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Ep 53 - How your childhood eating could be affecting your IBS
Episode 5314th May 2024 • IBS Nutrition, Digestion & Gut Health: Inside Knowledge for people with IBS • Anna Mapson IBS nutritionist
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This week is all about how our childhood experiences with food shape adult eating habits.

I cover:

  • emotional connections to food, attitudes developed during childhood, and the impact of social media on dietary choices.
  • Exploring the complexities of food associations, family mealtime dynamics, parental influences.
  • Suggestions for self-reflection and mindful eating practices are provided, to help you consider your past interactions with food and how it influences dietary behaviours today.

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If you've ever decided to change your

diet to better support your digestion,

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but struggle to stick to this new way

of eating, then this episode is for you.

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There are lots of reasons why we

struggle to make changes to our diet.

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Could be down to time, lack of

clarity on your goals, or just feeling

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really confused about what to eat.

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But the other area I'm going to cover

today is our attitudes to food, and

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how our childhood experiences of eating

can influence what we do as an adult.

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This week I'm going to talk about how

meanings are linked to foods, and how

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this can play a part in how challenging

we find it to follow a new diet.

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And

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welcome to episode 53 of the

Inside Knowledge podcast for

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people with IBS, I'm Anna Mapson.

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In my work as an IBS nutritionist, I

work with people all over the world who

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have all different kinds of relationships

to food I find it so interesting.

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The things that we think are

completely normal and just, this is

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how I've always done it, could be

completely alien to somebody else.

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And once you get into understanding

a little bit more about how people

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come up with these habits, ideas

and attitudes about food and feeding

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ourselves, Then we can sort of dig a

little bit deeper and see whether it

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is linked to how they've grown up.

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Is it linked to bad experiences?

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All of these things help

shape our food landscape.

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The reason I wanted to run this episode

of the podcast about this topic is

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to try and reassure you really that

sometimes It's not just that you

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haven't understood a topic properly.

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So, for example, if you've got IBS, maybe

you've tried to do the low FODMAP diet.

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In this case, it's quite a tricky

diet to follow, it's a little bit

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unintuitive in terms of understanding

what to eat, but it's not necessarily

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down to how clever you are and

whether you've understood it or not.

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sometimes, it's down to our emotional

connections to food and changing

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things about the way that we eat.

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It can feel so much more difficult

than just following the instructions.

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Logically, you understand them, you

know them, and yet at the time how

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to make the change and how to make

it stick feels very difficult.

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So this week it's a bit more of

a loose format for this episode I

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suppose, just me talking really.

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But I do have a couple of tips at

the end and some things that you can

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focus on if you want to give this bit

of exploration a go in your own life.

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Once we know what habits we actually

have, or what attitudes we actually

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have towards food, we become aware

of them, then we can think about,

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okay, well, where did this come from?

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Why do I have this attitude

about the way I eat?

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And then you can start to think

about how to change that in order

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to make life easier for yourself.

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Maybe there's this sort of overriding

Need to be more healthy and yet

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the healthy food that you Desire in

your mind to be a healthy person is

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Upsetting your stomach and that can

feel really challenging It's like you

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want to be eating lots of vegetables

and lentils and whole grains But those

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are the foods that upset your tummy.

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And so there's this Cognitive dissonance,

I think it's called, where you have

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a set of beliefs or attitudes, but

your actions don't line up with them.

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So you believe that you are a healthy

person, you've always eaten healthily, and

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yet now you cannot eat in that way, and

it feels really emotionally challenging.

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And I know a lot of people I work with

have this really difficult set of beliefs

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thoughts and you go round and round in

circles just thinking I want to be this

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healthy person because you know that

you maybe have done it in the past.

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That can be quite common.

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Or the other side of a lot of people I

work with is this kind of thinking well

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I don't really want to follow a diet.

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I don't want someone

to tell me what to do.

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I don't want to be beholden

to a set of rules about food.

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And, these rules, they're not

rules that someone's just put in

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arbitrarily about what's a good diet.

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It's based on like scientific biology

around how things are digested.

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And yet when you look at it, this

is, there is a set of rules and

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that can also feel very challenging.

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If you're someone who Has always in

the past really enjoyed eating and

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been a real foodie and now you've got

to follow all these boring rules and

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all the food you love, you can't eat.

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It's very individual and it's

very personal how all these

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Associations with food come about.

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A lot of it is from our childhood and

thinking back to how we were brought up

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around food can be quite transformative.

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If you think about how babies are

fed, there's a real element of food

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being wrapped up with love as well.

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So with breastfeeding, like the

mother is literally feeding the baby

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and passing through a lot of those

oxytocin hormones, which are relaxing.

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It's like the love hormone passing

from a mother's breast into the baby.

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And there's a real sense of connection

through feeding a baby as well.

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You're holding them in your

arms, you're looking them in

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the eye, you're gazing at them.

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That is basically One of the first

experiences that we have as a newborn is

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the love and the food coming together.

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And, um, It's no wonder that we

have a complex set of emotions

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about that as well depending on your

relationship with your mother and

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general family life in the early days.

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I know I just mentioned, breastfeeding,

but obviously You can still get that

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connection through bottle feeding.

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I just meant that that's originally how

humans started being reliant on a parent.

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Obviously nowadays we do have the option

for bottle feeding and I used to teach,

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uh, before I was doing, this job I used to

teach baby massage and teach baby weaning.

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So I did a lot of work with mums

and newborns and spent a lot of

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time thinking about how we can set

up a good healthy relationship with

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food and trying to support people

to do that in their own families.

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I think the reason I'm quite passionate

about it as well is because we tend to

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eat The way that we've been brought up.

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We tend to eat what we're familiar

with, what we know about, and it's

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important, if we can, to try and

create a good healthy environment for

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children to eat from the beginning.

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So, thinking back to your childhood,

maybe just thinking about how you

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were brought up around food, were

your family mealtimes enjoyable?

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Were you forced to sit at the table

till you could finish everything there?

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Did you have to finish your broccoli

before you were allowed pudding?

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Did you actually hate

the food that you had?

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You know, what was the

vibe around the table?

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Did you have chats about

what was going on at school?

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Or did children have to eat first

and the parents ate later and you

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didn't actually have family mealtimes?

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Sometimes people ate their meals

on their laps, watching telly.

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And again, that can be a good social.

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There's no judgement in all of this,

I'm just asking you to think about

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how you were brought up, and how that

might have shaped how you feel about

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food generally and eating today.

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Maybe also you had other people in the

house who had health conditions, either

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food allergies or celiac disease, And

there could have been a sense of fear of

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food, of contamination, that we had to

be really super careful about food, and

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obviously that was to meet another family

member's health conditions, but perhaps

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that's also influenced your feelings about

food, and a cautiousness and a kind of

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health anxiety that could run beneath what

you're feeling now about your digestion.

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People who have IBS can often feel

this, what you're eating is bad for

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you and is damaging you somehow.

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And particularly for people who have small

intestinal bacterial overgrowth, there's

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this real sense that food is something.

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can make things worse, so

of course, you're going to

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have some worry about that.

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And it's like fueling your

attitude that certain foods are

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good for you or bad for you.

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And actually just even me using those

words, good for you, bad for you,

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leads me onto the next area that I

wanted to talk about, which is really

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around clean eating the thoughts that

often are influenced by social media

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making food out to be, more moralistic,

I suppose, than it actually is.

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I know I've talked about this a few

times on the podcast before, but people

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calling food toxic or inflammatories

or using words like nasties around

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food, and it's just not actually

very helpful for our attitude towards

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eating and to fueling ourselves.

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But that is a big influence as well

over our relationship with food is

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what we're consuming mentally online?

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What social media accounts are

you following that are shaping

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your attitudes towards eating?

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One of my clients a few years ago said he

really wished that food was not wrapped

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up with all social occasions because

it was putting him off socializing.

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And if you think about it, quite often

when we invite people over, we'll make

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dinner for them, or you go out for

a meal, or even just go for drinks

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and then food might be available.

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Food is often part of our celebrations.

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I have clients for whom this is a

really big part of why they want to

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work on their digestion and get better.

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Because it's affecting their social life.

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So when.

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You can't join in with everyone else.

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It does feel really difficult, and

it can feel more emotional than the

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logistics of actually bringing your

own food and getting out and eating

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it at the same time as everybody else

because it's about joining in, feeling

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part of the the social event, maybe

the family birthday party, whatever.

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If you have that gap between you

and them, and of course, there's the

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social embarrassment of explaining

it's to do with your IBS, or this

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is the reason you can't join in, you

know, it feels like you're putting

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a barrier in place when you do that.

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Sometimes, not everybody will feel

this, but I know people I work with

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feel like they're being awkward by

bringing their own food or suggesting

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that they go to certain restaurants

because it better suits them.

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And I suppose I just wanted to just

highlight it really, not to say whether

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it's good or bad or whether you should

or shouldn't feel like that, but just

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acknowledging it sometimes can almost

think, Oh, that's why I'm feeling so

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wrapped up about this food changes is

because I'm putting some pressure on,

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or I'm trying to change the social norms

within my family or my friendship groups.

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So a couple of the sort of situations

that I was going to talk about as well,

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thinking about how we grew up around food.

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I've had a client recently

that grew up in a very healthy

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household with limited chocolates

or biscuits, crisps in the house.

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They were really, really healthy and

it was always vegetables, you know,

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healthy snacks, hummus and raw carrots

and that sort of thing after school.

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And then he became a student, went off on

his own to live on his own and suddenly

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had a bit of money to feed himself.

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No parental instructions.

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And he kind of lived off

fast food, McDonald's.

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He also really didn't eat what

I would consider enough food.

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So we talked about, you know, how to

increase up his food, but the key.

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The thing I want to mention is this sense

of control, like this sense of, there's

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certain foods that you're not allowed,

just really backfired because as he got to

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his own place to live and his own money,

he just wanted to eat all the foods.

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He wasn't ever allowed growing up, it

was kind of rebelling against that.

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So for you, like, is there a sense

that you, don't want to eat lots of

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vegetables and things because you were

forced to eat so many as a child and

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you're kind of rebelling against it or

somewhere in your head it feels that

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you're conforming to other pressures

that perhaps your family put upon you

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and you, you want to be your own person.

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But eating that way doesn't

necessarily mean that you're all alone.

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following your family's guidance.

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The general healthy guidance

about eating vegetables.

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It is important.

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However, it's trying to unpick

like, where's my resistance to

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that sense of eating healthy?

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Is it coming from wanting to be

different from my parents, wanting

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to rebel, or is it something else?

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Another example of somebody I've

worked with who had parents who very

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much controlled their intake of food.

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They were just very controlling and

always would not put out enough food.

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So she ended up eating very, very fast.

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Having this thought at the back of her

head that she needed to stuff down the

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food as quickly as possible because

it was often taken away or not enough

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food was given as she was growing up.

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This can also be a problem for people

who have had food insecurity, so

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maybe you haven't had enough money

to have sufficient food on your plate

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on a regular basis, and there's that

insecurity of knowing where your next

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meal will come from, or whether you

will have a proper dinner this week.

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So, In those senses, either whether

someone is overly controlling your

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food, or whether you don't have enough

money for the food, that can also lead

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to different approaches to eating.

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Maybe every time you see food now,

you feel like you have to eat,

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you have to get it down because in

your head, you don't know where the

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next meal might be coming from and

you're trying to protect yourself.

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The opposite of that is also true.

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So I have also had a client

I worked with a few years ago

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and she had a Mediterranean.

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herritage, they had a slow, long meal

with everybody sitting around the table,

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you know, lovely sociable time and a

lot of pressure from the mother to eat.

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So constant pressure to fill

up your plate, eat more,

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come on, eat more, eat more.

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And actually then, um, In later life,

she found it quite hard to be on a diet

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because, in one way, she wanted to lose

weight, this person, she wasn't massively

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overweight, but she wanted to get into

a smaller body and, um, wanted to lose

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a bit of weight and yet she had this

voice in her head of being always told

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you need to eat more, you must finish

everything that's on your plate, have

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more portions, you know, and, and that

meal time should be a really big part

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of, you know, Family life that you must

have a long meal time with extensive

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foods and lots of different plates and

you know Everybody's eating all the time

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throughout this two hour dinner time.

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So I mentioned there that we have

sometimes this sort of Parents voice

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in our head telling us what we should

eat and actually in sort of psychology

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terms We have these three ego states.

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So these three kind of parts of ourselves.

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So one is a parent that

is telling us what to do.

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One is like an adult, which is

the rational adult following

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the logic and the facts.

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And then we also have a child,

which is more responding as

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your inner child might have.

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And I think this is quite an interesting

way to think about your food and

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your approaches to eating as well.

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So, for example, your parent voice

in your head, your, might be telling

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you, you shouldn't eat that, that's

bad for you, or, on Sundays we have

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a roast, this is just what we do.

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The adult voice might be thinking, okay,

well, I know I need to eat protein, so

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therefore, I'll eat this much chicken

for lunch and I'll have fish for dinner.

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You know, that is a sort of logical

approach to putting together your meals.

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You might think about

food in that way as well.

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And then your sort of inner child

might have either a real, like, disgust

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of certain foods that you were fed.

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And like, I can't bear to

eat that or just, I want it.

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I eat it.

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Um, so.

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It's really normal for us to have

all of these three states in our

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head all the time and sometimes

they're conflicting which can also

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feel really difficult when you've got

different voices inside your head.

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I'm obviously not talking about, you know,

real voices like schizophrenic voices

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but they are thoughts and different parts

of ourselves and once we can kind of see

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where some of these things are coming from

it can help us unlock these ability to

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change the way we eat or change the way

we respond to ourselves, even if we don't

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change the actual habits and actions.

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We might just be a bit more

gentle on ourselves knowing where

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those thoughts have come from.

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A little example of that personally for

me is that I have got a real thing about

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wasting food and or just wasting anything

in general like I, you know, really use

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up all the toothpaste and scrape it out

before we'll throw the toothpaste away.

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I don't really like wasting food and that

came definitely from how I was brought up.

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My mum's parents were, Immigrants to

this country and didn't have a lot

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of money and definitely instilled

in her a sense of do not waste.

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You know, we must make and do.

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And then that has definitely

been brought over to me as well.

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Not necessarily only about money,

but like using the Earth's resources,

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making sure we don't waste.

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As part of my eating disorder training

that I did over the last year.

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One of the activities that we

had to do was to throw away a

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piece of food that was good.

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There was nothing wrong with it.

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We had to do it as part of,

like, exploring our own sense

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of whether you waste food.

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And the reason it's important in

terms of attitudes to food is that

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If you eat everything on your plate

because you don't want to waste it,

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effectively you're kind of wasting it

into yourself, because you don't really

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need it, you don't actually want it,

but you're still eating it anyway,

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just in order for it not to be wasted.

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So, interesting, very interesting,

and I actually found that experiment

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quite difficult but it really helped

me think about, well, where did this

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come from, why did I grew up with

that sense that waste is really bad.

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And obviously like logically, we

only have limited resources in

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each family and within the world.

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So we don't want to waste loads of

stuff, but at the same time, it's

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like, what emotions is that triggering?

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Is it.

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triggering emotions that are larger

than the actual activity should warrant.

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So, if you've got to the end of

this episode and thought, oh, this

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is interesting, I think I might

like to do something about this.

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I was thinking about some specific things

that you might be able to put into place.

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In your own life to help you with this.

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One of them might be to write yourself

a little essay or journal entry

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or kind of picture, it could be a

lifeline of how you were brought up.

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brought up around food, what

was going on around all of these

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different points in your life?

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How was eating at school, for example?

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Think about it and about

whether that has influenced your

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attitude to the way you eat now.

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Also just being really mindful

about What might be coming out

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of that life story of eating?

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Maybe you want to be mindful about

eating and if you want to go back to

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episode 2 where I talk a lot about

mindful Eating that can be helpful.

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Just really focusing on the mechanics

of eating a little bit But also

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thinking about mindful shopping, you

know, are you actually buying foods

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that are gonna be right for you?

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Are you planning meals that are

So just, investing a bit of time

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in it, I suppose, which is really

tricky if you're already time poor.

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You're very busy.

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And then, I guess the other thing is,

if you're trying to make changes to

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your diet, is actually having a plan,

knowing where your, what your end goal

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is, and trying to work backwards from

that in mini steps, so little things

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to break it down into achievable steps.

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So I know that's quite high level actions

this week, and there's not anything

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necessarily specific that you should take

and do at the end of this episode, but

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it's probably worth just thinking about,

even if you don't actually do anything,

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is just have a little think about it.

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Whether these have brought up

anything for you, and whether

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you'd like to do anything about it.

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So, I'll leave it there for this week.

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Thank you very much for listening to

this episode of the Inside Knowledge.

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Better digestion for everyone.

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