In this episode, hosts dive into the Book of Numbers, covering chapters 5 and 6. They discuss how God's instructions aimed at purifying the camp from diseases and ensuring dedication and faithfulness within marriage. The intriguing and sometimes mystifying 'test for adultery' and the rules around it are also explored with thoughts on ancient Israeli culture and its implications. Additionally, they touch on the Nazarite vow and how it can be paralleled to modern-day practices like fasting. The episode concludes with the Aaronic blessing, highlighting God's desire to bless His people. Throughout, the hosts emphasize respect for the Bible’s original cultural context and its enduring principles.
00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
00:56 Using Descript for Sermons
01:49 Challenges of Preaching
02:17 Discussion on Numbers 5: Cleansing and Restitution
06:05 Test for Adultery in Numbers 5
08:57 Understanding Ancient Cultural Contexts
15:13 Numbers 6: The Nazarite Vow
18:40 The Aaronic Blessing
19:48 Closing Remarks and Prayer
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yeah, it's so easy as pastors to reuse
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so challenging because on the one hand,
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things and how you communicate them
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something fundamentally different
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cross references, our job
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without saying anything brand new.
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:Speaking of challenging, let's
jump into numbers five and six.
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:Numbers five is about the
cleansing of the people of God.
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how I want you to purify the camp
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with skin disease again, which is always a
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to put outside, be put outside the camp.
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the ceremonial elements, but
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this nomadic group of people because
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Israel got leprosy because they
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camp, that's practically a bad thing.
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by being put outside the camp.
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:Is this leprosy as we know it today?
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off skin, all those things.
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it, I think it was earlier in, or
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this, it talks about the person that
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or the leprosy is head to toe.
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allowed to come back into society.
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form of leprosy than what we know today.
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I think scholars land.
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things in mind when we say that the
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to describe skin conditions Yep, which
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leprosy today is from an armadillo dude.
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armadillos It's nail beds.
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can carry the disease.
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don't pick him up.
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and give him to your kids.
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that's what you do in Texas.
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cruelty and pain, contrary to you.
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recently about animal suffering.
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when it makes sense, but that is
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I would like to talk about that.
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armadillos, lots of Bobcats.
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sightings and I heard your wife saw
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kid dressed up as a bobcat?
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I want to post on ranked bobcat sighting.
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everybody's mocking them on that.
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some yucks, the neighbor section on it.
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scroll it for a little while.
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day we're all in a panic because
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PGA at the golf course down there.
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all the fire engines going down to PGA?
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to all kinds of skin conditions.
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Hebrews 13, by the way, Christ
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the writer of Hebrews saying that he was
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if you've sinned against them, then you
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the sacrifice appropriate for that.
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and add 20 percent on top of that.
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to deter them because it was serious.
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to treat that flippantly and say
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and then bring the sacrifice.
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repaying them for that.
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part of the purification And now the
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11 through 31 the test for adultery.
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really, for a modern reader, you read this
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and what, why is her thigh falling off?
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originating culture and also applying it
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of the resource, right?
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illustrated Bible background commentary.
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:Zondervan illustrated Bible
background commentary.
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edition and a New Testament edition.
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one of the points they made, I thought
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woman suspected of adultery, she was
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and regulations, but the one she was
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saying, we think you're guilty.
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going to punish you as we see fit.
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the Lord and the Lord is going to be the
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what appears almost a little bit mystical
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and if it causes, it's going to cause your
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which is probably talking about sterility
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in something that seems rather, we're
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culture, like this is patriarchal and
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and everything else like that.
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listen, I'm going to be the one
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it in the hands of a jealous husband,
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hands of a group of men that are
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of mercy towards the woman that she's her
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nor is it in the hands of a human judge,
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her out and exposes her sin.
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this is that the guy, if there is
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he gives him a recourse to deal with it.
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that someone might have is then
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her husband if she thinks
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Hey, I want you to drink this
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you could provide that would help us to
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this and from an ancient perspective and
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because there's not really an answer
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and good inside at the end of the day
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guy was not accountable for his actions.
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not called to be faithful to his wife.
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condoning extramarital affairs for
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is something where they're caught
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they're going to be stoned to death.
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Mesopotamian culture, the code of
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that the male and female were going to
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and drowned for the sin of adultery.
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weightiness to the act of adultery,
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was sitting here saying this is an okay
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You don't have a right in this The thing
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woman have a recourse to go and accuse
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not whether or not god's condoning this
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we don't have any clear teaching of
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what the woman's allowed to do, right?
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for instance hannah So Hannah was
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Samuel's mom she was married
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that state of being barren and she went
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Lord over her circumstances and the Lord
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prayers and provided her with Samuel.
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more children down the road after
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we can draw from that is God
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that are present in Israel.
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Hannah in that way, if there was a
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watching her husband go out and do things
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Lord, the way that Hannah did.
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God being true to that woman in that
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we don't have that specifically as a
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this, that we're looking at this
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because I think it's so important.
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understanding of equality, equity.
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of male, female gender.
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within the church, there's in house
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relationships are supposed to work.
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with all of our baggage saying this is
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have said this and that.
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not an easy answer to this that we
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the fact that you're reading this.
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modern or not the modern the original
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them They would have said oh, yeah
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he's doing and I just want you to feel
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understand God's ways perfectly as I look
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that's when they were That's when
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through the exodus There's a lot
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upper hand, give God the benefit of
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things I don't understand about this.
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for this in the next year or so, as I
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be patient with the fact that you're
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about how this culture operated.
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our Bible every year.
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know, we'll hopefully remember.
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you were saying is true.
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into my mind there for a second.
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our modern day eyes, but we do need
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things have changed drastically.
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through modern day eyes after you do the
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then always now, we always ask, what did
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then you could say what does it,
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that are always applicable?
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there's work that needs to be done.
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and say I'm just going to take this
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to have issues because you're not doing
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it mean to that culture at that time?
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the purity of marriage.
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of the marriage relationship and we'll
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Look, this king had multiple wives
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so clearly god was okay with polygamy
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this example, and clearly he's not.
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of action, as it may appear in some areas
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relationship between a man and a wife.
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takeaway here in this passage.
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offer one small thing here.
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over your spouse, not in a negative
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for the purity of your marriage.
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not going to just hit their passively
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sign that they're still attractive.
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sense, but this is my marriage.
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jealousy over your spouse.
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had the email going already to me.
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was like, Eli feels right.
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was the priest at the time,
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number seven, six number seven, six.
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in the Nazarite vow.
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that had taken a vow, usually a
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themselves to the service of God.
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would say, I'm going to vow myself to
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:the Lord in service of this, for this
amount of time, a couple of Nazarites
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and Samuel were both set apart by
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the vow that Paul had taken
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just here in the book of numbers but
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come back to valves again.
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because you dedicate yourself to the
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play in Israel's history?
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application to us today?
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Hey, you know what?
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area of my life for a period of time.
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maybe Texas Twinkies for two months.
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suspend the fast and I'll do it over
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to go back to step too far.
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that's what this was about.
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first question, this was meant to,
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of time, or maybe that was as in the
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entire life, they were to be set apart
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these external elements of the Nazarite
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your hair out or whatever it may be.
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and of that in and so when you think to
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The strength was in his hair because
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to the Lord It wasn't that there was
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the guy's long hair when his hair got
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faithfulness to the Lord.
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longer with him in the sense
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serve to accomplish something, to
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had provided for a person, maybe God had
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sparing my life, God, I'm going to go
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for this period of time as a Nazirite.
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example would probably be the closest
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and these gals, it's not just for guys.
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applicable to the ladies.
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:I don't ever read of a
gal being a Nazarite.
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they're like the priest in so many ways.
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:They don't have the same privileges
as the priest, but they're set
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gives them an opportunity to do this.
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it, and use it as you see fit.
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vow is no longer applicable because
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completely, from A to Z, the
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is, I don't know, no longer necessary.
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and therefore, you should operate as
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:a Nazirite, even though you don't have
The same Nazarite privileges or the vows
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better in Christ totally Yep.
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:Numbers six, 22 through 27 is the
conclusion here of chapter six,
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Aaron to pronounce over the people,
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:over the whole nation, not just
the priests and the Levites and the
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to us, may his face shine upon us.
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:In fact, there's a silver
scroll in or a, it's actually
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:not silver, I take that back.
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and it contains this, and it's one of the
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:oldest examples of scripture, scriptural
writing that we have in our possession.
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to, I want to say around 700 BC.
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blessing is on that scroll.
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:So cool, really cool that God
commands Aaron to bless the people.
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:God cares about his people
and he wants to bless them.
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:I think that's helpful
for us as Christians.
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:I think about the fact that we ought
to be blessing our families and our
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them like this and the Lord bless you.
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face to shine upon you.
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I think that's just God's heart.
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:Hey, let's wrap up this episode with
prayer and then we'll be done with this.
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the daily Bible podcast.
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:God we thank you for just the
reminder in the passage today before
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:And we are bound by time.
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:You are transcendent of time and your
ways are perfect and right in accordance
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:with how you reveal them and how you
unfold them given the certain context
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:and dispensation and season and time.
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:So God, we want wisdom and we want
humility as we approach the scriptures
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:to not sit in judgment because of our
cultural influences and understandings.
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:But we also thank you that what we
see here is that you love marriage and
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:that you care about the purity of the
relationship between a husband and wife.
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:And so God help us to
appreciate that element as well.
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:And to fight for that, we want to
be a church of pure marriages and
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:marriages that you were going to
use for the good of your kingdom.
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:And so we ask that and pray
for that in Jesus name.
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:Amen.
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and tune in again tomorrow for another
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