What if you could talk to the Animals like Dr. Doolittle?

This episode's guest, Jody Crotty (jodycrotty.com), does just that and teaches us that the animals around us have important messages to share if we just pay attention. Jody is a Certified Soul Level Animal Communicator® who offers intuitive Animal Communication sessions. She works with animals alive and those in spirit.

Jody has just released a Children's book titled Do You Talk with Animals. In his book, animals share heartfelt symbols with a girl, showing her about connecting with her intuition through what she sees, hears, feels, and knows about the world around her. This sweet and heartfelt book about animal communication and intuition will delight children and adults for years to come.

Host, shamanic teacher John Moore, talks to Jody about animal communication and the lessons of interconnectedness that animals have for us.

Announcer 0:27

Hello and welcome to speaking spirit where we talk about all things spiritual. Your host, John Moore is a shamanic practitioner and spiritual teacher. And now his John

John Moore 0:44

Luckily, I got to study shamanism and do a little bit of that. But my guest today is actually an animal communicator. She is a soul level animal communicator. She's going to correct me if I screw any of this up. My guest name is Jody karate. Sounds like karate, but it's spelled CR OTTY. You can find her at Jody karate.com And I'll I'll spell that out at the end of the podcast and everything. I want to read a little bit about her because I don't want to give anything wrong and you know how I am? So, are you grieving the loss of your pet and want to know how they are on the other side? Do you feel you're over overly affectionate pet chose you? I can answer yes to that already. Jodie helps you discover and understand the meaningful messages from the animals in your life. A session with God offers you the opportunity to receive loving wisdom from your animals perspective. To hear their side of the story. Jodi's intuitive nature with her cheerful demeanor provides gentle support when you're grieving the transition of your cherished companion, as well as offers assistance to you to resolve animal behavior issues. She connects with animals alive and in spirit, fostering the infinite love animals have in your life. And welcome, Jody, so happy to have you here.

Jody Crotty 3:00

Thank you, John. I'm so proud of you. You got everything correct.

John Moore 3:04

It was just kind of Jody and I have known each other for a few years. So I'm so happy that she came on and we're going to talk in a little bit. She's got a brand new book out. And I'm excited about it because it's a kid's book and I love kids books. And I think I think I have a kids book in me. But maybe I'll maybe I'll squeeze some tips out of God before the before the conversation is over. But I want to talk about I want to talk about animal communication because this is something even though I'm a shamanic practitioner, it's not some and I absolutely love animals and you can't be a shamanic practitioner or not love animals, but it's not something I specialize in. It's not something I have a gift for or have really trained in or anything like that. Can you tell me a little bit more about that and just sort of what so if I came to you, okay, my my girlfriend just got to my girlfriend's got a 17 year old show Allah and the 10 month old kitten. What a combo. Right? And so the show I was like, I can I can tell he's like, this little jerk, right? The cats running all over the house. And the cats just you know, hyper he's a Giza 10 month old kitten. Just crazy all over the place. So let's say I'm like, I got to figure out this, this, this behavior? What's going on with these animals? What does that look like? What does that consist of? With you?

Jody Crotty 4:37

Wow, John, that's amazing for sharing that. So you can do it, you really can. Because the animals are so willing to communicate with all of us at all different levels. So you don't necessarily have to be an animal communicator or a soul level animal communicator, as long as you're open to receive the messages that the animals are communicating to.

You can communicate with animals. I think, for me, it first started again, when I was little. And because I think when we're all little, we don't have that conscious thought, yeah. Oh, my gosh, this is going to happening, we are connected to nature, we are so much more sensitive, because our brain and our experiences haven't filled that cup yet, if that makes sense. So as we mature and get older, we dismiss that we kind of get rid of that intuitiveness. And even with shamanism, I believe too, that, you know, getting back to that, and getting back to the root of who you are, why you are here on this earth. And the cool thing is the animals are supporting you through having them as pets, or, you know, like you said, your girlfriend's, you know, cat, new cat and all of these things. So it's all about the connectedness that animals can bring to our lives, if that makes sense. Absolutely. And I do. It's interesting. And one of the things that I love about the fact that you did a children's book, I do think kids are so open. And I remember I've got I've got twin daughters, they just turned 15 and started to drive, I need anti anxiety meds.

John Moore 7:30

But when they were little, I can remember coming home from work, they were about three, and walking in the door, and just really frustrated with something that happened at work. And it opened the door and I was taking a step through, and I can hear my daughter yelling from the other room. I feel frustrated all of a sudden, and I don't know why. And I was like, holy smokes this kid from across the house without even looking at me without even being able to see me or hear me come in or whatever, is completely open to whatever, whatever that experience is. And they were, you know, I watched them be really open to the spirit world. But yeah, we we shut that stuff down. Because we're told, you know, don't believe in fairy tales and don't, you know, reality is only the things that you can touch and, you know, material realism and all of that sort of thing. So

Jody Crotty 8:23

not on Google. It's not true. Right? Find it on Google. And I think that just reiterates you know, as as we evolved as humans and become adults, you know, we make life choices. We all have freewill. Same thing with animals, the souls of the animals, they have free will to so being able to feel their support through the lessons that they're helping us learn, because they come from a place of unconditional love of infinite love. I mean, John, do you really think that your dog is going to be mad at you or frustrated with you? If you go to the grocery store with your pants on backwards? No. Your dog is going to look at you and say, Wow, look at John go look at how proud he is to wear those pants backwards. I'm so support. That's how it's all about the support all about the protection that they offer us. They allow us to feel love. As much as we love them. They love us the same in return, if not more, so then that way we can feel that love about ourselves. And that helps us grow and evolve and you think about all of your childhood pets that you have met Pat. You know, I think if you you ask anybody who had a special dog or a special cat, the first thing that they will say oh my gosh, I remember that cat fluffy that cat fluffy got me. And so that's that connection, and that connection with fluffy or your childhood pet never goes away, that allowed you to evolve into the person that you are. So looking at animals, as our teachers is a massive thing and saying, Wow, I'm so grateful that fluffy came into my life, because at that time, my parents were getting divorced. You know, I had to move, I'm really glad that I had a friend and fluffy. And so using that analogy, just kind of hits home, that point of how important animals are to our souls evolvement as much as that we are for them. That makes sense.

Yeah. And something something you said that I absolutely love is the is the phrase animal teachers or tea animals as teachers, because so often we, you know, in our culture, we see animals as like inferior, right? We see them as these less than beings, humans are at the top and this and that, but we have so much to learn. And you're exactly right. If I, you know, and I may have gotten to the store, have my pants on backwards, and the dog doesn't care, because that's not important. And it's not, it shouldn't be important. And they can teach us a lot about what, what is important. And I had a, I had a profound experience, a couple of profound experiences. But I had a profound experience one time working with another shamanic practitioner who was working with some horses. And I did,

I did a land clearing on the place where the horses were. And

as I was doing, you know, this practitioner was working with this one horse, so it had some behavior problems. And I was out in the field doing some work on the land, and it had been snow, snowing, and these two old horses came out. They were like checking me out, they're looking at me, then all of a sudden, they start jumping around and rolling in the snow, because they could tell what was going on with the land and the owner, the horses owner came to me she's like, I've never seen them behave like that before. I've never seen that before. They are so in tuned. And I think I mean, all animals, I agree. But we, we have this sort of special evolved relationship with horses and dogs. That there's there's this and I know people who are equine therapists, for example, who who do a lot of work with horses, as well. And it's brilliant. It's just it's absolutely brilliant. So yeah, I really resonate with with, with what you're with what you're saying? I do.

So the one of the quotes from the My children's book, do you talk with animals? Is animals see what we forgot?

Animals here, what we cannot? Animals, no more than we thought. And animals feel when we connect the dots. And so I feel from your experience that John with the horses, that's the perfect mantra or statement.

And they know more about us. They're like, you rock those backward pants, John.

So yeah, they definitely know and they see and I, it's all energy energy can just, it can't be created nor destroyed, it just kind of changes a little bit and shifts and evolves. And the animals are right there guiding us. So that's, that makes me have such gratitude for all of the animals, even those annoying little squirrels, or the raccoon that dumps over your trash, like if I'd have to go out there one more time. Pick up the trash from the raccoons. There's a bigger picture. And we just have to kind of figure out what emotion or why this is sparking that chord with

us. Yeah, and I think I think you hit on something that really resonated with me too, that the idea that animals perceive things that we can't, that we're incapable of with our normal five senses, and sort of, I remember hearing something. So we have like, you know, three types of or two types of

cells in our eyes that pick up light, one picks up color, and one picks up black and white. And some animals like the mantis shrimp, which is an interesting animal, if you ever look that up.

But your Yeah, your animals can can sense so much more than we can just, you know, even on a fit on a physical level, the senses of sight and smell and hearing are all different, but on a spiritual level, because they're so open, because they don't have egos. They don't block anything out. And they're just really, really open. So I find that to be really cool.

Yeah, and they live in the moment. They don't foresee the future. They don't really, I shouldn't say they don't care about the past. But it's not really they live in the present moment. And that's a huge lesson for all of us to understand, being more present in the moment. You know, whatever happens in the future is going to happen in the future. Whatever happens in the past has happened in the past, but we've learned from that. So living in the moment and living present is how the animals are kind of helping us. And so again, to go back, we have freewill. So we can choose whether or not we want to live in the present moment. Or we can choose to live in the past. And again, that's the freewill. But to go back, John, to what you were saying about the energies in the room, and the receptors, absolutely 100%, your animal is picking up on that energy. And it is scientifically proven. I mean, we we don't see gravity, but we see the effects of gravity. Same thing with animals, sensing the energy, and then the feeling of like, oh my gosh, I'm looking at my cat who's now looking at a blank wall in the dark. I'm feeling like that's my great aunt flow coming through. Why is that? Because that's probably the feeling that you're getting the fear that it couldn't be your inflow or the excitement that you're feeling because it could be an outflow. Regardless, you still have a choice. And so that conscious brain that we all have, and the feeling there can be a disconnect to where then you're no, that can't be that but that cat is just crazy. And again, that goes around with how you're brought up a negative belief. So you're choosing and that's totally fine too. But it's mainly the feeling that you get getting back in touch with your own intuition. And I feel that's as a child that's why I wrote the children's book is they are so new And they're so amazing with getting it, like the animals, they get it. And so then there's that thought of like, well, I had it when I was a kid, then what happened? Oh, I grew up and kind of moved on. And so I feel that's why I chose to write a children's book. Because I just wish and you probably feel the same way to John, that. I just wish that there was a book like this when I was a kid. Because I feel if there was a book like this saying, yeah, it's your intuition. Yes. It's your creativity. It's, I feel like the choices that I might have made might have been different, I would not have felt, Oh, my goodness, yeah, that Jody, she's, she's often fairy land, she's a little crazy. She's, she's out talking to the trees. And, and that energy kind of created, sometimes that negative belief to where you create a brought that, and then you start that. So again, I feel that's the premise of why I wrote a children's book opposed to an adult version, but adults can read it too, and get the same feeling of trusting your own intuition.

Yeah, I love children's books I read, even though my, my kids, my kids are voracious readers, and they read adult books now. But, you know, I still will, you know, in a bookstore or a library, pick up a children's book, because for one thing, I think they're so well written, they have to be they have to be really succinct for one thing, right? You have to, you know, and sometimes they're rhyming or whatever. But the artwork can be so incredible in these children's books, as simple as it can be, or whatever, I just think I just think there's a beauty and an innocence to that, that I really love. And, you know, the idea of growing up and having in like, learning to shut things down, or learning shut things off, shove them back into the shadow, do a lot of shadow work. You know, when I was a kid, I had I had out of body experiences, and I didn't know what they were, you know, it was like flying around my town flying around the house. I had no idea what was going on. It was, you know, I thought it was cool. But also a little scary. And I remember just like going to my local library and finding, you know, finding a book on out of body experiences and like, checking it out and reading. I'm like, oh, yeah, this is this is what this is what's been going on with me it was spontaneous. This is what's been going on with me. And you know, my mom, being being my mom, and I love love my mom don't want to say anything bad about my mom, but she's a mom, your mom, love your mom love my mom. She's a religious person. She's you know, doesn't, you know, none of the nothing that smacks of anything occult or anything at all. And so she's like, why are you reading that book? You shouldn't read that book and that back and so it was like, Oh, I guess I should guess I should shut this down. You know, I guess I shouldn't explore this. Well, you know, I now as a shamanic practitioner, I do this on purpose every day. So you know, it's okay. It's okay, mom, I'm or I'm alright. Living fine. Mom.

He's talking about the illustrations on with children's books. I agree with you, John 100%. So, looking for an illustrator. There's an amazing story with the illustrator, Katherine Ramsdale, who illustrated my book. She's very young, and she's a friend of mines daughter. And she, she said to me, she's like, I can illustrate your book. And at the time, you know, she was 17. And she's like, I can illustrate your book. And I'm like, okay, cool. So these, what she perceived as doodles were amazing, I was blown away. I said, Katherine, these are doodles. And so then the, the collaboration happened to where I said, I want you to take the story, I want you to take the characters and just go with it, which is the premise of my book. And Katherine nailed it. In all of these illustrations. She was amazing. She picked up on what the animal in a sense, she was communicating with the characters in the book, and the way that she was able to incorporate the the girl from the book, and a little bit of herself as well as me. And then she also incorporated a genius idea. I don't, I don't want to give it away. When it came to the characters themselves, how can we have the characters of the book integrate with each other? So there is an Easter egg in the book? And it was brilliant. So Katherine did an amazing job. with being able to do these illustrations connected with the book, that is what the book is about. Seeing, hearing feeling, what do you think Gus would say? What do you think this looks like? What are you feeling that he feels when he goes to take his winter nap? All of these things, Katherine nailed it. And she is a fantastic, fantastic artists. And she has an amazing road ahead of her on this journey. And so being I was so honored that she did all of the illustrations for this book. She really got it. And I'm so proud of her again, being as young as she is and saying that, Oh, these are just doodles what? These are doodles, most illustrators who are older, don't even get it. And so that was another reason why I chose a younger illustrator, or the book.

Yeah, I think that's fantastic. I think clearly somebody with a with a very bright future ahead of her and imagine, gosh, what was I doing it? 17? Yes, that spent a little time traipsing around Europe and doing things doing doing things I don't want to speak about but yeah, 17 I definitely was not. Nobody was hiring, you need to illustrate a children's book at that age, for sure. But I do think it's great. And I think I have seen so many fantastic young artists and how great to have to illustrate your first published book at 17. And hopefully, you know, I don't know if her intention is to do more illis you know, more illustrations along those lines, but definitely a bright future ahead. So that's, that's pretty exciting. I want to ask, So if if I weren't, let's say, let's say I grab the max, the 17 year old Chihuahua. And he's a great he's a great guy. By the way. He's got real Chihuahua.

Don't give me too much information. Okay,

I won't. I won't. But this is more hypothetical. Right. So let's say I bring them to you. And I say I want to know what's going on with Max. He I can't tell if he's happy. He's unhappy. This new cats in the house, I can tell he's a little bit bothered by the change in the house. He's 17. He set in his ways. He's ancient, right? How many? How many years is 17? And dog years? Very old. Very set in his ways. He likes quiet this cats running all over the house. You're giving me too much. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

What's get his perspective on stuff? He does feel old. What if he

writes? Right? Okay. So that's just my Yeah, you're right. That's my, that's my perspective. What would that what would that be like for you? Do you how do you how do you sense what's going on with him? And or, or any animal for that?

Yeah, so a normal session is I connected with the person first, I find it easier for when we go into the animal part of the reading session, to connecting with the person just to kind of see what's coming up for you. Because when we get to the animal part, it makes that connection a lot stronger, because you're part of their life as much as they're part of your life. So it's really important to understand your perspective of things as well. So I connected with the person, obviously, with the person's permission, I'm not going to go in there if you don't want me to this totally fine, too. So then I get the gist of the person moving on the animal, the less information I know about a situation, the better the information that comes through, so the better the reading for you. So then that way, you know, I'm not interpreting it, you know, it's coming directly from the animal. I'm just that middleman kind of passing along that information for you. I didn't look you up on Google or anything like that. On Facebook, you know that the information that I'm sharing is coming directly from the animal. So it can come in through feelings it can come through. Like I said, song lyrics, nine times out of 10 It doesn't make a whole heck of a lot of sense to me why your dog is coming dressed up as a clown. I have no idea. But for you, it will make sense because you can either say oh my gosh, I'm petrified of clowns, or, yeah, he is really silly like a clown. So it's all through symbolism that the animals sometimes will communicate. Even in spirit, the animals that have crossed over will share through symbolic means or song lyrics or they give me a feeling in my physical body. So we get to ask a question. open ended questions are usually best. You're gonna read more information From that animal, if you have, you know, why is he really acting like that? What is it that he wants me to know? Instead of? Is he happy? Did he make it to heaven? Things like that. And the animals most often will kind of laugh at me they're like, really? That's the kind of question that you want to ask. So it's it's very basic, it's very casual. During the session, you're part of the session, as much as I'm part of the session in the animals part of the session. It's almost a three way conversation, or listening to what the animal has to say, how he's responding. Sometimes, if the information doesn't make sense, during the session, that's okay, too. We just go back to the animal and say, Hey, fluffy, can you show us in a different way that will make sense to John? Or, Oh, wow. And then if it still doesn't make sense, you trusting that the information that came through will make sense when it's supposed to make sense to you, it might not make sense to this moment, because I get like a call or an email, or a text message a week later from a client saying, Oh, my gosh, do you remember when you said that? No, I really don't. But I do tell that, okay, well, it just happened. Okay. But it didn't make sense to you in the moment we were doing. So again, it's all that energy work that the animals are helping you to discover about yourself. So that's a session and, and when we go into a session, the humans and I'm gonna say humans versus animals, humans have so much more emotion than the animals do. And that's not a bad thing. We can if we are still in the grieving process of We've just lost a pet. Or like you, Oh, he's so old. He's, you know, barely hanging on. Okay, that's how you feel. But what if he feels like he feels like he's like Hugh Jackman, and he's ready to go play Wolverine in the movie, he feels great. He feels fine in his body. And that's the perception that we see that they are trying to communicate, I don't feel that way, I do get a lot of questions from owners who want to know

when their animal is going to crossover. And this is a big, big one. For for people to understand. Going back to what I said before, animals have a choice. They have a soul just like we do. And they choose how and when, who's gonna be there when they want to go. And it all revolves the lessons that they are helping us to learn about the transition process. If somebody is afraid of death, an animal might not want that person there when they cross over. And so those questions kind of come up. And it's a very emotional time for for individuals to talk about that. Another case in point is, I have clients who come to me and say, My dog is so anxious, I can't bring my dog anywhere. He's so anxious, he says, Can you help? Can you help? Okay, it's not really the dog that's anxious. And so most people, John are like, No, it's not me. It's not me. It's like, okay, well, what can the animal do to help you work on this issue of maybe anxiety in public places, and things like that? So we get a lot of running the gamut of those types of questions.

I had a really, really interesting conversation with a friend some time ago, about dogs in particular. And the question came up with somebody else, and he brought it to me. And the question was, can dogs be racist? Right? And my answer was no dog, you know, dogs don't know or care about race. And the person who had asked him was saying, Well, you know, I have this dog, and this dog loves everyone. But this dog will bark at people of a different race, when it when it sees them. And, and my thought, and I don't know, because I haven't met this other person. My father is the dog is responding to the owners energy when the owner sees this person, and this person might not. I mean, we all have implicit bias, right? We all have that I'm not excluding myself. From this at all. I work really hard to be tolerant and loving of everyone, but I grew up in this culture. And I recognize that that we all have implicit bias. So I think this person may have some hidden feelings towards people of different races that the dog is responding to. And then he's like, Oh, wow, my dog doesn't like people have this, this racist bar he barks at them, he doesn't bark at this person. And I'm just thinking to myself, that dogs picking up on you, my friends, because dogs don't care. Dogs don't really don't care, like who your parents were or what, you know where you came from, or any of that, it just seemed, it was just kind of a funny question. And when I, when I talked to my friend about he was like, Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. That really makes so much sense.

And so it's we're in even taking it one step further. We're all made up of energy. And I wouldn't say that the animals don't care about race, it's just not as important as humanity. And in the bigger picture, animals get the bigger picture. That's why they can feel when we connect those dots when we finally understand hey, wow, that's, that's kind of cool. So they're, they're picking up to go back to what you were saying about the what was the the squid

was the mantis shrimp? Yeah, the shrimp,

the shrimp and the sensors. So Scientifically speaking, yes, animals are so much more in tune and to everything around them through their nature, whether there be domesticated dog to a wild wolf. So it's the energy that they're picking up on, it's the vibrations that they're picking up on. So in that sense, race doesn't really, I don't want to say play a card. But if that person is having a bad day, or if that person is not in a good vibrational state, that dog could be saying, You know what, this is not a good person for you to be around right? Now. Let's go back over here. So how is the dog going to do that he is going to bark, he's going to kind of get in the middle of you, in addition to what you're saying, John, is that he's picking up on that energy. So it's very true, the dog or whatever animal is picking up the energy of the person, the picking up the energy of the person that they care about. So it's almost like they're working double time, sure to kind of get into whatever situation, because they want you to feel safe, they want you to feel protected, they want you to feel love, they want you to feel that you're worthy of having a communication with this person. So that's what they're teaching us. It's almost, again, it's that innate thing that we dismiss all of the time. So your friend, kind of through talking to you finally understood well, yeah, maybe. And just that small shift in his own energy is now going to shift how the dog is going to respond to another person, or whether it be a male or female, we do get that my dog doesn't like males. Okay, let's figure out why is it the person? Or is it because of the child, not the child but a trauma maybe that the dog is associating with the expansion of the soul is so much more and so we you know, reincarnate and things like that. That's a whole nother topic to get into. But we still have I call it like the cosmic residue, or like the cobwebs within our souls. If we come down here, we still have to learn a lesson. Sometimes we know and understand that lesson. When we come down in the lifetime. We go back home, we got to learn it again. We got to come back. And so the animals are trying to teach us to evolve so we can understand and kind of get that lesson.

Yeah, that makes Yeah.

Go back. I don't want to go back to the dog. Your Is it your girlfriend's 17 year old dog?

Yeah, yeah. Max.

And his name is Max. Yeah. All right. So just give me a sec. So you can keep talking. I'm just gonna connect really quickly with Max. And I'm gonna say so how do you feel about John? Do you have any information? Is that okay, John? Yeah. Oh,

yeah. Max. Yeah, absolutely.

Again, it's more surrounding the your relationship with him. And right away when I'm connecting in with Max, he's showing me a bright, spherical light. And he's all he's shown me Yoda from Star Wars is carrying this light. So when I asked him about the light Oh, he says he's the light for you. He bringing you the light, is what he's saying. He's also sharing he wants to share his wisdom with you So he's presenting you with this. And I know it sounds very sci fi movie, but that's what he's showing me. So he showed me Yoda. So when I think of Yoda, I think of somebody who's wise, not somebody who's in a Star Wars movie. So is there a bigger message? Man, Max, that you want to share with John? Max is saying sometimes, John, you don't see the light. You don't see the light within yourself. And sometimes you don't see the light in him and other people. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. For sure. And so he wants to share this wisdom of light with you. And he keeps calling him he says he's very spry. I'm very good.

But how he's saying it is like an old man voice. I'm very spry.

When he's saying keeps an eye don't use the word spry.

I think I think I have used that word to describe him. Sometimes.

There you go. So that makes sense. So yeah, it's just how they are trying to share in this particular situation, and bringing your awareness to. So yeah, and just by knowing that is shifting, and so you're like, Oh, he's old and all these things. But he's like, No, I'm feeling pretty spry. I don't know what you're talking

about. Yeah, yeah, he Yeah. I mean, that makes sense. And something that's really funny is he actually he likes being dressed up. Something he actually really enjoys it. I know. Not all animals do. But he has a little Yoda hat years in the hole. Are you serious? Yeah. Real. Yeah, for real. Real, it's very funny. We have all kinds of pictures of him dressed up as like a dragon and dressed up as Yoda and dressed. He's so cute. He's such a cute,

the less information that I know. I mean, I didn't need a picture of him. I didn't need him touching me or anything. It was allowing that energy to come in, and allowing him to present in a way that he wanted to present. So it was his perspective. He knew how that was important for you to understand. And cool. You look like Yoda to me. And so what, and that's really cool that you validated that he has a Yoda costume. So for me, I don't need that information. And so I have several clients who say, Okay, can you come to the house? I can't, it's a little distracting for me, because I want to get down and play with the dog and do all of these things. So it takes a little bit more of energy management because I have such a good time with them. But again, energy, it just, it just kind of comes I mean in flows. So I don't want to interpret how that dog wants to get the message or that how that animal wants to get the message to the person.

Yeah, it's very similar to when I'm working shamanic Lee. I have to try to set what I'm seeing aside. And very frequently information comes through, and symbols and metaphors and makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. And I had a I had a client, for example, in Scandinavia. And when I met with her, and I was working, I kept seeing turtles swimming above her. I'm like, I don't know, this might mean absolutely nothing to you. But there's turtles all around you just like my grandmother collected turtles. And it's actually weird for this part of the world. But she had pet turtles, and she's she passed away. And so yeah, I mean, I just, it's hard sometimes I get it like you want to, you want to set your thinking mind aside a little bit and just deliver, deliver the information. So I totally get not kind of like front loading, right when people give me too much information upfront, and then it you know, my conscious mind tries to cram the symbols and stuff that I'm getting into whatever I already know. And that might make things worse. Frequently, it does frequently.

The message in that too, is that your clients might need that from you. Just a listening ear. I've had clients do that too, to where they're like I have to get this out. I have to get this out. Okay. And you just allowing, so everybody is different, especially again during the grieving process. They feel like such a loss over their pet and I feel as being a pet loss professional and I Understanding families in that aspect allowed me to kind of open the door a little bit more when it came to animal communication, especially animals that are on the other side. That's kind of, I don't want to say facilitated it. But kind of open that door a little bit wider to say, Okay, what what is happening here? What is going on? The biggest challenge, I think, for all of us is to understand is to trust that trust, I think with just humans in general is really, really hard. We have a hard time allowing the trust to come in and to and to trust it. Just like with shamanism, you have to trust the information that's coming through, whether it be from the trees, the earth, and there's that knowing that innate knowing I just know that this is happening. You can't explain it, because it's not going to be on Google. I just know it. And that's the whole part that the animals say, yeah, she gets it. We've connect the dots. Yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah. Yeah, it's, and this, this relationship that we have with animals, I think is is so special, and it's so important. It's important to us to our continued evolution, it was it's been important to us all along the way, if you look back to like, even before there was agriculture, they were domesticating dogs and horses, right. So that came first, these relationships with animals came way before we started planting crops, or, or building cities or any of these, any of these things. And so those relationships to me, I always, I don't know, the scientific aspect of my mind always kind of looks at things, from an evolutionary perspective, like, the important stuff came first. Right? So animal relationships, shamanism came before any kind of organized thing any before, you know, we see it in cave paintings. And we, of course, most a lot of cave paintings are having to do with animals, and not just hunting scenes, but actually the people changing into animals, the animals changing into people. And there are I think, that in the past our relationship, because of the way that you know, culture has shaped our the way we view things, I think we were much, much closer and much more in tune, I think we had to be to survive, we don't have to be anymore, I can live in a house and I don't have to, I don't have to interact with the animals outside or, you know, you know, compete for food or any of those things. But there is no going back to that. And unlearning, in a way is similar to going back to our childhood when we were open and free. So going back to the, I guess, the childhood of mankind, and is also like going back to our own individual childhood where we were open, where we had these relationships, and we were living closer to nature, we were living in more relationship with the animals, we're living in relationship to the trees to each other, we had to, we still have to, but people I think, you know, especially today, during the pandemic, people are, you know, we lock ourselves away in our homes and don't interact much. But that relationship is is extremely important. And you hit the nail on the head and it's shamanism is all about relationship. It's all about relationship to self, to spirit, to others, to animals to nature. And that's how we survive and move forward as a species if and if we neglect those relationships, no matter how small or whatever we think they are. You know that that's a real detriment to us as a as a species, I think. Anyway, that's my, that's my soapbox. I'll climb climb back down.

To agree with you. Yeah, it's it's learning lessons. And you think, Okay, well, I know I'm not going to stick my finger in a light socket, or I

put my hand on a stove. Why? Well, you learned your lesson. And our parents have always said that. Well, you're gonna learn your lesson. Yeah. Uh huh. And so the animals that are in our lives, help us in that way to help us learn these lessons. And it is all about choice. And to go back to when you were saying about the relationships of, you know, the, the cave people and how they celebrated the animals. They even, you know, the hunting, they never wasted any part of that. Right and the animals knew and made kind of the choice to say we're here to work together. We're here you know, because you are learning about how to survive you're learning this you're learning the ways in and you think of all, especially shamans, how connected they are, and animals in, in tune, just like with the gravity and everything, we are all connected. And we're all kind of moving together. And that's the amazing thing about animal communication. We can all do it. It doesn't require any special skill, as long as you are being present in the moment, allowing the information to come in and trusting it. And I mean, another example is, how many times have you gone to a party, and you get all dressed up, you have to go to this party, you feel obligated to go to the party, your friends are going to be there, you're going to have a good time, you get to the door and the bouncer is not very nice. Now you're feeling I really don't want to go in there. I feel like I'm going to have a miserable time. But you know, in your conscious brain, hey, my friends are in there. They're waiting for me. So what do you do? You squash that feeling of shakiness. And you let your brain take over. So then you go to the bar, and you order silver drink, the bartender is not very nice, or he messes up your order. There's still that innate feeling saying I, there's something about this place, and the universe, and the energy and the connected kind of keeps giving you these signs like this. And then you don't get it. Right, very much. So with the animals, the animals are communicating with you, you're just not getting it sometimes. Because whether it be a negative belief about yourself, that you're not worthy of being lovable, and your dog loves you so much, or, yeah, it's, I could go there's my soapbox. Because I could go on that forever. So yeah, it's getting back in touch, and acknowledging and trusting your intuition. And allowing yourself to feel it. If it doesn't feel good, then don't do it. I mean, and the animals are saying the same thing. It doesn't feel good, don't do it.

Yeah, for sure. There was this.

There's this really cool study, and I'm going to paraphrase it because I can't I can't remember exactly what happened. But I think it was with chimpanzees, when they were looking at two troops of chimpanzees that weren't in contact with each other. And one troop, like learned a new skill, how to use a tool and chimpanzees, we used to think that only humans use tools, but that's wrong. Crows use tools, chimpanzees use tools. So we're not as smart as we think we are

compared to compared to our other non human people, friends.

I guess. Or if you have a dog that dresses up in a Yoda costume and he is presenting you with a spherical ball. Yeah. Yeah. Take it. Take the ball. That's the lesson to be learned, right?

Well, we believe it or not, we've been talking for almost an hour.

Oh my gosh.

So, but I mean, this has been absolutely fantastic. And I feel like I could talk to you for like three more hours easily. So I hope that, um, we can have you on again, sometime in the near future. I do want to, I want to give a, I want to give a plug for your book. Because if you have children in your life, get a copy of this book, just just do it. It will be a fantastic gift. Or guess what if you don't have children in your life, get get a copy of this book, too. And one of the nice things about this book is that $1 goes for every book, a dog goes directly to the Center for Wildlife and Cape neddick. Main, they do fantastic work. It's an animal. It's an animal rescue. And I have, I have had the opportunity to call them to pick up animals that I have found, and they do fantastic work. So let me talk about this book a little bit. It's called, do you do you talk with animals? And the description is Have you ever talked to the bear a fish or even a stinkbug? I can't say I've ever have talked to a stinkbug. But Oh, that wasn't enough. stinkbugs very

interesting story with little stinkbug.

Yeah, there's a there's a follow up book there the wisdom of stinkbugs? Yes, absolutely. What do you think animals would share with you? In do you talk with animals, animals share heartfelt symbols with a girl showing, showing her about connecting with her intuition through what she sees, hears, feels and knows about the world around her, engaging the reader to embrace and discover through their senses, and asking, Who did you connect with today? This sweet and heartfelt book about animal communication and intuition will delight children and adults for your two years to come. And I wholeheartedly agree. Get this for the kids in your life, get this for the adults in your life. Get this for yourself. And then to get this book, they will go directly to your website.

Correct? Yes. So they're going to go to JodyCrotty.com, which is jodycrotty.com. And there on my website, you'll see animal communication sessions as well as where to get the book. And as John said, every book sold dollar goes to the Center for Wildlife, the Center for wildlife. One of the characters in the book, actually Fern, the owl, I had connected so all of the characters actually in the book are animals that I've communicated with even the stinkbug. And the messages that they have, and that what they shared with me is what's in the book. So fern is one of the ambassadors at the Center for wildlife. So their mission is to help rehabilitate wild animals, as well as educate the community and people about how we can do our part to help all animals. So that's why I decided to have Fern in my book and she really encouraged me to the wisdom that she shared with me. Even the stinkbug had some wisdom, John,

I believe you I just have never I've never talked to a stink bug, maybe I should.

It's them. The message is is really about your own uniqueness. We all know that stink bugs are not very pleasant when we squish them and things like that. So and I actually have a photograph of the stink bug and so Katherine did an amazing job capturing stinky bug. And it was really all about embracing your own uniqueness. Just like they have their own unique little odor. You might not like it just like sometimes we don't like those pieces about ourselves but it's really embracing your yourself through your own intuition and it's it's an amazing book and it was such a joy to connect in with the animals and hear what they wanted to share. And just like our pets, animals want to communicate with us to to bring about that human animal connection.

Well thank you so much again, I will. lovely to have you here. I will absolutely ask you to come on again. I feel like we could talk for three more hours and and have lots to talk about. For those of you who are interested I will put the I will put Are these the URL to her? Her website, and she's got a beautiful website, by the way. And I just wanted to to comment and say like, you've got a video I think of a collie on the front of your website or is it a Sheltie is a call your show?

Yeah, there's another interesting story about that, too. So I had a web designer who I absolutely love. Her name is Alison. And we wanted to revamp my website.

And I was like, yeah, and we're talking about doing a video and all that. And so she pulled up this video. I started to cry immediately when I saw this video, because as a child, I had a collie, and you read my bio, just see was her name. Jessie was my best friend, and I'm gonna cry just thinking about her. She's taught me so many lessons and still teaches me lessons today. And it was amazing that Alison, who was my web designer, put that video up there. Again, she didn't know anything about it. Very much synchronicity, and I was blown away. And of course, I called her crying thanking her for putting in she's like, I just grabbed a video and I was like, Alison, you have no idea. You grabbed

a part of me. And that's, that's why I keep it up there as well. So it's in my childhood dog was a Sheltie or miniature Collie. So when I clicked on that, I was like, yeah, like it rocked me back in my seat a little bit when I clicked on that as well. And, man, what a what a smart, beautiful breed of animal. They are just, yeah, get it, get it get a collie or a Sheltie in your life. They're just fantastic.

See how the animal communication still works? John, you have that dog so many years ago, when you're a kid, it's that emotion and that sense of honor that you were blessed with that dog.

And so that's the connectedness that I talked about. That never goes away, never goes away. You will always have that.

Absolutely. Well, folks, we have to wrap up. I know we could talk for a lot longer. But thank you again for for joining me today. I'm gonna I'll play play some music and, and we'll we'll we'll talk to you next time.

Thank you, John.

Thank you.

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