Summary

In this episode of the Zekely Podcast, host Zeke interviews Jeffrey Scott, an attorney at Pfizer, discussing various topics including parenting experiences, the role of AI in the pharmaceutical industry, the structure of the Democratic Committee of Lower Merion and Narberth, and the importance of local elections. They also share personal stories about skiing, near-death experiences, and childhood traumas from movies. The conversation highlights the significance of community involvement and the upcoming elections in Pennsylvania.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Jeffrey Scott and Parenting Experiences

04:51 Understanding Compliance in the Pharmaceutical Industry

04:55 AI in Pharmaceuticals: Guardrails and Policies

07:07 Democratic Committee of Lower Marion and Narberth

11:28 Skiing Adventures and Family Activities

15:25 Navigating Family Dynamics and Video Games

17:14 Encouraging Civic Engagement in Local Elections

19:08 Getting Involved in Local Politics

20:07 Working at Pfizer During the Pandemic

21:35 Social Media and Body Shaming

22:49 Near-Death Experiences and Childhood Memories

26:57 AI Blunders in Business

29:01 AI Blunders and Human Oversight

30:18 Childhood Traumas in Film

31:59 How can you help?

33:10 Community Involvement in Politics

33:17 Hope and Future Plans

35:54 Intro and Outro Updated.mp4

Jeffrey Scott: jeffreyscott@gmail.com

Democratic Committee of Lower Merion and Narberth (DCLMN): https://www.democratslmn.org/ 

DCLMN Instagram: @lowermerion_narberthdems  

DCLMN Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DCLMNPA/

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Hello, I'm Zeke and welcome to the Zekely Podcast. Let's talk Pennsylvania. The guest I have today is an attorney at Pfizer in their pharmaceutical and biotechnology space. He helps develop policy for artificial intelligence And he is currently serving as chairperson for the Democratic Committee of Lower Merion and Narberth Thank you so much for being here, Jeffrey Scott.

I’m Zeke, a doctor, a Pennsylvanian and unapologetic supporter of Democratic values. You might have seen me on social media working my ass off for Democrats and meeting some pretty amazing people along the way - like President Barack Obama and Governor Josh Shapiro.

For years, I’ve knocked thousands of doors all over Pennsylvania and poured my heart and soul into supporting candidates and causes that make a difference—from local school board races to national elections. The personal is political, and I take every election in Pennsylvania personally.

Where the mainstream media has failed you, I will give you truth and independence. You’ll hear from Democratic leaders, candidates, and change-makers who are working to improve the health of the Commonwealth, and it won’t be boring as hell.

No matter where you are, I’ll meet you with hope and a plan to make your community better one day at a time. Welcome to the Zekely Podcast. Let’s talk Pennsylvania.

Thanks, Zeke. Nice to see you.

It's good to see you too. I apologize if I sound a little hoarse. I'm just getting over something bad. My whole family just ran through everyone. So I'm on the mend. I'm doing better.

that happens, you know, it's that time of year and like, like you, have little kids and you know, or getting older every day. But you once once those sicknesses kind of run through the school, it's inevitable everyone's gonna get them Yeah.

I know.

I know.

I

know, it's terrible. What kind of a sick person are you? I can tell you, I'm a moaner. Until the meds kick in, I'll just be in bed moaning. I'm not a very stoic sick person. Are you more of stoic sick person?

I'm a more of a stoic, sick person,

Zeke. I actually, you know, I'm definitely the kind of person that more probably this is not great to admit, but yeah, this kind of pretends that I'm not sick for a while. Just like, oh, whatever. I just try to power through it. My wife on the other hand, she's quite the moaner You know, she's like, you know, she's wailing, if she gets sick. So we're very, we're very different in that respect, so.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah,

I'm the wailer, my

is the stoic one, so there you go. But I'm feeling much better. Alright

There you go.

we're gonna talk a little bit about parenting to get off things, okay? So when did you get your parenting badge? You understand what I'm gonna say about that? Like what's the first time that you're like, yeah, I earned this badge today, I'm officially a parent.

Wow, my oldest is 13. So it's got to be a little bit of way ways back.

but maybe a year ago or two years ago we were going to visit my wife's friends in Salt Lake City. And my wife went out like three or four days in advance. And then I had to take my kids on a, I think like 5.30 AM flight out of Philly to Salt Lake City, the three of them, and three kids, all by myself.

Mm.

Uh-huh.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh, I'll buy yourself. I'll buy

yourself.

And that felt

like I'd, you know, if I already had my parenting badge, but if I got like an extra badge after that, maybe that would be it. If I could think of a more recent example.

Okay.

Yeah, I mean, it's funny you bring up flights because I earned my parenting badge on a flight as well. But I feel like lot of parents talk about bodily fluids when they earn their parenting badge. And so I had to clean up very, very, very bad diarrhea on an airplane flight back from vacation when I had three of my kids with me Jess was there. But I was sandwiched in between two of my kids. won't say which one I don't want to embarrass them.

Ha ha!

But it was during the times where we would lug all the car seats with us, we would fly. So we had all the car seats and one of my kids had very voluminous diarrhea at 10,000 feet and it filled up the car seat and it was so bad, so incredibly bad that the flight attendants didn't really know how bad it was.

Right, right.

until they came up to me and they saw it. They gave me one of those red hazmat bags and I had to put, after I got done cleaning up the car seat in the bathroom, they stuffed that car seat in a hazmat bag and locked the bathroom from the outside for the rest of the flight. And they gave me like a free drink. They're like, do you need a drink? And I said, yes.

No, hahahaha

It must

have been above and beyond if you're giving me free drinks.

They gave me,

they said, I said, give me a vodka and a Diet Coke and leave me alone. And that's exactly what they were, there were no questions asked. That to me was the day I earned my parenting badge when I cleaned up diarrhea at 10,000 feet. yeah. yeah, so that's rounding out our parenting badge segment.

Hahaha

It's a very distinct memory, I'm sure.

All right, moving on to a little bit about what you do at Pfizer.

So what type of AI is Pfizer utilizing and how are you helping to manage it?

AI, think has become, all industries at this point. So I think Pfizer is using it in a number of different like trial clinical kind of study design, you know,

Mm-hmm.

identifying molecules, in terms of providing patients with tools to identify disease, all through the life cycle of the drug.

terms of my role, we first to use I got involved with trying to think about kind of guardrails and policies we needed in place.

Like AI is going to be used across the board by lots of different people. So we need kind of rules of the road that folks are going to be able to understand to make sure that they use AI in ethical way. And I think that that's kind of been, what I've been involved in both.

Okay.

Mm.

Pfizer, then the International Association, which is kind of a association that Pfizer and many other companies are involved

Mm-hmm.

And how did you get into the AI space? Like how did you become interested to say, I want to get into this

That's a good question.

I was part of a working group on innovative technology. This was a number of years And we were looking at data and AI ethics as an area to expand And so taking that from there, what we were doing there.

Mm-hmm.

into

So you were kind of ahead of the curve. You were already involved in the AI space, and then Pfizer started utilizing it. Hey, I've already been there, so let me help you out with compliance issues.

I guess I was.

Yeah, I'm

not sure I'm proclaim to be like the most, you out there. But yeah, I think I was a little bit ahead, especially before the Gen AI explosion, before this is all kind of before that happened. Obviously, when Gen AI has come to the even more of kind of

Mm-hmm.

Got it.

Mm-hmm.

A risk are out there. And it's gotten so big at this point that there's a whole team now, Pfizer, kind of separate from what I do now that just deals with AI risk. So, it just has gotten bigger and bigger and bigger. And will probably continue to do so.

Mm.

Well, thanks for explaining what you do at Pfizer in their AI department. And we'll talk, we'll play a game a little bit later to show that sometimes AI can hurt people and why it's important that you do what you do. All right, so moving on, we're gonna talk a little about DCLMN, the Democratic Committee of Lower Merion and Narberth. And I just wanted you to tell everyone, give a brief explanation of the organizational structure.

Yeah, no problem.

of DCLMN and how you were elected as chairperson.

DCLMN, is a community-based organization, right? So you have Lower Merion is made up or divided into 46 precincts. Like, so that's your neighborhood where you vote, small area, a couple blocks. Each of those areas elects two committee people.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

And

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

we'll get elected along with three vice chairs. we kind of divide our township is pretty big, right? We're the 10th biggest municipality, I think in the state or something like that. then we have a treasurer and a secretary. So all those officers are elected at that organizational meeting as well number of what we chairmen.

Mm-hmm.

our chairpeople. We do a lot of our work through the subcommittees. You're one of our subcommittee chairpeople, Zeke, for finance, communications, know, kind of voter registration. And a lot of the day-to-day work that in the committee are done through those subcommittees. And so all those subcommittee chairs are normally elected at that organizational meeting as well. So you have that kind of...

Yep. Yep.

Mm-hmm.

officers and subcommittee chairs and they make up that kind of an executive committee and then we have those what amounts to be 92 committee people. That's the body of the organization.

And we're located in southeastern Pennsylvania, but there are similar organizations all over Pennsylvania, correct? There are democratic committees all over Pennsylvania. There are chair people just like you who are involved in the local politics of that region.

Yeah.

Yeah, so how it works really in Pennsylvania, at least, is that we're at the lowest level, essentially, like municipal organizations. And this organization could be one township, basically, these are all men, which is the Democratic Committee of Lower Merion and Narberth is just Lower Merion and Narberth, or a township and a borough. In other places, it may be a number of townships that are connected together. And so that's kind of the lowest level. In Philadelphia, it's by wards and same thing in Pittsburgh.

Yeah, I mean, these you say the lowest, right? But I mean, it's that's just in hierarchy. But if they're all very important, I mean, what you do at these levels, the type of officials that we help get elected influence our everyday lives. So I understand you by it's the low. Yes. No, no, no, Yes. Yes. Mm

Yeah, I'm certainly not trying to diminish the organization I chaired or the people that we work with. certainly very, we're very mighty and very important in terms of the overall structure of the

in terms of the, if you think about it as a pyramid building up, you know, the municipal ones are the smallest base of the pyramid and the county parties in the middle and then obviously the state parties.

Right, right, yeah. I just want people to understand how these moving parts exist in where they live. There are people just like you who are elected officials, who volunteer essentially, and you're helping to get people elected into their various districts that are gonna help their everyday lives. So thanks for explaining that.

Yeah, the municipal

chairs, community people, anyone involved in the municipal parties, it's all volunteer. No one's getting paid for any of this work for certain. And the same thing with the county parties. are not, know, they might have an executive director or one or two employees in the biggest county parties, but most of them do not. So it's by and large a volunteer kind of organization, top to bottom. know, people putting their time in.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Right.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Mm.

Yeah.

in addition to their job and their kids and everything else going on for sure.

Thank you for explaining the organizational structure of DCLMN. We're gonna move on to a little bit of family oriented questions. So you enjoy skiing with your family, correct? Okay, so what are some of your favorite places to ski in Pennsylvania?

I do. Yeah, I have a good time with them.

Pennsylvania. I do really like Blue Mountain, which is in the Lehigh Valley. They have long runs, they probably the probably the steepest runs out there. does get a little crowded there sometimes. I also enjoy going Jack Frost and Big which are up in closer to Mount Pocono area. And then

Mm-hmm. Okay.

Okay.

is also a good option up in Scranton, right near Scranton. Um, those are probably the main ones I've been to. haven't went to Elk once as a kid. I haven't been there in a long time. Same with Shawnee, haven't been there in a long time. Uh, so can't really speak to them. I've never been to some of the ones in the Western part of the state, like Seven Springs. People really like that. It's closer to Pittsburgh. I haven't really been out there. Uh, so I can't really speak to it.

Mm-hmm.

Okay, yeah, I'm not much of a skier to be honest. I tried skiing once when I was in... I was doing research before I went to medical school and I just really took a bad fall and I'm probably lucky I didn't tear anything in my knee but that was the end of that. I probably should have taken some lessons first but I didn't. I was like, oh, what's the big deal? I can go skiing and that was a terrible idea. I was probably 20, 22? think I was 22 years old.

So how old were you when you tried to ski?

Yeah, I would I would

say it's a little difficult to start when you're, the older you start, the harder it's gonna be to ski. And I think of people who are generally really good skiers usually start when they are younger. And I started skiing when was a kid, my wife did not. she's tried off and on, get some lessons here and there, but it's definitely more

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

for giving some hot spots to ski in Pennsylvania.

there are a number of different offices up for election in 2025. In 2025, Pennsylvania, at least, it's what's called a municipal So local offices in Lower Merion that means school board commissioners, Narberth, that means Narberth council, and both places tax collector. And that's the same across the Commonwealth.

But certainly, there's no state or federal, statewide or federal elections for governor What there are elections for

in statewide are for judges.

What we have now in the fall will be what's called a retention election.

Mm-hmm.

and the Republicans were then to replace them, the Supreme Court could get close or would flip to the Republicans. So these are crucial elections to make sure that we retain our majority on the Supreme not that often that folks have lost those retention elections. there's a concerted effort to defeat these guys,

the retention. We're going to have to organize and make sure that we're ready to that people understand to vote yes on retention.

And we obviously know what the consequences are of having a conservative majority at the Supreme Court level of the United States. And so we don't want that to trickle down into the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

Correct. So a lot's

at stake. have some solid jurists now. We don't want to lose those folks be replaced by extremists because that's who the Republicans would put up replace them.

I would like to try and have some of those judges on this podcast. So stay tuned.

I think that would be great idea. That would be great idea.

Thanks for talking about the elections coming up in 2025.

Alright, so let's talk a little bit about video games. Do you know anything about Fortnite? Do your kids talk about Fortnite at all?

They did

play it for a little Not anymore, really. Yeah, not so much anymore now.

Not anymore. Gotcha.

See, my kids are really into Fort- Well, I guess one of my kids is really into Fortnite right now. And they have these different seasons. Yeah, I mean, it's what it is. I think it's kind of entertaining to watch right now. It's Winterfest, and they have Snoop Dogg, and Mariah Carey, and and they have V-Bucks. Yeah, I don't even understand. The currency is V-Bucks. But I asked my kid, what does the V stand for? didn't even know.

I'm sorry for you.

Sounds about right.

So I have no idea what V is, you think like an F bucks. To get the skins and everything.

All I know is I spent a lot of money on V-Bucks and my kids are really into Fortnite. So I don't know. I don't really know

what I spent for either. I just know it cost me a lot of money.

I know. you ever have like a, you ever watch it you ever have a vision of like what your season would be, Jeff? Like if you could have like Jeff Scott season. Winterfest? Why not?

The winner, the winner, the winner thing sounds pretty good. Yeah, don't know. Yeah, what a fast start of that.

Winter and Snoop Dogg, sounds good. Yeah, sure.

It sounds good to you. I think I have like...

I like fall. I probably have like a fall fest. And I think I want to have it like Matrix themed or something. You know, something really... Yeah. I don't know. Maybe it's been done already.

Fall would be nice too.

Matrix themed. Okay. Well, yeah. Yeah. I haven't thought that deep.

Not quite sure I thought that deeply about it, but, you know.

I don't know, when I'm staring

mindlessly at the kids playing Fortnite, I imagine these things.

I usually tried to

like, yeah, they usually played in the basement. So I kind of keep them, I kept away. Yeah. Yeah. They were usually talking with their friends. They usually were on to kind of video chat while they were playing Fortnite and they were all like playing together. like, if I were there, they'd be like, don't talk to me. You're gonna mess up or don't say anything. All my friends. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

You keep away from them? Understood. Well, thanks for talking to me about some Fortnite.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, don't, you're gonna get me killed, don't talk. That's funny. All

right, so let's get back to some of the elections. If someone is interested in running for school board or county commissioner or some of the other offices you were talking about in Montgomery County, how can they get in contact with you to get more information?

yeah. Well, that's easy. I mean, I think the easiest thing to do would be to email me. JefferyScott @ gmail.com. That's easy. So folks should just reach out. I mean, first of all, I'd say, we obviously consider endorsing candidates as a local committee, but we can only endorse candidates who decide to run.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

I think some people think that we actually find the candidates and like recruit them. We really don't. I mean, we're really trying to get as many people the process as possible who might bring something to the table in terms of whether it's school board or lower Merion township commissioner or whatever office. We also have tax collector for election and all kinds of other esoteric offices that maybe people don't think about. so what we want to do first and foremost is to get a lot of qualified, good people.

Mm-hmm.

into the process so we as a committee have the ability to choose from like really talented people. We have a lot of talented people in Lower Merion which is great. These are again volunteer

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

we want to do right by the community and with our endorsements, meaning we have as many people involved as

Mm-hmm.

Well, I mean, I hope that people are going to get more civically engaged because these local elections are important and they're consequential. So I hope that if anyone sees this, that they will reach out to you if they're interested in running for some of these positions and that they'll want to work hard, just like you are for the committee. Which thank you very much for doing that.

Yeah, for sure. That would

be great. I appreciate it, Zeke. I appreciate it.

You're welcome. Well, thanks for talking about how to get involved with you. And I assume there are other people around the state. They can also contact their local Democratic committee if they want to run for their local elections as well.

Yeah, yeah, if you don't

live in, you're also in this, you don't live in Lower Merion or Narberth, but you want to get involved, I think the first place to look at is probably websites, you know, whether, municipal party has a website or your county party, start there or call them up. Again, remember a lot of those folks are also volunteers, so they might, you you might leave them a voicemail and they might get back to you for a day or two.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

but you know, this is the time to do it. If you're thinking about it, know, the petition period starts in February, but now is the kind of time to start really thinking about it. even, you know, start talking to people if you're really interested.

Mm-hmm.

All right, let's talk a little bit about Pfizer again and what you do there. What was it like working at Pfizer during the COVID pandemic?

I think it was kind of everyone was very, not that they all the this laser focus and kind of feeling about what everyone did. A lot of people are there because our impact on and wanting to help patients and make a difference for folks. But I think that was just so

Mm-hmm.

that like times 10 during the during the pandemic. once it was like, yes, we we think we have a vaccine and we're going to we're on a lightning fast timeline to get it out to the public to save lives and in the pandemic. I think it was just like, wow, like

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

That's why everyone kind of like why they might want to work for a pharmaceutical company. I think it made people feel just, very proud to work there, I think.

Yeah, I mean that was very consequential the work that they did and it saved millions of lives so that must have been really cool to be a part of that.

Indeed, indeed. Not that I could take very much for anything in terms of the actual vaccine, but was definitely an exciting time to be there.

Yeah,

you're still contributing in some fashion. Well, thanks for talking about that.

let's talk about some, some near death experiences. Have you ever had a near death experience?

I think, yes, I think like what grade I was in, maybe 10, must have been like 11th, because I was driving. I was driving my parents' car and it stalled out in actually the, the shop is there where the McDonald's is in Ardmore. And this guy was behind me that's like laying on his horn. And I was like, done, like the transmission was blown. I could not move.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, okay, okay.

So finally I get out of car and I open the door and at that moment the guy decided to give up and guns it around me. And I like slammed up against the car to avoid being hit and he like basically almost took the door off the car. Yeah, so it was, it was, was, mean, close enough, close enough. Yeah, yeah, it was pretty scary. And he hit and run, and he hit and run. He left, I saw, but I saw.

wow.

That was.

close enough. Yeah, that's scary. And mine, mine was a little bit more. you never.

by guy's license plate and the cops found him. It was an old, was some like

You got it. Okay. And they got they got him. That's that's it.

90 year old guy who shouldn't have been driving.

All right, well, mine is from my childhood. I grew up in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, and we had a 30 acre plot of land. one of my many responsibilities was feeding the horses. We had three draft horses. And so I had to bring buckets of grain to them out in the field, no matter where they were. The field was like sectioned off.

Mm-hmm.

And so

I had to go out there every day and like walk out and bring them their grains and their vitamins. And there were little streams running throughout the fields that they would drink from. Well, there was this flash storm, like a flash like rainstorm, and these little streams were turned into like rivers essentially. And I looked outside and I turned to my parents, I was like, it looks pretty dicey out there. like, no, the horses need their vitamins, you gotta go. So here, I think I must've been 10 years old.

Yeah.

wow.

10,

maybe 10 years old.

I wish my 10 year old, I

wish my kids that age were doing stuff like being, you know, giving vitamins to horses.

No, it was not enjoyable time of my...

Not the best memories of my life, as I'm telling a near-death experience. So I'm carrying these buckets, these three buckets, and I'm wearing my dad's boots. So I'm 10 years old wearing my dad's knee-high boots. And I'm trudging through the fields, and in order to get to where the horses were, I had to hop over this little tributary and then walk up around the street. And there was this gigantic...

manhole pipe that ran underneath the road. You know, that's like five feet, like these huge pipes. And normally the stream is like a couple inches deep. And now there's only a couple inches of air space, like in the pipe. And so I set the buckets on the other side of the little tributary and I put the buckets down and I hop across thinking that this little patch of grass is ground, but it was just floating on the water. And so I fall into the water.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

and the boots immediately fill up with water. I start getting pulled under towards this gigantic manhole, this gigantic thing. And so at the last second, I reach up and I grab onto the top of it. And I'm like staring down this like rushing river underneath me and I just pull myself off to the side. The boots are gone. They were like ripped off my feet. And I'm just like huddled up crying in the middle of this storm in the field. I leave the buckets there.

Wow.

Wow.

and I just trudged back to the house, it was like a quarter mile, and I just walk inside and my mom, loses her mind, And she was upset, and I was more scared that I lost my dad's boots, than I almost got sucked into this river and drowned. So, yeah, that was.

you're losing your dad's

boots at that age. Could be traumatic. Probably not. It's almost drowning, but yeah.

Well, I mean that,

I know that's some childhood trauma there too, but yeah, that was my near-death experience, almost drowning on the farm.

That's

a kind of dramatic

I know, well I saved it for you Jeff. You're welcome, you're welcome.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

All right. So let's talk about AI blunders because we talked about earlier, you know, how AI has come into the fray with many, companies and how now we're going to play a game about how artificial intelligence has actually not done such a great job.

Okay.

Okay, so your job is to guess which companies this happened to.

So let's play AI blunders, all right? So which fast food chain ended its AI experiment after a slew of social media videos showed confused and frustrated customers trying to get an AI to understand their orders?

Hmm, I'll go with Burger King.

Well, it's adjacent, McDonald's. so that's pretty darn close. So McDonald's, yeah, they had to stop their AI order system. All right, so which social media AI chatbot falsely accused NBA star Klay Thompson of throwing bricks through windows of multiple houses in Sacramento, California?

Okay, close enough.

I no idea. I'm interested to hear. I'm going to say Facebook.

You don't know? All right. That's fine.

It was Grok from X. Yeah, Grok. Grok is the AI-generated bot on X. I know. Yeah, nobody else.

I'm not that familiar

with GROK. I don't use X that much. It had nothing to do with the recent election. I it was never a big X person.

Nah, yeah. And I would, and

it's fine, yeah, so that was Grok. All right, moving on. Which city utilized an AI chatbot that falsely claimed business owners could take a cut of their workers' tips, fire workers who complain of sexual harassment, and serve food that had been nibbled on by rodents? Yeah.

Hopefully not Lower Merion.

I'm going to say Houston.

No. Which major city?

New York City. The chatbot is called My City and it still remains online. Yeah.

Really?

All right. Hopefully with different ads. Hopefully

someone's curated the answers a little better, fed it some more, trained it a little bit better.

Yeah, I hope so too.

I'm say Zillow.

You got it, Zillow. That was a pretty big AI blunder. right, here's the last one. Which computer and technology company released an AI chat bot called Tay onto Twitter? It was called Twitter then in 2016, but it was pulled after only 16 hours when it began posting overtly racist, misogynistic, and anti-Semitic tweets.

Alright.

yeah,

I should know this one. I do know this. Ugh, I know this. I think it was Google.

Which computer and technology company?

Microsoft? It's Microsoft, yeah. Interestingly enough, the predecessor of Tay was released by Microsoft in China two years earlier, and it had conversations with like 40 million people, it didn't have any issues. But Microsoft didn't take into account that Twitter users might make racist comments at Tay, and then Tay might incorporate them into its own tweets. So yeah, those are some AI blunders. So it's a good thing you...

That was Microsoft. Okay. Okay.

Hmm... Yeah?

There you go

Another human in the loop, a lot

another human in the loop, know, less like, you know, that would have maybe mitigated some of those errors.

Yeah, or maybe someone like you overseeing the project.

thank you. Thank you for that shameless plug.

You're welcome.

Alright, well thanks for playing AI Blunders. Let's move on to some more childhood trauma. Which movie traumatized you as a kid? I feel like everybody has to have a movie that traumatized you. The Goonies traumatized you?

Yes.

Oh, so yeah, Goonies.

So I went to see it in the theater, right? So I'm old enough to have gone to see it in theater, but I was pretty young. I might've been six, seven, and Chunk like scared the bejesus out of me. Yeah, when he's still like, he's like chained up at the beginning, you know. I saw it, not Chunk, so I saw it, sorry.

Okay.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Chunk? Wow.

sloth. you mean sloth. Yeah, sloth. I was like, check.

How can you be scared of Chunk

That's

right, Chunk is a kid, sorry, I'm in sloth. Yeah, I don't think I made it through the whole movie, actually.

Yeah, sloth. I could see that. Okay, I could see that.

Did you ever watch it you older and appreciate it for the lovely movie that it is?

Of course I watched it a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

don't think I appreciated it whenever I saw it. So I don't know what year it came out, but I must have been pretty young.

Understood.

I don't know. Yeah.

For me, it's the never-ending story. The never-ending story. It was the horse dr- Yeah, I mean, it was the horse drowning scene. That really, I wasn't ready for that, Jeff. You know, it's just like, why you have to hurt the horse? Yeah. It sinks down into the mud and he's like screaming at it. Yes. Yeah. That messed me up for a long time.

Yeah, okay. That's some scary moments there.

Hmm. Yeah. Yeah, it goes into like the bog, right? It like sinks down in the Tre, you can't save a horse. I haven't seen that movie in a long

time. Yeah.

Yeah, that really messed me up. Well, I'm glad we can share our childhood trauma together. I know.

There's some scary stuff in it, but never in a story. I probably saw that

in a theater too. I don't know what year that came out, but I probably...

I definitely

didn't. saw that, I don't remember where I saw it, but when I did, that really threw me. It was difficult to settle down after that. All right.

Yeah.

Okay,

well, I'm going to talk about these upcoming elections

what else can people do in our community to support Democrats running for local office?

Well, I think first and foremost, get involved, whether it's one hour a month or 10 hours a month or every time you can get, you could volunteer with us. I mentioned before, a lot of the work we do is through the different subcommittees. They'll vote, excuse me, voter registration, issues in policy, communications, working with campaigns. These are all different subcommittees. So even if you're not a committee person, you could get involved in those. So that's something you can get involved in right away. If you don't live in Lower Merion,

You know, your local municipal party or your local county party probably needs volunteers to do lots of stuff, I'm sure that there's someone who needs, you know, there's doors to be knocked, envelopes to be stuffed, know, events to be planned, even run yourself. You know, there's lots of ways to get involved.

Yeah, and make donations to your local Democratic committee as well.

Or make donations as well. Don't

forget about our Spring Mixer. Anyone who's from Lower Merion or not from Lower Merion, you're welcome to come to the Spring Mixer and donate some well-needed funds to our committee.

That's right, I'm sure.

That's right.

Thanks for talking about that. Alright, so I have two more questions for you. Alright, what gives you hope?

Sure.

there's lots of still in front of me. So I always have hope that, you

tomorrow's gonna be just as good or better than

And then what plans do you have to get yourself through these next few years? I mean, obviously you're the chairperson of a committee. that's a big part of it. But what else are you going to do? Because a lot is going to be happening.

Yeah, a lesson, I think.

Yeah,

I think just continue to work at what we've been Just continue get people and not get overly on, need to oppose everything Trump does. I don't think that that's, the most helpful thing in the world, right? I think just being not being Trump or just being against Trump is not And so I'd much rather focus my time on

Mm-hmm.

What are we going to be for? What are we going to offer people going forward? Because that's what's going to win elections. That's what's going to win, maybe get beyond 50-50 elections, is to have that vision that people could rally around, And I'm not saying this isn't, people shouldn't go do it. If they feel like they need to go protest or do this or that, that's fine. It's understandable, but that's not.

what I think is gonna get me through the next couple of years, through the next couple of years is really putting our heads down, doing the harder work maybe, and really figuring out what are we offering people in the long run? And really Zeke, what I think always has inspired me to be involved in democratic politics is to give people

Right, right.

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

the vision of opportunity and, allowing people to see what they can become in what is clearly the greatest country in the world. And having that vision and being able to articulate it, That's what's going to get us through the next four years.

Mm-hmm.

not just simply saying, wow, why'd you go for this guy? You thought he's going to lower the price of eggs Now what do you think? They didn't do that. That's not going to convince anyone that like we have a great answer to anything. Yeah. It's just going to make us look more condescending.

Right, right.

I agree. Well, that's why we have to these conversations and showcase what people within our communities who are Democrats are doing to move the needle forward, you know, to.

Yeah, I don't

pretend I know all the answers, by the way, but I think we have those conversations.

I agree, I agree.

All right, well, thank you so much, Jeff, for joining me here today. I really appreciate your time and for everything you're doing for Lower Merion and , Narberth.

All right, Zeke, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. This has been great.

Absolutely. Well, thank you for

me here on the Zekely Podcast. Stay hopeful and get involved. And until next time, let's keep building a stronger Pennsylvania together.