what they vote for.

:

01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:29,320

What they voted for.

:

01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,590

Yeah, like,

:

01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,279

Bryan Mullen: for me to tell

them, there's no impact.

:

01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:35,310

There's no impact.

:

01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:35,890

Sorry.

:

01:05:36,535 --> 01:05:37,705

Tony Tidbit: No, no, no, I love it.

:

01:05:37,775 --> 01:05:43,195

I'm glad we're doing I'm glad we're

doing pull up speak up because Alyssa

:

01:05:46,465 --> 01:05:50,495

Alyssa Maglione: I agree with both

you both of you like like why I keep

:

01:05:50,505 --> 01:05:53,945

banging my head against the wall However,

I but then on the other side of it.

:

01:05:53,945 --> 01:06:00,200

It's like there's so much of me that

believe just believes there's something,

:

01:06:00,580 --> 01:06:03,290

some way, somehow I can maybe get through.

:

01:06:03,330 --> 01:06:08,070

And it's, I know that's

probably just hopeful.

:

01:06:08,180 --> 01:06:14,130

Um, but like, but the overarching

thing here and something that I think

:

01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,450

really bothers me and I would really.

:

01:06:17,335 --> 01:06:21,695

We're really hope people at

some point start to think about

:

01:06:21,695 --> 01:06:24,255

is how privileged we all are.

:

01:06:24,935 --> 01:06:30,555

We are all incredibly privileged to live

in this country, regardless of your race,

:

01:06:30,725 --> 01:06:32,955

your gender, or your socioeconomic status.

:

01:06:34,195 --> 01:06:38,365

We are privileged because of

the freedoms that the democracy

:

01:06:38,585 --> 01:06:39,895

we live in has granted us.

:

01:06:40,895 --> 01:06:45,005

And we as a collective

society share those freedoms.

:

01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:50,680

Now, that does not mean that there

aren't, there are people living

:

01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,420

in this country that do not get

the same treatment as others.

:

01:06:54,450 --> 01:07:01,450

I'm not ignorant to that, but inherently

we all share the same freedoms

:

01:07:01,450 --> 01:07:05,560

because that's what the constitution

grants us and this is where we live.

:

01:07:06,010 --> 01:07:10,000

So, I think that most

people in this country.

:

01:07:10,620 --> 01:07:15,660

I would say the vast majority of people

in this country take that for granted and

:

01:07:15,890 --> 01:07:20,800

forget that that's why so many people are

trying to get into this country because of

:

01:07:20,810 --> 01:07:23,300

the horror that they're living elsewhere.

:

01:07:24,420 --> 01:07:30,250

And I just think we are constantly just

Everything we take for granted and we

:

01:07:30,250 --> 01:07:36,080

complain about every single possible thing

there is to complain about, and I just

:

01:07:36,140 --> 01:07:41,130

really hope moving forward, we can maybe

start to realize how lucky we are that

:

01:07:41,130 --> 01:07:45,800

we can complain that we can sit on this

podcast and say what we feel and what

:

01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,400

we want without worrying when I shut my

computer that I might have a hit on me.

:

01:07:50,875 --> 01:07:55,815

Because that's the reality of

what might be in a year or two

:

01:07:55,835 --> 01:07:57,235

with Donald Trump president.

:

01:07:58,545 --> 01:08:04,625

The fact that the house of representatives

had to pass a bill the other day

:

01:08:04,904 --> 01:08:09,535

to protect people so that he can't

do what he says he's going to do.

:

01:08:09,785 --> 01:08:13,173

If they speak out against

him, that's outrageous.

:

01:08:13,173 --> 01:08:18,104

We live in the United States of America.

:

01:08:18,125 --> 01:08:18,625

And I just.

:

01:08:19,310 --> 01:08:24,529

Regardless of who you support or vote

for or whatever your reasons are, I'm

:

01:08:24,529 --> 01:08:26,100

not going to change someone's mind.

:

01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:29,420

But I do hope that people

can come back to that.

:

01:08:29,630 --> 01:08:31,170

You're lucky you can vote.

:

01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:35,090

You are so you are granted that freedom.

:

01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:36,700

I hope that it doesn't get taken away.

:

01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:42,479

Chris P. Reed: I'd like to stick with

you on this, Alyssa, please, and kind

:

01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,930

of projecting into the future for

generations to come and and the idea

:

01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:50,790

of things being so up in the air of

things that we've always known to be

:

01:08:50,930 --> 01:08:55,300

American ideals and principles, because

the reality of it is, as you said about

:

01:08:55,309 --> 01:08:56,670

reproductive rights and other things.

:

01:08:56,865 --> 01:08:59,234

So many things that we've held,

you know, kind of hung our

:

01:08:59,234 --> 01:09:00,745

hat on are being taken away.

:

01:09:00,774 --> 01:09:01,115

Alyssa Maglione: Yeah,

:

01:09:01,175 --> 01:09:01,455

Chris P. Reed: right.

:

01:09:01,505 --> 01:09:04,785

And we're thinking that we're

bracing ourselves for the opportunity

:

01:09:04,785 --> 01:09:05,944

for more things to be taken away.

:

01:09:05,944 --> 01:09:09,934

So as you talk to the younger generation

in order to sustain a more perfect

:

01:09:09,934 --> 01:09:12,565

union, what advice would you give them?

:

01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:18,130

You know, engaging in political

iscourse after now, like post:

:

01:09:18,440 --> 01:09:22,890

how do they, how do they take the baton

and make America, uh, what it should

:

01:09:22,890 --> 01:09:24,069

be or what, what the promise was.

:

01:09:24,529 --> 01:09:25,290

Tony Tidbit: Keep it tight.

:

01:09:25,330 --> 01:09:26,460

Keep your answer tight.

:

01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:31,569

Alyssa Maglione: Um, I, first

of all, you have to be careful.

:

01:09:31,569 --> 01:09:33,720

Your words are, they're powerful.

:

01:09:34,354 --> 01:09:35,194

They're powerful.

:

01:09:35,194 --> 01:09:36,104

They hold weight.

:

01:09:36,455 --> 01:09:40,115

So, and then the other part of this

is don't believe everything you

:

01:09:40,115 --> 01:09:45,654

hear and see dot, dot, dot on social

media, because that's just not how you

:

01:09:45,654 --> 01:09:47,415

should be consuming your information.

:

01:09:47,434 --> 01:09:49,765

I think we need to start educating kids.

:

01:09:50,415 --> 01:09:57,725

Like truly educating them on how our

government works and, um, maybe so that

:

01:09:57,745 --> 01:10:01,795

they can better understand the way that

things internally work so that they can

:

01:10:01,815 --> 01:10:04,375

understand what your vote really means.

:

01:10:06,415 --> 01:10:08,975

Chris P. Reed: So, so Bryan, for

you with the next generation, how to

:

01:10:09,135 --> 01:10:13,015

sustain or form a more perfect union,

what advice would you provide to them

:

01:10:13,045 --> 01:10:14,779

to make sure that they can, you know,

:

01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,330

Bryan Mullen: I don't know if they'd

listen to me, because I'm an old fart.

:

01:10:19,770 --> 01:10:21,800

And I would just say educate yourself.

:

01:10:22,570 --> 01:10:26,020

You know, if you just sort of blow in

and hear a podcast, Trump's talking

:

01:10:26,020 --> 01:10:30,840

on Joe Rogan or he's talking on one

of these other young male podcasts.

:

01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,430

Well, I mean, there's

nobody fact checking him.

:

01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:35,770

There's nobody doing anything.

:

01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:40,470

Um, so I would say try to educate

yourself with multiple forms.

:

01:10:40,885 --> 01:10:41,915

Of information.

:

01:10:42,825 --> 01:10:43,455

Um,

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again, I don't, I don't know.

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I almost think people have to learn, like

we all have failure in our lives, right?

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And we learn from failure.

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And I think, I think everyone's

going to have a personal

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failure who voted for Trump.

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Chris P. Reed: Sandy, same thing for you.

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Next generation.

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How do you, you know, help them

to, to generate a more perfect

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union in post:

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Sandy Hill Giusti: I think the only way

you make change is starting with yourself.

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And I think people need to self

reflect, you know, really dive

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into what they feel and how they

feel about the world around them.

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And most importantly, get involved.

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In your local community right

now, be involved in whether you're

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01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:34,059

involved in politics or you're

involved in voting, you know, and

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vote from dog catcher, right on up.

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Um, because so many young people

are just not engaged with it at all.

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Or they hop in on the last minute.

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Tony Tidbit: Got it.

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Well, listen, we want to

thank you guys for coming on.

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Pull up, speak up and being part

of the inaugural round tables,

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uh, series really appreciate

your candor, your, your thoughts.

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This was outstanding.

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I'd be honest with you.

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I've learned some things, uh,

just by listening to you guys.

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Right.

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And, um, you know, so I'm so

excited, really appreciate it.

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And we want you guys to stay right

there because you guys are going

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to help us with our call to action.

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So I think it's now

time for Tony's tidbit.

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All right.

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So the tidbit.

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Today is this.

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Great nations aren't defined by

the absence of conflict, but by the

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presence of honest conversations.

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We don't have to agree to respect

one another, but we must listen

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if we want to move forward.

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And you heard a lot of that

today from our esteemed panel.

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Chris P. Reed: Absolutely.

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So we also want to make sure that

before we get out of here, we remind

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you guys to tune in to our weekly

segment, Need to Know with Dr.

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01:12:47,705 --> 01:12:50,885

Nsenga Burton, a Black

Executive Perspective podcast.

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01:12:51,175 --> 01:12:52,075

Is a place where Dr.

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01:12:52,075 --> 01:12:55,235

Burton dives into timely and crucial

topics that shape our community and

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01:12:55,235 --> 01:12:59,605

world tuning in to gain her unique

insights as she shares some of her

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01:12:59,605 --> 01:13:01,885

experiences and her education with us.

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01:13:01,975 --> 01:13:04,275

As far as the things that we need

to know, you don't want to miss it.

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01:13:04,945 --> 01:13:05,635

Tony Tidbit: Absolutely.

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01:13:05,635 --> 01:13:06,555

You don't want to miss her.

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01:13:06,555 --> 01:13:08,425

And I hope you enjoyed today's episode.

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01:13:08,805 --> 01:13:12,715

The first episode of pull up,

speak up post election breakdown,

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01:13:12,945 --> 01:13:14,705

reflections and realities.

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01:13:15,650 --> 01:13:18,220

Chris P. Reed: And at this time,

we definitely want to create a

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01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:23,260

passionate aspect of helping you

guys help us in our call to action.

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01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:24,870

Remember to incorporate.

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01:13:24,940 --> 01:13:25,220

L.

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01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:25,460

E.

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01:13:25,460 --> 01:13:25,710

S.

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S.

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our goal is to eliminate all forms

of discrimination and to achieve this

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by asking everyone to embrace less L.

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01:13:32,620 --> 01:13:32,780

E.

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01:13:32,780 --> 01:13:33,010

S.

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01:13:33,010 --> 01:13:33,210

S.

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Alyssa.

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Please kick us off with this.

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Alyssa Maglione: Sure.

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01:13:37,735 --> 01:13:42,065

L stands for learn, educate yourself

on racial and cultural nuances.

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Bryan Mullen: E is for empathy.

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Um, we all need to be open

to understanding, uh, diverse

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01:13:50,495 --> 01:13:53,835

ideas and feelings, but we

all need to be empathetic.

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01:13:54,705 --> 01:13:58,255

Sandy Hill Giusti: And S stands

for share, sharing your insights to

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01:13:58,255 --> 01:14:00,965

enlighten others in a respectful and.

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01:14:01,430 --> 01:14:03,270

Not only speaking, but listening way.

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01:14:03,890 --> 01:14:04,610

Tony Tidbit: Absolutely.

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And the final S stands for stop.

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01:14:06,500 --> 01:14:10,290

You want to actively stop

discrimination as it walks in your path.

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01:14:10,559 --> 01:14:13,090

So if grandma says something at

the Thanksgiving table that's

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01:14:13,090 --> 01:14:17,760

inappropriate, you say, grandma, we

don't believe that we don't say that.

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01:14:18,025 --> 01:14:19,545

And you stop it right there.

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01:14:19,705 --> 01:14:25,875

So if everyone can incorporate less

L E S S we'll build a more fair, more

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01:14:25,925 --> 01:14:30,145

understanding world, and we'll all be

able to see the change that we want

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01:14:30,145 --> 01:14:32,965

to see because less will become more.

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01:14:34,345 --> 01:14:36,385

Chris P. Reed: We want to thank

the panelists and the audience

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01:14:36,385 --> 01:14:38,115

again for tuning into this episode.

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01:14:38,145 --> 01:14:41,684

Please check out previous episodes for

things that we've discussed, but also

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01:14:41,705 --> 01:14:44,065

be looking forward to future episodes.

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01:14:44,235 --> 01:14:48,595

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being touched by the world around them.

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And I had a wonderful time to

learn a lot, but Tony, how can

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Tony Tidbit: buddy?

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Bryan Mullen, Alyssa Maglione for the co

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host with the most, my boy from Dallas.

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01:15:28,265 --> 01:15:28,845

Chris P.

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Reed.

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I'm Tony tidbit.

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We talked about it today.

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We listened about it.

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I laughed about it a

little bit and we love you.

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