Psychic ability is only part of what determines how effectively a spiritual practitioner can work with energy. Capacity, discernment, belief, energetic boundaries, and the ability to hold and direct energy all influence what a practitioner can actually do with their gifts.

In this live Psychic Gifts & Energetic Capacity Assessment, Kelle Sparta works with licensed acupuncturist Lisa Nicholson to explore how Lisa’s intuitive and energetic abilities function alongside her science-grounded professional practice. Kelle evaluates four categories of psychic ability: Sensor, Messenger, Traveler, and Energy Manipulator, examining both Lisa’s current use of each gift and what may be limiting her development.

The conversation also explores energetic capacity as something that can expand over time. Kelle explains how energetic “leaks,” belief, intention, and confidence affect the amount of energy a practitioner can hold and direct—and why someone’s capacity score can actually decrease after significant growth because their potential has expanded.

For practitioners who balance analytical thinking with intuitive perception, Lisa’s experience offers an especially useful example of integrating spiritual abilities without abandoning professional grounding.

What You’ll Learn

• The four categories of psychic ability: Sensor, Messenger, Traveler, and Energy Manipulator
• How psychic gifts differ from energetic capacity
• Why energetic capacity can continue expanding as you develop
• How energetic leaks affect your ability to hold and direct energy
• Why belief and other people’s judgment can limit energetic work
• How spirit guides and situational spiritual support may be experienced
• How analytical and intuitive ways of knowing can coexist
• Why developing gifts responsibly requires practice, discernment, and greater capacity

References Mentioned

Psychic Gifts & Energetic Capacity Assessment; Sensor; Messenger; Traveler; Energy Manipulator; empathic sensing; mediumship; spirit guides; remote viewing; dream walking; Akashic Records; aura reading; chakras; energetic shields; manifestation; acupuncture; Chinese medicine; energy work; energetic capacity; intention; belief.

Resources Mentioned

Lisa Nicholson — Balboa Park Holistic Wellness Center

https://balboaparkholisticwellnesscenter.com

Lisa works as a licensed acupuncturist in San Diego and discusses supporting breast cancer patients through acupuncture, Chinese medicine, nutrition, and treatment-plan support.

Instagram: @acupuncturegeek

 Welcome back to Spirit Sherpa, where spiritual practitioners learn to master their gifts, grow their businesses, and change lives. I'm your host, Kelle Sparta, transformational shaman and spiritual business coach. Uh, please remember to like, subscribe, and share this podcast. And today we are going to be doing a, uh, psychic gifts and energetic capacity assessment reading.

Now, what is that? That is where I go into someone's energy field and I read their energy field and tell them what psychic gifts they have, what percentage of those gifts they're using, and what stands between them and using 100% of those gifts. And so today Lisa Nicholson is joining us on the call for her reading, and Lisa is one of my clients, and so welcome to the call, Lisa.

I'm excited to have you here. Thanks, Kelle. I'm excited to be here. So tell everybody briefly what you do so that they have a sense of where you're coming at this from. So I am a licensed acupuncturist, and I work predominantly with breast cancer patients in my practice. And we provide acupuncture, of course, Chinese medicine, um, herbs, some nutrition coaching.

And one of the other things that I do with my breast cancer patients is I help them to make sure that they really understand and are buying into their doctor's treatment plans for them, and then provide whatever support they need along the way as they go through that treatment. Great. And you are located in...?

San Diego. Do you work with people from outside of the San Diego area? In the context of doing cancer discovery calls and talking through treatment plans and getting comfortable with what it is that is being recommended, that I can do remotely. Acupuncture is really hands-on. Okay. And I have some licensing restrictions in terms of what I can do with herbal consults with people who are outside of California, but I do offer some telemedicine for people that are within the state as well.

Okay, great. All right. So and you'll... You can find more about Lisa in the show notes if you wanna find out where she is and, and look her up for information. So okay. So we're gonna start off with this psychic gifts assessment, and, uh, we're gonna be covering four different categories of psychic abilities.

We're gonna cover sensor, which is what most people think of as empath, but you're sensing the energy. Messenger, which is communicating with the other side, your guides, uh, mediumship, things like that. Uh, traveler, which is things like remote viewing, dream walking, uh, going to the Akashic, things like that.

And then energy manipulator, which is also, like, magician manifestor energy, right? So we're gonna do- Okay ... those four categories of the work. What I'm going to do is I'm gonna send a little bit of my energy out to you, and I'm gonna ask you to let me in through your shields. Please do not take your shields down, just, you know, say, "It's okay for Kelle to come in."

And I'm gonna come into your field to read your aura, to read your chakras, and to read any blocks and things that are in the way. And, uh, then I will come up with this assessment for you. Each, each category will get a score, one to 10, of what you're doing, uh, versus your capacity. And, um, and then I'll talk to you about what's between you and reaching full capacity on those things.

Okay? Any questions before we get started? Not at this point. Okay, fantastic. Then do I have permission to enter your energy field for the purposes of this reading? You do. Okay. Give me one second. I'll be right there. Fair warning, I've been told I tickle or, um, make you hot or flushed. So just- ... people tell me that they feel me, so fair warning.

So do you have a council that you speak with?

Indirect. Well, kind of Yeah, 'cause I see a council as I'm coming up to your aura. There's like a group of, of entities and people that are, uh, surrounding you, and they feel like they're like your, your board of directors sort of thing. Your ... But it's your council, right? It's your, like, your group of, of guides or, you know...

It, it's not, they're not e- exactly your guides. They are a council that is there to serve and support you and to provide you with guidance, right? I mean, they're not, not your typical spirit guides. They're, they're here for that specific purpose. So it, it, I... How... Is, is this for... Hold on, let me just find out more information

Okay, so they're seeing you through this next initiation point. That's why they're there. Ooh. So they're not like your guides that are with you for your whole life. They're, they're situational. Ooh. Does that sound familiar? There, there are definitely ... I have an, an ability to sense that, uh, those guides are there, but I don't necessarily have the ability to communicate with them.

Okay. And so it's not always ... Like, I know that there are guides there, but it's not always clear what they're there for, and I notice their absence more than their presence, if that makes sense. Yeah. I, I'm not surprised, 'cause they're in a circle around you. So it, it's, it's not meant to be a protective circle, but it is when they're there.

So- Mm-hmm ... um, yeah, it's, it's an interesting dynamic. Um, they're ... Do you ever watch the TV show Fringe? Yes. They're like the observers. Mm-hmm So they're watching you walk through this next stage. And, and every now and again, September will come out and be like, "Ah, here, here's a little help." Right? You know, it's, it's that sort of thing.

Um, one of them will just be like, tweak, and give you a little, little thing in the right direction. But mostly they're just watching. Um, yeah. It's interesting. Yeah. One in particular has been standing in a corner of one of my treatment rooms for years. Okay. And I... Every once in a while I'll reach out and say, "Could I use a little bit of your energy?"

And they'll oblige. Okay. But, um- Yeah, I mean, they're friendly ... sometimes a little... Yes. Yeah. They're friendly, they're just not attached to helping. They're mostly observing. You know, if you ask, they'll help, but n- their, their purpose isn't specifically to come and help you. Their purpose is to watch this evolution for you.

So It is what it is. So, okay. Let, I'm gonna come into your aura now. I just needed to address what I was seeing. And give me one second, I'll be in your aura

Okei.

Okay, so the first thing I'm gonna check is your sensor ability to entrain. So entrainment is the process of, uh, connecting with someone else and harmony- harmonizing your energy. So if you've ever been with someone where you're finishing each other's sentences because you're just on that, you know, you're just connected on that level- Mm-hmm

that's full entrainment. Okay? Um- Mm-hmm ... and sensors work through the act of entrainment. So What I'm gonna test right now is your ability to entrain and your willingness to entrain

Interesting So you did boundaries for empaths, huh? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, that, well, I mean, I've, I have been working very hard on boundaries for empaths through my own exploration. I've never had formal training, so to speak. Oh, okay. 'Cause you feel like you did the Boundaries for Empaths program on my website.

That's the free class that's on the website. So, um, the, uh, your energy field is well contained, and that is unusual for somebody with sensor abilities. They usually are, like, flooding the room everywhere. Um, the, uh, you know, it's definitely an evolved skill for a sensor and-

However

What I'm feeling is that you have, uh, you've pulled in enough that you're not actually connecting and entraining anymore And so you're going to lose that sense that you get when you're, when you're entrained where you can feel the other person and you can feel where they're going and you can feel what's going on with them and, and, um, and where you're harmonized with them, right?

Um, I... What I'm getting is... So I'm familiar with the, the, um, energy meridian system in, in, you know, acupuncture and acupressure and, um, Chinese medicine. And what I'm getting is that you're using your sight to see the energy in the, in the chi system, right? Mm-hmm. In the meridians. But you're not entraining with the person to feel what's going on in there.

So you're feeling the, the needle and where it's hitting, and you're feeling the energy through your fingers of that, but you're not using your empath abilities to do that. You're using other abilities to do that. Hmm. So, uh, your sensor abilities because you've been working so hard on the boundary piece and you've pulled back so hard, the sensor abilities are, uh, mm, muffled.

They're shut down because you're not allowing yourself to connect on that level anymore And so the invitation would be, because you were, you were at, like, an 8 out of 10 before you started all this boundary work, and it's important to have the boundary work in place. It's super important to have your boundary work.

And you, you've, you've done sort of what the normal thing is, is, like, I'm way over here and I'm gonna learn how to, how to balance, and then you go way over on the other side, and then, you know, you're ... So you're over on the other side of too, too pulled back, and now the, the invitation- Mm-hmm ... is to come to, to balance, right?

Where you can- Got it ... you can connect in, you can taste someone's energy without having to mesh energy with them. You can ... And, and if you wanna learn that, that's on the boundaries for empaths on the website. It's, uh- Oh ... you know, kellesparta.com, right? If you go there, it'll tell you exactly how to do all of this, and it's free.

Oh, okay. So just go sign up for it. Um, but the, uh, the energy is, is down at, like, a two, and the only reason it's even at a two is because you're using it just to t- to adjust the needles, right . That's why. Mm. You're just doing it with your fingers. Um, so, you know, I would really look at how do you choose where you're mixing your energy, how do you choose how you read the room, how do you choose to use those things?

Because sensor abilities are responsible for things like telepathy and the claires and, you know, um, the ... there's just a l- whole bunch of different aspects that they're responsible for. And then, you know, the ability to read somebody else's energy, which is super helpful. You do that a little bit too. If somebody comes in agitated, you know, and you're reading their energy- Oh, yeah

at that point. Um, but, uh, you're not using it to the fullest extent that it could be used, right? So, um, you know, this is one of those things where, um, for instance, I had ... I, I was in an event that was 600 people, and it was pouring rain, and somebody was desperate to s- to find their boyfriend and, and the ... it, it's a multi-acre site with 600 people on it.

And she's like, "Where is he?" And I'm like, "I don't know." You know, like ... And then she was like, "I have to find him." And so I just, I looked for his energy field. I looked for his energy signature, you know, 'cause everybody's got a unique one, and I knew his 'cause I knew him. And, and I was like, "Oh, he's there." And she's like, "Did he tell you he's going there?"

I'm like, "No, you asked me where he is. That's where he is." And she was just like, "Uh, well, it's raining, and if you don't know for sure." I'm like, "I don't care." I'm like, "I've wandered off." Right. And of course, that's where he was, right? Because, you know, I could feel him on the land. So that's another sensor ability, is being able to do stuff like that and being able to locate people based on their energy signature.

Being able to read the energy signature of a photo, things like that, right? Um- Mm-hmm ... yeah, all of those things. Okay. So right now you're at a 2 out of 10 on this, and, you know, just coming into balance is gonna be the difference. So once you start to find your balance, you're gonna wobble back and forth between, like, a 5 and an 8 for a while until you figure out your balancing point.

Mm-hmm. And then, then it'll just be practice getting it at a place that you want it to be. Okay? Okay. And that's for both of those. Your, your... For reading other people's energy, when you choose to read it, you're at, like, a 6 right now. Um, when you don't choose to read it and they're not projecting it all over you, uh, which a lot of people do - Oh, yes, they do

right? Yeah. Um, then you're probably at, like, a 4, okay? Because, you know, you're distracted and doing other things, and you're not thinking about it, right? So, uh, because you're so boundaried up, you're not... It's not in... It's not knocking at your door the way that it used to. Make sense? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It does.

Yeah. Yeah. Or- And I've been knocked over by people's energies to the point where I've been taken out for a couple of days- Ooh ... which is part of why I have worked so hard on maintaining, building and maintaining those boundaries. Yeah. Because when one person takes me out like that, then I can't be present for the next person who's sitting in front of me.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, and that's the other reason why it's super important to have some wards and some shields and some things that protect you, um, because yeah, you're right. If you don't have any of that and your boundaries aren't so great, then the combination of those things will overpower. And even if you have shields up, if your boundaries are terrible and you've got everybody inside your energy field because your boundaries are at the edges of the room, your shields aren't gonna do any good.

They're not gonna do any good at all 'cause they're already inside them, right? So yeah, all of these things are reasons why we, we learn how to do these things and learn how to manage our energy field. So your boundaries are looking freaking good, um, and now you can sort of relax them a bit, right? Got it.

Yeah. Okay. So messenger. Let's come into the messenger area. So the messenger is being able to talk to your guides and so on. And so the first thing I'm gonna check is access to your guides. Well, I'm gonna check the energy flow first. Give me a second.

Okay, energy flow looks good. Talking to guides

That's a little challenged. Uh So

It almost feels like you don't quite believe that they're there

It's a- There, there might be some of that ... yeah. So I'm gonna give you something that my friend Kathy tells people, which I think is brilliant. You do not have to believe, you just have to suspend your disbelief. Okay? Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So just talk to them as if they are there, and, you know, see what happens Just buy in like you would buy into a movie, right?

Hmm. Mm-hmm. And, you know, don't treat the whole thing as an experiment because that sets up an weird energy, but just say, "I'm going to b- I'm going to choose to believe that this is real until such time as is proven to me that it's not." Hmm. Okay. Because right now you're choosing to not believe or maybe believe, and it's like, well, you know, let's just

You- you're gonna maintain your rational self and say, you know, if this isn't true, it's gonna become apparent. And so I'm just gonna buy in until it becomes apparent or it doesn't become apparent that it's not, right? So yeah. Make sense? It, it does, and it's, it's bringing up a curious experience that I had.

Okay. Say more. For, for a while I was doing, um, five rhythms dance. Mm-hmm. And on the first time that I was doing this and got into the chaos rhythm Somebody came and took over my body Mm. And I spent the next however much time it was dancing her dance that she was showing me through my body. Okay. And we have had on and off conversations since, but the only way I actually can access her is through that rhythm and that dance.

And the experience freaked me out a little, to say the least. Yeah. 'Cause, um, no, we can have e- we can have energetic encounters, but no, you can't take over my body. That's not okay. Yeah. And not out of the blue like that. Yeah. And- Usually they call that being ridden. Yeah. Yeah. So we've had some conversations.

And so, like, I- I've ha- I've had to suspend disbelief because that was way too real and way too creepy, and there was a part of me that was like, "Am I getting my body back?" Right, which is something you have to worry about with things like that. Did they not put any protections up on the space? Um, if they did, I

It was not within my awareness. Let's put it that way. Okay. Yeah. It sounds like they didn't, and so, you know, they drew in something that was chaos oriented, and that's how- Well- ... you know, it came through. So what I would say is ... So the fourth episode of this podcast v- back in the very beginning has me setting a container, a safe container for you, um, for anybody who listens.

And what I would s- highly suggest is that you set the container, and then you set an intention. Once the container is open, you set an intention that only things that are positive and wanting your best, your highest and best good can make it through in- to inside the circle. Yeah. And then do the chaos dance and see if it makes it through the circle If she makes it through the circle, then fine, continue talking to her.

If she doesn't, if she's angry and she's on the outside of the circle and she can't get in, she is not looking out for your best interests and you need to sever ties with her. Hmm. Yeah, she's very much attached to the guide that stands in the corner in my clinic. Hmm. Yeah, that's- Um- That's interesting.

Yeah. They've, they've been a pair for a very, very long time, and through time their relationship has changed, at sometimes she's been a daughter, at sometimes a mother, at sometimes a lover. Mm-hmm. She's been in all of those roles. The other guide is male. And my sense is that both of these are thousands of years old.

Mm-hmm. Oh, absolutely. And I'm not sure where they come from. Everything with the past realms is, is millennia old. It's just, it's, it's ancient. It's, it's been around since the beginning of time, so yeah. Yeah. 'Cause, you know, I've been sitting with this. This happened maybe three years ago, and I've been just kind of sitting with the process.

I have a couple of people who come into my clinic who are able to communicate with these beings, and they generally come back with, you know, "Well, they've got a message for you." And it's generally stuff I need to hear- Mm-hmm ... and positive. Like, my sense is that they're, they're observing and they're kind of looking out for my best interest.

But they aren't able to, for whatever reason, to communicate with me directly. Well, you're, you're not open to it right now, so I'm not surprised. Mm-hmm. Okay. You're, you're already with your own guides going, "Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know." So, you know, the energy flow is fine. You can get there, but you get partway there and you go, "Yeah, these guys really, really, I don't know."

Right? And it, it just sort of flattens out and, and fizzles out, right? Um, so, you know, your energy flow would put you at a seven or an eight out of 10 if you were actually, you know, suspending your disbelief and moving through your, your I don't know energy to get to them. But right now you're at, like, zero to two depending on the day and how, how much you're thinking about I don't know, um, in terms of being able to communicate with them, and that becomes a problem for you because you're not able to connect with them.

And so I'm gonna check on the higher self connection to-

Okay, that connection feels really solid. That connection feels like, um, yeah, you're, you're between a nine and a 10 depending on the day. That to- and I think that the reason why it is a better connection for you is because it doesn't feel woo woo. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, to be... I've spent so much of my career trying to prove that what I do is real- Right

and evidence-based and not in the woo, and yet there's a part of me that is very aware that my ability to sense what's going on with somebody is outside of what one would expect without the woo. Right. Yes. So your, your connection to your higher self is really good because it doesn't get, it doesn't fall into the, is this too woo trap, right?

So- Mm-hmm ... that's, that's gonna be the thing for you. So I'm gonna check your ability to channel, but I'm pretty sure you got a good one given the fact that you got ridden, because we don't get ridden unless we can channel. So let me, uh, let me check on this Yeah, okay. So you, you inherently put up a nope on your crown chakra that says, "You will not be traveling through me at all, ever.

No, this is a go away, go away now. We're not t- even talking about it" energy. Um, and, um, you know, given your respo- given what happened, I'm not surprised. Um, and I would not recommend taking this down until you learn a lot more about how to manage your energy and how to channel safely. Mm-hmm. Uh, but if you did choose to do this later when you learn how to do those things well, uh, I would say that you would be at an eight or a nine just getting started.

You're just- Ooh ... you've got a lot of skill set in this. Uh, and it's just a matter of learning how to use it. So... And that's a choice, too. I mean, Cathy is, "No, I'm never gonna, gonna channel because it... Channeling even ... Channeling is possession with permission," right? And that's what it is. Uh-huh. And s- and she's like, "Never gonna let somebody possess me."

And I'm like, I channel all the time, so it doesn't bother me. But I also know that I can kick the things out if I choose to, and I also have protections up on my house that don't let randos in and, you know, things like that. So I got shields up- Mm-hmm ... and whatever. So if they don't have permission, they're g- not coming through.

But, um, you know, it's, it's, it's a personal choice as to whether or not you wanna channel. There's absolutely no requirement to, but it's, it's a, it's an option for you. Okay? Mm-hmm. All right. So, uh, as far as translating, so this would be like mediumship and talking to ascended masters, talking to the, the council, you know, talking to the entity from the chaos realms.

Um-

I'm just checking in on this. There's

So there is a lot of people knocking at your door. You know, they're like- Yes, there, there are ... right? They're like, "Hello. Hello. Anybody home? Hello. Hello." You know, they're not doing I am Henry VIII, I am, but, you know, they are... Sorry, ghost reference. Anyway, uh, they're not doing that, but they are in fact going, "Anybody home?

Anybody home? Hello. Hello," because they got things to say. Uh, and a l- you know, yes, it is the council and, and it is that entity too, but it's also other beings. I feel like there's...

So one of the things that happens as you go through an, an initiation phase is that you will often get a, a spirit teacher who will download lessons to you in your sleep. Mm. And you are, uh, you've got two of them that have been waiting for a while to do this with you, and you are like, "No, we're not talking.

Mm-mm." And so, uh, again, you're, you're, you're boundaried up, right? Um, and, and you're not letting in that information, so you're not getting the psychic downloads that can happen and can provide you with, uh, energetic upleveling. And so, uh, again, it's a choice if you don't want to be impacted by things you're not talking to actively and, you know, know what's happening and given permission to immediately and that, you know, consciously, that's entirely your choice, right?

Um, if you want the downloads, then you, you're gonna need to open up the, the, uh, lines of communication. And, and how would one open up those lines of communication? Well, so, you know, for the, for the teachers that I'm talking about that are lined up, you can say, you know ... And I would be very careful to be clear about your communication on this.

You can say, "One of you may work with me while I sleep tonight." And it is the one who has been waiting the longest or the one who needs to have their stuff downloaded the, the m- which one, whichever one is most necessary right now. But one at a time. Ooh. And it's not carte blanche to do it all the time because when you get tired and you, you are, uh, sleeping a lot but you're not waking up rested, it is oftentimes because they're doing massive downloads in your sleep.

And so you need to ask for time off periodically, right? So with two p- two people waiting to give you, uh, downloads, I would definitely set boundaries on that and say- Ooh ... "One at a time, and we'll do it every other night until you have finished your downloads or until we need to switch to the other person because they became more timely.

But only ever one at a time and every other night until we're complete. And then nobody else gets to come until they ask permission," right? That sort of thing. So that will help to, uh, reinforce your own need for control over that process, uh, and at the same time allow them to do their work. Okay. Okay? All right.

So any other questions about messenger before we move on to traveler? No. Let's, let's move on. Okay, here we go.

Okay, so I'm gonna check your ability to travel through your third eye

Okay, the energy goes out just fine. So typically the, you know, going out through your third eye to get information is going to the Akashic records

You don't quite get there. You get out of your third eye, but you do not, you do not land at the Akashic records. And I think part of it's because you don't feel like you have a definition, so you're not sure how to interface with it. Um, even if you- Yeah, I don't even know what an Akashic- ... want to Yeah, I don't know what an Akashic record is.

Yeah. I keep seeing that referenced, but I don't know anything about that. So are you familiar with the concept of the eternal moment of now? Not really. Okay. So the eternal moment of now is the idea that, uh, time and space do not actually exist. They are illusions. And so everything that ever could happen, ever did happen, ever will happen, and anything that's happening right now is all happening right now.

It's all happening simultaneously in, in a non-physical reality, that it's all happening in the energetic field. And that we interpret that through our lens of time and space because our brains, you know, our, our, our meat suit needs to exist within the, the time-space continuum, right? And so, uh, or at least our belief in the meat suit does, right?

Uh, so you know, the meat suit doesn't actually exist either, so let's talk about how much space there is between the atoms. Anyway, but the, the upshot is that everything is happening all at once, and, uh, that is the Akashic record, is being able to reach into that energetic field of all that is and be able to pull out a piece of information, right?

Hmm. And because time doesn't exist, you could grab it from the Library at Alexandria. You could grab it from, you know, wherever. But you don't even have to think about that. You just go and grab the information you need because it exists within the field, and it's not about time and place because time and place are not real.

Hmm. Okay? Okay. So energetically, to do that, you send energy out through your third eye, and you go and grab the information, and you bring it back, right? Yours gets out a little bit and then goes, "No, I'm not really sure what to do with that," and comes home, right? And so, you know, part of this is a lack of definition, a lack of understanding of it, and knowing what to do and...

or intention, right? Because a lot of times we send out the, the, in, the energy not even knowing what we're sending it out for. And when you don't have an intention attached to it, it does peter out after a while and just, you know, fall back because it didn't have an intention to follow. Okay? Okay. So not that you have a block on this, it's that you've just not used it.

And so you are sending the energy out, you're just not sending it all the way out, so it's not at a zero. It's, it's kind of at, like, a three just because it's been going, "Oh, look, I can do this. Ooh, look, I can do this. I don't know what to do with it, but I tried it." You know? It's, it's that sort of energy.

Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, let me check the receiver. Ooh, receiver is... Damn. Okay. Oof. Okay. Okay, we're gonna push that back. Okay. When you open to get information, do you just get overwhelmed with the flood of information? Because that's what I got- Yes ... the minute... Yeah. Okay. That's what's hap- Yeah. And that's hence the boundaries.

Yes. It's coming in way too freaking fast. And so, um, you, you don't need to set up full boundaries on this. You just need a filter on your third eye. And so- Oh ... you know, what you need to do is imagine putting a filter on it that slows it down. It just slows the energy flow. It still lets it in, but it makes it go slower so that you can understand and comprehend what's being told to you.

And so, you know... Oh. Oh, that's interesting. Okay. So they're telling me that you were, uh, you were embodi- the last embodiment that you had was on another planet where the brain operated very differently, and that there was... That you were used to receiving information at this speed because your brain could process it in that body.

But this brain does not do that. And so you- No, it does not. No, it does not. So, and so you just have to adjust the energy flow. You know, you just dial it down, right? Yeah. So that it slows down so you can get the information in a way that your brain can actually process. Okay? Mm-hmm. All right. Uh, so you're way open.

You're, you're at, like, a 15 out of 10 right now because it's going way too freaking fast. When you dial it down, you'll be at a 10 out of 10, which is exactly where you should be. Um, and it can... that it won't be running you over when it comes in. Okay? All right. Yep So let's look at your ability to travel through your third eye, which is, um, you know, remote viewing and things like that, dream walking, things like that

Oh, okei. So

Yeah. Um, there's no permission to do this, right? You, your energy was going out just fine with the readings, and so there's no block to it, but, you know, the idea of leaving your c- of your consciousness leaving your body, not your soul, that's astral projection, we don't do that, but your consciousness leaving your body is, uh, i- it's kind of scary, right?

And i- it's... No, it's terrifying, and, and it is one of those things where it's like, "Eh, I don't know if I wanna do this. Ah, this is a lot. Do I have to jump out of a perfectly good airplane," right? You know, it's that sort of thing, right? Yeah. It's that. Yeah. And the answer is no, you don't have to jump out of a perfectly good airplane.

You can, you can ride the plane down and it'll be fine. Uh, but, uh, the ability to travel through your third eye is directly being infringed upon by your fear of doing it. And right now it just fogs over and s- does not allow. So, you know, if you wanted to develop it, you could. It's not blocked. It's only inhibited by fear.

Hmm. Okay? Okay. So right now you're at a zero out of 10 because you're like, "Uh-uh, mama, don't do that. We're gonna ride the plane down." Right? Yeah. Okay. Um, all right. I wanna talk to you about the probability lines. This will be another thing that you will not be doing, uh, because it... You have to leave through your consciousness.

You have to go out to see the probability lines. So until you give yourself permission, this is gonna be another one that's gonna be impacted the same way. But probability lines are gonna be impacted. Walking the future and the past will be impacted because of the same fear. Now I feel like- Feel like your fear of the probability lines is actually less.

So you, I can feel like you would give yourself permission to be at about a four on this to be able to see the, the probability lines and how they work. In terms of dropping into each probability line forward and back, um, which is where precognition and retrocognition come into play, uh, is I would say that those are Yeah, the precognition you're at kind of a five, the retrocognition you're at an eight.

Um, and so what that means is that you are much more comfortable following the line of someone's soul back through their past lives and things like that than you are t- trying to believe that you can drop into the, the future and know what's gonna happen, uh, based on- Mm ... whatever choice you make or they make.

Right? Um, and so again, that's a suspend your disbelief piece. Mm. Right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. So let's move into energy manipulator, magician, manifestor energy. Okay? Uh, I'm gonna pressure test your container, so don't panic. I'm gonna, like, fill you up with energy and, and see where the edges are. Uh, I promise not to overfill.

Okay? So just give me a second.

Okay All right. So you have a few leaks in your energetic container. Um, and these are emotional spaces for you that where people can manipulate you. Mm. So it's, it's stories through which people manipulate you on a semi-regular basis. And so these are... They're, they're pinhole leaks, so they're not impacting you a lot, but they are definitely impacting you.

They're, they're, they're keeping you from having a full solid container. Okay? Um, and so, you know, that would be something to take a look at, is look at the emotional spaces where, you know, you get triggered, you get... You feel guilty, you feel responsible for somebody, you feel overwhelmed, you feel, um, you know, uh, motherly towards or, you know, whatever.

Where you're taking on, uh... Where, where you're, you're, like, feel like people can guilt you into things, and things like that. You know, that sort of energy. So take a look at those and see where they are actually being, uh, able to manipulate you into doing things you would not normally do. Um- Mm ... and that's where your energy leaks are.

Okay? Mm-hmm. All right. So in here, your capacity test. So the capacity is one of the few things that changes. Uh, everything else is, is, you know, it's one to 10, and, and wherever you are in it is wherever you are in it. But your capacity will a- the, what 10 represents over time will be different. Mm. Because as you grow your capacity, your number 10 on your scale becomes different, right?

Okay. Yeah, so your scale changes, right? So I wanna be clear that I'm gonna tell you what your capacity is out of 10 where you are right now, but that the capacity- Mm-hmm ... has the ability to grow. Got it. Okay? All right. So you could have a reading today and get a, a, a 9 out of 10 or a 10 out of 10, and then come back a year and a half from now and have a reading, and I could say you're at a 6 out of 10.

And that's because your capacity grew. Capacity grew. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So that sort of thing. Okay. So, um-

Yeah, you're about an eight and a half out of 10, uh, and that's because you're, you've got those leaks. That's the only thing that's in the way. Mm-hmm. Okay? Mm-hmm. 'Cause it's losing pressure. Yeah Now why do we need capacity? Capacity is the energy that you hold when you're running energy for, for a purpose, right?

So whether you're manifesting, whether you're doing healing work, whether you're, you know, affecting chi in, in meridians, you know, whatever it is that you're doing with your energy, y- your capacity determines how much energy you can hold and run. Okay? Mm-hmm. So all right. So let me check your will center and your belief

Okay. Will center is super solid. So the will is the ability to set an intention and make it clear and solid, and, uh, put the energy behind it, right? Um- Whoa ... belief, so the belief that you can do energy work is wobbly. So if we talk about it in terms of acupuncture, it's super solid. It's, it is impacted by other people's expectations.

You do have... You're, you're at an 8 out of 10 on this because there's a, well, other people don't believe in it and, you know, uh, and it's not, uh, it's not that you're buying into their disbelief, it's that you're owning their judgment of you through that disbelief. Mm. There's a, there's a piece in there that is holding back your full capacity on the belief thing for your acupuncture.

Okay? Um, now when it comes to doing other energetic work, that's where you get super wobbly because again, too woo. Right? Mm-hmm. And so we're hitting the too woo button, and so the too woo sort of falls down to a five or six on the scale. So depending on the thing that you're addressing, if, you know, and how woo it feels, right?

Mm-hmm. Um, so that's, that's coming into play with that. And so... All right, let me check your ability to structure and focus.

Okay. You got structure and focus down. You're doing well with those. Um, so the creation of any energetic pattern is the ability to structure what you want and to focus the intent, right? Mm-hmm. And to stay, stay conscious and focused on it for long periods of time, and not have it go, "La, la, la, la, la.

Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel." Right? So- Mm-hmm ... uh, you're, you're doing really well with both of those. So there's a, a... You're at 8 out of 10 on both of them, so long as you're not being, you know, dogged by, you know, distractions, right? Mm-hmm. Um, nobody survives the dogging of distractions for very long. It's just a thing.

And you have more distractions- Yeah ... than most, so yeah. It's not... I don't feel like you've got the mind on overdrive worry thing that's kicking in all the time, but I do feel like you have the, I feel like I'm being, you know, death by a thousand paper cuts thing that happens to you. Yeah, and pulled in a thousand directions.

Right. Like, where, where to... Like, the ability to focus is there, but where- Yeah ... is the most important thing to focus when I've got 50 things that are- Right ... demanding immediate focus. Right. Exactly, and that's what I'm feeling here. So that's why you're at an 8 out of 10 instead of 10 out of 10. You have the skill set to be 10 out of 10 on both of them, but the, the distractions are the things that are causing you to be 8 out of 10 on these.

Okay? Yeah. Once you're, once you're locked in, you're golden. But the locking in is the challenge. Okay? Mm-hmm. All right. And then, um-

Checking on power piece

Okay. Yeah, this one is, is pretty, um

Um, what's the right word? It's inactive. So this is a... I'm checking in on your, your ability to own your power- Mm ... and your willingness to buy into your power, and you're just sort of going, "Eh, nah, meh" Don't know if I wanna go there. Not sure. Yeah, exactly. It's like- Yeah ... "Mm, yeah, let's just leave it here," you know?

It's, "Nah, nah, nah, nah," right? And so I don't feel like there's a fear... Well, no, I lied. There is a fear piece. So there is a fear piece in there. Um, but it's, it's, um- It's less about the fear piece and more... I mean, the fear piece is there of, you know, I don't know what I'm getting into and, and it's the fear of the unknown in that scenario.

But it's- Mm ... it's less about the fear, and it's more about, um, do I really wanna go here? I think I'm fine where I am. You know, I don't, I don't need to push. I've got enough on my plate. There, it's, it's a, it's a resistance, but it's a logic resistance to moving into your power. It's a rationale, right? It's a rationalization- Mm

of I don't need to do this, do I? Right? Look at all the things I have to do and- The brain frame, the brain frame ... yeah. And, and look at all the directions I'm going in and all the things I have to do, and I just don't have time for this, right? It's, and it's one of the reasons why you're keeping yourself so busy.

Mm. Okay? You talked about you're not sure which thing to do next. The, that's because you have too many things you've committed to and too many directions you're trying to go in. And instead of focusing and, and giving yourse- yourself a sane path to do that, you're going, "No, I can do it all at once. Look at me go.

Woo." And this is your way of not, of not dealing with y- the power piece. It's like, "Oh, I'm too busy. I can't possibly..." Right? And so that's the energy that's in there. And that is actually, for you, 'cause I know you're stepping into a teaching role, a leadership role, and more significantly. I mean, you've been doing it, but more significantly, right?

And the, that is gonna be a problem in trying to stand in that role because you have to own your power to stand in leadership. Mm. And so that's gonna be a limiting factor for you. Mm-hmm. Okay? Um, okay, so you, you're, you're really at 0 out of 10 here because you just don't wanna. There's no block. You're just like, "Uh-uh.

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. I'm gonna close my eyes and, and la, and plug my ears and go la, la, la, and, and hopefully nobody will tell me I have to be here," right? That sort of energy. Yeah. Okay. Let me check root chakra here. Check your energy flow.

Okay, so root chakra is significantly slower than crown chakra flow. Ooh. Um, so I would, I would do the tree meditation, um, and I'll send you that after the call, but it's on YouTube. Um, but I would do the tree meditation that's, that's up on YouTube on my YouTube channel. Um, because that way you'll, you'll start to balance the flow.

I mean, the flow is- Mm ... making a full circuit. It's not a problem, it's just sluggish compared to the, the other flow. And doing the tree meditation will actually help open up the, the crown chakra flow at a wider scale too, which will help to grow that capacity. Okay? Mm-hmm. So, uh, that's, that's working. Um, you're at probably a 4 on this energy flow thing, right?

Whereas your crown chakra's like a 6 for energy flow. Mm. Okay? Um, so I'm gonna check the feminine here. Give me a second.

Okay. So the feminine energy is about your embodiment. And

There isn't a connection to the feminine in this energy. And there's a... And, and I know that you feel like you're connected to your body, but there's an inherent way in which you are not addressing it, that, that... And this, this goes back to the, you know, doing too much thing. Um, it's like you dissociate from your body so that you can do all the things that you do.

And there's a pattern of, you know, when you, when you edge up on burnout and you start to feel, like, wobbly, and your energy starts to feel like you've got ants crawling on your skin, and you're like, "Oh. Oh, I'm tired. I should probably take some downtime. I should get a massage. I should, you know, go out to eat.

I should, you know, take some downtime. I should..." Whatever. That is the... That is not actually self-care. That is self-placation. And so self-placation is looking at your, your inner child who's exhausted and tired and crying and having a temper tantrum meltdown because they really needed a nap six hours ago, and saying, "Here, have a sucker.

If you, if you've... I'll, I'll give you a lollipop if you'll shut up." Right? And that lollipop is the massage or the, you know, somebody else doing a treatment for you or, you know, whatever. That's the lollipop you're sticking in the mouth of the t- the two-year-old having a meltdown, right? Um, we need to work on, hey, let's give the two-year-old enough sleep.

Let's give them naps. Let's get them good food. Let's take care of them. Let's make sure that we address the issues before they go into meltdown mode, right? And, and by that I mean you, right? Not... You're the two-year-old is your inner self, right? Um, and so that's the piece where the embodiment is failing for you, is that you're, you're overdoing and a- abdicating or, you know, not abdicating, but, um, pulling back.

You're dissociating from your body when you do it, until your body just screams and says, "Fall down," right? Um, and so that's the piece that you need to pay attention to. Okay? Mm. Um, we did the energy access. Let me talk about healing abilities.

Yeah. So you're at a 10 out of 10, occasionally an 11 out of 10 for your healing abilities. And that's because you are, um... That's interesting. Why is that? I did that earlier and it, it didn't... Oh, it was the, it was the sensor piece that I did. Okay, this is different. Um, so yeah, this is the energy that you're using when you're doing your sessions.

Um, and when, uh, okay. So when you're getting into the flow you are, like, wide open and everything's working. Mm-hmm. When you are thinking about what you're doing and considering whether or not there's energetics associated with it, that's when you pull back, and you're back at that eight and a half that we talked about before.

Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. So when you stop worrying about it, you're rocking and rolling. But you, you think about it a lot. So it's like, "Well, am I doing this? Am I doing that? I don't know." You know? That sort of thing. Mm-hmm. Make sense? Okay. Yeah, it does. And I kind of joke with my patients that if I can just shut off my brain I do better work.

Yes, you do. I can tell you definitively. So, yes. But they kind of laugh at me 'cause they want my brain intact, you know, as I'm working with them. But I can start, I start second guessing myself- Right ... if I think about things too much. And I know that my intuition is on when I let it be. Right. That is absolutely true.

That's what I just saw. So okay. So your greatest strength is-

I mean, obviously your healing ability is your greatest strength right now, but I, I feel like your greatest strength is, is your ability to focus and to put your will f- out there and to structure because that is 90% of the effort of actually doing anything in the energy manipulator field. Mm. And that is a rare gift.

A lot of people don't have that combination. And so, uh, and, and you have the, the added benefit of the stubbornness that is required. So the best magicians are super stubborn, super attached to reality and their belief in how things work, and super structured thinkers, and super focused people, and they're...

And, and it's their biggest bonus and their biggest detriment at the same time because being attached to reality the way it is is very challenging for doing magic. But it- Mm-hmm ... but, but, you know, we're like, "I understand it. I know how it works," da, da, da, da, da. Like, like there's a comfort to that. And w- what you have to do is you have to understand metaphysics as well as you understand physics, and then you can let go of reality being reality, right?

Mm-hmm. And so that's the, that's the differential. But, but the stubbornness is what keeps you from losing your focus when you go to do workings. It's your piece that keeps you from falling down when you didn't get something to work right and quitting because, "Oh, well, it didn't work." It's like, "No, I'm stubborn.

I'm gonna figure this out." Right? And- Yeah. It's, it's got to work. Yeah. Damn it. If is not an option. When. Mm-hmm. When this works, and I will figure it out, right? So-

Your blind spot right now is the, the f- the fear factor, right? It's the, I don't know if I wanna do this. I don't know if I wanna be powerful. I don't know, you know, n- n- num, num, num, num, num, num, num, num. There's that pull back energy, right? And that's the, that's your blind spot right now. That's the piece that's holding you back in a big way without you being even conscious of it, right?

Mm. That piece in that, uh, area around owning your power where you were like, "I don't know. I don't know," right? That, that piece because it's running across multiple areas of your abilities, okay? Mm. Your growth edge is suspending the disbelief and just throwing your butt to the wind and, and seeing what happens, right?

You need to be the fool stepping off the cliff, right? Um- Mm ... and that's your growth edge. The most common mistake that you're likely to make from this place is overthinking the process. Okay? I'm gonna remind you that the how is not your problem. We provide the destination and the motivation. The universe provides the navigation.

So we provide the what and the movement, and the universe tells you where to go and how to get there, right? So this, it's a partnership, right? Not a, not a surrender to and with no volition. It is a partnership. So, um, but the control freak side of you is gonna have a hard time with that. Okay. Um, next skill you should develop...

Uh, what am I gonna say there? Let me scroll back up through here

Mm, I feel like the probability line work would be the next thing for you to develop. I'm gonna send you a, a link to the page that tells you all about how those work and stuff because I think for your work that you're doing, I think that's gonna be the most valuable thing to supplement what you're doing.

Mm. Um, and it doesn't have to be visible woo-woo to your clients. So. Yeah. And I think I might actually be doing some of the, like, working backward on probability lines- Yes ... work already. Um- I agree with you ... one of the things, and I've talked to JD about this- Mm-hmm ... where I feel like when I look at somebody and they're telling me about an injury, if I can just visualize, like...

And I'll, and I'll say to somebody, "Yeah, you know, I'm de- it looks like I'm defocusing and checking out, but actually what I'm doing as you're talking is I'm visualizing what happened- Yes ... as you're telling me about your injury. And if I can see the lines of force that they underwent with whatever, with whatever the trigger was, then I can see how to work backwards from there- Yeah, so-

and repair some of that energy. There's another layer to that that you could do. Um, and the... You are using that, and I did see you using that when I was looking at it. Um, but there's another layer to that. So there's two ways to see the injury and how it happened. One is by walking backwards on the, on the lines.

Uh, the other one is by tapping in with your sensor abilities to the story and to experience the story with them and be able to- Mm ... feel within the body how it impacted. So that's two different ways- Yeah ... to do the exact same thing. Yeah. And I'm doing some of that as well. Yeah. So that's the- Yeah ... the very small amount that you're letting happen.

So, um, but yeah, you're using your sensor abilities to do, though. So. Mm-hmm. Uh, okay. The... Do you have any questions about anything we've talked about? How are you feeling? Um, I probably have 10 million questions- ... but they're not quite at, at a place of consciousness to formulate them. I feel like there's a lot that's just marinating under the surface- Yeah

and, yeah, a little, little overwhelming. It's a lot of information. It is. And this is why we record it and provide you with a transcript and a summary because- Uh-huh ... you know, you're gonna listen to this- Yeah ... multiple times, and that's just how it is. But it, it gives you a sense- Yeah ... of what you're dealing with and a bigger picture of how that's h- happening.

So- Yeah ... um, how, how do you feel about the reading overall, though? I think in some ways it's confirming. Uh, there's... I've had a kind of awareness that there's been more going on under the surface that's in this realm than I've been conscious of. And so it's interesting to shine a light on those things and, okay, I'm not crazy, somebody else is actually seeing this too.

Mm-hmm. And, and sometimes I feel like a magician with a new wand, where like I tend to tap in and something completely unexpected happens. I'm like, "Oh!" And then pul- you know, so there, there's a... I've been dancing with this for a very, very long time- Mm ... without having any real guidance or even sense of where to go for guidance or who to talk to about these things where I don't land in inpatient psych.

You know? Yeah. And so, and that part of me that is very science grounded definitely pulls back and goes, "Oh, I don't know about this." But I'm always right on the line between analytic and intuitive. Mm-hmm. And I dance on both sides of that line. And I find in many... Well, I was gonna say I'm more comfortable in the intuitive, but I'm not sure that's true.

I think I'm equally comfortable in both realms, and I'm more familiar with the analytic. And so it's, you know, it's interesting to have some confirmation that what I've been sensing under the surface is probably real. Yeah. And can be developed and trained, and it's not just science fiction and fantasy, which has been some of my favorite genres of literature since I was about, you know, able to read.

Yeah. Me too. I'm with you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So well, that's awesome. So, uh, tell people where do- they can find you if they wanna look you up. So my website is long. It is balboaparkholisticwellnesscenter.com. It's because my practice is right on Balboa Park. And I am on Instagram as acupuncturegeek, and on Facebook also as Balboa Park Holistic Wellness Center.

Thank you so much for being part of that journey, and I really appreciate all the effort that you've put into sharing, and you guys are just amazing. I love you so much. And, uh, remember that what you focus on expands. What you intend is what you create, so choose wisely