Frontline Initiative author LeAnn Bieber talks about how using tools such as a Health Care Person-Centered Profile and a one-page description can make a positive difference in how a medical appointment can go for everyone.
Read LeAnn's story: The Key to Successful Health Care Appointments through One-page Descriptions
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- Hi, my name is Chet Cheddar,
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Speaker:for Direct Support
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Speaker:with the University of
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Speaker:Community Integration.
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Speaker:a day-to-Day basis as they
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Speaker:and developmental disabilities.
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at current practices,
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Speaker:Today I am gonna be
talking to Leanne Bieber,
Speaker:who wrote an article called The Key
Speaker:to Successful Healthcare Appointments
Speaker:through One Page Descriptions.
Speaker:It was published in frontline
initiatives issue called
Speaker:Direct Support Professionals Supporting
Speaker:People's Health and Wellness.
Speaker:Leanne's gonna talk about how tools such
Speaker:as a healthcare person-centered profile,
Speaker:and a one-page description can
make a medical appointment go
Speaker:better for everybody.
Speaker:So let's get started Today my
guest is Leanne Bieber from
Speaker:Byron Minnesota.
Speaker:We asked her to write
an article for Frontline
Speaker:because of her experience
Speaker:as a person-centered planning instructor,
Speaker:who's also used the
COVID-19 Health Passport
Speaker:with her own daughter Melissa.
Speaker:Welcome, Leanne.
Speaker:We're so happy to have you here today
Speaker:for our very first podcast.
Speaker:- Thank you. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker:- Can you tell us a
little bit about yourself?
Speaker:- I, like you said, I
have a daughter, Melissa,
Speaker:who's 24 years old and has been
labeled with Down Syndrome.
Speaker:She's my pride and joy.
Speaker:She lives with us at home
Speaker:and really that's, that's my
main job, is taking care of her
Speaker:and, and helping her to
be all she wants to be.
Speaker:I also am a person-centered
thinking trainer and planner,
Speaker:and work with a lot of
person-centered processes
Speaker:to help people better their lives or,
Speaker:or get their communication
to other people,
Speaker:what they're looking for.
Speaker:I do a lot of my work through
my job at Olmsted County
Speaker:and then work with providers
on a regular basis to see what
Speaker:we can do to help the people
Speaker:that they're supporting
help them as an agency
Speaker:to support better
Speaker:and just really get the
word out there about
Speaker:person-centered practices.
Speaker:- That sounds great. Leanne,
Speaker:can you tell us about
the tools in the article
Speaker:that you wrote and why they're so helpful
Speaker:for everyone involved in
a medical appointment?
Speaker:We know that medical appointments
can be extremely anxiety
Speaker:driven and difficult for many people,
Speaker:but why is it so important
for like your daughter
Speaker:and others who might
need that extra support?
Speaker:- Absolutely. First impressions
are always so important
Speaker:with anybody and anywhere you are
Speaker:the first impression that you give.
Speaker:And many times when someone has a label
Speaker:or a a diagnosis of some
sort, that is the first thing
Speaker:that people hear about somebody,
Speaker:and it really gives that
whole medical version of who
Speaker:that person is, where you're missing,
Speaker:who the person really is,
Speaker:and you're missing really how a person
Speaker:wants to be supported.
Speaker:The one page description is a
great way to help get someone,
Speaker:the informa, give someone the information
Speaker:that they're looking for
to start that small talk
Speaker:in any situation.
Speaker:So for instance, a doctor wants
Speaker:to make a person feel more
comfortable as they start talking
Speaker:with them so that they
can get the information
Speaker:that they need as quickly as
possible and move forward.
Speaker:When you have somebody's gifts, strengths
Speaker:and talents on there,
or what someone likes
Speaker:what they do on a regular
basis, that's on a quick
Speaker:two minute read, that
doctor has the ability
Speaker:to start those conversations right away.
Speaker:They, they know a little
bit about the person.
Speaker:It's also a visual, so it helps people
Speaker:to remember these things.
Speaker:So down the road, when Melissa's in
Speaker:for her next appointment,
the doctor's going
Speaker:to remember those conversations even more
Speaker:after all the people that they see it.
Speaker:It helps 'em to really pull that out more.
Speaker:Melissa's one page description
has her picture on it
Speaker:and her smile is infectious,
and I could say it as mom,
Speaker:but I've heard it so many times
Speaker:that she has such an in infectious smile.
Speaker:So that tool itself gives people
a very positive outlook the
Speaker:minute they look at her face
Speaker:and the minute they, they
start to read all of that,
Speaker:and then the section
that talks about how best
Speaker:to support her really gives
that more information of,
Speaker:of the why, why does she
need the extra support,
Speaker:and then how do you do it and,
Speaker:and how do you work through it.
Speaker:So because of those things,
Speaker:that tool is one of my favorites.
Speaker:It just really helps to, to
Speaker:get good conversations started
Speaker:and those critical
conversations that are needed.
Speaker:- It sounds to me like it's
really a win-win situation
Speaker:for the person who's going to the doctor,
Speaker:but also for the doctor
Speaker:or the health professional to
have a better understanding
Speaker:of, you know, who they're
gonna be supporting,
Speaker:who they're gonna be serving
and providing that expertise.
Speaker:- Yes, and you think about
it, you can send this
Speaker:to a doctor in an email
through a portal, through
Speaker:however, so they can re
receive it ahead of time.
Speaker:And again, looking at that
face is gonna put a smile on
Speaker:their face and maybe hopefully
start their day in a very
Speaker:positive outlook as well,
Speaker:and then they're going to be
ready for that appointment.
Speaker:Very important. In our training,
Speaker:we do talk about a scenario
Speaker:where someone had two
appointments in the same day
Speaker:and sent a one page
description to both of them.
Speaker:One had a chance to read it
Speaker:and the other did not, where
the other, the one appointment
Speaker:where they did not get
a chance to read it,
Speaker:they ended up having to
reschedule the appointment
Speaker:because it just didn't go
well, it wasn't successful
Speaker:and the person really struggled.
Speaker:So thinking about having
to reschedule appointments
Speaker:that are hard to get
into in the first place
Speaker:versus having a successful,
successful appointment
Speaker:that sets everybody up
for a really good day
Speaker:and for great treatment
options to go forward.
Speaker:- Yeah. The other thing I was
thinking about, Leanne, was
Speaker:how great it is a, it's
great for everybody,
Speaker:but especially for people
who maybe don't use
Speaker:words language, ver vocal
language to be able to interact
Speaker:with the physician, that
it gives some conversation,
Speaker:it gives them the physicians
something to talk about
Speaker:because they know what that
individual is interested in.
Speaker:What do you think about that?
Speaker:- Yeah, I agree. It, it definitely does.
Speaker:It gives a, I don't always
like the word empowerment,
Speaker:but really an empowerment to that person.
Speaker:If, when you look at Melissa's
one page description,
Speaker:one thing that's in there is
that it says that she likes
Speaker:to be independent, and it's hard for her
Speaker:to be independent when
she does not use words
Speaker:to speak when she relies
on me in a lot of ways.
Speaker:So when a doctor can say, Melissa,
Speaker:I I see you love the show Heartland,
Speaker:and you love, love horses,
Speaker:Melissa will get a smile on her face
Speaker:and it will be something
that will help her
Speaker:to at least be a little
more intently listening so
Speaker:that she can be involved
in the conversation.
Speaker:She may not give her,
give a lot of information,
Speaker:but it does give her that
ability to be involved
Speaker:and be as independent as
she can in that moment.
Speaker:- Right. And I would think
Speaker:that it also is just gonna
make her feel more comfortable
Speaker:because that physician like took the time
Speaker:and is interested in her
as a person, like really
Speaker:sees who she is.
Speaker:The other thing that I, I
learned from Melissa's one page
Speaker:description was when you wrote about
Speaker:if you think something's
gonna take a certain amount
Speaker:of time, it's gonna take longer than that.
Speaker:So give that space
Speaker:and know that if you interrupt that time,
Speaker:it starts again at zero.
Speaker:How insightful for anybody
to have that information.
Speaker:- Right. And, and honestly, a
lot of people need that space.
Speaker:They need that time,
Speaker:and not just necessarily
somebody with a disability,
Speaker:but many people process in that way.
Speaker:So being able to tell somebody that in,
Speaker:in this way we're talking
about a medical doctor
Speaker:or a dentist
Speaker:or something like that,
I use these one page page
Speaker:descriptions at work as
well for supervisors to have
Speaker:that same ability to
know, you know, this is
Speaker:how you best support the person,
Speaker:and they need some time
to figure some things out
Speaker:to move forward with the conversation.
Speaker:So knowing that you can, that the little
Speaker:pause is something that's very
helpful for someone to help
Speaker:with that processing.
Speaker:- Yeah, I, I love that you
brought up that it's a tool
Speaker:that can be used at work as well and,
Speaker:and really at home really in
Speaker:so many different places in your life.
Speaker:And how cool if DSPs as, as a group
Speaker:of staff members we're able to do
Speaker:a one page description for themselves
Speaker:and then that share that with each other.
Speaker:You would just learn so much,
so much about your coworkers
Speaker:and how to, to better support them,
Speaker:and they can better
understand you as well.
Speaker:- Yeah. Melissa has a
few different respite
Speaker:individuals that are in her life,
Speaker:and one had started supporting her one day
Speaker:and had taken her to Dairy
Queen, and she called me
Speaker:and I hadn't had the opportunity to,
Speaker:to share Melissa's one
page description, which
Speaker:that was really on me.
Speaker:I needed to, to get that
information to her right away.
Speaker:But anyway, she called me at Dairy Queen
Speaker:and she says, you know, we,
she was in such a great mood,
Speaker:we were doing really well.
Speaker:We got her ice cream,
Speaker:and all of a sudden she got
very frustrated and upset and a
Speaker:and just, now I, I can't seem
to figure out what to do.
Speaker:And I, I asked her right away, I said,
Speaker:are there any children around?
Speaker:And she says, well, yeah,
as a matter of fact,
Speaker:a birthday party just walked in the door
Speaker:and young children running around and,
Speaker:and causing, you know, they
were laughing and giggling
Speaker:and having fun, but for some reason
Speaker:that's a trigger for Melissa.
Speaker:So I was able to tell her
that is that, you know, I,
Speaker:I do have this one page
description to share with you.
Speaker:This is a trigger.
Speaker:They moved out on the deck
at the Dairy Queen and,
Speaker:and it was, they had a,
a good time after that.
Speaker:So again, another place where
Speaker:that one page description would've been
Speaker:so helpful for her right away.
Speaker:- Right, right.
Speaker:Are there any other
tools that are available
Speaker:besides a one page description?
Speaker:- There are many tools
Speaker:that are available within
person-centered processes,
Speaker:like a what's working
not, which gets into a lot
Speaker:of different perspectives
Speaker:and how you can really
determine conflicts like
Speaker:where someone like maybe
A DSP is in conflict
Speaker:with someone they're supporting,
Speaker:but you can't figure out why
when it's really as simple
Speaker:as this person D doesn't like
the way something's been done,
Speaker:and the DSP has always done it that way.
Speaker:Or maybe it's that a, a family
member does something one way
Speaker:and A DSP does it differently
Speaker:and that person is struggling
with the two differences.
Speaker:So that's another great tool
Speaker:to really look at conflict resolution.
Speaker:It also is a really great
way to pull out goals.
Speaker:So doing some goal setting
to where people want
Speaker:to go go next with something.
Speaker:That's one. There are so
many examples of, that's one
Speaker:of the more popular ones,
Speaker:but Melissa also has a
communication chart that she uses
Speaker:because she doesn't
use many words to speak
Speaker:or chooses when she uses those words.
Speaker:Being able to understand those things,
Speaker:like when there's a child running around
Speaker:and she's getting upset
in somewhere, we have
Speaker:that down on a chart that really
looks at her communication
Speaker:and then what she wants us
Speaker:to do when these things are happening.
Speaker:Again, I could go on and on, but rituals
Speaker:and routines is another one.
Speaker:We all have different routines
Speaker:and rituals that we do in our lives
Speaker:and being able to write down
what those rule routines are,
Speaker:so, so people understand
that, you know, I'm used
Speaker:to showering in the morning,
Speaker:but now you're having me shower at night
Speaker:and I'm really struggling with this.
Speaker:Or maybe I really like the
change, you know, I used
Speaker:to shower in the morning, but
I like showering at night.
Speaker:It really calms me during the day.
Speaker:So really understanding differences, a lot
Speaker:of tools in that respect.
Speaker:There is also things,
Speaker:something called charting the Life course
Speaker:that really co charts a vision
to where somebody wants to go
Speaker:with their life and then
Speaker:how people can help keep someone
on track with that vision.
Speaker:Many, many other things that are out there
Speaker:that we use on a regular basis.
Speaker:- Sounds like there
are a lot of good tools
Speaker:that can really help.
Speaker:One of the things you
said was planning for
Speaker:what, what and how Melissa
wants you to interact
Speaker:or to handle situations
I think was so important
Speaker:and in such a key component
of a one page description
Speaker:and what does the person want,
Speaker:what's gonna be best for them?
Speaker:It's so individualized,
so I would just like DSPs
Speaker:to remember, you know,
one size does not fit all.
Speaker:Everybody's different in, in
how they're gonna respond and,
Speaker:and what, how they wanna be supported.
Speaker:- Absolutely. Another thing
Speaker:that is real important
is sometimes you can use
Speaker:all these tools.
Speaker:They're real quick and easy.
Speaker:You don't even need a
piece of paper to use them.
Speaker:Sometimes you need a
little more formal process
Speaker:where you are writing down that
what's working, not working,
Speaker:or a communication chart or whatever.
Speaker:When you have that more formal
process, that is something
Speaker:that there are facilitators
that will do that for a group.
Speaker:Many times. Having that
unbiased person come in
Speaker:and be able to really
gather all the information
Speaker:and help the person to
really tell their story
Speaker:really helps somebody to
get down a, a good vision of
Speaker:where they want to go so that it is a,
Speaker:that is an opportunity for people
Speaker:with disabilities at
least to, you know, if,
Speaker:if you want a person-centered plan,
Speaker:there are people within Minnesota
that will do that for you.
Speaker:- Where would you find something like that
Speaker:or someone like that?
Speaker:- A start would be to
contact the Department
Speaker:of Human Services.
Speaker:If you have a case manager,
Speaker:a case manager can
typically find where those,
Speaker:that those individuals are
Speaker:- With there being so many
tools available, Leanne,
Speaker:and it can definitely be
overwhelming, I think for a DSP
Speaker:or frontline frontline
supervisor to know kind of
Speaker:where to start.
Speaker:What would you suggest they
do to kind of get started
Speaker:- Reaching out to a person-centered
thinking trainer would
Speaker:be a really great place to start.
Speaker:If they're not a facilitator,
they can find a facilitator in
Speaker:that area to find a
person-centered Thinking trainer.
Speaker:You could go to the learning community.
Speaker:They have a website that works
on person-centered practices,
Speaker:and that website is tlc pct.org,
Speaker:and then there's a place
Speaker:where you can search
trainers in your area.
Speaker:- Great. Thank you.
Speaker:Leanne, do you have any
final words of encouragement
Speaker:or wisdom that you'd
like to share with the,
Speaker:the listeners about any of the stuff
Speaker:that we talked about today?
Speaker:- Well, I wanna thank you
all for, for those of you
Speaker:that are DSPs and frontline
supervisors, that's a very self,
Speaker:self selfless job
Speaker:and we really appreciate your help.
Speaker:Like I said, my daughter's
at home right now,
Speaker:but when she's ready
to move on her own, I,
Speaker:I really appreciate all
the work that you do
Speaker:and we know it's, it's not always work
Speaker:that you see people value, but we do.
Speaker:We value it very, very much
Speaker:and looking at person-centered
processes is gonna be a
Speaker:win-win for you as well as
the people that you support.
Speaker:So looking at those
processes, using the tools
Speaker:that you can use is only gonna
Speaker:make your your life a lot easier.
Speaker:- Thank you, Leanne, for joining me today.
Speaker:It was a pleasure talking with you
Speaker:and learning more from you about how
Speaker:to really implement person-centered
planning and thinking
Speaker:and different tools
that you shared with us.
Speaker:I also wanna thank the
listeners for tuning in today.
Speaker:We appreciate you.
Speaker:As Leanne said, the work
that you do is so important
Speaker:and we really appreciate it.
Speaker:You can find other
episodes of this podcast
Speaker:and Health Matters for direct support,
Speaker:another podcast produced by the University
Speaker:of Minnesota's Institute on
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Speaker:favorite pod podcast streaming service.
Speaker:Until next time, be kind
to yourself and others.