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In this episode, Robb and Tina delve into the complexities of relationships, focusing on the often-debated topic of 'body count'—the number of sexual partners one has had. They reflect on their own experiences, the emotional weight of past relationships, and the importance of connection over numbers. The conversation emphasizes that the past should not define current relationships and that understanding and communication are key to navigating intimacy and emotional healing.

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Hey, welcome to another show don't get this twisted. I am Rob along with my co-host as always Tina. Hey, Tina

I'm good, Rob, how you doing?

pleasant as always. Pleasant as always. Yeah. You know, it's getting more and more difficult to remember that we've recorded shows. You know what I mean? Because I got to remember what we just talked about last week. let's before we. So last week we talked about how to how to handle women crying. So.

you

I'm digging this warmer weather for sure.

Hmm.

Yes.

Which I thought was another interesting show that we've done. The one with your ex-husband I thought was very well and it did well. So at least on the front end it's still playing and if you haven't listened to it go to listen to episode 230 it's really good.

Thank you. But that was a tough one.

Yeah, it was and you know kind of funny now that we did a show on how to handle women crying and there was a little teary eyes on both sides of the Microphone it was very interesting but I enjoyed it and I really enjoyed having someone on as well to bounce other things off of and Then I didn't have to talk as much So, we're definitely gonna do some more of that and I think it's fun because

Yeah.

Right?

me and you get to put somebody else under the microscope other than us. You know what I mean? Because we're always putting us.

Right?

Well, no, I still felt very much under the microscope on that one, but I'm glad you didn't.

No, no, no. I mean, generally, generally, we are always putting ourselves under the microscope. So it will it's nice to have someone else that we can kind of, you know, fraud and go, hey, give us your answer. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. No, that was good. It for me, it was like I said, it was healing because there's things that we don't talk about. And we hadn't talked about that. So it was it was interesting to even hear his answers and I didn't know exactly what he had gone through. So.

Mm-hmm.

learning experience for everybody. Yeah, for me it was very good because it was it was good to listen to people who had a long relationship and a good relationship to see what they did to make sure that there's some kind of niceness after that.

Yeah, it was a lot.

I mean, you guys have a great friendship, but you know, I've had things where I don't talk to people ever again, and I'm gonna do my best not to do that.

Yeah.

You know, my one of the things that I always think is, this a good person? Now, I'm not saying that they're a perfect person. I'm not saying that they that they have to live a perfect life or have whatever the hell it is that I'm glad they're don't because I'm not perfect and I don't want to be amongst those people. That's just too much bullshit for me to handle. But when I'm around good people, I have to stop and think like, what is what is it worth? Is it worth? You know,

putting up with a little bit here or there or is it not at all? Like and and truly I feel like in this situation with my ex he's he's always been a good person. I've always said that but

I think that...

Like, even though we went through a divorce, we did have to, we really worked on it. And I couldn't have done that if he wasn't a good person, so.

I mean, yeah, you came out the other end smelling pretty good. mean, yeah, I mean, truly, for most people who don't,

this.

Well, I shower every day. No, I'm kidding. No, I, yeah. That was the hardest thing in my life I've ever done was be nice to somebody I was losing or giving away or like getting rid of like there's a yeah, letting go, whatever, however you want to say it.

Mm-hmm.

letting go of. It's hard to let go of people. It just is. It's no matter your relationship, whether it's a friendship, romantic, it's hard to let go of people and let them live their own life. Hard, you know, regardless. Right, no, that's...

Yeah, it is and it isn't. I just got to the point where there was no way I could not do it.

Right, but you found a way to keep the good part of that and get rid of the bad. know, kind of, you sometimes, you know, there's always a good steak, but sometimes there's a little too much fat on the outside of it. You got to cut a little bit of that off. You know, not all of it, because you got to, you know, it keeps flavor. But too much of it is just too much to me. So.

Yeah, somehow.

Right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

This week, we're gonna talk about something I watch and I've said it a billion times. I probably need to stop. I watch way too many YouTube videos that pop up or TikToks of crazy women who say crazy shit. And it's probably my own fault because I click on one and then my algorithm changes. And now it just wants to give me psycho people, right? But one...

You know, the thing that comes up a lot with, I think, relationships, mostly men, I think, is body count. Which, for those who don't know, that's the New Age wording for how many people you've slept with. And a lot of these red pillar guys, which are like, you know...

Mmm.

They're part of the manosphere. They're guys who are really kind of dating and taking relationships with women and kind of putting them on the back burner and saying, you know, it's this and this is what I want. And if it's not it, I don't care. I'd rather be alone because men can be alone. So they say.

I think that there's something to that but not everything. None of us should be alone. I think that that's a recipe for disaster. Whether you have a shit ton of friends or not. listening to these people, body count always comes up. How many people they've slept with. But it mostly goes into marriage. I guess

You know, it should be going to your girlfriend or boyfriend, but the bottom line is, is how many people you've slept with is what you're worth in a marriage, which I don't necessarily believe that that's really what is important because look, you could have slept with five people and been a horrible human being.

Right?

Right? And you could have slept with 50 people and be a great person. And it doesn't really, you know, correlate to who you are as a human. Now, we're going to use the bell curve. And I think the bell curve is big, right? Where most people, if you've slept with between, you know, one and seven, which is the average for all of us.

Just so you know, between one and seven is the average of every human in the United States. If they're telling the truth, it's more. so the statistics that I found were between one and seven is what people say, but they say 40 % of the people lie. right, they're sexes. Both sexes lie about their numbers.

Okay.

they're lying about their numbers.

and it's 40 % that lie because at some point they asked another question, have you ever lied about your number? And they said, yes. So, right. So we kind of have to throw that kind of in into this conversation of people lie, right? Do I think it matters? It could matter, but there's a very big asterisk.

Good.

that has to go with that.

Because I guess it matters when you did it.

I

Right? Was it your high school days?

Oh, so if you were, okay, so say you're our age now and you were a whore when you were younger, you could say, like 85 % of that was in my 20s.

Of course, and I think that there's something to that.

Does anybody say that though?

No, no, no, but what I'm saying, I'm looking at the bigger scheme of things because we're all lying. So it doesn't matter. But if you would find out, you know, a lot of this happened from high school to college when we're all pretty rebellious, drink a lot, do drugs like, you know, the average of people, a lot of that happens during that time period. I'm not excusing being a whore.

Right?

Mmm.

care.

But what I'm saying is that I understand.

I did it when I didn't know better.

No, well, sort of. I mean, yeah, I mean, I hate to say it that way, but sure. Right. So there's a lot to be said to that. Men, I think most men in the statistics that I saw want less than seven.

That's funny.

Yeah.

Most men want a woman who's been with less than seven? Okay.

Correct. Some even less, which I think is pushing it for modern society, right? Mostly our generation.

Our parents are part of the hippie generation. Which was, you know, the 60s, free love, screw everybody, and it was great because there was no AIDS. What a great time to live. Right? Just, you know, then our generation came around and there was AIDS and that, I think, put a big kibosh on a lot of shit. It's scared to live in shit out of me.

Yeah.

Yeah. yeah.

That scared the crap out of me when I was growing up, I'll be honest.

Like I was like, you know, having sex and dying is not on the bingo card. Right? But I can see both sides. Like, here's the argument that they like to make. They like to make this argument, and we're gonna say this about young folks right now. They make the argument that, that,

Yeah.

Right?

being with a few people's good because it gives you experience in the bedroom. Okay.

Okay.

But if you're both a virgin, then it doesn't matter because you don't know what good sex is yet. So you could be in love, you could find somebody and have a great relationship and be fine. Right? That makes sense. think that there's... No, but I think that there's a small percentage that that could happen to.

I didn't go that route, but okay.

I think, so for me, if I had stayed with my, for the first person I ever had sex with, he ended up being gay, so that wouldn't have worked for me. you know what I mean? He, years and years later, came out that he was gay.

Right.

think that would have been good for me you know

Right. And again, I think that there's there's something to that. You're correct. But you know, but I think you're on you're on one side of the bell curve.

I mean...

Yeah, always. But I mean, he was really good for me, to me. We were very much in love at the time. I mean, it was, I couldn't have asked for a better first experience ever. But, yeah, I don't think staying with my first would have been a good idea.

Boom.

Yeah, me too.

I could, I couldn't have, she was much older than me at the time. no, but she, she was someone who was staying with her grandma in our apartment building. And at that point, you know, we all just kind of hung around the apartment building and I ended, I forgot, I don't even remember how I met her. could, can't even tell you, but, but I got plucked because she.

Was she a babysitter?

Tina M Garcia (13:18.81)

Yeah.

You got plucked.

I was young. I was 13 and she was 17.

Okay.

So, but from a sexual experience standpoint, it was the greatest thing in my life because she was very, very roadmappy. Well, just roadmappy too. Like, hey, touch me here, do this, do that. Like made it, yeah, like made it very comfortable. Like kind of talked everything down, like don't worry about it. You know, I understand, blah, blah, blah. Now to be fair too, I was a very large 13 year old.

knowledgeable.

Roadmappy.

So my best friend who was also 13 was four inches shorter than me. And we grew up to be the same height. So I was just big. I was tall. I was, you know, lanky. So I think a lot of it was just, looked older. I looked like an older person. But it was great. I can't say that it was a bad experience. I had some since then.

Hmm.

A lot of them while I, yeah, yeah. When I was younger, like I was just, I thought I was more than I was, but I was not very there. So you learn as you go. Like anything. It's gotta be hands on. So I think that there is something to, there is something to being with some number of people, right? Cause you, no one wants to like,

bad experiences or...

You know, pardon the pun, shit the bed while you're there. Right? You want, you want the experience to be pleasant for everyone involved. Yeah. Um, so I kind of understand certain things and I know while we were in high school, there were girls known for sleeping around. Right? So, so they haven't, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they probably have a pretty high number to this day.

Yeah.

and experience. Yeah.

Right? Yep.

Right? And I'm not even thinking of anyone, but I just, or, or they don't, because maybe they got out of high school and didn't go to college and started working and met somebody and the, you know, seven, eight people that they slept with in high school, that was it. So there is a lot to be said about your number doesn't really matter to a degree. Now, like I'm saying, if you're in the hundreds of people, like

I wouldn't even know.

more than a hundred? There's a problem.

Well, I think the problem is something psychological at that point, because that's a lot. It's a lot.

Right. And if you're if you were hoeing around in your 20s, you shouldn't be hoeing around in your 40s. Right, like you. You should have some kind of.

Something should change by then,

breaking system, right? I probably shouldn't be doing this because of this, this, and this. You know, look, no matter your age, you can still get a disease.

Yeah.

Yeah, very true.

And if you're jumping from bed to bed, you could get one.

Even if you're not jumping from bed to bed, there's so many things that like, could happen in just one incident with one person, you know, it's...

Right, exactly. If you sleep with the wrong person, you're done. So that being said, can understand that most people would want a lower number. Lower. I think if you're 50 and you say, let's say you've been married 10 years.

Yeah.

I'm going to use the example of 10 years because this is the best way of putting it. Because like. If you've been married 10 years of your. 50 year existence, you know to say that you've been with 15 people is probably not. Crazy.

Mm-hmm. I agree.

Now in all marriage when you started So like for me I started at 13 so like I I'm on one side of the bell curve that Generally doesn't happen right most guys generally I think the the starting age for most men I want to say is 17 years old and that's the average So I had a four-year head start

Yeah.

Okay. What's it for women, do you know?

What now? I could find out. Let's see, I think that it's probably similar.

So after you had sex initially, you have sex like shortly after with somebody else or how did it take a while?

No, yeah, was not, I'm gonna say something that's gonna sound very horrible. It wasn't seventh grade. I wanna say it was like eighth or ninth grade.

So it was a couple of years. And to be fair, this little thing that I had was only for a summer. So it was like only a couple of times.

Mmm.

Gotcha Now I was almost well I Was more than 16 and a half when I had sex for the first time And the only reason that we did it was because it was raining and we didn't go to a Halloween party Had we gone to the Halloween party, I don't think it would happen then

Yeah.

wow.

So the average for a girl is 17.2 years. So very similar, very similar.

Okay, so I'm a little under that. Yeah.

So we're both starting generally at the same time, right? 16, 17 years old is the average start date for at least Americans. So I think that there is, like I said, we can, I don't wanna get too crazy over the experience thing, because you could be with.

Yeah.

Four people when you're young and none of them have experience. You're just seeing if they do. And you really don't know for yourself what's good or bad until then. Right? If it's not a good mate, you could have four average mates and just think this is the greatest thing in the world. And then end up being with somebody that just fucking knocks your socks off.

you

Till the fourth time you've had sex or?

And then you're like, holy shit, this is this is the most amazing thing I've ever had. Right. I will tell you at 18, that's what happened for me.

God bless him.

What the hell? I've been missing this the whole time.

And you're welcome.

Right. I mean, I, this was a girl who was, I don't want to say too much, but she was a year younger than me, only by months. She was amazing. I remember her, because I was already out of school and not working yet, because I was still, had a little time off.

She was awesome.

I remember her coming to my door in a trench coat and opening it up and having like lingerie and garters and like, just opened her jacket up. I remember going, yes, you're coming inside. So, so I think that was like the first like crazy thing that got me on the wagon of like, like this is where you can have, you know, you're not just hopping on top of somebody. This is

Yep.

where it's a little more sensual and that route. And that lasted, I think, a year and something before she left. So you have to kind of average it out too. So if you say I've been with 30 people and that 30 people has been from 13 to 50, that's, you know,

40 years that's only one and a half people per year like there's all kinds of weird math problems you can put in to make you look really good or You can go well, I got to cut out ten years because I was married so then you have to take those ten years out and You know, then you start going fuck. was a whore like I was sleeping with whoever I could

I don't know that I've ever been asked what my body count is and I don't ask what anybody's body count is. I really I'd rather not know and I'd rather not tell. Yeah.

because it's smart. That is the smartest thing you can ever, if you're, here's my thing, with pretty much any advice or any questions, if you don't want to know the truth, don't ask. Okay? That's just, you know, if you, if you have an inkling that someone's done something, they probably have. Like you don't go up to people and go, have you ever killed anybody? Cause you don't want to hear the truth.

Don't ask. Yeah, that's exactly it.

He he he.

Because if they say yes, you're going to be like, you fucking what? Right. And you don't want to go up and go, well, you know, what's your body count? Have you been with more than 10 guys? And she goes, um, uh, then you're like 10, 10. Because there's Chris Rock does a fucking great skit on this. No number is correct for you. If you're in love with this girl.

Wait, what?

Can you quadruple that?

And she's the greatest thing since sliced bread with peanut butter on it. If she's been with more than four guys and your number is that, you're like, what a whore. Like this is horrible. Four? How could you be with four people? Look, you gotta look at the average. The average is seven. So anyone you look at right now think they've been with seven people. That's probably where they're at.

Robb (23:57.41)

on an average. They lie, so let's say 40 % lie, you're looking maybe 10. Okay, if they're 50 and they've been with 10 people, fuck, that's pretty good. Like, so, and look, people.

Yeah.

get into relationships and do crazy shit. Right? So, you you could be in a relationship where you're swingers.

So if you're in a relationship with somebody who's okay with swinging, you can't ask about body count. Yeah, and you can't bitch about it either. Like you can't be like, you now I think that if you're in that, like I would never, if I ended up getting with somebody that I know have slept with lots of people because I know their past, I would never ask how many. Why do I want to know? It doesn't matter. You're with me now.

Your numbers could go up really fast. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

But I just think that you have to be very, I don't want to say confident, but you have to know that who you are as a person matters more than how many people you've slept with. Like I care about the person. Like, okay, you slept with, you know, 26 people.

Right.

Are you gonna be good to me? Are you gonna be there when I need you? Are you gonna be, you know, are you gonna be a solid partner? Are you gonna cuddle me at night when I don't feel good? You know, whatever it is, whatever your, you know, whatever tickles your pickle. So to me, body count is kind of irrelevant. just, I don't see.

Wanting? Yeah.

Because I don't want to tell her how many people I've been with because my number might be too much for her. She's gonna go, wow, you've been with that many people. And you didn't do anything outside of your relationship? That's a lot of fucking, that's a big number. Like,

I don't I I've been asked what my number is I'm like, do you really want is that something you really need to know you want to know about my past to that degree? Because if you want to I'm not interested and I don't want to know yours either Then and I wouldn't care I would be like that and I was like that when I was it like three guys You know, I was like nobody needs to know my number because I remember that that my friends used to say

Right.

If a girl gives you a number times it by three, but if a guy gives you a number divided by two And so I was like that's I'm set up to fail no matter what number I say right now, you know, so If that's if that's what Everybody thinks I'm just not gonna say anything I'm like if you've known me my whole life. You'll know what the number is cuz

Well, yes.

I would agree with.

Yeah, because you've seen at least some of the guys that have been around or some of the girls that have been around. Yeah, if I've talked about five women, I've slept with at least five. You know what I mean? Like there's pretty common math with the exception if you're talking about dating someone new and then you know their number six because that's, you know, inevitably what's going to happen.

Right.

Right?

So for me, I think that there's a lot to be said about this magical number. think it's bullshit because it's a no-win situation. You can't win. You can't win with a man. None of us are telling the truth because no one wants to be a whore.

Yeah.

And no one's telling the truth if it's only been three because you don't want to tell some girl I've only been with three women and they're going to be like, boy, this is going to be a fucking rough ride because you know, you're not going to know what to do. So you're just you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. I think that this imaginary number that people are looking for is just that. It's imaginary.

Right?

Well, doesn't really mean anything.

Right, that's what I mean. It doesn't correlate to anything.

It's just nothing. I mean, it does not... If people have a tendency to cheat, I'd rather know that than know what their number is. If that makes sense.

Right.

But I don't care what their number is. I never did. But I was taught at a very early age, you don't ask questions like that. You just don't. So.

Yes. Yeah. Are you?

I think a lot of it too has to do with, like you said, if you're going to be utterly truthful with somebody, I would rather, like you said, ask them a question, have you ever cheated on anybody? Then have you slept with over 10 guys? It doesn't matter to me.

Yeah.

It just doesn't. I think that if you have a healthy sexual relationship with the person you're with, who cares? Because you could have been with, you know... Here's my thing. If it's a large, large number, do I want to know? For sure I don't want to. Because human psychology starts putting you into your own box. Right? Because if someone says, I've been with 150 men...

Yeah.

Yeah

for sure.

I'm gonna go fuck. Right? But, you know, it could also be said that you've been with a lot of people and...

hate to say they've told you you're the best that they've ever been with, but they might say that to you. So if they're saying it to pump you up, awesome. Probably gonna make your relationship even better. Or maybe they've told somebody else that you're the best they've ever been with. And you get it secondhand or firsthand. Like, I told this person that you were the best I've ever been with. That's a huge compliment. It's happened.

Right?

It is.

It's happened to me. It was the greatest when they said it to me. I was like, I'm sorry. They're like, yeah, you're the best person I've ever slept with. It's like, shit. Like, yeah, right. It's, fuck, hell yeah. I was fucking Superman that day. I was like, hell yeah. Like, and here's the thing. If no other woman I've been with has ever said that, it doesn't matter. One has.

Hey.

Woohoo! Did you put on your cape and like walk with your chest out a little bit more? That's right. Yes!

because you already got told.

Right, it, so, and here's the thing with the number nonsense. Like, I would rather go how many people have you slept with that you were in love with? Because that means way fucking more.

Hmm.

Because you can say I've been with 50 people, but I've only been in love with two. Those are the ones that matter. Because let me tell you. What trips you out?

You know it trips me out.

is when people say they've never been in love and they're our age. I'm like, what? What's wrong with you?

I-

A lot's wrong with me. I don't think I've ever been in. mean. Like. I. I would it matters when in my life. Like I don't I don't. Yes, but but the first kind of love is and I hate to say nonsense, but it's nonsense. Because we don't know what love is. Have you ever heard of the three kinds of love?

You were in love.

Ever. Ever. Have you ever been in love?

Yes.

It's awesome. The three kinds of love are like your first love is your first love. You don't know any better, but it's like everything's great and special. And then your second time you fall in love is like a good love, but it's the one that hurts you wholeheartedly. Like it fucking kills you.

And then your third love is the one that comes when you're not ready for it and and it's the one that you're just like wow like where have you been? And and and it works because you've already gone through all this shit beforehand and so Look, have I been in love? Yes, probably. I don't but I mean there's I don't know if I've I haven't been like

And I hate to say fairy tale love, but you know that kind of love I don't think I've ever been in with the exception of maybe my first love and that's but I was like 18 and like she could do no wrong and she could walk on water and it was this great thing because I was young and didn't know any better. So, but you know, I think most people have been in love. Some kind of love.

Because there's different kinds. I, you know, I don't know if I was in love with my ex-wife the way you're supposed to. Things fell into place at the time and they were like just certain things worked and we made a great kid. But I wouldn't say she was the love of my life. She was, you know, she was the love at the moment. And I know that's really rough to say, but there's people that I've had

Yeah.

relationships with that were just, you know, at the time were just amazing and maybe that they were love and maybe I don't know what real love is. That could also be a way of, you know, looking at it. it's a weird thing, like, because like,

Like we look at this, the number thing, like how many people have you slept with that you weren't in love with? For me, it's easy to say a lot. It's like, I wasn't in love with this person. wasn't, fuck I'd want two people. One person I knew and then one person I didn't even know who her name. To this day, I don't know her name. So, you know, and, it's sad if I would go back and write down names.

Mmm.

I would have to use like, you know, the tattooed girl or, you know, like this girl's friend, because that's because I don't know. And it's, you know, it's it's sad, actually. So. I. I was just going to say that I think that the people that you've slept with, that you've been in love with is your real number.

I don't... I'm sorry, go ahead.

because those are the people that you had a connection with, right? Because that's the best kind of a connection. When you have a connection with somebody that's just, no matter what you do, it's like, yeah, this is the person that makes me feel a certain way and...

Okay.

Right?

For sure.

Whether you're naked or not, you're in a relationship and there's something there. So the sex is kind of like the cherry on top of the sundae that's already there. Because the sundae is what you're there for. The cherry is just a great thing on top of it. So I don't know, maybe that's just my crazy hopeless romantic take on it that...

Mm-hmm.

I see that part where you're like, yeah, that's fucking great. Like, I wish this was, you know, it was this way or this way. So what is your take on the whole number? Like coming from a girl's point of view?

Yeah.

Well, I don't act like this typical girl the typical girl would say any number is too high Truly because I've heard it and that's you know, normally well he he slept around he was with this one and that one I don't pay attention to that to me it has to do with are you a good person and are you gonna be good to me? because if you're gonna be good to me and And I don't have to deal with your past like I don't care, you know We're at an age where it's like you should know how to

you

how to act and if you don't want to act that way that's cool but you're not going to be around me. But numbers I don't know I kind of like somebody that's got a little experience and I'll do something that shocks me so there's that too. And if you talk about just just the people that you've been in love with.

That's an easy number. mean, I don't, to be honest with you, in all the years that I've been alive, I couldn't tell you what my exact number is because there was a couple of one-nighters in there and I don't know. But...

Yeah.

Yeah.

And nor do I care, like, what do you gotta keep a list for? What's in your past is in your past.

I've

Right. I know because my number's not significantly large. So like, I can write them down, even though I don't know the names of some people. So, but I think all in all,

Yeah.

Well, could too if I sat and thought about it for a minute, but...

Yeah. And like I said, you might have to nickname a few of them because like, I don't know. I don't know the person. But in the end, I look at the people who mean the most to me and there's a much smaller number of the people who mean something to me. So I would say that my list is very small comparatively to the people who don't mean something to me.

I just don't want to.

Mm-hmm.

So I would say my final verdict is it's just bullshit. You know, it's just, it's nonsense. No one's going to, it's not gonna mean anything.

Well, it's kind of like it's it's kind of like when women get mad at the men they're with for porn, you know what I mean? It's like, who cares if they're home and they're not screwing around on you like leave them alone. I mean, maybe not 20 hours a day should they be looking at it. I'm you know, that's a bit excessive. But what what is the big deal? I don't I just don't see the big deal.

Right.

Right. I mean, I get it.

I just think that you have to look at the reality of the situation of most people that your number isn't going to mean anything five years from now. So what does it matter? You know what I mean? It's just not.

Well.

I don't want to go to a party in here. I don't want to go to a party in here. I've been with this one and that one. I don't want to do that. You know, you go to that party on your own and stay there. I don't know. don't really. Rob, if you hadn't noticed, there's so much shit that I don't care about. This is probably just one of those things that I just, it's not important.

Right, which is great. think that for most people should feel your way. It's a healthier way to think. It doesn't matter. You're with me now. That's all that matters. That's all I care about. And if anyone can get anything from this, take that kind of thinking.

Yeah.

If you're coming home every night, you're not fucking around on your mate, they're there for you, and you're having regular sexual adventures, you've won. You know what I mean? It's just a number. Yeah, and just so you know, the last number is generally the best one.

Be happy. Yeah, you won. Yeah.

You know what I mean? mean, the only thing that I'll say that I find kind of humorous in this is, yeah, I had someone ask me that if you sleep with them again, do they get a new number?

Right. One would hope.

No.

And I was like, well, no, you don't get a new number. you're, and I'm going to say this in a nice way and I don't really mean it, but like your rating goes up. It's like a Yelp review, right? Like your Yelp review from the past, you you might've got, you know, four stars, but now you got five because life has made us all better. But

It doesn't matter, you know, you don't get a new number. So if you if you've ever slept with somebody again. You don't get one. Right. Yeah, exactly. You get a you get a a plus one or, know, some kind of like, you know, yeah, revisited. This happened again. And again, I'll tell you. I will tell you, I'll tell you wholeheartedly because I've done it.

No, you just get revisited next to your name. That's all.

Yeah

Check, check.

It's much better the second time around.

I'll take your word on that.

It just is because you've grown up. I'm talking about if you and I'm not talking about you slept with them two years ago. I'm saying you slept with them five, eight, 10 years ago where we've just matured. You're different human beings. for the people out there, if you ever end up revisiting someone you've slept with,

it generally gets much better.

Good to know,

saying. Any last words on this unslippery slope podcast because both of us really don't give a two shits.

Yeah, I would say this is too much shit to have to deal with, so... You would be best to just not ask.

Yeah, 100 % don't ask, don't tell. It's much easier. Live the life that you... Right, you're never gonna get the real number anyway. You're just not. And it doesn't fucking matter. Go be happy with the person you're with. Really, you know, it's much easier to just say, hey, I'm with this really great person and, you know.

And if everybody's lying anyway...

Yeah. That's funny. It doesn't. Agreed.

And if here's the other thing, if someone would come to me later, if I was with somebody and they would be like, you know, she was a whore. I'd go, okay. Like. Yeah, you know, yeah, you know, she can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. you know what I mean? A golf ball through 30 foot of garden hosts. so at the end of the day, none of this shit matters.

I'm grateful for her knowledge.

Hey.

Be with the person you're with, enjoy their company. Don't ask them how many people they've been with because in the end, you're either gonna ruin a relationship and there's no reason to ruin it when it's good in the present.

And remember that ignorance is bliss. You don't need to know what somebody did before they met you. Why would you want to? Doesn't make sense to me. Yeah.

That's a point. Yep, totally agree. Unless they were a murderer. I think that that's, if you've been in prison, you should probably tell somebody, because it'll come out later on.

Well, even then it comes with.

Possibly, yeah. It is public knowledge.

Yeah, pretty much. That's correct. Something will happen. Yeah, your betting of men and women is not common knowledge. You can't look that up on the internet.

I have a friend that says it's not a crime to be a whore.

True, very true. If that's your thing, like here's my other thing about being a whore, either side. No, no, but because if men sleep with 200 women, they're fucking heroes. If women do it, they're whores. At the end of the day, if you're doing it safely and not hurting anyone's mental condition, have at it. I will tell you from the people I've known that have high, high body counts,

Yeah.

It fucks with your own mental state. So you, you know, just don't hurt other human beings and don't give them diseases and have at it, you know? You know, fuck like rabbits. Just no babies and no diseases. So you can listen to this show on any podcasting thing and let me tell you people.

Condoms are your friend.

Lots of people have been listening. It's super awesome. Keep subscribing and keep sharing because we're getting new people in states that we have had someone in the past. Like we have a very, very good listener in Tennessee and you know her.

Mm-hmm.

And she listens to every podcast matter of fact, she messaged me personally on my Instagram when they had a really bad snowstorm and she said, Hey, just so you know, we're back up and running. I'm going to listen to the show today. Literally send me a message. So I totally appreciate it, but now there's other people in Tennessee listening and I don't think they live close to her, but it's cool that like things are happening. So.

Yeah.

You

Nice.

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