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Overcoming Fears and Asking for Opportunities with Orly Amor
Episode 3913th March 2025 • The One Small Change Podcast • Yvonne McCoy
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In this episode of One Small Change, host Yvonne McCoy is joined by Orly Amor, who shares her transformative journey from property management to becoming a motivational speaker. Through personal anecdotes and insights, Orly emphasizes the importance of overcoming fears, asking for what you want, and sharing your story to inspire others. The conversation delves into mindset shifts, core values, and the courage needed to step out of one's comfort zone.

Guest Bio:

Orly Amor is a sought-after business coach for public speakers who focuses on helping speakers get paid for sharing their message. With a background spanning over 25 years in property management, Orly's journey into motivational speaking began unexpectedly but led her to discover the impact of sharing her personal story. She is also the founder of a foundation dedicated to helping rescue victims of human trafficking, further showcasing her commitment to service and community.

Chapters:

00:00 "Leap of Faith: Embracing Survival"

05:58 External Expectations Shape Mindset

07:06 Mindset Mastery: Self-Reflection Tool

12:25 Genuine Networking and Collaboration Benefits

13:18 Mindset: Key to Entrepreneurial Resilience

17:25 "Ask to Achieve in Business"

21:08 "Finding Purpose Through Self-Reflection"

25:07 Healing Centers for Trafficking Victims

27:00 "Subscribe, Share, and Grow Together"

Main Quote by the Guest:

"If you have a plan A and a plan B, your plan B will become your plan A."

Links to Guest's Website:

[FREE MASTERCLASS]

How to Make $150K in Your First Year of Public Speaking

https://crm.meetorlyamor.com/pga-masterclass

Transcripts

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Welcome to the One Small Change, and I'm thrilled that you've decided to

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take some time to embark on this journey of exploration and transformation

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with us. And I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and I bring almost thirty years

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of entrepreneurial experience, and I bring a passion for

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discovering growth through the power of seemingly small change.

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And, you know, entrepreneurship is a journey, and it's a journey of

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exploration and inspiration. And this week we are talking

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to the amazing Orly Aman. Orly

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Amor. Amor. I'm sorry. I I didn't I thought I had it, and I should've

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I should've checked. So anybody who's listened to this podcast knows

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that my my signature thing is that I screw up every speaker's

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name. So,

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Orly, you know, you've got some I've heard you before. I've

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been to your workshops. So you've got some amazing wisdom to share with

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people, and it's stuff that they can use both in their personal and

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professional life. So tell us about the small change that happened to

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you that helps you to do what you do. And then, you know, I

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know you're gonna give us some tips and stuff and a free gift at the

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end. So, go for it. Tell us your

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amazing story. So it's kind of a funny

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story because we always think that we need to know everything or

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we need to, have everything right.

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And I was in property management for, like, twenty five years. And

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one day, one of my friends asked me to speak at a women's shelter. And

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I was already speaking in the world of property management, so it was

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kind of weird that she asked me that. And so I said to her,

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what should I speak about, property management? Because that was the first thing that

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came to my mind. And she said, no, silly. I want you to come and

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tell your story. And I literally refused because

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I didn't know where she was going with this, but,

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she called me every single week. I mean, everything single day for three weeks.

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Sorry. That's what I wanted to say. And, she basically

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just got annoying. I don't know if you ever had an annoying friend, Yvonne, because

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I'm sure you did. And so after three weeks, I said to her,

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listen. I don't know why you're calling me every day, but why me? Because there's

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other people that speak on the same topic. Why do you want me to speak?

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And she said, well, you have this bubbly personality. Everybody loves

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you. When we go out to networking events, everybody hugs you. People don't even

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know you hug you. And you're like a social butterfly, and you're living a lifestyle

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that most people dream about. Why don't you come and give these women hope?

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And the next thing I said was, well, what do I have to do to

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get you off my phone? Because I was still unwilling

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to tell my story. And this is everybody's story. We are

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unwilling to do something when we are presented with an opportunity.

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And so I relented. And three months later, I was speaking at this

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women's shelter, and it's there that I met a woman that wanted to end

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her life. In fact, she showed me how was she was gonna kill

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herself that morning, and she was not planning to come to the shelter,

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but that's where she ended up. And she heard me speak and

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she decided to live and asked me to show her how.

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And hence, the why we should take the chance to

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take the leap of faith of whatever to do

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something that is very uncomfortable. I did not wanna tell my

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story. And, Yvonne, just for your audience and so that you guys know where I'm

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coming from, I was a beaten up child. I was molested four times before the

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age of 14. I was raped three times before the age of 22, twice

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getting raped, nine months apart, left for dead. And as a result of that,

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I gained a morbid amount of weight, and I had four abortions. And I was

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also married to a very abusive husband, both mentally and physically. So at the end

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of the day, I did not wanna share that story.

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It was shame. It was criticism. It was,

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you know, how people would view me or look at me or judge

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me. And I think we all make decisions with this type

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of judgment in mind from other people.

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And so I had to change that. I think you're I think you're so right.

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And and I would say that, you know, we all

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have things that we're ashamed of, and they may not be as massive and as

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traumatic as the things that you go on to. I mean, and I think people

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people go, oh my god. This is you know, she's overcome so

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much. You know, the thing that I'm afraid of is so little, so,

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you know, it probably doesn't affect me that much, but it does. It

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our what what we're ashamed of is significant to us.

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I mean, I learned that when I I did a weight loss class, and and,

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you know, part of my shame was that I was morbidly obese.

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At one point, I weighed four hundred and forty pounds. Okay? And

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and when I did this weight loss class, it was I wanted it to be

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for people who had to lose, like, a hundred pounds, but I thought I don't

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wanna put a number on it. And so I said, anybody who want

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this class is for anybody who wants to lose a significant amount of

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weight. And I was surprised at the number of people who wanted to

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lose five or 10 pounds. And I had to go,

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This is you know, their significant is not necessarily the same

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as my significant, but it's still holding them back.

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And I think that's true of what you're saying as well. Yeah.

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Well, you know and also, it's not a competition of stories or who has been

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through more the, you know, than the other. It's about

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how we perceive it and how dramatic are we making it. Because

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sometimes the reality of it, yes, it happened. Do

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I need us to be living there? No. I don't. And,

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unfortunately, we keep repeating ourselves a dialogue that

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has that's keeping us stuck in the old way of doing

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things, in the old story we told ourselves.

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So we told ourselves that we will be criticized or dissected

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or whatever and shamed, But at the end of the day, it's not even

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true. And and I think the other thing that

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makes makes us even more powerful is that

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society has put certain expectations on us. You know? So it's not

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just what's going on in your head. It's It's what the outside forces I mean,

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one of the things I talk about all the time is that, you know,

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a big thing for me, a big mindset for me, was that

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if you did something, it was you either succeeded or you failed.

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And so if I thought I was gonna fail, then I wouldn't do it. Because

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in school, you get good grades for getting the right answer and doing the

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right things. And when I got into business, you got

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rewarded for doing the right thing. Right? And so

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even though you may have this, inner dialogue going on,

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a lot of that is coming actually coming from outside. I mean, do you find

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that that has had an impact as well?

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I think that if you have a strong mindset, you can deal with the

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outside forces. The thing is that it's it's really in

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an inner job. It's an inner job. Like I say to people, it's really

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it's it's my inner job. And when people say, oh my god. You've been through

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so much. I say, yes. It happens, but that's

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about it. The story I keep telling myself is how amazing I am

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and how amazing I can be to others and how,

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servuable I can be to others and what is my core values and

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what I want to do in this world and how much I want to accomplish

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for myself because nobody's gonna give it to me.

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So at the end of the day, the stories that we are talking about from

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the outside is there's nothing that can really affect us. When

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I do my mindset mastery program for people, the one thing I say to

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them is go get a dagger, like a knife, a big one, out of

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your kitchen, and put it in front of you, it on your table in

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front of you or on your desk in front of you. I want you to

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do that right now. And so they go do it, and they put it in

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front of them on the table. And my next question is, from where

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it is on the table or on the desk, can it hurt

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you? And the answer is no. How can it hurt

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me? It can only hurt me if I pick it up and stab myself or

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if I pick it up and stab you with it. That's really where

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it would hurt. Otherwise, what are it's not gonna

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hurt. So what we're doing is the same thing with words and

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outside forces. We're letting them in. We're letting them

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affect us, and that's when it hurts. It doesn't hurt if we

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don't. So you can ignore and choose what you're gonna

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put inside your head and inside your heart so that it doesn't

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affect you at all. And and I I absolutely agree with what

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you're saying. And I think the other thing that you hit on, at one

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point is your your core values and stuff. And I think when

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you're making a mindset shift and and

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you're trying to do step out of your comfort zone, I

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think that when you make whatever you're doing bigger than yourself,

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you know, that it's not all about you. It's it's how you show up

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in the world and how you impact other people. And I think, you know,

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one of the things that I talk about in my workshop is when you start

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out as a kid, you don't know how many people you're gonna affect in your

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life and how you're gonna affect them. Do you know? And it

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sometimes it's just a kind word. I mean, one

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of the things that happened to me was I we we were coming back on

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a vacation, and there were some there was a, you know, an adult gentleman who

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had a learning disability. And, when he got he was sitting in

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the row of in front of us, like, on the other side. And as everybody

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came onto the airplane, it's not like you're in you can

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go fast. I mean, you're just standing there. Right? And he was

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saying to everybody, see my fish? See the picture of my fish?

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Do you know? This is the fish I caught on vacation. See and everybody

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ignored this this man. And this one lady came up

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and said to you know, stop. I mean, she was standing there anyway. And

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she stopped and she said, oh, is that a

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freshwater fish, or is that a saltwater fish? My son goes fishing.

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And his face just lit up. And I thought

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to myself because he had tried to talk to me earlier, and I was like,

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I wanna get on the plane. I'm like, god. You know? I was like, oh

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my god. What a horrible person I am. And I think

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about that now. I mean, she had no idea that she

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had that impact on me that that, you know, turned a mirror on me and

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said, look at yourself and look at how you're showing up in the world.

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Right? And it's not all about you. It's about how you

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impact other people along the way. Right. Many

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of the way oh, sorry. Go ahead. Oh, go ahead. You many

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of the many of the things that happen to us, circumstances, events,

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etcetera, every single day, we are faced with so many

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things, whether it's through social media or other, and

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many of them are more like more negative than other. I'm just

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gonna say that that way, because whether we believe it or not, there's

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so much negativity. And at the end of the day, we start

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believing that we start believing that this is the norm. And we

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act from a place of fear and lack instead of a place of

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abundance and, and, and more and more of people

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that need us. And every person we meet, like,

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I say that often, I don't take anyone or anything for granted.

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So if somebody talks to me, I will listen because

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they needed that that moment. It wasn't about me. It wasn't even about

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them. They just needed a moment. And and I get where you're

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coming from. It's not that you were a horrible person, but you're going through your

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own thing. And so it wasn't the right moment for

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you to give your time or attention to this person, and

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it's okay. Nobody needs to feel guilty about just

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passing by a homeless person and not giving them a dollar.

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It's not about that. It's about whenever you can give,

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whenever you can, help, whenever you can listen.

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And but think about the other part of this. I believe that every person we

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meet is like an angel sent from God because God is not gonna come

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down and give us anything. He is going to send his

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messengers. And for me, that is a huge

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a huge misconception of who are the people around

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us, whether they're, we put them above us, below

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us, whatever we're putting them as equals. I put everybody as

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equals. So it's easier to talk to them and see how we

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can be of service. So my three core values are integrity,

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community, and service. Well, and and one of the

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things that that I like about what you say is,

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you know, people talk about networking. And if you go networking

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to find somebody, then you're gonna walk away with nothing. But

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if you go to networking to find connections and say, how can

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we support each other? And, you know, I have found you know, a a

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wonderful person that I think we probably both know said to me once I

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was, you know, asking about something. He said, what what I found

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is the better the quality of person that you work with,

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the less that you have to worry about scarcity or any of those kinds of

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things because they're always in a giving mode. And I find that, you

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know, if you that's so true. I mean, it's just so true.

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And it's not like you have an agenda like I, you know, I want to

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kind of thing. You said something else, though, that that

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I thought was really amazing. You were talking about your mastermind and your

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mindset. I think that, you know, mindset

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is probably the biggest piece for most, whether you're an entrepreneur, whether you're

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a speaker, whatever. That is the biggest thing. I mean,

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because I think, you know, like I said, from a societal point of

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view, we are we go to school, we think we're gonna have a job or

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whatever. And, you know, we come out of that into

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a situation where we no longer have a marketing department or a

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HR department or a whatever, t IT or whatever,

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and and we're on our own. And so resilience is,

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like, so important. I said, the biggest thing for me to

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understand mindset was that entrepreneurship is like being in

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an explorer. You know where you are, you know where you

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wanna go, but you don't know what detours you're gonna have to take, you know,

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what what valleys you're gonna have to go around, what rivers you're gonna have

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to figure another you know, it it it's one of those things where you're constantly

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adapting and making adjustments. But I think that's where the creativity

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is. That's where the the learning happens.

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And and so my question, I guess, is because you help people become

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speakers. What is the what is the biggest mindset

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that they have that's holding them back?

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So first and foremost, I am not, I'm not a speaker

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coach. I'm a business coach for public speakers. So I am the one

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that actually wants them to get paid to speak, not the other way

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around. We all have a message and we all have a way of

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sharing that message. So let's get a couple of things out

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of the way. If if you have a message, if you have a

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message that you're passionate about, then it's the good message

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for every event out there. If you are passionate

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about anything, your message, then

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you're a good speaker too. It's the thing is that that

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that stops people is their the in the mindset world is

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that they have the imposter syndrome. Oh, why would I

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who would wanna pay me for this type of message? Who would wanna pay

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me? I've never been even on a stage before. Who would wanna pay

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me? I'm just starting out, or I don't have a book,

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or I don't have a this, and I don't have a that. I mean, they

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put so many things. It's like, why

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would you even do that? Because none of this matters if you

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only get out there and ask to to speak. Now

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funny story is that I in 02/2010, and I did not know

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this. Again, these are the things that show up when you show

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up for yourself. I was, I was speaking all over the world,

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and after my tour of seven countries, I ended up in Arlington,

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Texas. And while I was there in the break room for

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speakers, one of the three speakers came over to me, and one of them said

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to me, aren't you Orly Amor? I said, yeah. Do I know you? Sorry. I

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don't remember. And, they said, oh, no. We've never met before,

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but we've seen you on the circuit. And I said, oh, that's cool. Alright.

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So we started talking networking. As you know, networking is

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important in any business. We can talk about that more.

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But, after talking for about ten minutes, one of them said to me,

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listen. I'm just curious. How did you get this gig? So I said, well, I

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don't know. I called. I told them when I speak about. They paid me, and

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I'm here. They all looked at me like if I had three heads. You got

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paid? And I said, uh-oh. You

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guys didn't? They said, no. We got our expenses paid, but we didn't get

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paid. I said, well, no. I got paid, and I got my expenses paid. And

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they said, well, we wanna know how you did that. And jokingly, as you

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know my personality now, jokingly, I said, well, if I tell you,

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I'm gonna have to charge you. But just before I could say just kidding,

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they said, okay. Name your price. And I'm like, what? Oh, no. No. Hold

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on a second. I don't even know what I'm doing. I'm not even coaching. Hold

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on a second. So I was next to speak. So I said, I'll see you

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guys later. Let's exchange business cards, and I left. But I went immediately

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to see the event planner. And I said, listen. I think I just screwed

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up. I just told these three guys that I got paid to be here, and

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they didn't. She said, shh. You're the only one who got paid.

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And I said, oh, okay. Why? And she said, well,

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they didn't ask. And this brings me

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to a very important thing in life, in

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business, mindset. If you don't ask,

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how do you want people to give you what you need? If you

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don't ask, how do you wanna get clients? If you don't ask so it's not

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only about how can I support you? When I go to event to networking events,

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it's not about how can I support you? What do you need right now in

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your business that will change the course of your business

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immediately? The one thing. What is it?

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And and and and most people say, well, oh, I need more clients. Well,

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duh. We all need more clients. What is it that you need to

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get to those clients? What is the exposure? What is the

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networking or networks or groups or

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people you need to have in your sphere of influence to be able

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to get to those so called clients you need right now?

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So it's not just about mindset. It's about knowing what to

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ask for. Well, I and I think having the courage to

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ask is the mindset part. But here this is what I wanna do. You've given

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us some interesting nuggets, and I wanna at least make sure

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people are seeing it. So one is you need to ask for what you

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want. That's the first thing. Second of

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all, you need to to know that

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you are ahead of some people, and so

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there's always gonna be some people that that need to hear your

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message. Of course. You know? You know, I had someone say once,

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you know, there's a there's a you know, if you're looking at experts or

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whatever, you know, there's the ultimate category. And it used to be

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five living presidents. Now it's only four. You know, you're never gonna be in that

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group of of the living presidents. But there are plenty of people in

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your in your sphere that you are gonna be able to mentor and to

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help. The other thing is, I think, is to

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get clear on what you're passionate about so that you can be excited

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about either in your business or what you're speaking about.

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So it's, you know, it's authentic and it's what I mean, I just

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had I had a client the other day that she was like, I think I'm

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gonna go get a higher degree in something that was totally unrelated to her

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business. I'm like, okay. Let me pay devil's advocate.

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Why? Why are you doing this? Right?

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So do you have any other points that that that that the listeners

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can put to work right away before we talk about your your free gift? Because

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I wanna make sure we have time for that. The first thing I

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would say to everyone, and and really it does, It

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it doesn't matter at with what level you're playing because even if you're

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just starting out, it's about going out of your comfort

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zone. And a lot of people stay in that comfort zone

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wondering what could, should, will need to happen.

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And instead just taking that step. And in the act of sharing,

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there's contribution. Right? You just never know whose life you're going to

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change. So it whether it's yours or the people you serve. Because

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by learning, by getting out there, by getting out of your comfort zone,

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you might learn something that you can just share and pay it forward. And

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I love the pay it forward mantra because it gets

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away from any lack mentality. It gets away

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from any fear. It gets away from any

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doubt. You know? And you said it best. You said, just

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ask. Right? But even the Bible says it. You know? Ask

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and it shall be given. And even worse than that, I mean, met better than

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that, not worse, better than that is it has been given

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to you before you even asked. So if you believe,

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great. If you don't, universe, Allah,

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Buddha, I don't really care. It all comes down to

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energy. And if your energy is drabby and you're trying to

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have little things fix its that people do in their

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business because they think that one more thing will get them the

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big bucks or one more thing will get them the inference. And,

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unfortunately, they're spreading themselves so thin and

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in so many directions that they've lost even their own identity.

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And what I wanna share with you and your audience is that you need to

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bring that back to self, to have a good sit down

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with me, myself, and I and ask the right questions. What do I

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want? Who do I wanna be? And what do I wanna live as a

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legacy? Leave as a legacy. Mhmm. Because those are the reasons we are

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here, and that's our purpose. And that describes it all

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in a nutshell. And, you know, when when I do my workshop, one of the

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things I say is, you know, how do what do people say

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about you on your one hundredth birthday? Do they say you're energetic,

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that you were, you know, you're giving, you know, do your whatever? Or did

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they say, well, they work, you know, a hundred hours a week? I mean, that

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is not that's not the person that you wanna be. Right. You need to be

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remembered for. And so I think that that's that's that's really important.

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I I think I could talk to you forever. So did we so

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so so did we we we Here. So

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we still did we still didn't get to your your your gift.

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So I invite everybody to just get on my calendar. We put a

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calendar link, for you so that people can just get and

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chat with me about anything and everything, their business, their life.

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You know, I just love helping people, and I I truly

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am available. You know? So if it's not available on my calendar, put

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it as far as you want. But at the end of the day, get on

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my calendar. Let's talk about where you're at, what you're doing, what

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can I support you in, whether with my knowledge or

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my influence, whatever it is that I can do for people? Listen. We

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all started somewhere. So I hate it when people say, well, I

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don't have the time or or I don't wanna ask. I

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just want you to say yes. Just say yes to life,

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to this. This is my gift to you, and it was given be

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wholeheartedly. So take me up on it. So the thing

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that I wanted to tell you is, first of all, you need to understand how

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generous a gift this is. The second thing I wanna say

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to you is if you can't

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show up to get help, how are you gonna show up

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for your clients? I mean, I just a really simple example is how

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many times have there been you know, you're at a workshop or something like that,

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and 40 people have signed up and only three show up. Those

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three are gonna get maximum attention. You just have to raise your

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hand and show up. It's not necessarily the fastest,

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the smartest, the most, whatever. Right? It's

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the person that shows up. And I say that all the time

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to people, you know, because I was there. I would

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say, what do oh, this person is so much further along. What am I gonna

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say? I'm not ready. What you know, I don't have the right question. But if

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you show up, they will guide you because they know what you're

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going through. You don't have to prepare for it. You just have to

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be you, and they will help you. So, Orly, thank you so

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much. Last Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. No. No. Go

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ahead. Well, a part of my orly isms, I have a few, but one of

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my orly isms is those who show up go up.

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Oh, I like that. Simple. I like that. That's that simple. That doesn't show up

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go up. Those who show up for themselves, for others, they just go

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up because of their energy, because of their income, because

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of everything they're trying to accomplish. Just show up. I love

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that. I love that. Okay. So here's the weird question. When was the last time

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you did something new for the first time?

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That's a good one. Well, it's has to do

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with being an it was an ask, but I was so scared

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to ask. I have a foundation called

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youaremylight.org. We are building healing centers for rescue victims of

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human trafficking, sex, and labor slavery, so that we can give them back their God

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given right to life, freedom, education, and autonomy. But what I wanna say by

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that is that I was so afraid to ask to meet

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a couple of people that are very influential and that can

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help us get there faster or even open doors for

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us that I didn't say it. And the first time I

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did that was on the cruise I was just on, the marketers cruise. And I

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talked to this lady, and I was just surrounded by ladies where we were just

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talking about my foundation. And the lady in front of me

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knows the person I wanna meet

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personally. Like, she belongs to his mastermind, and she's like,

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I'm gonna make that connection for you. So that was a first for me.

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That was scary. At the same time, it was like, oh, who can help

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me with that? This guy is, like, traveling the world, and nobody can catch

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him even on a on an airplane. But but

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I that was a first. And I I gotta tell you, it

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surprised me, and I did it again on the same cruise, and somebody

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else mentioned a connection that I can like, it's just

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so beautiful when you ask. So I would say that was my first. It

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was scary. I'm telling you it was scary because I don't like sharing it as

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much as, as asking for things. I don't.

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You know, I wanna be fair enough. And and once you start doing

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it with asking with no expectations, you can do it more.

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Thank you so much. Thank you, Yvonne.

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No. Well, we're not finished quite yet because Okay. You gotta gotta

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do the commercial thing, you know? Okay. You do it.

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So if you've enjoyed this, I wanna make sure that you subscribe and

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share this with others. And the reason that I do this

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is it's a way for me to give back to what I want to be

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a vibrant community and help you to fuel your quest for growth and

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for impact. And, you know, we can't know everything, and so this is a

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way to bring in all kinds of people who have made small changes that have

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helped their business grow. So I hope you'll join me again on the one small

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change so that you can go through this. And if you haven't been to the

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first episodes you haven't been to the first episodes, I want you

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to take a look and, hear the first episodes

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and see what I'm trying to do, but also see who are there other people

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that are there that you can get some input from.

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Orly, what are your last words of wisdom? What we what you know?

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Besides the when you when you show up, you go up, which I love, what

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else have you got for us? Give us another one. So another,

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another one that I tell people because they wanna be perfect, especially for our

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perfectionists out there. Does a flower need to say that she's

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pretty? No.

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She just is. So be you.

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Do you. Be your own agent. Be your

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own trailblazer. Be your own stay in your own lane.

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You know? Because it those will those people, especially

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entrepreneurs who have a plan a and then they have a plan b and a

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plan c, what I tell people, and that's another Orleanism,

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if you have a plan a and a plan b, your plan b

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will become your plan a. Careful. Careful.

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Absolutely. Alright, people. It the time

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went way too fast, but I want you to remember that what I always say

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is the change is simple, but it's not always easy. It requires

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courage, resilience, and a willingness to step out of your comfort zone, and we

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talked about that today for sure. So I will hope you will continue to join

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me on the one small change as we embark on this journey. Until the

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next time, stay curious. Orly, thank you so

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much. Thank you for having me. Appreciate it.

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