Ep: 44 Top experts answer: "What could the tech/software vendors do better to serve accountants?"
The Accounting Answers Podcast, hosted by Rob Brown, asks critical questions of the experts, leaders and influencers who shape the decision-making of accountants, CPAs and finance professionals. Today we ask:
What could the tech/software vendors do better to serve accountants?
You'll hear insightful and passionate answers from these 5 experts and influencers:
Amy Horner | Change Enthusiast, Business Strategy Consultant, Keynote Speaker, and Podcast Host
Amy Vetter | CPA, speaker, yogi and CEO of the B3 Method Institute
Andrew Argue | Founder of Instead.com and Corvee.com for smarter tax decisions
Anne-Kathrin Steinröder | Head of the ETL GLOBAL Network of accounting firms
Apoorv Dwivedi | Founder of Fixyr Marketing, strategic marketing advisor for accounting firms
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:role of tech and software vendors
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hear what our experts have to say.
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:Today, we're again, asking
people who care about accounting.
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:A simple question.
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:What role do the tech providers
and software vendors play in
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:the evolution of the industry?
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:Technology's playing an increasingly
crucial role in the accounting profession.
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:And the consensus is the tech industry
needs to step up to meet the evolving
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:demands of accountants, but how exactly.
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:Listening as another five of our
111 influencers and experts share
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:their wisdom and their best insights.
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:Let's hear from Amy Horner, a change
enthusiastic business strategy
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:consultant, keynote speaker, and
podcast host who brings innovative
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:ideas and strategies to businesses.
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:Looking to thrive in changing markets.
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:It's very similar to how accountants
can do better to serve business leaders.
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:Amy Horner: It's the strategy, the
solution, and the offering or repurposing
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:of time while mitigating risk.
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:Instead of saying, here's our off the
shelf solution, just plug it in and
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:everything will be fine, because that is
Nothing could be further from the truth.
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:I have never seen anybody plug in a
new application and it be seamless
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:and easy and wonderful and everyone's
throwing their arms around it
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:and, you know, confetti cannons.
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:It is tough.
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:I spoke not too long ago, to a group with
a large public accounting firm and, and
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:helping them understand when they walk
into the client's office, they're not
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:necessarily seen as a solution, right?
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:They're seen as an expense.
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:Or something we need to do or
something that's going to take a lot
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:of time and so very much the same
is saying I'm here as a solution.
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:I want to understand your business.
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:I want to understand
your challenges, right?
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:That's consultative selling at its
finest understand what's going on.
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:And here's how I can help you, versus
here's how we're going to have to do
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:a key change and remap your entire GL
that, I mean, that's not a good time.
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:Have you ever done that?
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:Have you ever remapped a GL?
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:I've done it once.
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:I will never do it again.
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:Um, next is Amy Vetter.
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:CPA speaker Yogi and CEO of
the B3 method into, to blend
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:in her expertise in accounting.
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:With mindfulness practices to
promote balanced leadership and
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:wellbeing in a professional world.
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:Amy Vetter: My opinion on how the tech
vendors can do better to serve accountants
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:is that they better understand.
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:The day in the life of an account that
they don't call accountants heroes.
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:No accountant is going to
work every day to be a hero.
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:So over and over that has been marketing
speak and tech companies for as long
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:as I can remember that you truly
walk in their shoes and understand
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:why they love this profession.
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:So a lot of times.
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:You know, the value proposition for
many tech vendors is that this will
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:take away this work for you or you
don't have to do that drudgery anymore.
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:And the problem is accountants
like that, like accountants that
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:truly love the work that they do.
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:Like the work that they do.
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:So just like in a diversity sense, if
you are going to work in a profession
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:and serve that profession, it's
important to understand the mindset
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:of that profession and where they
get joy out of the work that they do.
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:In all my years in the tech industry,
being inside tech companies, as well
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:as outside of tech companies, what I
have seen is as a tech company grows,
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:they get further and further away
from innovation and taking risks.
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:And start moving into safety.
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:And that is what deters someone from
wanting to work with that company anymore
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:when they get too large and they're not
coming up with the big ideas anymore.
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:They're not coming up with
the innovation anymore.
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:That it starts looking antiquated when
at one time you joined that software
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:because it was the newest thing.
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:So, my advice to tech companies is
to never lose that passion of why
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:you started in the first place.
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:What actually drives you?
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:What's your purpose?
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:To make sure that you are constantly
innovating and you keep that
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:startup mindset, even if you get
very large and very successful.
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:Joining the conversation now is Andrew
argue the founder of instead.com and
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and individuals make smarter tax decisions
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:through innovative software solutions..
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:Andrew Argue: I think right now there's
like a lot of different tools out there
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:that people use and they're taking.
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:AI and they're bolting it on as like
co pilots and chats and so forth.
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:I think a lot of these companies
though, probably if they were to
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:rebuild their product from the ground
up and make AI, not an add on to what
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:they currently do, but make it the
core of the product, I think you're
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:going to see a better experience.
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:Like, what does it look like when AI
is the core of the general ledger?
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:Or what does it look like when the
AI is the core of the tax preparation
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:and compliance and advisory
process or the core of an audit?
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:And I think the companies that, even if
they are a big company, if they decide
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:to kind of, rebuild their product.
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:From the ground up with that at the
center, I think are going to have
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:a much stronger position and much
better value profit for the firms.
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:think it's hard to say because,
like I said, people still use.
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:10 keys with receipts on them.
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:So it's, hard to say there's, there's
a lot of things today that were built
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:in the seventies and the eighties.
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:So I think that things will linger
on a lot longer than people think.
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:so it's, hard to make some,
like a doomsday prediction that
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:it'll be all doom and gloom for
them or like in the short term.
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:But I do just think it's
sort of managed decline.
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:if they don't make that adaptation, sort
of a secular managed decline versus.
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:Innovation in the future and I do think
eventually the tides will turn and
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:they'll feel pain, but it could take
a while because a lot of businesses
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:are very comfortable where they're at,
and individuals are comfortable where
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:they're at, and the firms are very
comfortable with stuff they're with.
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:And so it probably will take
longer than people think.
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:The technology will be much, you know,
will be much better if they switch, but
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:I think there'll be, there'll be stubborn
groups of people there for a while.
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:It'll keep those companies afloat.
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:And now insights from I'm Katherine
Stein, Rhoda headed the ETL global
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:network of accounting firms, where
she spearheads initiatives to foster
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:collaboration and innovation across
the global accounting landscape.
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:Ann-Kathrin Steinroder: I think
that's a two directions thing.
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:It's not only that, software vendors
can do better to serve accountants,
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:but it's also the accountants who
have to do something for it because
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:there's always a language barrier.
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:So both.
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:Both sides need to understand each other.
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:So, usually software developers
and tech vendors don't really
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:understand what accountants are doing.
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:And the other way around accountants
don't understand what software
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:developers are doing and what
they need to know to develop the
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:perfect, well systems for them.
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:So in that sense, both.
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:sides need to be open or more open to
understand each other and, and work
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:together on, well, the perfect solution.
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:And I think it's the same thing
everywhere, even in my whole
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:household appliances at home.
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:If I look at my coffee machine,
you always wonder like, okay,
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:what did the developer think?
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:Did he ever make a cup of coffee
himself when he developed this?
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:Software to make this appliance work.
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:So it's the same thing in accounting.
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:I think that basically the developer needs
to understand what the task is and what
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:in the end the user experience is like.
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:And on the other hand, well, there's also
an obligation from, from the receiving
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:part to tell exactly what he's needing.
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:So it's a language thing.
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:We now turn to our pod Dwivedi founder
of fixer marketing, a strategic
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:marketing advisor for accounting firms,
bringing cutting edge strategies to the
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:forefront of accounting firm growth.
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:Appoorv Dwivedi: you know,
again, I come from, marketing
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:and customer research background.
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:So I'm always about the
client and about the customer.
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:So, you know, if I think if I
look at the tech industry and the
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:accounting software vendors, they're
out there, particularly the big ones.
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:How can they better serve accountants?
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:They can better serve accountants
by better serving accountants.
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:customers.
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:So if they better understand what
clients are demanding of their
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:accountants, then they can help the
accountants to deliver that right.
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:And you know, I go back to something
I said previously, but it's not a
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:one size fits all solution, right?
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:For some, maybe it
means faster for others.
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:Maybe it's does it allow them to be
cheaper or does it allow them provide
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:more communications and more touch points.
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:Does it allow them to provide
more reporting or insights or
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:other value as well, right?
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:So, um, but, you know, I, I think the,
the vendors that figure that out, um,
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:and really understand how their tools are
being used by accountants for the benefits
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:of their customers, um, are the ones that,
um, are really going to win going forward.
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