In this episode, I speak with Dana Chapman, a nutritional therapist, about practical ways to fuel our bodies and minds for success and joy at work. Dana shares insights on the importance of nutritious food, movement, and sleep, emphasizing the role of protein in maintaining energy and motivation. We discuss the signs of inadequate nutrition and practical steps to start making sustainable changes in our diet. Dana also shares her personal journey to professional joy and offers advice for mid-career professionals looking to enhance their well-being and performance through better nutrition.
Speaker Links:
Website: https://www.dc-nutrition.co.uk/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dana-chapman-85b73316
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If you enjoyed this, you might also enjoy my Life Satisfaction Assessment. It's a 30-minute program where I guide you through a deep dive into 10 areas of your life to assess what's bringing you joy and what's bringing you down. I call it Derailed and it's a fabulous place to begin a joy-at-work redesign.
If you're anything like me, there's so much data out there on fueling
Lucia Knight:body and mind for success, it's hard to see a path through to practical changes
Lucia Knight:you can make to fuel you for success in life, and of course, joy at work.
Lucia Knight:I invited Dana Chapman, a nutritional therapist I've known for years, to
Lucia Knight:speak to you because she cuts through the noise and easily translates the
Lucia Knight:latest research into practical know how.
Lucia Knight:That we can understand easily and implement this weekend.
Lucia Knight:Let's dive in.
Dana Chapman:Hello, I am Dana Chapman.
Dana Chapman:I'm a nutritional therapist.
Lucia Knight:I'm so excited to speak to you today.
Lucia Knight:I've got lovely questions and I can't wait to hear the answers.
Lucia Knight:Okay.
Lucia Knight:Dana, I think it's impossible for us to experience joy at work
Lucia Knight:if we're not fueling our bodies and minds with nutritious foods.
Lucia Knight:Honestly, there's so much information out there.
Lucia Knight:It's a bit overwhelming for most of us.
Lucia Knight:Can you tell me the cornerstones of a healthy body and mind?
Dana Chapman:Absolutely.
Dana Chapman:And I think it's more than food and nutritious food, but I can
Dana Chapman:start with nutritious food.
Dana Chapman:And I always say, going back to how our ancestors ate, as in, let's go back
Dana Chapman:to Meat and two veg, and that doesn't necessarily only need to be for dinner.
Dana Chapman:Let's bring that in lunch and at breakfast as well.
Dana Chapman:So what we're really wanting, especially for happiness, is lots of protein in
Dana Chapman:the diet, and that is all day long, not just at dinner, you're wanting breakfast
Dana Chapman:and lunch as well, but you can't negate the impact that movement and sleep have.
Dana Chapman:For our happiness and joy as well.
Dana Chapman:I mean, there's so much research into how movement is important for happiness
Dana Chapman:and how sleep is important for it.
Dana Chapman:And I think we all know how a poor night's sleep affects our mood.
Lucia Knight:Big time.
Lucia Knight:So it's not just food, it's everything.
Lucia Knight:Okay, but protein, particularly at mid career, we've just
Lucia Knight:got to focus on that all day.
Lucia Knight:Okay, so what are some of the signs that you see in your daily
Lucia Knight:work of a professional who isn't fuelled for success or joy?
Dana Chapman:Lack of energy is generally one of the most ones.
Dana Chapman:Depression or anxiety creeping in.
Dana Chapman:So these are all symptoms that your body is not working as it should.
Dana Chapman:And it may even be things on paper as well.
Dana Chapman:So going to the doctor and them saying that you now have high cholesterol
Dana Chapman:or you've got high blood pressure or you are going into type 2 diabetes.
Dana Chapman:All of these are symptoms or signs that you are not fueling yourself
Dana Chapman:correctly because they are all symptoms and signs that your body isn't coping
Dana Chapman:with the foods that it has been given.
Dana Chapman:But more than that lack of energy throughout the day, lack of
Dana Chapman:motivation, all of those play into just not being fueled correctly.
Dana Chapman:And again, it starts with what you eat first thing in the morning.
Dana Chapman:Not only what you may eat just before feeling lethargic or not
Dana Chapman:having energy in that afternoon.
Dana Chapman:So many people get that afternoon slump and it might be because of
Dana Chapman:what they've had for breakfast, not because of what they've had for lunch.
Lucia Knight:Ooh, all right.
Lucia Knight:And then the opposite.
Lucia Knight:So when a body and brain are fueled for joy, what does that feel like?
Dana Chapman:I think it's vibrance, really.
Dana Chapman:I always like to say, When you feel yourself correctly, you think
Dana Chapman:well, as well as feeling well.
Dana Chapman:So you have that energy, you have that vibrancy about you.
Dana Chapman:You have motivation to do things.
Dana Chapman:You can think clearly throughout the day.
Dana Chapman:You don't get those periods of time where you can't actually sit down and
Dana Chapman:concentrate for an hour to two hours.
Dana Chapman:So it's that being able to.
Dana Chapman:Do whatever you want to do without feeling like it's your
Dana Chapman:age that's holding you back.
Lucia Knight:Oh That's good.
Lucia Knight:So I like that sort of there's a cognitive part of that There's a
Lucia Knight:feeling part of that and there's almost a heart part of that like a
Lucia Knight:motivation a drive part of that as well.
Lucia Knight:Lovely
Lucia Knight:Okay, so if someone is listening and they're very interested in what you're
Lucia Knight:saying but they're not feeling tip top and they suspect their nutrition or
Lucia Knight:their health status choices generally may be at fault, practically speaking.
Lucia Knight:Where can they start to make a difference this weekend?
Dana Chapman:I would be starting with small simple changes that become
Dana Chapman:sustainable, bigger changes over time.
Dana Chapman:We all know that small habits that are achievable are much better than
Dana Chapman:trying to overhaul the diet altogether.
Dana Chapman:So my advice is always pick one thing to change.
Dana Chapman:So be that I'm going to add more greens into my diet, or I'm going to focus
Dana Chapman:on having protein with each meal, or I'm going to focus on my breakfast
Dana Chapman:and getting my breakfast really balanced so that fuels me for the day.
Dana Chapman:And once you've got that habit down and implemented, then you can
Dana Chapman:start to think about what other changes you can make as well.
Dana Chapman:So pick the area I would say that you think needs the most change
Dana Chapman:and start there, but it needs to be achievable and attainable.
Dana Chapman:So something like more greens.
Dana Chapman:It can be fairly easy because you can just add a handful of leafy greens to
Dana Chapman:a dinner or to a lunch and you can cook it or you can have it raw in a salad
Dana Chapman:dressed with olive oil and some vinegar.
Dana Chapman:Focusing on protein with each meal, that can be sustainable as well because you
Dana Chapman:can think about, okay, just each meal, how can I get more protein or a sufficient
Dana Chapman:amount of protein into each meal?
Dana Chapman:So those are my small implementable, is what I suggest, small
Dana Chapman:implementable changes that lead up to bigger changes over time.
Lucia Knight:Brilliant.
Lucia Knight:So we've always, so we've got the dream of eating beautifully every
Lucia Knight:minute of the day, but the reality this weekend, if you did that twice,
Lucia Knight:or if you made one little change and repeated it Saturday and Sunday, that
Lucia Knight:would be a change starter, wouldn't it?
Lucia Knight:Fabulous.
Lucia Knight:Now my very final question for you is, What does joy at work
Lucia Knight:look like or feel like for you?
Dana Chapman:Oh I am one of those very fortunate people to absolutely love what
Dana Chapman:I do and this is a second career for me.
Dana Chapman:And I knew once, whilst I was making the career change that I didn't
Dana Chapman:want to work a day in my life.
Dana Chapman:So I wanted to do something that I absolutely loved.
Dana Chapman:So Joy at Work for me is helping people understand how their bodies
Dana Chapman:are working and to practically get their bodies to work that little bit
Dana Chapman:better so that they can feel better, think better and perform better.
Lucia Knight:Fabulous answer.
Lucia Knight:Thank you very much, Dana.
Lucia Knight:If you enjoyed this, you might also enjoy my Life Satisfaction Assessment.
Lucia Knight:It's a 30 minute program where I guide you through a deep dive into 10 areas
Lucia Knight:of your life to assess what's bringing you joy and what's bringing you time.
Lucia Knight:I call it D.
Lucia Knight:It's a fabulous place to begin a joy at work redesign.