Timothy Schultz:

Welcome to Lottery, Dreams and Fortune. I am so excited to be joined here right now with Andrew Kap. He is the author of The Last Law of Attraction Book You'll Ever Need to Read. Andrew Kap, welcome to the program today. How are you doing?

Andrew Kap:

Timothy, I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me. I'm really looking forward to this conversation and wherever we might take it.

Timothy Schultz:

Absolutely. Thank you for being here. It's really interesting. Right around a year ago, we hosted an anonymous lottery winner on this podcast only known as Ashley. She won a little over $300,000. She actually believes in manifestation. She attributed her win, at least partially, to something she learned in your book. She did scripting and it was very interesting. I want to play a clip for you and just get your reaction to this.

Anonymous Lottery Winner:

Before I won, I had this burning desire. It felt like if I didn't go get these tickets, it was going to be the end of the world. I think we just won over $300,000. He was like "No," and I was like "No, I'm serious." It was still a whirlwind. That amount of money is life-changing.

Timothy Schultz:

Do you believe that you manifested this win?

Anonymous Lottery Winner:

A million percent believe that it is.

Timothy Schultz:

You just saw this clip. I want to get your reaction. What do you think about this? She went on in the interview to talk about scripting as being something that she did, that she learned from your book. What are your thoughts on this?

Andrew Kap:

Obviously, it's very exciting to hear. This isn't about my book. This isn't about my content. To be perfectly forthcoming, scripting was a thing before I ever wrote my book, but it doesn't come as a surprise to me when someone reports this kind of result. I did an interview with somebody else where she manifested 1.6 million in 16 months, and scripting was the foundation of her practice and her process. For something like that, that wasn't a lottery win. She was also a very savvy businesswoman in this case. The thing about manifestation, and a lot of people don't get this if they hear about manifestation very casually, is it's not just the universe giving you everything. It's your cooperation with the universe in which you do what's within your control and the universe handles what's not within your control, so long as you do your part to be vibrationally aligned with it.

Timothy Schultz:

Your cooperation with it. What do you mean by that?

Andrew Kap:

It's actually way simpler than people might think. Cooperation with the universe simply means the understanding that everything is energy. Like attracts like. Believe it or not, the universe is actually very abundant in nature. For anyone out there who's frustrated, who wants more, who is impatient, they're actually inadvertently working against themselves. If they took their foot off the gas and they gave themselves some space to breathe a little, good stuff naturally happens. When I say being a cooperative component with the universe, it's really just a recognition of if you breathe, if you relax, if you start to visualize or have gratitude for, or use scripting as an example, of putting out the energy, putting out the vibration of things that you want happening, of feeling good while thinking about what you have or what you want or both, the universe almost has no choice but to respond to that signal and give you that versus an older signal where you were not intentionally putting the stuff out there. We get surrounded by patterns each and every day. We read negative news. We hear people complaining. Being exposed to that will keep us in a state of lack or in a mentality of lack. But if we intentionally say, "I'm just going to take a few minutes out a day at least and focus on something else instead, something I want, something good, something that gives me good emotion," that in and of itself is more than enough for the universe to hear that signal and say "Okay, this is what this person wants. Therefore, this is what I'm going to give to them."

Timothy Schultz:

I want to get more on this in a second. With this scripting, backing up just a little bit, if that's one of the ways where you do put out this intention, some people listening to this don't even know what scripting is. What is scripting? How do people typically use it? Why do you think that it's effective for some and maybe not everyone, or maybe you think it is for everyone? What is it?

Andrew Kap:

Scripting is basically journaling about your life as you want it to be as if you're already living it, meaning you're writing things out in the present tense. For example, anyone out there who wants a big job promotion, they're not scripting "Please let me get this promotion. Please let me get this promotion." They're saying, "I'm so grateful for this awesome promotion that I'm enjoying. Here are the cool things about it. I love my new corner office. I love the people I'm working with," whatever it might be. They're scripting with those details, scripting the way I teach it. When people read other law of attraction books, they tend to get stuck in this rigid structure of the person gave these instructions, and if they don't follow them to the letter, they're doing something wrong and they're not going to get what they want. Whereas I teach more of a "Here's clear instructions. Follow it to the letter if you want, but have flexibility to what you want." Scripting can be handwritten. You can literally write this out on a notepad. If that cramps your hand up, you can type it out on a keyboard. If you don't like that, you could literally speak it. That's something I do every day actually. I pull out my phone, I turn on the voice memo, and I talk about my life. I talk about stuff that's actually here already, but I also talk about stuff in the future as if it's already here.

Andrew Kap:

There can be written scripting, typed scripting, spoken scripting. To answer your final question, it does work so long as people do it in a way that it's not contradicting itself. There could be the person who's scripting and they're gritting their teeth and they're like, "This will make it happen." When they're putting down the details like that, they're putting out the signal, the emotion of not having it even though they think they're writing it down. Whereas if they just breathe and relax and genuinely feel good about what they're writing down, then they're actually putting out the energy. It's one thing to try to force it and having patience, and concern yourself with not only the timing but the manner with which the universe gives it to you. It's another one to say, "I am genuinely grateful for this thing. I'm happy in the meantime. I have no agenda on how the universe and when the universe is supposed to give this to me. Therefore, I'm open for so much more possibility. I'm open for a lottery win, but I'm also open for an inheritance. I'm open for a book idea. I'm open for an investment decision. I'm open for anything that might bring abundance or happiness or success or vitality or whatever else I want to me."

Timothy Schultz:

It's not so much about the timing. So many people do get caught up in the timing. You're saying that it's not how it comes, but just being open to it.

Andrew Kap:

Here's where the nuance comes in. Let's actually use deadline as an example. Some people say, "I'm going to get this thing in 90 days. I'm going to win the lottery in 90 day." Now there's two types of personalities. There's one where they say that and they wake up the next day and they're excited. Now it's only 89 days to the lottery. They wake up the day. Now it's only 88. This is awesome, right? There's another personality, my personality, where if I say that and I wake up, I'm like "Oh no. I've only got 89 days left to make this happen." I wake up and I'm like "Oh no, I only have 88 days to make this happen." It always comes down to how you feel. When you put in a time constraint or you put in a deadline or you put in whatever, if that makes you feel more aligned, if that actually excites you, if there's a genuine sense of confidence, I say awesome, do that, because that works for certain people. If there's a hesitation, if there's a pull, if there's a worry, if there's a doubt, if there's a fear and uncertainty, I'd say "Why not relax? Be assured that the universe has got this. Acknowledge that you're doing your part in the meantime and let it pleasantly surprise you, sometimes a lot quicker than you might have even been wanting to in the first place."

Timothy Schultz:

How important are the words that you say or you write down versus the feeling of it? Some people argue that the feeling of it matters much more than the actual words. What is your perspective on that?

Andrew Kap:

I don't view it as this is better than this. I view it is another cooperation. We strategically choose words that resonate with us personally to get emotions that we want. The well-known term, anyone that's followed law of attraction knows, "I'm so happy and grateful now that." I think Bob Proctor may have been the first person to introduce that. That's a wonderful term on paper. If that doesn't resonate with you, if you feel awkward, you've never said that before in your life, and all of a sudden you read a law of attraction book and it says to do that, you're like "It feels like a mismatch of energy." Maybe it'll get there eventually, but you could just as easily say, "This is what excites me about what I'm getting" or "This is what excites me about what I have." What terminology do you use as your own personality, your own figures of speech? I say you go with that, because when you go with that it feels natural to you. It feels good. That's the whole point.

Timothy Schultz:

I've met and interviewed quite a few people that have won the lottery. Some of these people, a fair number, believe that they have manifested their wins, including Ashley, who read your book. What do you think is actually happening when someone wins a major prize, whether it's the lottery or anything really, and then they attribute it to the law of attraction or manifestation?

Andrew Kap:

I believe whether or not they attribute it to the law of attraction or manifestation, everyone does manifest. It's in direct correlation with their intentional or unintentional alignment. You speak to all these people that win the lottery. I imagine a lot of them have stories like "I scripted. I visualized. I felt like it was on the way. It was really exciting." Those are examples of people that were very proactive in terms of their energy and their alignment, because they had an innate understanding that that was a strategic advantage towards aligning the energy so that the thing could happen for them. Obviously, there's other people that win the lottery that never did that. They were still aligned to it, but for them, buying the lottery ticket felt enough vibrationally aligned for them that that was all that was needed. People hear that and they're gritting their teeth like "Oh my God, I'm doing all these exercises. I'm doing all this scripting. That person only had to buy a ticket. They didn't have to worry about it? That's not fair." It's not about fair. It's about what works to get anyone listening personally aligned. I'm a guy that knows that it works this way, so I do this every day. I find a way of making it fun. That way, when another person wins the lottery just because they bought a ticket, I don't have to be jealous because what I got that they didn't get was I got the enjoyment every day of feeling good about all the things in my life, about all the friends in my life, about my health, about my vitality, about my money, about abundance. I got to enjoy the process of manifesting and bringing this about. Everyone, in my opinion, manifests. They just do it in different ways, some consciously, some subconsciously.

Timothy Schultz:

How do you feel good if something happens and maybe you're having a bad day, for example, if you lose the lottery and you don't feel good? Some people at least will be disappointed and feel bummed out about that. Whether it's that or a promotion or anything in life and it doesn't go the way you want, how do you reframe that in your mind? How do you feel good about that? That's what you're doing, right?

Andrew Kap:

Right. Not that you said this, Timothy, but I imagine certain people are going for this. I personally don't try to manifest a perfect life. I manifest a really awesome one. What I mean by that is the promotion not happening to me is not the end of the world. Even though that would honestly really annoy me if it happens to me, I'm like "How do I either use this to my advantage or just make an advantage either way?" Here's the beauty of it. We're on the topic of lottery. You don't have to feel good about money in order to manifest money. The universe already knows that you want money. All you have to do is feel good, meaning if I go and I try to win the lottery and I don't get it, I'm like "What can I do constructively for myself that's still going to get me aligned for money in the future?" I'm going to be grateful for what I have, but maybe they don't have a lot. Actually, you do.

Andrew Kap:

First of all, anyone who's listening to this right now, they have a device that does amazing things for them. It runs their email. They've got their bank app. They've got their dating app. They've got their investment app." All the things that you are hearing or watching this interview on, that's serving you in amazing ways. If you can't be grateful for that, imagine someone took it away from you and how upsetting that would be. All of a sudden, you're really grateful. It's like the person that stubs their toe. All of a sudden, they're grateful for walking normally. The person that injures their hand, all of the sudden they're grateful for the ability to open a jar without any pain. The example I always go to is my heart that's been beating in my chest every second of every minute of every hour of every day of every week of every month of every year of every decade I've been alive, if I can't be grateful for that, I've got a lot bigger problems than not winning the lottery today.

Timothy Schultz:

That is really inspirational. It's amazing. I don't know what you think about this, but the odds of being born into your body are so minuscule. You have better odds of winning the lottery millions of times over than being born into your very body with your exact makeup.

Andrew Kap:

You sort of won the earth lottery just by being here.

Timothy Schultz:

Yes.

Andrew Kap:

And a way more astronomical lottery than the one that's currently in the world today. It's way more astronomical than a Power Bowl or Mega Millions.

Timothy Schultz:

With the law of attraction, a lot of people that watch or listen to this believe in it, but not everybody. I'm just curious about your thoughts on where does the law of attraction get misunderstood sometimes? Even for me, before I understood what it was, I thought it was just wishful thinking. I thought you just thought of something and then it just popped into existence. I was like "That can't be true." I did a lot of research and have interviewed a lot of people on it. What do you say to skeptics of this, and what do think is misunderstood about the law of attraction?

Andrew Kap:

There's actually two answers there because there's two questions. There's what I say to the skeptics and there's what's misunderstood. What I believe is misunderstood is what I mentioned a little bit earlier where people hear about the law of attraction, and whether it's intentional or inadvertent, it's presented to them in a way or it's interpreted in a way that the universe is supposed to do everything. The universe does a lot. It does what's not within our control, but we're still in a three-dimensional reality here. We're still in a physical reality. If I want to get in really good shape, yes, I can manifest the universe giving me an awesome personal trainer or a free subscription to a really good meal plan. I've still got to go into the gym. I've still got to lift those weights. A lot of people misunderstand that they have to be legitimate intentional. If they want to get what they want, they have be a cooperative component. If they don't want to get, they're already being a cooperative component to whatever they're getting right now.

Andrew Kap:

Regarding the skeptics, I don't try to change their mind. Every law of attraction author is different. My whole thing is all you need to do, even though the mechanics beneath the surface are very complicated, the application, the implementation can be very simple. You only need five minutes a day of feeling good while thinking about what you have or what you want or both. If you don't believe in the law of attraction, just think about this. If you take five minutes out a day and you just feel good, those are five minutes where you're not worried about your mortgage, issues with your spouse, your career, the state of the world or the economy. Those five minutes, even if you never manifest anything on a result, are a win in and of themselves. The skeptics say, "This is BS." I say "Cool. Just do this and don't even think of it as a law of attraction exercise. By the way, when it happens, when you actually manifest something, don't give Andrew credit, don't give his book credit, don't give the law of attraction credit or the universe credit, but at least recognize that this thing came after you did this thing. Keep doing that thing to see if it keeps happening. Be a scientist about the whole thing.

Timothy Schultz:

Is there a way that you think is best to be a scientist about it, in terms of do you do a quiet place and just meditate as they say? How do you suggest that someone does this?

Andrew Kap:

Each person has their own that works for them. An easy one that anyone can do right now, if they're curious, is after this interview, maybe you want to sit down for 30 seconds, close your eyes, take a nice, easy, deep breath, and not even think hard. Just consider the things in your life, in the past, the present, or what's on the way in the future, that you're grateful for. It could be just someone special in your life. It could be a moment where someone did you a favor. It could be the favorite time period from your life. It was high school, it was college, it was two years ago, whatever it might be. Just take 30 seconds out and sit in the present moment without the distraction and minutia and negativity, quite frankly, of everyday life.

Timothy Schultz:

How important do you think feeling and belief are? It sounds like that is feeling grateful, having gratitude for everything. What about belief? Some people swear that that is extremely important as well.

Andrew Kap:

It is and it isn't. This is where people misinterpret it. They'll read a book and it's like "You've got to believe." For all I know, I probably even inadvertently snuck it into The Last Law of Attraction Book You'll Ever Need to Read. I probably phrase it in a way where it could be interpreted like you have to believe. Yes, you do, but this isn't a thing where you can force yourself to believe. This is a thing where, in my opinion, if you casually and easily keep visualizing things and keep sending signals and images to your subconscious mind, the belief happens for you. To change your belief, on paper it's a very difficult thing. For a typical person, if they try to change their beliefs, all they're doing is reminding themselves every single day that they believe something else, and it becomes like this wall that they keep hitting. I say, the belief will be there. It will change, it will serve you, but sometimes the belief is not even conscious. It's subconscious. In fact, all the things happening in your life right now are your beliefs. You might say, "I don't believe I should be in this job." On a subconscious level, you believe that you have to be some kind of equivalent of the job you're in right now because that's what's going on. Belief's important, but it's not something that you just wave a magic wand and you force it through. It's something where, in my view, strategically you introduce images into your mind that contradict that that provide the belief that you want. The belief emerges on its own, and then that supports your manifestation for you.

Timothy Schultz:

You mentioned the subconscious mind. Some people say that the state akin to sleep right before you're going to sleep or right when you wake up, it's fertile ground for your subconscious mind if you're trying to implant, for lack of a better word, an idea into there. What do you think about that sort of thing, thinking about that right before you go to bed or right after you wake up before you're fully awake?

Andrew Kap:

I agree that that could be a very useful empower strategy. The only thing I would caution people on is if you do that, make sure you're enjoying it because none of this should feel like a chore. None of this should feel like, "Oh my God, I'm so exhausted. I've just got to go to sleep, but wait, I've got to be thinking about this thing." If it feels good to do it, if it doesn't feel like an obligation, it's a strategically powerful aid. It's not a requirement, but it can be very useful for you. Just make sure that you're actually enjoying it. The rub of all this is that any time you do a method, if you're not enjoying it, even if you think you're manifesting the thing that you want, you're manifesting the opposite intention because you're feeling bad about it.

Timothy Schultz:

Seems like what you're saying is that feeling is very, very important. You mentioned a little earlier about taking action steps. I don't know if you used that word, but actually being persistent in taking action steps. How important do you think that that is when it comes to manifesting whatever someone's seeking, whether it's money or a dream life or anything?

Andrew Kap:

Thank you for asking these questions because you're really unpeeling this onion in such a perfect way, taking out the layers here. That's really important. Regarding the action part, the nuance of the action part is you're not taking action to force the thing happening. You're taking action in cooperation with the thing happening, meaning if you're taking action from a lackful state because you're trying to force it, that's not useful or healthy. The action that you should take is the one that gets inspired. To add clarity to this, I want success. I don't know yet how it's going to come. What am I going to do? I'm going to visualize whatever my version of success is. It could be the fancy cars. It could be the big house. It could be financial freedom. I keep visualizing that, and then one day the universe gives me an idea, "Here's a book idea. Here's a business idea. Here's this," and it feels good. It feels aligned. It doesn't feel like I'm trying to force it. It feels like this is good. That's the action you take. You write the book. You start the business. You do the exercise. You change your diet, whatever it might be. That's what I mean by action, because again, we're here. We've got to do our part. The universe will often feed us through our subconscious mind, that we mentioned before, ideas that will aid you and that will integrate and have a synergy with what you want.

Timothy Schultz:

It seems very, very important to take action. It makes complete sense. Some people get what other people call luck. For a lottery win, for example, you buy a ticket. That is an action. It can come very, very quickly in some cases, if you're talking about money, for example, whether it's an inheritance or you're a pro athlete or something happens and you come across sudden wealth, whether you were or were not anticipating that. What are your thoughts on luck and money? Can people influence their financial reality through intention and belief, and if so, how can people do this? What are your thoughts on luck and money?

Andrew Kap:

We'll look at someone else's luck. I'll phrase it that way. When you look at someone else's look, basically you're seeing somebody enjoy something that they're vibrationally aligned with. You don't see the alignment, but they're aligned with it. You're just not there yet and it bothers you. Luck just means you're aligned with the quick, easy thing. You're aligned with the lottery win. Again, that person gets all the promotions. They have all the luck. They have a certain confidence and they carry themselves a certain way which is feeding their vibration, which then feeds into their action. It's a loop.

Andrew Kap:

In terms of having luck with money, someone that has luck with money feels good about money. There's a level, even if it's subconscious, that they feel like that's just who they are. They are a wealthy person. They are a person that money comes easily to. If you're not feeling that way, it isn't a lost cause. You can very easily turn it around, but if you're not feeling that way right now, if you're looking at other people and they have all the luck, that's another version of you screaming to yourself that you don't have the luck, which is you screaming to yourself that you don't have the money. The very easy fix is, in what ways are you abundant that will get you aligned with more of this money? I was talking about things that are within your control. It's not always action. What is within your control? For me, here's what's within my control if I want to win the lottery. I'm buying a ticket. What else can I do that's within my control? I can script about how I plan to use the money. I can script about what happens once I have the money. Everyone wants the million dollars and they want the house. Who has actually put the thought of "When this lottery win happens, who's my money manager? What investment decisions am I making? Am I forming a trust? What are the legalities of my trust in my state?" When you actually go and you do that research, prepping your way, that is something that you're taking action on, even if you're not forming a trust, that you're doing the work. You bought the ticket, but you're also paving the way through the scripting, through the details. It's a wonderfully powerful strategy because it's putting you in the mindset of not "I'm going to get the money" but "I have the money. What am I going to do with it now? I need someone to help me manage this so that I don't recklessly spend all of it. I need to find out, do I want a house that requires service, maids and stuff like that, or do I want a smaller house that I can clean on my own? Do I want a house with this level of tax bracket?" I think most people just want to win the lottery because not only do they want to be financially free. They no longer want the current financial burden. They don't want the bills, and that's fair. Of course, you don't want the bills. All I'm saying is, strategically speaking, if you haven't even made these kinds of decisions from the place of having the money, then you're not doing your part as much as you could to be vibrationally aligned with it arriving.

Timothy Schultz:

If you are using scripting as a technique, are you writing and saying this again as in the present tense? Say that you come across a million dollars or a few hundred thousand or anything like that. Are you writing, "I'm so happy that I have this," or is it more the feeling? You mentioned this earlier, but can you reinforce?

Andrew Kap:

Absolutely. I always recommend the wording that fits the person's personality. If I'm so happy and grateful now, that works, cool. I'll give you a version of scripting. You could literally write a letter to a friend. Imagine you've won the money and you're writing to a friend telling them about this. You can also write a letter to your future or past self. You could write a letter thanking God or the universe. You write a letter and you say "I've got exciting news. I've won the lottery. Here's what I'm doing with it. I'm taking 200 grand and I'm putting it into this real estate. I'm taking this amount of money and doing this with it. By the way, here's what excites me about this real state. It's got this wonderful view. It's close to town. It's an easy commute. I'm so excited. It's also off the beaten path so there's no noise from neighbors. I'm so happy. This is amazing. By the way, here is also what I am doing. I found a money manager. I found a lawyer who's going to help me with a trust with this so that I can manage this. I've actually found someone who can give me a 30-year plan so that I can live in luxury for 30 years and the money won't run out. Here's what I'm excited about. By the way, I bought an orchard. I love apples. You've got to come visit. This is so awesome.".

Andrew Kap:

Even me saying this, I'm giving you an example, I'm getting caught up in it. You could hear me emote. The emotions are coming automatically. Some people might do this and it might feel like a lie. Just keep talking. Here's another thing. This is a version of my time-lapse method. You intermingle things that you already have that you're grateful for with things in the future that you're grateful for. Psychologically, we can't downshift very easily. For example, I've sold over 150,000 copies of The Last Law of Attraction Book You'll Ever Need to Read. If I'm expressing gratitude for selling that number, and then a minute later I'm excited about a million copies, there's a level of me that doesn't know the difference so I'm getting myself faster to selling a million copies of the book. That's not an exact translation because that's so similar. If I want to manifest the love of my life, first I talk about how excited I am because I've sold 150,000 copies of my book. I'm getting interviewed by Timothy Schultz. This is so awesome. By the way, I just met the love of my life. This is cool. It happened so fast. I'm like, "Andrew, did you?" That doesn't even come into the mind because I'm just in the path. By the way, I think anyone listening by now can tell I'm a spoken scripting guy because I'm like a word salad. It's just how my mind processes, but again, you can write this. You can type it. Give yourself the gift of getting swept up in the moment of describing these details. I know a lot of people want to win the lottery. I say yes, awesome. That's a wonderful goal. Give yourself the freedom to have other goals that fit in with it. I've been talking about this recently. Manifesting money isn't a linear thing. A lot of people watch a movie and in a two-hour sequence, the hero has a challenge. They overcome it and they win, and boom, in two hours it happens. It's done. The way manifestation works is even after you win the lottery, manifestation doesn't end there and it didn't begin there either. I would gladly take the lottery, but my own personal view of manifesting is I manifest through all my book sales. I manifest through investments. I manifest through having business ideas. For me, it'll be 50 bucks here. It'll be $5,000 there. It'll be $20,000 there, and maybe now it's just $15,000 there. This is where luck comes in, why these people seem lucky, because for them, money doesn't come just once. It just comes. It's not even about this moment that we build up to. It's a moment that you're already in and always have been in. I know that's a little bit out there, but you just put yourself in the idea of this isn't linear. Money's coming today. It's coming tomorrow. It's going to be a lottery win. It's going to be something other than a lottery win. It's going to be both on the same day. It's going to be both in the same year. There's this flexibility and this looseness of I'm putting all this out there. The universe knows what I want and the universe knows how to get it better than I do. The universe, when it's ready, will feed me ideas that I can cooperate with it, but in the meantime, it's doing its part. I'm just going to do my part with whatever I know in the moment. That's what I mean. Notice that it's not just scripting. It's the mindset around the scripting. It's the attitude of life isn't perfect right now. It doesn't have to be. While I'm waiting for that lottery win, I'm going to enjoy my life to whatever measure I can with whatever means I have right now, whether I've got an extra $100 left over after I pay all my bills or I've got an extra $1,000, or it's not even about money and I need more time left over, whatever it might be.

Timothy Schultz:

That's so interesting. I have quite a few questions. When it comes to entering this state of mind, you mentioned that time not really existing or it not being linear and speaking to your future self, speaking to your past self. What actually is time, in your opinion? Why does this happen like this? What's your opinion on this?

Andrew Kap:

I've never said this way before, so hopefully I'm actually happy with my explanation. Time is our linear experience of a life that's not occurring on a linear level. We're a condensed consciousness. We're humans. We only have so much cognitive ability, so much processing ability of input. Right now what's going on, there are colors right now that our eyes don't even see that are in front of us. We just don't perceive it. Our senses don't pick it up. So much is going on all the time. We pick up these experiences in this linear progression, in this temporal progression. That's fine because given the fact that we experience it that way, we operate based on that. We say, "All right, I will spend five minutes," that's a time metric, "of doing this manifesting method, and then tomorrow," another time metric, "I'll do another five minutes." Time is just the way we experience life. Therefore, strategically speaking, of course we're going to implement our strategies around it, but the actual way things come to us is not limited by time. When I say time doesn't exist, I mean these constraints that you have to live your life and enjoy your life are not the same constraints that the universe faces in terms of what it gives you. To give you one more example, this happened very recently. I've been hearing lots about silver. Silver's going up in price. It never occurred to me before but I remembered even as adults, we always have that one box of stuff from when we were kids that we keep with us because it's important. I had this memory, "I think someone gave me a silver coin one time," so I go and I look. When I was 12 or 13 years old, a family friend gave me an American Eagle one ounce silver dollar. I think it was two days ago. Two days ago, I had this realization of this money, but I had this money for decades. I always had this silver, and now was the realization of it. Everyone listening, you've always had either the lottery win or the equivalent of it in your life. You just haven't physically experienced it yet. It's there already. If it's not the lottery, it's an investment win, it's a business idea, it's an inheritance, or it's something else. I think people forget how amazing it is just to have clean drinking water, how amazing it is just to be able to breathe and not wonder where your next breath is coming from, not worried that there's no oxygen. I don't know if anyone remembers that movie Spaceballs where they were running out of air and they were opening air out of a can. It was painted in this really goofy way, but just to think about that, you have air in your lungs. You have water. You have all this life around you. You have so much wealth. When you let yourself appreciate it on that level, the universe hears you and it's like, "All right, here's a money version of this. Here's the lottery" or "Here's the promotion" or "Here's whatever else is going to fit where you are right now, vibrationally speaking."

Timothy Schultz:

Would you say that when the universe hears you, what's your opinion on prayer being a form of potentially manifestation or tying into this sort of thing when you pray? What are your thoughts?

Andrew Kap:

Prayer, like love and other words, it's a loaded word in the sense that we all bring our own meanings to it. There's a religious and non-religious element of it. I say this about prayer. How you pray is basically how you feel. There's prayer of the sense of begging for something, not even asking but desperately begging because you're in a bad situation and you want to get out of it really fast. There's also prayer like "Thank you." I don't push a lot of religion. I'm not an expert on it, but I know when people say grace, they don't say, "Lord, please give us this food." They say, "Lord, thank you for this food." In my view, prayer is a powerful tool that, depending on how you go about it, can either be reinforcing the reality of what you don't want or reinforcing the reality of what you do. If you're like, "Please let me have this," you probably want to take a step back like "Okay, I might be coming from the consciousness of I don't have it versus I'm really happy and I'd really appreciate if you can give me this also. Thank you so much by the way." That's a lighter level. There are even higher levels like "Thank you for this right now. Thank you for the lottery win on the way. Thank you for everything. I'm so grateful." I'd say not even non-religiously speaking, use prayer strategically. Use it in a way that you know is aligned with attracting what you want.

Timothy Schultz:

You've mentioned throughout this interview this overall theme of just being very grateful and using gratitude and being in this really positive place. Some people that talk about manifestation and spirituality or energy and consciousness are really into what they call the flow state. When you enter this flow state, everything seems to go along seamlessly without as much effort. That's what they say, but what are your thoughts on the flow state and what is the quickest way to get into this? Would you say that that's gratitude?

Andrew Kap:

To me, the flow state is basically a state of not being resistant. It goes back to what I mentioned earlier where everything's abundant already. So long as you're not pushing against it, the stuff is coming to you. What you want is coming to you. To me, the flow state is when you let go of the fear, the uncertainty, the doubt, the urgency, the impatience, the frustration, if you just accept in the moment everything is okay. Of course, they call it flow because you're just gliding. You're not scraping and clawing and bumping your way to what you want or what you don't want. You're just flowing along in natural resonance with the timing and energy of the universe to get what you want. Obviously you know what you're doing here, so high compliments to being a wonderful host. Of course, you're listening really intently and you're hearing the word gratitude a lot. You probably also heard strategy a lot. Even though I talk about stuff that a cynic would call airy-fairy, I'm a very practical guy. For me, this is all about strategy. Knowing what I know about the universe, how do I strategically use it to my advantage? Gratitude, I don't know if it's the best thing, but strategically for me it's the best thing of getting in the flow state in that it's the easiest for me to do. The thing about gratitude that's so magic is gratitude is one of those things that seamlessly puts you into the state of having what you want because you're thankful for what you want. When you're thankful for what you want and you have the state of having what you want, the universe knows about all the other things that you want and it gives you those. When you're grateful, now things are easy. That's flow. When you appreciate, now things are seamless. That's flow. I wouldn't call gratitude the best thing, but it's the best thing I've found so far.

Timothy Schultz:

We are here with Andrew Kap, the author of The Last Law of Attraction Book You'll Ever Need to Read. For people that want to read your book or learn more about you or everything that you have going on, where can people find you?

Andrew Kap:

Thanks for asking. A very easy way to find me is andrewkap.com. That'll go to all sorts of fun stuff. That'll go to links to my books on Amazon. That'll go to my newly launched Law of Attraction VIP Academy. If people don't want to pull their wallets out, it'll also go to my YouTube channel. Whether or not you spend anything, it was my intention in putting all the things out that people would find value regardless of their financial situation. Anyone and everyone's welcome, but more importantly, thanks everyone for listening here. Obviously, you're on a good channel here with someone that really cares about you. I'm very appreciative that you've invited me on to share with your audience.

Timothy Schultz:

Absolutely. Thank you for your time. This is so fascinating. We will link to that in the show notes if you're listening to this, or in the description of this if you're watching this on YouTube. I have a couple more questions before we get going. What's the most powerful thing someone could be doing right now to manifest their dream life or abundance or maybe it's a relationship. They want x, fill in the blank. What should they be doing? There's lots of things that you've spoken about in this interview, but what's the most powerful thing?

Andrew Kap:

This answer is coming from the recognition. I realize, by the way, everything I say here, for some people it might be inspirational, and for others they might be like "Easier said than done, Andrew." This answer's coming for those that you don't just want the thing. You desperately want it. You just want that lottery win already. You just want to meet that person already. Andrew, what's the answer? To me, the easiest thing to begin with is to recognize, again, strategically. This isn't me saying that life is perfect. Just strategically recognize that that desperation is working against you. In response, just do 30 seconds to five minutes of any form of gratitude every single day just to take the foot off the gas, just to have a little bit of ease of yourself, just to remind yourself that even in the face of financial difficulties or health difficulties or relationship difficulties, there are things in this world that you still have and it's through your strategic appreciation of them that you'll get more of the other things. Just 30 seconds to five minutes of "What am I grateful for today? What's genuinely good in my life? What, if someone took away, would be horrible?" Again, you can breathe. You've got water. You've got food. You've got a roof over your head, clothes on your back, friends, family. You've had experiences, any of those things. Just think about that every single day. That's very powerful. It's deceptively powerful.

Timothy Schultz:

I'm grateful for you being here today and for sharing your insights. People can find you at andrewkap.com. Is that correct?

Andrew Kap:

Yes.

Timothy Schultz:

Is there anything else that you want to say today that I do not know enough to ask, or maybe that you just want to say today?

Andrew Kap:

I want to make sure people hung around and heard everything, but now I'm going to reiterate, you've invested this time to hear this interview. You've blocked out this time. I imagine you hopefully have, anyone listening, another 60 seconds. Once this interview ends, stay where you are seated, close your eyes, take a nice, deep breath, and just think about stuff. Feel good now. Don't say, "This is a great idea. I'm going to do this tomorrow." Do it right now. What a perfect opportunity off the heels of this that I couldn't stress enough. It's so simple, so powerful. You won't even realize how powerful it is probably until you do it for a month, but you'll also probably feel it in the moment so dive on in.

Timothy Schultz:

Thank you so much, Andrew. I love this, and I'm going to do this myself when we get off of here. Thank you so much for your time today. It's such a pleasure and I appreciate it.

Andrew Kap:

Thank you, Timothy, I really appreciate you. I'm going to take my own advice and do it as well.