In this episode of The Ever Be Podcast, host Mari Wagner shares her unique and fruitful experience of Lent, where she gave up screens after 8 PM and added daily Mass. Mari discusses how these practices have brought her peace and rest, connecting it to a Bible study on Matthew 11:28-30. Listen in for insightful, real-life conversations on finding rest in God, surrendering burdens, and seeking spiritual growth in a busy world. Mari also offers practical tips for daily surrender, prayer, and observing a true Sabbath.

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Hey, I am your host, Mari Wagner,

and you're listening to The Ever Be

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Welcome to ever be.

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mari-wagner_3_04-02-2025_170751:

Hey you guys.

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How are you?

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It is middle lent.

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Um, I always feel like I wanna

ask you how you're doing, but

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it's weird 'cause obviously I.

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I can't hear you.

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Um, but just know that I'm

like thinking about you and

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wondering like, how's Lent going?

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I know for me, this Lent has been unique.

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It's been, I've approached it

differently than I have in the past,

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and I'm actually really enjoying this.

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Lent.

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I'm, I'm like really feeling

the fruits of this lent.

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Um, I hope your guys'

lent is also fruitful and.

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Is just a season of spiritual

growth and drawing closer to the

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Lord and strengthening your faith

and your relationship with Jesus.

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Um.

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And if it's been hard, I've had hard lunch

before too, and it's rough hanging there.

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Just another couple weeks before Easter.

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Um, for Lent this year I gave up using

my screens after 8:00 PM and that is

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just like all screens, not just tv.

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It's basically like I put my phone

away and I don't open my computer or

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turn the TV on, starting at 8:00 PM Um.

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And then I added daily mass Monday

through Friday to my schedule.

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Um, and that was just something

that I had been wanting to do

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for a while and just hadn't like,

honestly had the discipline to do it.

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Um.

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And I'm really, really glad that

sometimes we need a good Lent, you know,

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to like give us a kick in the butt.

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And I'm really glad that I

did that for Lent this year.

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Um, and I usually add like a

devotional or some sort of like

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program that I'm doing and I.

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I had every full intention to do

Ascensions program, like on their app

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of the Seven Deadly Sins, which I can

probably still access post lent, I hope.

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Um, but I didn't actually end

up doing it, which I'm bummed

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because it looked so good.

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I need to just like.

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Be okay with starting late

if I still want to do it.

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'cause it, it sounds so interesting to me,

but a part of me has been like, kind of

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hard on myself being like, wow, you didn't

add like a specific devotional or a prayer

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or like, you were gonna do this like, you

know, app program and then you didn't.

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And part of me wants to feel like I failed

in, um, and maybe y'all don't experience

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this, maybe I'm just too hard on myself.

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Um.

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But I keep feeling almost like

the love of God, just being like,

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you have sought out like me.

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You know, like you've received me

every day in, and you've sought out

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like communion with me in the mass.

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Like nothing is a greater gift than that.

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Like, don't be hard on yourself.

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Like, I'm with you.

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And so I've just allowed myself to kind

of like, yeah, just like feel that peace

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and that consolation and know that I.

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That like what I'm doing is enough

and it's actually like such a big

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gift to myself, to my faith life,

and a gift to the Lord, um, to

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show up at daily mass every day.

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Um, and it's, I just, I'm bringing

this up because I just feel like

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it ties in with today's episode.

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We're gonna do a little Bible study.

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Um, I've only done one other Bible

study episode before and I got so

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much feedback saying people loved

it and they wanted more of 'em.

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And I just recently thought,

wow, I haven't done it in.

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Forever.

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I mean, it's probably been

like six months or so.

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So we're gonna do another one today and

it's gonna be on finding true rest in God.

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And so the reason I bring up just this

experience that I've had throughout

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Lent and going to Mass is because I feel

like I'm finding rest and peace in my

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life more than I have experienced in the

past year of my life probably than ever.

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Um, and I.

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If I sit and reflect, I really believe

it's because I'm going to mass every day,

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and therefore it's because I'm finding

rest in God himself and relying on him

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to give me the graces necessary, you

know, to go about my life and my day,

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and to answer God's call in my life.

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And I just bring this up because I

think this is something we all seek and

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it's something we're all yearning for,

is lasting peace and rest, especially

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in just the culture we live in today.

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I feel like we glorify busyness and we

worship productivity and we can't rest

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un until we're, you know, done with our

to-do list, which by the way, never ends.

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Um.

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And it's almost like we try and outdo

each other with busyness or we like

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pride ourselves off of our busyness and

that's just not how God wants us to live.

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That's not how he created us

to live, and I feel like it

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is the work of the evil one.

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I.

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Working to distract us and keep us

busy and distracted on so many other

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things, whether they're good or bad.

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I'm not saying all the things that

we do are bad, like we could be

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distracted with really good things.

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Um, but he keeps us

distracted and tired and, um.

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Yeah, just like constantly pouring out

and not making time to be poured into

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which we can only seek from God the

father, um, from spending time with

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Jesus in prayer and seeking him in just

different ways throughout our life.

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So I.

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I think this is just a realization

that I've just been coming

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to in the past few weeks.

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It's like, wow, I feel, I feel rest in

the Lord and no matter like what's going

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on in my life, or you know, a busyness

of schedule that I have or whatever,

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like I don't feel that same like I.

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I don't even know what to call it,

like pressure, like heavy tiredness.

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I don't feel a heavy tiredness.

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I, I feel like a lightness

of heart, a lightness in my

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body, in my face, in my chest.

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Um, and I think it's really because the

Lord is providing, the Lord is sustaining.

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Um.

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And I, I host a Bible study

at my house every week.

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And that's one thing that we talked

about briefly, kind of on the same topic.

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Um, last night in Bible study was

one of the women shared how, you

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know, she's a mother and she is, you

know, trying to learn how to like

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mother her children and trust in God.

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And, um.

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Basically like do things well and like

have all this energy to do things, um,

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and to trust that she's doing things well

and to trust her children as they grow

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into these different stages and trust

God that he's gonna take care of 'em and

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all these different things, um, that I.

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You know, in fears that I'm sure

a lot of new moms feel, or you may

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feel it entering into the season of

engagement or marriage and being like,

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how the heck am I gonna be a good wife?

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Um, yeah.

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Or, or starting a new

job or just anything.

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Right.

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That like, we feel like inadequate in, um.

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And we talked about how in these

moments you can put it back on the

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Lord, you can go to the Lord and say

like, Lord, this is how I'm feeling

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in my vocation in this calling.

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You asked of me in my job, in a

relationship I have in a friendship, um,

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or in my relationship with you, right?

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And just feel like I feel inadequate,

I feel tired, I feel lost.

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IX, Y, Z, like can't actually.

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Do this the way that you would want

me to, um, because the truth is you

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can't, you can't trust the way God

like calls us to trust You can't

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love the way he calls us to love

because we're human and we're broken.

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He actually calls us to rely on him to

be given the grace to do these things.

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And so we talked about last night

how we can put it back on the Lord

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and we can say, okay, Lord, like.

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Please give me the grace to trust.

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Please give me a greater gift of

faith, a greater gift of hope,

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a greater gift of, um, patience.

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And, you know, whatever the virtue

is you're seeking to grow in whatever

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gift of the Holy Spirit that you wanna

ask for and go to him faithfully,

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continually, go to mass, receive

him, and ask for these things in

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humility, and he will give them to you.

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He will, he absolutely will.

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But I think so often we just feel like

we need to do things ourselves and we

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kind of like pick ourselves up by our

bootstraps and we're like, yep, we just

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gotta work hard and we just gotta put

our head down and we just gotta do the

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things God calling us to do and gotta

be a good Christian and a good Catholic.

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And, and if you're struggling, we,

you just gotta do it harder, right?

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You just gotta work harder.

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You just gotta trust better

or have greater faith.

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Um, and.

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No, like we can ask for these

things as a gift from God in

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humility and he will give it to us.

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So just wanted to kind of preface this

conversation with that and basically

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share my experience of just like

finding peace and rest and realizing

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that no shock, it's because I'm.

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Going to the Lord,

going to the Lord often.

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And I just want to share that in this

place of consolation right now to

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encourage you to do the same thing.

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So we're gonna open up our Bibles

and just pull from scripture

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to guide our conversation.

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Um, so we're gonna turn

to Matthew chapter 11.

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Matthew chapter 11 verses 28 through 30.

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So not very long.

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Just a couple verses and I'll

just go ahead and read it.

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Um, and so let's just do some like lexio.

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Dina, if you can, um, I'll read it

and then allow yourself to maybe

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pause the recording and take some

time to ask the Holy Spirit to kind

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of shed light on what you just heard.

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If you have the time, you

know to stop for a moment.

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If not, that's okay.

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You can just keep it going and listen

to the rest of the Bible study.

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But if you have time to sit down and do a

little prayer s session with me, go ahead

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and do it, and we can do it together.

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So Matthew Levin, verse

28 through 30 reads.

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Come to me, all who labor and our

heavy laden and I will give you rest.

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Take my yoke upon you and learn from

me for I am gentle and lowly in heart,

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and you will find rest for your souls.

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For my yoke is easy

and my burden is light.

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So I'll read it one more time and I

just want you to listen and kind of

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just see where your heart is moved.

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Where are you, um, you know, what

word are you being drawn to, or

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what phrase are you being drawn to?

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Where is your heart leaning

towards as I'm reading?

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And just see what stands out to you.

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One more time.

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Come to me all who labor and our

heavy laden and I will give you rest.

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Take my yoke upon you and learn from

me for I am gentle and lowly and heart,

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and you'll find rest for your souls.

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For my yoke is easy

and my burden is light.

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So I think what stands out to

me right off the bat is in verse

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29, at the end it says, and you

will find rest for your souls.

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That to me is.

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So powerful because I feel like the way

we try and seek rest in our day to day is

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honestly by like numbing ourselves is by

just zoning out, you know, like scrolling

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on your phone or throwing on a TV show.

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Um, or maybe just listening

to a podcast or a music.

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And again, not to say any of these

is bad, but I find myself doing this

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often of just like, oh, I'm super

tired, or I'm just like exhausted

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for something from something.

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Or.

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I just feel overwhelmed and my initial

reaction is to like lay on the couch and

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pull out my phone and open Instagram or,

um, yeah, like lay on my bed and like

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throw a show on or something like that.

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And while that is, you

know, maybe a form of like.

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Maybe physically resting

our bodies like laying down.

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It's not a true rest of our soul.

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And in fact, like we're still

continuing to, to be stimulated by all

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of, you know, the things that we're

scrolling or seeing on our screen.

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And correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel

like more often than not we walk away

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from those like doom scroll sessions,

like still feeling overwhelmed and

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kind of like buzzed and kind of just

like, uh, like wired almost, you

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know, not like, not like truly rested.

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And here Jesus is.

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Saying like, you'll find

rest for your souls.

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And that just sounds like such

a like deep, long lasting peace

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and like stillness in our souls.

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Something that like stills, our heart,

mind, soul is just so attractive to me.

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I don't know about you.

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Um, so I think that's what

initially stands out to me.

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But I mean, let's just like, let's

just break this up line by line and

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just kind of go through it a little

bit and just do a little study.

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So it starts out with, come to

Me All who Labor and our heavy

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laden, and I will give you rest.

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So who is Jesus inviting here?

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He says, come to me all who labor.

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Um, and really that's all of us.

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He's inviting all of us.

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He's extending an invitation

to you to go to him and to give

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him everything you're carrying.

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And just to kind of unload those burdens

that you feel like you have in your life,

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whether they're emotional or spiritual

or physical, whether it's burdens

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you're carrying in your own life, or

you know, burdens that you feel like

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you're caring of people that you love

and care about other people in your life.

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He invites us here to give that to him.

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And to seek rest in him, right?

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To be able to let go of that burden,

to entrust it to him and to trust him

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when he says, and I will give you rest.

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And I feel like, you know, going off of

this conversation that I just started

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here about where we seek rest, I just

feel like we seek rest in, in so many

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places and honestly the wrong places in

our culture today, like social media,

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tv, alcohol, you know, any other vices we

might have, gossip, um, whatever it is.

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I just feel like our bodies naturally

and our souls naturally like are

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yearning for that rest of soul.

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Um, and when we feel overwhelmed

or burdened, we tend to

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look in the wrong places.

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Especially if we're not like rooting

ourselves in God and in prayer constantly.

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It's not gonna be our first reaction to be

like, oh, I'm feeling super overwhelmed.

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Let me go spend some time with the Lord.

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And honestly, I feel like

that kind of ties into a level

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of trust that we have with.

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Jesus and kind of reveals

where we're at in that trust.

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Like if times when we just feel like

life is really heavy or we have a lot

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going on, or you feel super overwhelmed

or anxious or stressed, we're just

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exhausted and our reaction is to go

to something worldly to find rest.

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It almost communicates that we don't

trust that God will give us that

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rest, or we don't trust that we're

actually gonna feel, you know, that.

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Peace that rest that he can give

us, but that we, we feel like

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we're gonna feel it in those other

areas that we're seeking out.

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And again, it's almost kinda like seeking

out this instant gratification of just

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like, oh, I know if I scroll on my phone

for 30 minutes, you know, that's what I'll

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need right now to, to kind of disconnect.

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And I think that's key right there

is like in those coping mechanisms.

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What we're actually doing is disconnecting

and kind of disassociating from our

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reality in order to give ourselves

a break, whether as when we take our

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burdens to Jesus, we are facing our

reality and surrendering it to Christ,

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letting go and allowing Christ to

work in it and trusting that he will.

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And that's where that level of trust comes

in and where that true surrender comes in.

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To be able to feel that heaviness

and go first to Jesus and be like,

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Lord, I know that you can take it.

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You know, please take it from me.

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Please give me your.

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Your rest and give me

a lightness of heart.

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You know, please calm my anxiety.

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Please give me peace, confidence,

joy, hope, whatever it is that you

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feel like you're struggling in, and to

trust that he's gonna fill your cup.

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Um, I.

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And I mean, I won't lie.

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It doesn't mean that every time

you go to prayer, you're gonna

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feel all these like happy feelings.

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All these like rainbows and

butterflies in your heart, and

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everything's gonna feel better.

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But I guarantee you the work that will

be happening in your heart and soul is

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actually going to be healing more so

than your scrolling session is gonna be.

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Although you might feel like you got a

break from it because you disassociated

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and disconnected while you were scrolling.

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The he.

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There's no healing work that's happening.

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Whereas when you go to the Lord and

surrender your burdens to the Lord,

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there is healing work that happens

where the Lord is, is acting as a

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father and is saying, I got you.

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You know, I'm here for

your, I'm here for you.

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Let me provide, let me take

care of it like rest my child.

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So that true rest really is about

taking it an extra step further and

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surrendering our burden and trusting

that Jesus is gonna take care of it.

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Okay, the next line, verse 29 says,

take my yoke upon you and learn from

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me for I am gentle and lowly in heart,

and you will find rest for your souls.

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For the longest time, I mean, almost

my whole life, basically, I didn't

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understand this line when it said like,

take my yolk or like my yolk is light.

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I obviously just thought of

an egg yolk and I was like,

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what the heck does that mean?

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He's got a really light egg yolk.

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Um, and so I never.

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Understood how that like

connected to this passage or rest.

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Um, well come to learn if you

guys might already know this.

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Maybe it's just me, but if you're like me

and you're like, what the heck is a yolk?

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It's like a thing that they put on

oxen, I think is the way you say it.

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Plu elite, like on like the animal an ox.

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So they would put this like

thing on the oxen like a.

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Wooden like connector, right?

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To connect the oxen to like pull

the like weight, like the burden or

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whatever it is, the load that they're

carrying to kind of share the weight.

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So they're able to be, um, you

know, working together to get

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this job done, to carry this load.

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So what Jesus is saying here

basically is take my yoke upon you.

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Like share this yoke with me and.

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Attach yourself to me.

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He's not saying like, I'm gonna

put this yoke on you to like, give

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you the work to help you like so

that you can feel this like weight.

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No.

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Instead, he's like, attach yourself to

me and you'll see how easy the ride is.

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Right now you're carrying your yoke alone.

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And if you would just attach

yourself to me, you would see how,

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how much lighter I would make it.

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And then he says, not just attach.

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Yourself to me, right?

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Not just take your, take my yoke

upon you, but then learn from me.

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Now what does that mean?

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Right?

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What does it mean to learn from Jesus?

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I mean, I just feel like it means to

like walk in his ways and to emulate

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the way that he lived and to live

the way that he calls us to, that

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we can learn from in the scriptures.

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To live in humility, to live in surrender,

to live in reliance on God, to live in

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constant prayer, to be constantly seeking

God, seeking God's will over your own.

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That is what it means to learn

from the Lord, to walk in his ways.

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And when we do that, when we walk in

the way that Christ taught us to, we are

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able to find this rest and we'll be able

to see how our, our yoke is lightened.

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Because the weight isn't all on us

and we're not just trying to live out

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of this self-reliance and us figuring

out life on our own and trying to

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grasp at everything that we think we

need or that we want or yearn for.

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And instead, we live an open handed

life of surrender, of humility, walking

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in the way of the Lord, in complete

trust in God, in this closeness of,

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of communion with God, where we are

open to his will and always just.

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Being docile to the Holy Spirit

and being ready to say yes to

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his call, whatever that may be.

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And then he says, for I am gentle

and lowly in heart, and this should

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be refreshing and comforting to us.

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Like to me, this brings me.

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Oh gosh.

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It just feels like a hug.

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Like it just feels like

a hug from like my dad.

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You know what I mean?

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Like just like a comfort and

a safety where he's reassuring

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us, like, I am gentle in heart.

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Like when you give me your burden,

when you like, share your burden

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with me and allow me to pick up your

load, I'm not going to yell at you.

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I'm not gonna punish you.

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I'm not gonna be a harsh, you know, like.

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Master that tells you like keep

going, work harder, do better.

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He's just gonna have mercy and

love and gentleness and kindness.

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Because he was fully human.

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He experienced the whole array of

emotions and that human experience that

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we experience, um, without sin, of course.

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But he's able to empathize with us

on a very personal level and so.

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How does knowing Jesus' heart, you

know, being gentle, empathetic, merciful

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kind, change how we approach him?

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Right?

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How does that change our disposition

of heart we go to the Lord with

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our burdens and know that he's just

gonna receive us with kindness?

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And then he says, for my yoke

is easy and my burden is light.

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Does this mean that life

will be effortless and will

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never encounter struggle?

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No.

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Right.

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He's not saying for, I

will take away, you know?

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Every cross in your life.

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In fact, we know Jesus says,

pick up your cross and follow me.

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But he reinforces that herewith,

you know, share your cross with me.

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let me pick it up with you.

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'cause then that burden will be light.

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Jesus wants to carry the weight with us.

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He doesn't ask us to face anything alone.

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Anything.

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Whatever you're going through right

now, whatever you're struggling with,

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whatever your cross is that you just feel.

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Is just heavy and that you are just

maybe crumbling under the weight of,

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or anything that's weighing on you.

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The Lord is not asking you to

do it alone, and I just want

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you to hear me when I say that.

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Don't put this pressure and

expectation on yourself that

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the Lord is not putting on you.

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He's not waiting for you to perform

in some way for you to figure it

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out on your own, for you to prove

yourself to him of how well you

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were able to carry this cross alone.

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In fact, he's waiting for you to

share it with him so that he can

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redeem you, so that he can pour

forth his love, his lightness, his

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mercy, his rest, his grace upon you.

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Because when we try to do it ourselves,

we're literally rejecting Jesus.

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We're literally rejecting what he

came to do and what he continues

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to do for us every single day.

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So don't try and do it alone.

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Don't reject the love and

the um, you know, the hand of

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Christ reaching out to save you.

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Allow him into your life and

allow him to share the burden

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with you and to carry it for you.

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Honestly.

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Surrender it to him.

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Let him carry it for you.

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So how do we do this

practically in our lives?

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Right?

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You know, I'm all about the practical,

so let's just talk about a few practical

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ways that we can surrender to Christ and

allow him to carry our crosses for us.

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So how do we do this practically?

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How do we practically give him our

burdens in our day-to-day life?

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In a very simple way.

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On a daily basis, I would

say surrender your day to him

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in the morning, doing a morning offering

and doing a daily surrender of the day.

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We'll start you off on the right foot and

allow your heart to be in a disposition

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to allow the Lord to be in control

and not you, and to just kind of like

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surrender anything that comes your way

and be like, Lord, you take care of it.

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And obviously that'll be hard to

do if you don't feel like you are

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naturally already rooted in like

a deep seed of trust for the Lord.

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So prayer and scripture daily is

something that's going to root us

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in that relationship and give us.

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That trust and give us those graces that

we need to be able to surrender and, and

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rely on the Lord and give him everything

that we're carrying every single day.

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Another practical way is

honestly going to mass.

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And I have found this, like I said earlier

in this podcast, just to be so fruitful

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myself, um, and to pick an intention

to offer every mass for, , I usually.

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Pick something that I pray specifically

about during the consecration of the

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Eucharist and during communion, and

basically ask the Lord to, you know,

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to hear this prayer and offer up these

graces and this moment in the mass where

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I receive Jesus and where he's coming

down to meet us for a specific intention.

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And this is very effective.

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I think for us as humans, because it's

a physical thing we can do, I feel like,

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you know, we're both body and soul.

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And so the physical really is, is a

way that we're able to really engage

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with the Lord, which I think is why the

sacraments are so wonderful that the

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church gives us, because they all have

this physical component that allows us

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to engage the Lord in a way that we.

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Connect with so much as physical

human beings with physical bodies.

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So going to mass, receiving him and

being present and being able to offer

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up your burdens while receiving him in

the Eucharist is such a tangible way

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to feel like you're trusting in the

Lord and you're surrendering to him.

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And, um, yeah, just like giving,

giving everything over to him.

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And another very practical, uh, habit

to cultivate and thing to practice

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would be to keep Sundays holy and

to keep Sundays a day of rest.

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A true Sabbath.

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So many of us use Sundays as a catch

up day to finish work, to do some

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errands, to prepare for the week.

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But God designed this day for

worship, for rest, for renewal.

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And this is honestly,

really hard to live out.

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I mean, I struggle with this and I, I know

it's so hard for so many people, again,

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because we live in such a, you know, busy

life culture, productive culture, and,

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um, you know, Sundays are such, you know,

an easy day to be like, that's when I'm

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gonna do my catchup for the week, and

that's when I'm gonna, you know, do my

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errands and do work or whatever it is.

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But that inhibits us from living out

that day in the way the Lord actually

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calls us to, which is for worship and

rest and the times that you actually

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lean into that, just notice how you feel.

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Notice how your heart, how your spirit

feels, and how it feels going into

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the week versus the other way around.

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Um, now don't get me wrong, I

know that like prepping for the

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week is important and making sure

you have groceries and maybe a.

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A deep clean of the house or whatever

it is, but I encourage you to maybe

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do that on a Friday or a Saturday

instead of a Sunday, and just try and

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practice that for a couple weeks of like

taking care of those errands in that

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work before Sunday, and then starting

the day out with mass on a Sunday

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and then doing, you know, something,

life giving the rest of the day.

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Spending time with family, having like,

you know, no plan on the calendar.

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Just really enjoying the day with the

Lord and the people that you love.

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Well, friends, I hope this was a

fruitful conversation and I hope that

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you walked away just with a little

message of hope and encouragement, um,

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that the Lord wants to walk with you

in whatever you're walking through,

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and that the Lord wants to give you

rest and not just kind of like that.

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Fake rest that we're able to find when

we scroll or disconnect or watch a

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show or just, you know, whatever it is.

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But actual true rest of the soul, a

stillness and a peace in your heart.

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He wants to give you that and he's

waiting for you to give him all your

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burdens so he can do that for you.

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So know that I'll be praying for you this

week and praying for you as you learn to

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trust and surrender and rest in the Lord.

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Thanks for doing Bible

study with me today.

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You guys.

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I hope that you were encouraged by it.

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And if you feel like there's a person,

a friend in your life that needs to hear

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this message today, go ahead and share

this episode with them and just continue

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to spread this message of faith and hope.