In this episode, I sit down with Jenny to talk about something many moms quietly struggle with but don’t always say out loud: health anxiety after becoming a parent. Jenny shares how her worries around health intensified after motherhood, shifting from occasional concern to intrusive, obsessive thoughts that were hard to shut off. Suddenly, small things felt catastrophic, and the weight of responsibility for her family made everything feel more fragile.

Together, we explore how becoming a mother can heighten awareness of mortality, deepen fear, and completely change the way we think about our bodies and our lives. Jenny reflects on how loving her family so deeply shaped her anxiety but also her appreciation for life. This conversation is about naming the fear without judgment, understanding why it shows up, and reminding ourselves that we are not broken for feeling this way. Awareness, compassion, and support matter specially when anxiety tries to take over.

Key Takeaways

1. Motherhood can amplify underlying anxiety in ways that feel sudden and overwhelming
2. Obsessive thoughts often stem from love and responsibility, not weakness
3. Fear can coexist with gratitude, appreciation, and deep connection
4. Talking openly about anxiety reduces shame and creates space for support

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Dr. Christelle Oliver-Dussault is a family physician with a clinical focus on aesthetic medicine, women’s health, and psycho-education. Her work is grounded in a holistic, whole-person approach that integrates medical science with a deep appreciation of the mind–body connection. Alongside her clinical practice, she is deeply committed to medical education and mentors the next generation of family physicians through her work with the Department of Family Medicine at the University of British Columbia.

She is the founder of Reclaim The Pink Within, a community created to support women through life’s most profound transitions. This project was born from personal experience. After becoming a mother, Dr. Oliver-Dussault became aware of a quiet but profound shift in her sense of self, one she had long observed in her patients, yet only fully understood once she lived it herself. What had once been a clinical observation became a deeply personal insight, shaping the lens through which she now supports and guides other women.

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I found that I would have always been a bit of a

hypochondriac with, like, medical stuff.

And I found that I started this health anxiety sort

of started to. To creep in and would.

Would consume me. Like, consume my thoughts.

Just like. Yeah, just really thing things like that

mole on my back. Like, I'm just terrified. Like,

that's something bad, you know, and just being kind of

obsessive, obsessive thoughts about this. And I think

after you become a mom as well, you realize just how

fragile life is and how important

you are to another human being. And if. If anything happened

to you, your little unit, your family will be

ruined. And, you know, you just appreciate life

and how important you are and how much you love your family.

Welcome back to the podcast. Today I'm speaking to Jenny, who is

all the way over in Dublin. We met a good

few years ago through our husbands who went to school together.

And when I spoke to her about the project, she wanted to share her journey

with all of you. So welcome. Thank you for making the time to chat to

me today. Thank you, Christel. And I'm very excited. Yeah.

So before we dive in, I know you're now a busy working

mom of two, tell me a little bit about who you were before

you were a mum. Hmm, that's an interesting one,

I think. Yeah, I mean, I was a different person

maybe in some regards before I had kids. Even.

Maybe even before I met my husband. I sometimes joke that I'm on like

witness protection because my life was like, so different before I kind

of settled down. But. Yeah, so I

am, I suppose, working and living in Dublin. I am

now in a career that I. It was a real

pivot from before I had kids. Um,

I think so much changed when. When I. When I.

I suppose got pregnant. Like, I got pregnant right

at March 2020, which was like the week before

or the week of COVID hitting the world. So I

think, like, everything changed. But when I got

pregnant, like, with the world, I started a job, like

the week. Sorry, I got the. I got offered a job on the Friday and

I found out I was pregnant on the Sunday. So, like, right, my whole.

My whole world shift. And the world shifted around

the time of finding out I was pregnant, which

at that very moment I felt like a mom instantly. So it is a real.

It was a bit crazy. Yeah. But before I was a mom,

you know, I was living in Dublin. I still am living in Dublin,

but, you know, working away, working in kind of media

and I suppose maybe at that point your work Kind of defines you a little

bit and where you want to go, you kind of. Your

career is a huge part of that. And I guess

maybe now as a mom, my career is not as important. Maybe it

will be more in a few years. But I think, yeah,

like, I don't know anything in particular

you're. You want to know, I suppose, about kind of my previous

life before being a mom. No, maybe like,

what you would have maybe described yourself as, like, you've already kind of

touched on, you know, career was a huge part of your identity. Was there

anything that was part of your identity then that doesn't have

as much importance now?

Yeah, it's a funny one. I mean, I think, yeah,

I would have defined myself before

my current situation as kind of working in the creative

industries, working in the music industry, studying

music. You know, I did it. Like, people. People meet me now

and. And they're so, like, so surprised about what, where

or what I did before. My current job will say,

like, when I tell people that I degree in music, that I have a master's

in, you know, composition, they're like, what? Like, they just find

it so strange. So I guess

ties in with how my life, you know, five, six

years ago was, like, so different to. To now, you know,

it's. It's just been a bit. Yeah. So a lot of big changes all at

once, both within your unit, your career, and

then the world. What did you imagine motherhood would be

like before you became a mum?

I feel like I didn't. I didn't imagine it a huge amount.

Like, I knew it was in. I knew it was in my.

In my kind of goals. Like, I saw myself as a parent,

you know. You know, once, two kids, maybe three, but I didn't really think

about it a huge amount. And I think

myself and my husband Neil, like, we definitely knew we wanted to have

kids, but we didn't talk about it a huge amount, you know, So I. I

feel like I didn't really imagine life as a parent that

much. And kind of it was when we found out we were pregnant. It was

not that it wasn't planned, but it was a surprise. It was like a beautiful

surprise. So, yeah, I think that. That

we're kind of the type of people that

we just roll with the punches, you know, and we kind of. Yeah.

Whoa. Okay. I guess we. We're having a family now, you know.

Yeah. Not overly planned. Yeah. As you would say.

Yeah. And how was your transition to motherhood after you

gave birth to Sophie? Right, right.

Yeah. Yeah. Again, like, it was such a

crazy time with COVID

I think when you're maybe,

you know, before the, the pandemic, people found out like they were

pregnant, you know, they were able to do like

yoga and different things, you know, throughout their pregnancy.

They could have baby showers and, you know, we,

I did everything remotely, I had a remote baby shower as well.

And then you're kind of thrown into parenting

and it's quite, quite isolating in some ways now. I

was really lucky that Neil had four months off

on paternity. So we spent a lot

of time together, which was amazing. And so I think the transition

into parenting was actually quite straightforward.

But, yeah, it's not the case for, for everyone. So,

you know, complain, not complaining that I didn't get to do, you know, baby swimming

or baby mom and baby yoga, but actually I'm like, would I,

would I have done those things anyway? Like, you know, the way you.

Like you'll do all of these things, but in reality you're just kind

of drowning in like, exhaustion as well. So,

yeah, I think the, I think Covid and pandemic,

I think it suited me and it suited our kind of

chilled out lifestyle as well. So, yeah, I, you know, found

being, you know, becoming a mom not that, not that

difficult. Not that, you know, not that challenging. It was, it was, it was

great. Sounds like you had the space and the time to connect as a

little family unit that maybe you wouldn't have had

if it wasn't for the pandemic. So maybe a little blessing there.

Is there anything like, what would you say that you found

about motherhood that was challenging, that maybe you wouldn't have found

challenging before or anything that surprised you?

Wouldn't. I said, I guess it wouldn't surprise me. But

after I had Sophie, not immediately after Sophie, but

I think when your babies are super small,

you're just kind of getting, getting through the day

focused on feeding, napping, changing

nappies, you know, doing all that stuff. You don't have a huge amount of time

to, to really think. And I think as, as the dust

settled a little bit and

you're kind of meeting up with friends and stuff, all of those things kind of

die down. People start to go back to work. So I was on

maternity leave with, you know, a couple of our mu, and

gradually everybody started to go back to work and you find that you're spending a

bit of time by yourself or more time by yourself. And I

found that I would have always been

a bit of a hypochondriac. With like medical stuff.

And I found that I started this health anxiety sort

of started to creep in and

would consume me, like, consume my thoughts.

Just like, yeah, just really things like that

mole on my back. Like I'm just terrified. Like

that's something bad, you know, and just being kind of

obsessive, obsessive thoughts about this. And I think

after you become a mom as well, you realize just how

fragile life is and how important

you are to another human being and if, if anything

happened to you, your little unit, your family

will be ruined. And you know, you just appreciate

life and how important you

are and how much you love your family, etc. So I think

I just started to go down this spiral of like,

there's something wrong. Like, life is so perfect, like, how am

I so lucky? And just kind of waiting for, for something to go wrong

and, and eventually I was like, this is, this is

not right. So I went, I had to go and I, I

went to my doctor and they kind of recommended a

therapist which, which helped. But I

think that was something I hadn't really anticipated. But

I'm. But you know, person that would worry about health stuff.

It's not surprising. But yeah, you know, it did

kind of. Yeah, it was, it was kind of. Heightened quite a

bit. Very much, yeah.

And how old was Sophie when that started coming to light?

She was probably, I would say like 10 or

11 months. So it was a, it was around kind of

towards the end of my maternity leave before I went back to work.

And I think once I went, once I went back to work,

all those, not all of those thoughts, but it's certainly like died down.

I didn't have time to think about it because I was kind of

busy with, busy with family. So it

was great actually to get back to work. And it made me realize that actually

I just don't think that I could be a stay at home mom.

Like, it just, I don't think it would suit personality at all.

Yeah. Did you at any point find that

you found that you lost yourself in caring for her

or those around you?

Not lost. I mean, sometimes parenting

is just all consuming. Like I think it's an. It's inevitable you

do lose yourself a little bit and you, you lose more.

So the things that you enjoy

doing, like your hobbies and

like whether it's reading or, you know, playing music or, you

know, those things just sort of take a back seat

and you're too tired. I found that like

all I wanted to do when I had free time was take a nap.

That was like, like some people

would go to the gym. I'm like, take the

baby. I'm going to bed for 45 minutes. Like, that is my,

like, leave me alone. And I probably always have been

a bit like that. It's a sanctuary. But yeah, I think everyone

sort of loses themselves at this stage of

parenting and then you get it back when, when they start to get a bit

more independence. Did you notice a

shift in your relationship, say with Neil or with

family members or friendships?

Yeah, I mean, I think your relationship

with your partner is like, obviously, you know, it's not the same.

It can seem a bit. But no, I, you know, I

have to say, like, people I

appreciate, I appreciate Neil like, so much. I, I always did,

but he is so hands on for like,

stuff around the house that I'm just like, so

appreciative of him and like, we're a team and I feel like we really are

a team sometimes it can, it can always feel a little

transactional as well where, like, you're doing this and I'm doing this and you

know, it's like it's all planned out, but again,

you kind of, you'll. That will happen and then you'll,

you'll come back together again when, when the kids grow up and I,

and I, you know, I hope that that's the case. Obviously, we're not,

we're not in a bad place or anything. Yeah. Where you can

kind of feel like you're drowning a little bit in, in parenting and you just

have your purpose, you know, so of course that relationship will change.

Just on to, to your point and to another point, I think the relationship with

my mom changed because you kind of,

you understand maybe why they were the

way they were or the worry that they have for you or why

they never let you do anything or why they were so strict maybe

growing up, like, I get it now, you know, so, yeah, our, our

relationship is a lot better. I feel like we, we used to. Maybe

we're very similar, so we would

maybe, I don't know, not fight

but like bicker or I'd be, I'd be snappy or

something and I, I just don't. I feel like our relationship is a lot better.

Like we're. I'm more patient, she's more patient, and we kind

of understand each other's worlds a little bit more. Yeah, there's a mutual

understanding. I definitely got closer with my mom as well too. In motherhood. She

used to always say to me, you'll understand one day. Um,

Now I understand what she meant.

Yes. How did your transition from becoming

a first time mom, how did that shift when baby number two,

your son came along? Oh, I don't

know. I mean I, I think on the second one, I don't know if you

can kind of agree, everything is just so much more relaxed.

Well, I, I was more relaxed.

I couldn't actually breastfeed on Sophie

so I could on Jack. So those

experiences were kind of different. Everything was a bit more relaxed with

Jack because I knew what I was doing and not second

guessing myself but also the feeding situation

like much easier. So yeah, I think the

transition from one to two was actually fine.

And even the tiredness, I felt like I was more tired on

Sophie than I was on Jack. Even though I got two kids, it's like

my body is just like used to being tired all the time.

Yeah. Get on. Yeah. Just

rolling with it. Exactly. Did you ever feel

a pressure to be a certain type of mother or did you ever

feel like you should act or behave in a certain way

with your kids?

I'm probably, I'm probably more strict than I would

have like realized how strict I am. Like I can see, I can,

I don't know, like, I don't know. I, I wish, I don't know.

Can you maybe repeat the question again? Sorry, because I'm probably going off.

Did you feel, I think it's more getting at like did you feel pressure from

society or from people in your close circle to

be a certain type of mum?

Maybe I, in some ways but like not, not

in a bad way. But my sister in law is like super mom

sister. Like she's amazing. She's like

super like, you know, activities, organized play,

dates in her house, energy for

like days in the gym at you know, 5

o' clock in the morning. Like she's just super mom.

And I think like I don't, I don't compare myself

but like sometimes I'm like, God, I should really be doing

like more of these things where you know, look

you, you, we're all, you know, she's a different like personality to me.

You know, she's, she wouldn't sit down and watch like

Netflix to the extent that I would. You know, we're just, you know.

But like I think social media plays into that as well. We, we kind

of see what's on our phones and what we're, you know, what street,

what we're watching about. Like, you know, even

packed, packed lunches. Like, you know, when Sophie went to

school, I was like, oh My God, I'm gonna have to be, like,

really creative, like, Pinterest sort of

lunchbox for Sophie every morning. Like, this pressure that we put on

ourselves to. Yeah, to just be

these amazing people, amazing moms. But the reality is

we're. We're all kind of working during the day and

struggling, you know, like, unless you have the luxury of being, you know, stay at

home mom or whatever, I think we need to probably just take a little bit

of the pressure off. We're. We're dealing with a lot of stuff, you know, and

the mental load, I'm sure that comes up a lot on the podcast

is the mental load that, like, everyone. Not, like, not just

mums, but dads as well. I think we're all

guilty of putting a little bit of pressure on ourselves to be these, like, perfect

parents. But just take a step back a little bit. And

I try not to be too hard on myself. Like, kids are fine.

You know, we're doing okay. We can pay our bills. They have nice clothes and

nice food. Like, we're doing good. Like, it's

fine. Is there anything that you found has helped

giving you that kind of. That step back or that headspace to be a bit

kinder to yourself? I think,

like, just always in the back of my head, I'm like, your health

is your wealth. Like, as long as your family are, you know,

well, and you've got a roof over your head, like,

everything's fine. You know, I think don't.

Don't sweat the small stuff. Like, yes, the house might be a

little bit messy or whatever, but, like, it's fine. We've got young

kids. Like, yes, the carpet's filthy, but, like, we can

get a new one in a while. Like, Monday.

I desperately want a new carpet. But no, I have to wait. But maybe

they're getting older. Yeah. Yeah, my heart will be

broken. You

mentioned that in around the time you're about to go back to work for the

first time, that you had a lot of these obsessive thoughts coming into your mind

about worries about you and the important role you

played within your family

when you did that counseling. What were the pearls?

Or are there anything. Is there anything that stands out that you found really, really

helpful to change those thought patterns or

take a step back from them?

My therapist was just like, just think. Try to think

logically about these things. You know, so, like, if I had a

worry about, like, breast cancer, things like

this, she was like, you know, your age, it doesn't. It's not

in your family. You Know, like, just think logically about

these things, right? She would

recommend not, you know, going down the rabbit

hole of looking at, you know, specific sites. She was like, try to limit

the sites that you access this information from, like

trust. Just be the NHS website and

that would be your sort of your bible. And don't allow yourself

to look at anything else because if you

search on the Internet, you'll find all sorts of crazy stuff

like that will, you know, tell you that you're dying. So, like,

just small bits of, of tips like that,

that it was really, really helpful.

I think another part of that was just like

me catastrophizing, like, everything, like, because

obviously we were dealing with a pandemic, there was death,

you know, it was like debt was all we were hearing about on the news

and stuff. So it just was helping, just talk

things through a little bit. And it was, to be honest, it's just

nice to have someone to talk to in a, in a

safe environment and like, some even talk about, like,

the medical stuff. It was just about, like the daily

stresses of, you know, parenting and coping with,

you know, whatever was going on that week and maybe

like talking to her about it instead of, you know, other

people, like my husband or my mom, just having that, that safe space.

I actually really enjoyed it. But then life got so busy when

I went back to work that I, I couldn't keep it up. But yeah,

yeah, when you did go back to work a.

You mentioned that you changed careers essentially as

you got pregnant with Sophie. How does this new career

fit your lifestyle now compared to the previous career you had?

I think the. So like, what I

do now is I'm in tech sales. So I think

the great thing about those types of companies that we work

for and, and I'm in a sale, like, I'm in a sales role.

So there is kind of greater flexibility.

When you are working roles, you're essentially like the CEO

of your own business. You, you kind of manage your own workload.

So it does offer the flexibility that maybe other

companies, you know, wouldn't have allowed.

And remote work is obviously possible as well. And

I think, yeah, like for me, the company itself has, has been

brilliant. They've supported me through

two pregnancies and they've been

supportive, you know, going back to work. So I love it there.

Maybe in previous jobs, yeah, they wouldn't that flexibility would have been there.

But also it's kind of difficult to predict because back then there was no

Covid. So like, hadn't Covid not happened be in the office five days a week.

So, yeah, I think

the sales role, it's a much more pressured environment. Maybe

before that, you know, what I was previously doing,

so that has its added stress. And also, like, my husband does the exact same

job, so. Okay, he's also quite stressed. But we understand

each other's work. Yeah, yeah. Understand each other's work

sometimes help. Yeah. Yeah. I think when you understand what the other

person does and you understand the stresses, like, you can kind of support one

another through it. So, yeah, it's been. Definitely been

helpful. Do you find with that,

you know, mothering and careering, do you have any space in your

week for you? Are you still able to carve that out, or is that something

that has been long forgotten?

I'll always try to carve out like an hour

or at the weekend. Like, I don't even do anything that interesting.

I, I probably just, like, go wander around

Dundrum, and it's like, I get a coffee and I, like, I'm

not even shopping. Like, I'm just walking around with, like,

nothing to think about for an hour, look at some

nice things. And then, then I probably go to Tesco's and do the food

shop. So, like, that is the hour that I get together, you know, to myself.

Look, I'm getting better. Like, even carving out an hour this evening to do this

was like, no, this is happening. You know, I'm putting this in the diary. Appreciate

it. Be like, a bit organized. But I

think I'm, I'm probably just a kind of a.

I wouldn't say a lazy person, but, like, I, I,

I need, I need those few hours in the

evening every day to decompress. Like, there's people just,

like someone I work with every night of the week. They're out. They're like the

gym or they're going to a show, or they're like, Nick, they don't have, they

don't have kids. But I'm like, that, I couldn't do that. Like, I need

two hours to myself. Not. And not to myself, like, with just

like chilling on the couch, like, watching thing, having dinner,

talking to one another. And if I don't have that in the evening, I

feel like, robbed. Like, if someone makes me go and do something,

like, night in the middle of the week, I'm like, you know.

I'm messing with the schedule.

Yes. You know, lack of schedule. Like, I love having

nothing to do. So that's just what I prioritize. I,

I need that, those few hours in the evening to, to switch Off.

And I'm probably quite introverted in that

regard. You know, I just like my own company. Yeah, yeah,

that's not a bad thing. It's nice to enjoy your own company.

Is there anything from your

pre. Baby life that you miss or you would like to find

a way to integrate into your life now

if you had a magic wand and had time and

endless energy? Yeah, I mean,

I think I wish I had more

time for. Well, just get back to your kind of

passion projects. You know, I'd love to maybe

learn a new instrument or I'd love to, like,

I actually would love to go back to college. Like maybe, you know, these are

like my, my, my future goals. But yeah, I

think now I kind of look back on

uni and, and I'm kind of like, what? You know, I

didn't take that very seriously and I'd love to kind of go back and,

and do it all again, you know, take it seriously,

apply myself, maybe more so. But now is not the time to.

To do those things, you know, like I can do them in a few

years when the kids are a bit more, say, independent and they

start to have their own lives, then I can do that. Yeah, I

think going back to college and

educating myself a little bit more, that would be a

goal. Maybe get back to playing piano.

It's just sitting in my living room and I don't play it.

Those types of things because, you know, as I mentioned, like, I did my degree

in music, so like that's been. You're very creative and musical person. Yeah,

and I'm not really doing the creative things anymore.

So, yeah, there's all. That's always in the back of my mind to,

to maybe spend a bit more time on those passion projects.

It'll come in due time. I think there's a time and a place for all

these things and that's the juggling act of trying to

fit in what is most valuable for where you are in your life.

Your life now is very different than before you had kids and that's

to be expected. Is there anything that

you would do different or that you wish you would have known going into

motherhood or in those early years that you think could have

changed the experience or are

you happy with how things unfolded?

I think not necessarily about me,

but like, I wish I'd. I wish I'd maybe

understood what being a parent was like for my. Maybe my

friends. I don't know if that makes sense, but my, my friends

had babies before I did. Like, you know, a good few Years

before me and I. Maybe I didn't really

check in on them as much and I didn't understand,

like, how lonely sometimes

it can be or how challenging it can be and

tiring and.

Yeah, I think if I could go back, I would. And I've even said this

to. To friends of mine, if I could go back, I would

maybe make more of an effort with them because I

think I appreciate it then when I became a mum,

just people checking in on me, you know, so

that's a regret that I have. But it's not necessarily, you know, about

me as a mom, more me as a friend to my. To my mum

friends. Yeah, it's hard to know unless you've lived it

yourself. I think I can really connect with that as well.

Just almost more knowing what to say and

how to support. It's hard if you haven't been there

yourself. When you relate to their world,

you can feel a bit disconnected from them. But I think then,

now, as a parent, you know, now you. Your

friendships kind of come back together, I think later

on because you now understand each other's worlds a bit

more. Is there anything that. Any

advice or I suppose a mantra that you live by that helps you get

through the more difficult days of being

among. Not necessarily a mantra. I

don't know what like mantra is, but I think

for me, and I kind of touched on it earlier, just like your health. Your

health is your wealth. And I know that health has kind of a bit on

this. Yeah. But I think as long as

everyone is, you know, doing well is healthy and

you've got, you know, a roof over your head and you've got a

safe place for your family and a job,

and you know that once you have those things,

you're doing great. And not to put too much pressure on yourself to

be hitting kind of key milestones during

this early stage, you know, when you've got really young

kids, like, I'm okay with not going

out all that much. I know that I'll get it back and in a few

years and, you know, hopefully I'll have plenty of time to go

and do all of those things. But for now, my, my, my kind of purpose

is. Is just being at home and being a caregiver and that's okay.

Some people maybe not feel the same, but as long as

everyone's healthy and happy, that's

fine. We're doing okay. That's lovely. Yeah. A bit of

compassion for yourself and enjoying the present moment. Is there anything else you'd

like to share? No. I'm just like, I'm particularly. I'm in a particularly. Well,

like, a good mood today, but, like, I might feel very different.

We can do a redo when you're not feeling so happy to, but

I think it's all very. Valuable

advice. Yeah, it is. I think so. Like,

you know, the pressures of, like, social media and.

And looking at what everyone else is doing around you, you know, like,

even when friends are out at, like, pumpkin patches and

doing all these things every single weekend, like, we can

put so much pressure on us to do

the same. It's crazy. Like, the kids, you know, they just want to be in

a playground. Like, that's. That's their. That's all they care about

and having an ice cream, you know, like, we just need to take the pressure

off ourselves a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Going back to

real life and take a step away from Pinterest and Instagram life.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, thank you so much for taking

the time to chat with us today. I think what you shared is going to

resonate with a lot of people, especially the health anxiety. I think that's something that

we don't talk a lot about and something that definitely

creeps up when your role changes and you suddenly become

responsible for someone. So thank you for

that. And until next time, I

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