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To have sovereign money, we must have sovereign education.  In today’s episode, we explore sovereign education in Alaska with bitcoin homeschoolers, Wade and Tami.  They are breaking the misconception you can’t homeschool if both parents work.  They have also taken the initiative to organize the 2025 Bitcoin Alaska conference.  So much proof of work!  Check out their story.

IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN:

• Homebridge is one of three options for parents in Juneau, Alaska
• During the pandemic, Wade and Tami witnessed how poorly the school system was being run
• A second factor that led to homeschooling was a first-hand experience from political agendas being pushed in public schools
• Start homeschooling with kids as young as possible
• Wad and Tami do not let their younger children have unsupervised access to digital devices
• Psychosis is being actively allowed and taught in public schools
• An elementary school had a “coming out transgender” party for an eight year old without the knowledge of the kids’ parents
• Their kids are more diverse in terms of being able to socialize with other ages than their public school counterparts
• Every state is different and the Alaska constitution mandates a robust public school system
• Homebridge was established during COVID
• It includes a physical location staffed by a teacher
• Kids in the program have access to the public school library, sports and classes
• Parents also get payments to be used on other activities, e.g., karate, ceramics, swimming, online classes, photography,
• Offering topics outside of what public schools offer is a huge upside to homeschooling
• Opened the door for dual-income families to still homeschool
• Geographic arbitrage is how Wade described the ability to move to other states … in the long term, parents can vote with their feet
• Their kids have been exposed to Bitcoin and even ask to get chore money in bitcoin instead of fiat
• Society (thanks to fiat indoctrination) drastically underestimates when kids can learn new material 
• Wade is a Mi Primer Bitcoin light node and teaches their diploma at their local Juneau meetup
• Alaskan natives are very proud of being sovereign people
• What “sovereign education” really means
• One of the hardest things that challenged Wade and Tami was the stigma of what “homeschooling” means, especially when both parents work
• There’s a huge lobby from the education union to push kids back into school because they’re losing funds
• The swamp to include the government, NGO’s, unions, other special interests are going to fight harder than ever to protect their gravy train.  Parents must stand up for their rights.  The statists do not care about what is best for the child, nor what is the most effective and efficient method of education.  They care only about keeping power and control.
• To win the big battle we must remove the money.  That’s the only way long term to win.  The education infinite game.
• We all have different roles to play in the short and long term games.

 RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE SHOW:

• Twitter @BitcoinAlaska
• Twitter @AlaskaBTC
• Homebridge, https://homebridge.juneauschools.org
• Girls on the Run, https://www.girlsontherun.org
• Homeschool Defense League, https://hslda.org
• Mi Primer Bitcoin “Diploma”, https://myfirstbitcoin.io/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/English-BD-2024.pdf
• Kahn Academy, https://www.khanacademy.org
• Bitcoin Alaska conference, https://bitcoinalaska.org

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So I think we should just start with the

if you guys could just tell us I almost

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wore that same sweatshirt, by the way I I

swear I was wearing that one earlier wade.

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Yeah, i'm completely

distracted In bitcoin veterans.

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It's a great sweatshirt Um, if we

could start with Who you guys are.

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You guys introduce yourselves and

then we'll just, we'll, we'll just

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start asking you questions from there.

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I'm Wade Hook.

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Bitcoin and veteran Alaska and me,

Premier Bitcoin and Light Node.

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Um, we homeschool our kids here in Alaska.

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I'll let Tammy introduce herself

and then, uh, Yeah, I'm Tammy Brown.

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Uh, different names, but that's okay.

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Well, I've lived in Alaska for 26 years.

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I have two older children.

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And then, wait, I have the two

younger children and we've been

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homeschooling Tristan and Sena

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well, since 2020.

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Actually since 20, the end of

20, the school year of 2019.

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Technically because the schools

here closed down in February.

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School doesn't.

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End up here in Alaska until May So we

were homeschooling through the last end of

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that and then put them through the actual

homeschool program The following school

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year and have been going strong ever

since through the home bridge homeschool

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program here in alaska here in juneau

So, how did you So you're the one that

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brought homeschooling and said hey wade.

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We should do this Were you the

one that was kind of homeschooled

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first We kind of agreed to do it.

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We were seeing how poorly run

the education system was because

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of the pandemic and how the

kids were not allowed in school.

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They would spend like 15 minutes a

day on the zoom class meetings and

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our kids were just screwing off.

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They weren't getting an education.

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They weren't doing anything.

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And so we decided even before that

school year ended that we're not doing

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this next year because it's ridiculous.

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There's really no other.

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way to put how the school

systems were run during the

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pandemic, other than ridiculous.

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And do I understand, you know, this

was something that happened and we

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had no way to, to factor this in.

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Yeah, I understand that.

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But I didn't think that my children,

our children were going to get a good

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education the following school year

going through public school system.

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There was no way.

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Could only handle so much with the kids

putting masks on so they could be on

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zoom calls to, to get an education.

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Yeah.

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They were required to put

a mask on to go on Zoom.

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No, but it was a That would be really bad.

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Yeah, it was definitely a signal.

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The next year we noticed that the kids

going to public school weren't going

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to school half the time anyway because

the school was closed down because

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somebody may have tested positive for

COVID or whatever during that time.

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Yeah, that was the big one.

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That was, that was the big one.

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It's like, how can you send your

kid to school and not know whether

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or not you're going to have to take

the next two weeks off work because

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the kid pops positive for COVID.

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And so, so how can you function like that

knowing that you can't maintain a job

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is you're bouncing in and out your kids

bouncing in and out of school because

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somebody in a classroom pops positive.

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So, that was the, the

end all be all for me.

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Yeah, and, and at the time, Wade

and I were both working from home.

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The state of Alaska kind of, as an

employer, they kind of shut down.

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Everybody was working from home.

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So I was like, I'm home anyway.

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Why don't, why don't we just homeschool?

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So we did.

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And I think with, with Sena at the time,

Sena was first grade when COVID hit.

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So she was second grade the

full year she went through

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Homebridge, the homeschool system.

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She was second grade.

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And that was, that was interesting.

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Tristan was going through fourth

grade and he was, everything he

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was doing was on the computer.

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But Senna starting out was in workbooks.

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And so what, what you are asking

is, is what would I advise other

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parents, you know, starting out?

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I think it's important to start

out with your smaller children.

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working on those basic fundamentals, the

reading, the writing, and the mathematics.

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And I think that's very

important to do at home on paper.

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But there is also some aspects of working

on a computer, because let's face it,

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computers are where we're at right now.

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Computers is where we're going to learn

how to maneuver through our society.

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It's also, you know, we have smartphones

and And we have, you know, if we're

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going to be moving into Bitcoin

and teaching this to our kids, they

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have to be electronically sound.

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And I think that's very important

to teach them at an early age.

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And I don't mean three and four year olds.

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Our kids don't have cell phones.

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Our little ones don't.

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They're not allowed to be on electronics

unless they're monitored, even at, you

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know, 11, almost 12 and 13, almost 14.

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They don't have free access to

electronics without being monitored

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by us because it's just not smart.

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It's not good for their brain function.

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They lose the aspect of,

of learning on their own.

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And, you know, smartphones have made us

ultimately, in my opinion, smartphones

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have made us ultimately dumber.

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Um, I could tell you how many,

how many phone numbers of my best

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friends growing up in high school

or growing up in middle school.

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I could just spout off to you real quick.

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I couldn't tell you my adult son's

phone number or my adult daughter's

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phone number because I don't need to.

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I have a smartphone.

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It does that for me.

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So these phones are making us less

intelligent and more dependent upon them.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I have two, two threads

to pull on for you.

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So the first one is the pandemic's over.

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You're still homeschooling.

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So the first question that I have is what

has been your experience where, what,

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what have you gone through going through

the COVID and now you've come out of

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it, you, there's something that made you

decide we're going to stay with this.

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So what was that decision process?

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Like the decision was made Wade and I

both decided we talked about a lot of

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things that were going on politically.

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And, and ultimately the level of

education that the children are receiving

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in public school and the politics

surrounding the education nationally,

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the education program are the two things

that, that Wade and I decided we were

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just going to homeschool our kids.

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The homeschooling curriculum We

got to choose which curriculum

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our children got to go through.

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Were they going to go through

something super easy where they're

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not going to be challenged?

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Are they going to go through something

where they're going to be moderately

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challenged and can learn something?

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Are they going to go through something

that's really going to challenge them

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and make them truly learn something?

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So we were able to choose which

curriculum the kids were learning.

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And we chose at first to go through one

curriculum that was very, very difficult.

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It was very stringent and had a lot of

hands on, uh, parental grading processes.

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And then we decided to kind of dial it

back a little bit and go through one

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that's, that's a little easier, but

ultimately it was, it was what the schools

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here were teaching, which is just trash.

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It's just garbage.

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It's not worth it.

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the kids being able to go through

because it's not challenging and

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they're not really truly learning

anything and the political stance.

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So a little bit, I'd like to add

on that political just a bit.

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Um, not too long ago, one of our son's

friends, um, was going to a haunted

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house and he asked if he could have

permission to go to this haunted house

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with his friends, father and son.

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So, On the way out there, they realized

that the haunted house wasn't taking

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place that weekend, so rather than

taking a left, they took a right and

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ended up out of this kid's house.

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Well, after a while of our son and his

friend playing games in a game room,

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the other, son, um, got very upset

and disappeared for a long time and

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then had a breakdown, just meltdown.

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So the police, uh, ended up coming

to the home and brought our son home.

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And, and the police officer stated

that this child, his grandfather

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was there and his grandfather had

a medical emergency, all untrue.

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Grandfather doesn't even live in the

house, but because of the grandfather's,

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medical emergency, the son, uh,

needed to go to, um, the hospital.

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So the officer, police officer

decided to give our son a ride home.

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So what, what was, what we ended up

finding out was this son wasn't really

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a son, it was a daughter, and um, this

son played soccer with our son's friend.

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Nobody knew this boy was actually a

girl, and including our son's mother.

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Our son's friend's mother.

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So she had been allowing her son

to sleep over at this girl's house.

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And this girl had been coming in

his room and knew exactly what

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she was doing with her body parts.

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So, uh, it is complicated, but when

our son's friend's mother contacted the

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father and said, you need, why didn't

you let us know that you had a daughter?

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His response was, well, you didn't ask.

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So, she had no idea that her teenage son

was staying the night with this teenage

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girl, and they had been sleeping together.

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It's just, um, And when, when he,

when she stated your daughter,

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the father corrected her and said,

no, my son, no, no, she knows what

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she's doing with her body parts.

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This is not your son.

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Um, I'm sorry.

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So these are the things that we have to

endure as parents these days, where this

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girl is playing in boys soccer and leading

everybody to believe that she's a, and

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then there's all those other questions.

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Like now she's having a breakdown because.

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Our son's, our son's friend is giving,

his, him more attention than her.

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So she has a meltdown because

she's got an, an incorrect view of

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reality and has to go to Bartlett

hospital to deal with her trauma.

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And then the question comes up, well,

is this, is our son's friend gay?

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No, because this was a girl or the

question of, what if she gets angry and

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calls this rape that's been going on?

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So these are things that are, you

know, make me afraid for my children.

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Do I want to have my children

participate in, and this is

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something that really happened to us.

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And we're very protective.

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When you unleash them on the school

system, the school districts, and they let

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this altered reality, you know, explode.

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Like, I don't want our children

to have any contact with that.

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We, we ensure that our friends don't

participate in those mind games.

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And take advantage of our children.

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Wow.

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In a nutshell, that's kind of why we don't

let our children go to public school.

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That's why we continue to go to school.

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You want to have control over that, um,

protect them from some of the Psychosis?

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Yeah, I mean the indoctrination that's

really going on and where the state wants

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to control the Yeah, I call it what it is.

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It's psychosis.

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If you actually look at Merriam

Webster's definition of psychosis, it's

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believing that something isn't there.

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For example, people who hear voices in

their head, they call that psychosis.

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You are on a plane and somebody

starts getting sick and then everybody

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on the plane starts getting sick.

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That's mass psychosis.

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What is going on right now is,

is a country with mass psychosis.

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They are believing that they can our

children are being taught and and

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believing that they can be if you are

genetically born a boy That you can't

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change to be a girl or vice versa If

you are genetically born a girl that

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you can't change to become a boy and

they are teaching that and allowing

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that in our school systems two years

ago in 2020 no school year of 2022 to

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2023 the elementary school You that

our children would have been going to.

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They had a massive party for an eight

year old who has these, who had at

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the time decided that they were now,

instead of being a boy, they were

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a girl, and they had a coming out

transgendered party at the school

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without the parents knowing about it.

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I don't want my children to be in I

don't want them to be subjected to that.

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Mm-hmm . It's pretty, it's pretty scary.

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Yeah.

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What, um, what, what has been

the experience been like then?

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This is, this is for Tristan then, right?

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Um mm-hmm . In terms of being involved

in activities and being, he's going

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at some point going to be interacting

with people who are still maybe old

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friends that are in public school.

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So how did, yeah.

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So that's a, I mean, he's got

a, that's a lot to process.

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It's one thing to say, Hey,

we're going to homeschool.

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It's another thing to say, well, they

still have to be able to interact.

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Right.

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He has friends that he plays with.

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Um, we're more recently, one of the

local gyms where he takes karate has

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decided that there was a gentleman who

was in the locker room who decided that

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he was getting looked at oddly when

he was putting on his dress after, you

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know, and They allowed him to start

using the women's locker room and that

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caused a backlash in the community.

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But, you know, if my children who

are minors are going to that gym

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and they're using that locker room

for karate, that's not allowable.

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Like I will not allow, I will not subject

my children to going into a locker

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room with an adult of the opposite

gender because they feel uncomfortable.

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So the gym decided to have, you know,

unisex restrooms that they could, their

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locker room where they can change it.

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But I don't think that'll be enough

because, which, which begs the

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question, what is the agenda of the

individual to begin with to go into

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the alternate genders locker room?

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Like, will, will they become

upset because they can't be

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in the locker room with them?

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People of the opposite sex.

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But to more directly answer

the question, what do we do?

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For socialization, our children

are in a karate class that takes

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place two days a week, Tuesdays

and Thursdays, for two hours.

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The karate class, it's not

your, your normal karate class.

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They, they have less students, but

they have more diverse students.

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It's not just children, it's children

and adults, but they have an age cutoff.

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So the youngest you can be in

there without having an older

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sibling is eight years old.

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So they have, they have that interaction.

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Tristan also is involved pretty heavily

in his boy scouts, the local boy scouts.

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Here in Juneau, his particular

troop is led by a former Marine.

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So we're, we're pretty, we're

pretty positive that he's going

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to have, and we know he's going

to have a good experience there.

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He's been.

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in that social group for

a couple of months now.

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He's gone camping.

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He's done a couple of different other

social events, done the popcorn.

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But you know, one thing that I,

I have found that with the, the

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homeschooling is, is the socialization.

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You have to get the kids

into those social groups.

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For a while we had a pod, a homeschooling

pod that was teaching here in Juneau

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just a couple blocks away where

there were other children of all

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different ages that you could go there.

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The unfortunate part of that is

our homeschooling allotment did

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not assist with the payments and

the payments were pretty hefty.

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So we decided to, to no longer

have them as part of the pod,

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but we're still friends with the

people that we met in the pod.

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So they still have, have

that, that social connection.

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Yeah.

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And I'm finding that our children are

a little bit more diverse with the

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age groups that they can associate

with because of being homeschooled.

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You know, Senna is one of her, her good

friends is now Senna's 11, almost 12.

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And one of her good

friends just turned nine.

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So she's able to associate with

younger girls and still have that,

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that female connection with them.

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But she also has a set of twins who

are 12 who, so they're about six

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or eight months older than Senna.

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And then she has another little friend

who she met from the homeschooling

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pod who just turned nine, literally

like last Sunday, just turned nine.

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You And they come over and they have

spend the nights with each other.

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And they do, you know, all

kinds of really fun girl things.

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But I think with homeschooling, if

you're going to have new kids, it's

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important that you get them out into

the socialization, because that's

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a huge part of going to public

school, is that socialization.

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Learning how to open up.

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Make a friend, be a friend, keep a friend

and how to talk to people and how to

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associate not how to This is my way.

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I'm going to do it this way and this

is how we're going to play but learning

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how to Be able to communicate with

your friends and play Interactively

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and sometimes we do it my way.

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Sometimes we do it your way And

sometimes we play what I want to play and

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sometimes we play what you want to play.

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Yeah, you'll and oh, Sorry,

I thought you were done.

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Go ahead I was going to say, and,

and, and one of the things that

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I've tried to get Senate into is,

is a group called Girls on the Run

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that is open to not just homeschool

children, but also public school girls.

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And it's just for girls.

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There's just girls in it because

it's all about being mentored

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by the running team leader.

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And the running team leader is usually

somebody who's part of our Rotary Club.

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So not only are they being introduced

to female camaraderie, but it's also,

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you know, part of the rotary and

you're in a group of girls that range

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from five years old to 18 who are

in school of some manner of fashion.

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And then you're running Nate, your,

your team leader for the running.

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Yeah.

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I, I think that, I mean, it's

critical where you're talking

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about being exposed to other ages,

our experience with our kids.

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Cause ours are.

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Are older now because they're 17 to 22

Is that because they were with tolly

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all the time they were interacting with

adults They were interacting with kids.

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They were of all ages that they can hold a

conversation with just about anybody in a

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very courteous manner a very mature manner

and I my opinion is that public schools.

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It's very unnatural That you put kids only

with other kids of the same age and The,

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the idea that socialization is a problem

with homeschooling is exactly opposite.

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That's my opinion.

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I think it actually, they do harm

to the kids by, by doing that.

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But I mean, let's, I would like to go

a little bit on the, the Alaska and

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how you guys chose your curriculum.

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Because one of the things that I

find really interesting is you, this

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whole Homebridge program, it, it

seems to me that, that Alaska is a

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Just an awesome place to homeschool.

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It just feels that the

support you have to, to go.

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And then Wade, later, I'll ask

you about sovereign education.

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Cause I know that's a phrase you

like, but, um, so can you just

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help the help others understand,

we didn't know about it, that just

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the, the, the way the homeschooling

works, every state is different.

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Can you guys touch on that?

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Because I think it's a,

it's a really cool thing.

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And if I could take the lead.

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So, Alaska constitutionally, um, the

Alaska Constitution states that we'll

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have a robust public school system.

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So, it's mandatory that the

state will provide it, no matter

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what, um, federal decisions come

about regarding, uh, education.

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So, um, the public school system's

not going away in this state.

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The, uh, but during COVID, they

couldn't figure out how to, um, Help

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people with the homeschooling process.

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And I think that's when

Home Bridge was constructed.

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Maybe it's been around a while, but

the, but the way it works is you're

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given an allotment as a parent per

child, to, um, decide on your own

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curriculum and you have a bridge home.

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Bridge your bridge to the public school

system so I can homeschool my kids.

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But they still have access to the um,

school library, or school sports, or just,

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they can take a class in the school, they

can show up for a fifth period, and take

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whatever class is offered in the school,

whereas they're still homeschooling.

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So, you end up with this

uh, hybrid education system.

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And while you do that,

you can also get paid.

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You can also pay for a training outside

of the normal school curriculum be it

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If they want to go skiing in the winter

time that can be part of their pe class

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so they can get season passes Or karate's

covered or boy scout expenses not the

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gear, but the you know, the expense of

boy scouts can be covered Maybe a local

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gym um karate uh swimming ceramics at a

local pottery um store or Or be it, you

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know what we've been talking about with

education and um Uh, Austrian economics.

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So it opens the door to, you can

still have the socialization, but not

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mandatorily go to the full curriculum

in the school you are abridged in that

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regard, most of the people are either

more one than the other being that

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if you're involved in home bridge,

you're going to be homeschooling more

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than you might go for, you know, to

be on the swim team or something,

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but it really opens the door for.

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Me as a parent to say, Hey, um, this

gentleman, um, with this photography

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company would like to teach photography

and I can pay him through the school

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to teach our child photography.

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And, and therefore we get to focus the

education that our child receives based

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off of what we believe their interests

are rather than the limitations that

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the kids have in the public school.

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Like these are your three options.

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Instead, these are all of your options.

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You know, your 14 year old wants

to learn auto mechanics, but

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there's no auto mechanics course.

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Well, why don't they go work with

a local mechanic and learn basic

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automotive at a shop that wants to

do a two hour class in the evenings?

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You can do that.

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That's so cool.

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I wish, I wish we would have had

something to help us with that.

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When we lived in Iowa, there was

something, I guess, a little bit similar.

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So Homeschoolers got half of the

stipend that public school kids

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did, but they didn't give it

back to the families themselves.

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They pooled the resources together, and

then they, they built a community center

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for homeschoolers, a library, and all the

activities took place in that building.

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And any homeschooler can go

and sign up for any class.

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And, but we didn't get the stipend.

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To receive the money and do it elsewhere.

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It had to be at their center But it's

something similar like we're paying

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we're paying tax dollars anyway And it

was so painful to have to pay everything

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out of pocket When we see our public

school You know friends who just get

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like receive resources, you know Well,

they yeah it you're paying for that.

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We're all paying for that and then

they're they're controlling they're

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giving it to you They're doing a

poor job of what they are teaching.

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And then you have all the other

stuff we just talked about.

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So it's, it's like salt in the

wound, but every state can do it.

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And so what's, what's motivating

is people standing up.

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And I think the, the idea that the

homeschooling movement is increasing

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should put more pressure on the, the

state and local types of educational

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systems, depending on where you are.

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To pursue those types of options.

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I think the longterm solution is just

to take away all their money and that

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the parents just keep the money and

decide for themselves where it goes.

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But short of that, if they're going

to take it anyways, in terms of

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property taxes or other things, I

think it's better to have it, at

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least some of it go back to those who

can, who can decide best what to do.

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Um, Yeah.

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So I think it's pretty cool.

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You guys, I mean, photography, karate,

swimming, you guys have already

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00:25:38,569 --> 00:25:41,879

named some of the, the things that

you're working into your curriculum

411

00:25:42,259 --> 00:25:47,579

that may not be part of a normal

public school type of curriculum.

412

00:25:47,779 --> 00:25:49,689

And I think that's one

of the huge upsides too.

413

00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:56,239

Well, I mean, the other thing also is

there's a, I believe very arbitrary age

414

00:25:56,239 --> 00:25:58,459

requirement for a lot of these topics.

415

00:25:58,509 --> 00:26:02,049

So when I was going through

school, economics wasn't wasn't

416

00:26:02,049 --> 00:26:04,959

even an option until you were a

junior or senior in high school.

417

00:26:05,659 --> 00:26:09,439

Whereas if you feel like your child

is ready to learn about it, you

418

00:26:09,439 --> 00:26:10,779

can start that in middle school.

419

00:26:10,989 --> 00:26:15,959

So the parents get to gauge when the child

is ready, not an arbitrary age system.

420

00:26:16,539 --> 00:26:21,019

And I think that's huge because

you, if you see a child who's

421

00:26:21,069 --> 00:26:27,219

able to start economic training or

lessons from middle school, imagine

422

00:26:27,219 --> 00:26:29,899

what they're able to understand by

the time they're in high school.

423

00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:34,829

Versus just starting as a beginner

then because somebody dictated

424

00:26:34,839 --> 00:26:40,299

that that's the only time they're

ready for it, you know How are you?

425

00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:43,269

How are you teaching the the

money concepts and Bitcoin?

426

00:26:45,659 --> 00:26:49,779

Just kind of because you're both bit

corners, right you guys go to conferences

427

00:26:49,779 --> 00:26:53,849

and for that for the audience just so

you know They're very very active We're

428

00:26:53,849 --> 00:26:54,919

gonna get into this a little bit later.

429

00:26:54,919 --> 00:26:55,889

But mm hmm.

430

00:26:55,939 --> 00:26:57,649

Yeah, how do you guys

teach money in Bitcoin?

431

00:27:00,254 --> 00:27:06,334

Tristan just kind of He's absorbed a

lot via the meetups that we have and

432

00:27:06,544 --> 00:27:08,474

just one on one discussions with him.

433

00:27:08,474 --> 00:27:09,994

So so he gets it

434

00:27:12,264 --> 00:27:15,274

Senna she gets it a little bit

better I think because she'll ask

435

00:27:15,274 --> 00:27:18,244

us to put her money She'll go shovel

driveways and give us her cash

436

00:27:18,244 --> 00:27:19,714

and say put this in the Bitcoin.

437

00:27:19,714 --> 00:27:28,104

Oh nice When she she puts it above

candy at the corner store Yes, so uh

438

00:27:29,094 --> 00:27:34,744

They haven't had any formal education

yet, but enduring 15 people who are

439

00:27:34,774 --> 00:27:40,314

Bitcoiners here at the house, and having

conversations routinely, and enduring

440

00:27:40,314 --> 00:27:45,924

the, the content, be it Rustin with

Simply, or, um, you know, watching

441

00:27:45,924 --> 00:27:51,574

Sailor videos, eventually some, you know,

it breaks through even a small child.

442

00:27:51,834 --> 00:27:57,674

On the note of what Talia said, the, uh,

The fact that I just, I just thought of

443

00:27:57,674 --> 00:28:02,404

a question like, so if kids aren't able

to earn, learn economics until junior

444

00:28:02,404 --> 00:28:06,654

or senior year, maybe that has to do

with the fact that you have to have an

445

00:28:06,664 --> 00:28:11,204

understanding of algebra to understand

the denominator that exists in the modern,

446

00:28:11,254 --> 00:28:17,424

modern monetary theory, because it's

a variable rather than a fixed number.

447

00:28:17,424 --> 00:28:18,554

That's the denominator.

448

00:28:18,784 --> 00:28:20,204

I don't just, that comes to mind.

449

00:28:20,924 --> 00:28:24,214

I think they decide they like to make

it more complicated than it needs to

450

00:28:24,214 --> 00:28:29,264

be because then you or everyone become

more reliant on the quote unquote

451

00:28:29,294 --> 00:28:31,674

experts to tell them what's going on.

452

00:28:31,714 --> 00:28:31,944

Right?

453

00:28:31,944 --> 00:28:35,854

So Paul Krugman tells you that

the economy is really good, even

454

00:28:35,854 --> 00:28:38,174

though you can't pay for your

groceries or the heat for your house.

455

00:28:38,384 --> 00:28:38,684

Right?

456

00:28:38,694 --> 00:28:44,374

So, um, I think it's, I think

we drastically overcomplicate

457

00:28:44,374 --> 00:28:47,164

what economics is, which is

why I love Austrian economics.

458

00:28:47,824 --> 00:28:49,554

And the second thing to Tali's point.

459

00:28:50,234 --> 00:28:56,414

We, as a society, we have these, these

ideas that kids can't learn things until

460

00:28:56,414 --> 00:28:58,264

a certain age, and that's not true.

461

00:28:58,454 --> 00:29:00,304

Kids can learn an amazing amount.

462

00:29:01,194 --> 00:29:02,704

They, they actually like to learn.

463

00:29:03,504 --> 00:29:06,694

And if you expose it to them,

they will pick it up really fast.

464

00:29:06,704 --> 00:29:07,054

At least that's.

465

00:29:08,424 --> 00:29:09,879

, that's what we've experienced.

466

00:29:10,739 --> 00:29:13,464

And you can teach a 6-year-old

Spanish real easily.

467

00:29:13,944 --> 00:29:16,794

Mm-hmm . Why can't you

teach 'em economics, right?

468

00:29:16,794 --> 00:29:16,795

Yeah.

469

00:29:16,854 --> 00:29:17,244

You can.

470

00:29:17,304 --> 00:29:19,134

Or at least the basics of, right?

471

00:29:19,494 --> 00:29:19,614

Yeah.

472

00:29:19,614 --> 00:29:19,854

Right.

473

00:29:20,064 --> 00:29:23,724

So, uh, and you, and you guys bring

your kids to conferences, right?

474

00:29:24,204 --> 00:29:26,784

You guys, uh, did they, didn't

they come out to Nashville and

475

00:29:26,784 --> 00:29:27,804

you have the whole gang out there?

476

00:29:28,659 --> 00:29:30,259

My older, my two older children.

477

00:29:30,259 --> 00:29:35,719

Well, my older daughter And her husband

came out to the nashville, but no the kids

478

00:29:35,719 --> 00:29:44,559

were left at home Uh well cared for While

we were gone my older son who's 28 He

479

00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:49,399

was here as a backup and we had a friend

staying with them The whole time we were

480

00:29:49,489 --> 00:29:51,109

gone, but no the littles didn't come out.

481

00:29:51,109 --> 00:29:54,119

They didn't come out for that But

they're going to your meetups and they're

482

00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:59,979

certainly hearing mom and dad talk

about things You And do they do so, so

483

00:29:59,979 --> 00:30:04,689

Wade, you, you participate in the meet

premier Bitcoin as a, you're a full

484

00:30:04,689 --> 00:30:07,259

node or you can sort of a light node.

485

00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:07,669

Okay.

486

00:30:08,249 --> 00:30:15,109

So like the 11th light node, one of the

earlier ones, but, um, being with all

487

00:30:15,109 --> 00:30:20,149

the activities, um, Bitcoin veterans and

everything we did in Nashville and then

488

00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:22,809

the, uh, event this year, this next year.

489

00:30:22,819 --> 00:30:22,839

Yeah.

490

00:30:23,979 --> 00:30:27,749

I've been lacking with that, but at

the same time, we're still holding

491

00:30:27,749 --> 00:30:30,729

meetups here in Juneau and I still

teach the curriculum here locally.

492

00:30:31,229 --> 00:30:33,619

So we still utilize the content.

493

00:30:33,629 --> 00:30:37,499

Well, I've initially, when I became

a light note, I had version one of

494

00:30:37,509 --> 00:30:41,229

the textbooks printed up and I've got

a whole, a couple of boxes of them.

495

00:30:41,789 --> 00:30:45,589

And then, uh, we just pass those out to

people, you know, who are curious and,

496

00:30:45,849 --> 00:30:49,549

and don't really want to come to a meetup

or we utilize those textbooks there.

497

00:30:49,649 --> 00:30:51,894

I spent the extra money

and got hardback books.

498

00:30:52,204 --> 00:30:53,614

So they're, they're durable.

499

00:30:55,074 --> 00:30:58,734

And, uh, we'll just go over

them in classes here or

500

00:30:58,734 --> 00:30:59,584

you don't have the content.

501

00:30:59,584 --> 00:31:00,914

So, right.

502

00:31:00,984 --> 00:31:02,154

Your kids are watching though.

503

00:31:02,174 --> 00:31:07,004

They, even if you don't put the diploma

in their hands and say, read this,

504

00:31:07,254 --> 00:31:08,804

they're seeing where you put your time.

505

00:31:08,804 --> 00:31:14,054

They're probably hearing some of your

conversations on podcasts or video

506

00:31:14,054 --> 00:31:18,674

that you're watching, you know, they,

they know they're going to pick up

507

00:31:18,674 --> 00:31:20,554

on what mom and dad are working on.

508

00:31:21,154 --> 00:31:23,514

So, all right, wait, I gotta put

you on the spot a little bit.

509

00:31:23,604 --> 00:31:28,084

So, uh, you used a phrase the other

day, uh, we were talking about

510

00:31:28,624 --> 00:31:31,244

the Alaska, Bitcoin conference.

511

00:31:31,604 --> 00:31:34,444

That, uh, I assume that's,

that's out in the, in the wild

512

00:31:34,444 --> 00:31:35,534

and everybody can know about it.

513

00:31:35,534 --> 00:31:37,344

So, uh, if not, we'll cut that out.

514

00:31:38,504 --> 00:31:43,504

But, um, used a phrase, uh, sovereign, we

were talking about sovereign education.

515

00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:48,089

And, and so, um, what

does that mean to you?

516

00:31:48,239 --> 00:31:52,199

Like, cause as a Bitcoiner and

a homeschooler, I constantly am

517

00:31:52,229 --> 00:31:53,289

thinking of all these things.

518

00:31:53,289 --> 00:31:55,529

I didn't use that phrase before we talked.

519

00:31:56,349 --> 00:31:59,149

Um, but what does it,

what does it mean to you?

520

00:31:59,419 --> 00:32:00,289

What does that phrase mean?

521

00:32:00,289 --> 00:32:04,809

The, the idea, the idea behind it

was initially, I have friends here

522

00:32:04,809 --> 00:32:08,489

in Alaska who are native Alaskan

and they're very proud people.

523

00:32:09,289 --> 00:32:12,299

And trying to get them involved

in the Bitcoin movement.

524

00:32:12,299 --> 00:32:13,399

So they understand it better.

525

00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:17,289

They, they express that they're

sovereign people all the time.

526

00:32:17,349 --> 00:32:20,439

Everything they do is they are a

sovereign people, but they don't

527

00:32:20,449 --> 00:32:23,909

realize that under the current

financial system, they're not sovereign.

528

00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:25,119

They're not a sovereign individual.

529

00:32:25,149 --> 00:32:28,269

They, they are just, they're incorporated.

530

00:32:28,979 --> 00:32:30,369

They, they play fiat games.

531

00:32:30,369 --> 00:32:31,569

They have a fiat mindset.

532

00:32:31,889 --> 00:32:33,589

They get benefits from

the federal government.

533

00:32:33,589 --> 00:32:34,609

That's the money printer.

534

00:32:35,114 --> 00:32:38,514

So it's hard for them because they receive

benefits from the money printer directly.

535

00:32:38,514 --> 00:32:40,664

They don't have control

over the financial life.

536

00:32:40,665 --> 00:32:44,874

Now, um, same can be said

for sovereign education.

537

00:32:45,054 --> 00:32:49,104

If you are under the umbrella of

the public school system, are you a

538

00:32:49,124 --> 00:32:52,874

sovereign, um, are you providing a

sovereign education to your children?

539

00:32:53,944 --> 00:32:54,469

To be.

540

00:32:55,659 --> 00:33:00,379

A sovereign education to me would be

where the parents get to choose and, you

541

00:33:00,379 --> 00:33:04,309

know, also get the input of the child

to figure out what their needs are for

542

00:33:04,309 --> 00:33:06,529

education and what their interests are.

543

00:33:07,239 --> 00:33:09,929

Trying to force something down

a kid's throat that they're

544

00:33:09,929 --> 00:33:10,919

not ready to learn yet.

545

00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:13,689

Um, when they're ready to learn

something else, you're just missing

546

00:33:13,689 --> 00:33:17,799

an opportunity by trying to force feed

something that they don't like when

547

00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:19,359

they have an opportunity elsewhere.

548

00:33:19,849 --> 00:33:22,719

So sovereign education is just

empowering the parents to decide

549

00:33:22,719 --> 00:33:25,519

on the education, the direction

of the education of the child.

550

00:33:26,479 --> 00:33:27,649

Yeah, I love it.

551

00:33:28,499 --> 00:33:31,989

We'll add it to our phrases

like self custody education and

552

00:33:31,999 --> 00:33:33,319

separation of education and stay.

553

00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:34,649

We're going to put that

one right up there.

554

00:33:34,779 --> 00:33:35,219

Sovereign.

555

00:33:36,694 --> 00:33:40,814

I'm going to ask a question for

parents who are still just considering

556

00:33:40,824 --> 00:33:44,674

homeschooling and a little bit

intimidated by the entire process.

557

00:33:45,104 --> 00:33:49,944

What would you say was the hardest

challenge you had to overcome over

558

00:33:49,944 --> 00:33:51,774

the last four years homeschooling?

559

00:33:51,775 --> 00:33:57,334

The stigma of homeschooling versus

sending the children to public school.

560

00:33:58,569 --> 00:34:03,709

Honestly, I mean, for me, as, as a

full time working parent, because I

561

00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:05,609

work full time outside of the home.

562

00:34:06,669 --> 00:34:08,978

Wade works full time outside of the home.

563

00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:11,129

And yet we homeschool our children.

564

00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:12,438

How?

565

00:34:12,728 --> 00:34:16,059

We're not home, but we are.

566

00:34:17,018 --> 00:34:20,809

We're able to do this because of the

type of curriculums that we've chosen.

567

00:34:21,498 --> 00:34:25,589

We've chosen curriculums

that are online videos.

568

00:34:26,529 --> 00:34:30,529

That great as you go, if the

children have questions, they

569

00:34:30,539 --> 00:34:34,779

have the ability to contact their

homeschooling teacher, which while

570

00:34:34,779 --> 00:34:37,389

it's me in this case, wouldn't be me.

571

00:34:37,438 --> 00:34:43,079

They have open access to go to the

home bridge, actual physical site.

572

00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:46,739

And because we live like three blocks

away from that particular school,

573

00:34:47,149 --> 00:34:49,879

they can walk there, they can ride

their bikes there, they can go

574

00:34:49,889 --> 00:34:51,978

together, they can go individually.

575

00:34:53,293 --> 00:34:56,244

But they can go, and they don't

have to have an appointment.

576

00:34:56,534 --> 00:35:00,004

They can go to the Homebridge site

and they can say, Hey, because

577

00:35:00,004 --> 00:35:01,154

they all know who the kids are.

578

00:35:01,284 --> 00:35:04,604

They're like, Hey, we need to, we

have some help on, we need some help

579

00:35:04,604 --> 00:35:06,364

on this particular subject with this.

580

00:35:06,674 --> 00:35:08,554

They've got their laptops

in their backpacks.

581

00:35:08,734 --> 00:35:10,144

They sit down with the teacher.

582

00:35:10,434 --> 00:35:14,244

The teacher can plug them in, access

the internet, and the teacher there

583

00:35:14,244 --> 00:35:15,944

can actually physically help them.

584

00:35:16,489 --> 00:35:21,459

That's what I love about Alaska at least

Southeast Alaska's home bridge program

585

00:35:21,919 --> 00:35:28,749

is while it is homeschool, they still

have the ability to go to the site and

586

00:35:28,789 --> 00:35:30,869

ask for that help and get those tutoring.

587

00:35:31,099 --> 00:35:33,139

They do tutoring at the public libraries.

588

00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:37,889

We have three, they have a downtown

library, they have a library in

589

00:35:37,889 --> 00:35:40,479

Douglas and they have a library in

the valley, which is where we live.

590

00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:43,169

And if they need some special tutoring.

591

00:35:43,789 --> 00:35:48,389

They can go to the library and

do the tutoring there as well.

592

00:35:49,069 --> 00:35:51,549

They also do game days and chess days.

593

00:35:52,189 --> 00:35:57,829

So it was just mostly the stigma of

homeschooling being working parents.

594

00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:03,369

To expand on that, some states also have

a mandatory or minimum age where you can

595

00:36:03,369 --> 00:36:04,729

leave your children at home and attend it.

596

00:36:05,229 --> 00:36:06,259

Alaska doesn't have that.

597

00:36:06,309 --> 00:36:06,499

No.

598

00:36:06,799 --> 00:36:10,559

If you leave your child at home and the

house burns down, yeah, you're going to

599

00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:15,089

get a a citation of some sort, you know,

Office of Children's Services is going to

600

00:36:15,089 --> 00:36:17,159

come with some pretty intense questions.

601

00:36:17,749 --> 00:36:21,499

Um, if you are a responsible parent

with responsible children, you have

602

00:36:21,499 --> 00:36:23,739

more latitude if you trust them.

603

00:36:24,379 --> 00:36:26,019

Fortunately, we trust our children.

604

00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:29,349

We also have a home video system

that covers pretty much the

605

00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:31,699

entire house, so we can dial in.

606

00:36:32,244 --> 00:36:36,174

We have a home phone landline, so

they're not exposed electronically,

607

00:36:36,174 --> 00:36:38,314

but they have a means of

reaching out if there's an issue.

608

00:36:38,954 --> 00:36:42,264

And if the phone goes out, we can reach

them by screaming through the camera

609

00:36:42,264 --> 00:36:45,864

system or setting off a siren remotely.

610

00:36:46,734 --> 00:36:50,924

So they do their

schoolwork during the day.

611

00:36:51,454 --> 00:36:54,134

And then when we come home at

night, sometimes it can be a task.

612

00:36:54,134 --> 00:36:57,174

And if we have to go over their

homework and, and have those difficult

613

00:36:57,174 --> 00:37:01,074

conversations that where the children

aren't doing their homework, but.

614

00:37:01,624 --> 00:37:06,334

Also, the benefit, one of the benefits

of this is, with the curriculum they're

615

00:37:06,334 --> 00:37:11,084

currently in, if they don't do all of

the assignment, it gets reassigned.

616

00:37:11,694 --> 00:37:14,134

So there are no zeros

in the school system.

617

00:37:14,144 --> 00:37:18,234

There are no lazy, I don't like that

project, I don't like that assignment.

618

00:37:19,024 --> 00:37:22,784

Um, I, I, I had a few of those in

high school where I just didn't

619

00:37:22,784 --> 00:37:24,164

want to do the assignment, you know.

620

00:37:25,004 --> 00:37:27,494

Um, but they don't have that

latitude, so they actually have

621

00:37:27,494 --> 00:37:28,344

to work through the problem.

622

00:37:29,744 --> 00:37:36,724

I love that you literally just broke

that expectation of you must be a one

623

00:37:36,734 --> 00:37:38,434

income family in order to homeschool.

624

00:37:38,504 --> 00:37:41,074

You have to have a full time mom

at home in order to homeschool.

625

00:37:41,144 --> 00:37:44,514

And you just explained that away

beautifully, that it's possible.

626

00:37:44,914 --> 00:37:47,964

Now some people might say,

well, I live in a state where I

627

00:37:47,964 --> 00:37:49,204

don't have that kind of support.

628

00:37:49,374 --> 00:37:53,004

My kids can't go down

the block and get help.

629

00:37:53,564 --> 00:37:55,584

What would you say to those people?

630

00:37:57,514 --> 00:37:59,904

Uh, lobby your government.

631

00:38:00,734 --> 00:38:02,904

Um, there's, there's not a lot of options.

632

00:38:02,904 --> 00:38:05,684

You have to find somebody in

that case to watch your children.

633

00:38:06,564 --> 00:38:09,064

If we were in Arkansas,

I think the age is 14.

634

00:38:09,204 --> 00:38:10,524

We couldn't do this.

635

00:38:10,994 --> 00:38:15,784

Um, and, and in the home homes in

the, uh, sorry, the Bitcoin world, we

636

00:38:15,784 --> 00:38:17,624

always talk about location arbitrage.

637

00:38:17,754 --> 00:38:17,994

Yes.

638

00:38:18,999 --> 00:38:22,119

The reason maybe you should consider

relocating to a different state that's

639

00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:26,229

friendlier towards homeschooling parents

But with the financial system, the only

640

00:38:26,229 --> 00:38:32,169

reason that two incomes are required

to support um to allow people to have

641

00:38:32,309 --> 00:38:38,389

a sovereign education is due to the

fact we have inflation and Pretty soon.

642

00:38:38,389 --> 00:38:40,739

It's gonna we're gonna have

to have multi family homes.

643

00:38:40,869 --> 00:38:41,289

Mm hmm.

644

00:38:41,439 --> 00:38:43,819

Oh To support the home.

645

00:38:44,099 --> 00:38:48,679

Yeah, so So you have to break

the paradise somehow Oh, I like

646

00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:49,789

the I like what you said though.

647

00:38:49,789 --> 00:38:55,939

I you you So we've talked to people

who were in germany where it's illegal

648

00:38:55,939 --> 00:39:00,609

and they just they voted with their

feet and they They moved Within the

649

00:39:00,609 --> 00:39:06,709

united states it is we have much more

flexibility In terms of that it's it's

650

00:39:06,709 --> 00:39:10,409

easier I'm, not saying it's easy to

find a job I'm, not going to say that

651

00:39:10,439 --> 00:39:13,589

because it depends your circumstance

that can actually be pretty challenging.

652

00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:17,814

However Comparatively to

other places in the world.

653

00:39:17,824 --> 00:39:22,594

If you want to move to one state or away

from another state, you can do that.

654

00:39:23,194 --> 00:39:27,124

I mean, people already, they're already

leaving the, you know, the, the, the

655

00:39:27,124 --> 00:39:31,554

coast and they're going to places like

Tennessee and, and, and, and Texas.

656

00:39:32,034 --> 00:39:36,154

And then even within a state, you can,

one county or another might be different.

657

00:39:37,014 --> 00:39:41,774

And so if you are working

remotely, man, now.

658

00:39:42,329 --> 00:39:43,069

The world's your oyster.

659

00:39:43,069 --> 00:39:45,689

You can kind of, you kind of

pick and choose where you go.

660

00:39:45,689 --> 00:39:48,249

So I think that's a long term play.

661

00:39:48,849 --> 00:39:51,929

The, uh, the other thing that I'll tell

you about my mind is you can still,

662

00:39:52,889 --> 00:39:56,779

even if you were in a circumstance

where you had to, your kids still

663

00:39:56,779 --> 00:39:58,789

have to go to public school, you

still have them at night, you still

664

00:39:58,799 --> 00:40:01,269

have them on the weekends, you still

have them when you're driving to and

665

00:40:01,279 --> 00:40:06,099

from sports events and drama events

and whatever and whatever else.

666

00:40:06,109 --> 00:40:10,569

And so it's, it's a matter of

as best you can to be present.

667

00:40:11,474 --> 00:40:12,904

Uh, with, with them, and so.

668

00:40:12,904 --> 00:40:19,874

Also I want to say that it varies, the

regulations vary hugely state by state.

669

00:40:19,964 --> 00:40:23,994

So we live in Kentucky, and

it's not as strict as Ohio,

670

00:40:23,994 --> 00:40:25,634

which is a bordering state.

671

00:40:26,264 --> 00:40:29,234

But Indiana is even more relaxed

than Kentucky, and they're

672

00:40:29,244 --> 00:40:31,064

also a bordering state to Ohio.

673

00:40:31,364 --> 00:40:35,714

So in terms of just the law about

letting your kids be on their own

674

00:40:35,714 --> 00:40:39,994

at home, we had a neighbor years

ago who got in trouble because.

675

00:40:40,549 --> 00:40:41,559

Her son was sick.

676

00:40:41,569 --> 00:40:44,959

She drove into the pharmacy before the

time of the drive through, you know,

677

00:40:44,959 --> 00:40:48,869

which we have every single pharmacy has it

now, but not before, not a long time ago.

678

00:40:49,439 --> 00:40:52,349

Anyway, she got in trouble because she

left her son who was not feeling well

679

00:40:52,349 --> 00:40:56,069

in the car while she went in and got

the medicine and somebody called the

680

00:40:56,069 --> 00:41:01,389

police and she had to go to court to

explain why she left her son in the car.

681

00:41:02,179 --> 00:41:03,179

And he was nine years old.

682

00:41:03,229 --> 00:41:07,059

And you know, you have those kinds

of situations where she's like, Oh my

683

00:41:07,059 --> 00:41:08,699

God, I can't ever leave them alone.

684

00:41:08,709 --> 00:41:13,029

You know, it's It's this whole

assumption of kids are completely

685

00:41:13,399 --> 00:41:17,729

defenseless and parents are ultimately

responsible for absolutely everything.

686

00:41:18,219 --> 00:41:19,289

Well, it's a control thing too.

687

00:41:19,299 --> 00:41:20,359

It is a control thing.

688

00:41:20,359 --> 00:41:26,059

And Ohio also requires that, um, that the

school system, either your child takes

689

00:41:26,059 --> 00:41:31,419

a standardized test or the portfolio has

to be reviewed by a licensed teacher in

690

00:41:31,429 --> 00:41:32,939

order for you to continue to homeschool.

691

00:41:33,444 --> 00:41:34,754

So that's Ohio state thing.

692

00:41:34,764 --> 00:41:39,214

So if somebody is thinking about

homeschooling and you're wondering what

693

00:41:39,214 --> 00:41:44,344

your choices are in terms, if you're

willing to relocate, uh, the best place

694

00:41:44,354 --> 00:41:49,204

I can think of to go to is the homeschool

defense league website, which we'll

695

00:41:49,204 --> 00:41:54,104

put in the show notes and just click

around and just see how the states vary

696

00:41:54,114 --> 00:41:58,954

in the regulations before you decide

what your, all of your options are.

697

00:41:59,104 --> 00:41:59,394

Right.

698

00:41:59,764 --> 00:42:01,744

But I think it's a really

important thing to consider.

699

00:42:02,529 --> 00:42:05,699

If you feel like you're, you have

to take a certain job because of

700

00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:10,479

the circumstances, but it's a, this

is a low time preference thing,

701

00:42:10,739 --> 00:42:12,269

deciding where you're going to live.

702

00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:14,869

Maybe you can't change that in one

year, but you could probably change

703

00:42:14,869 --> 00:42:17,459

that in two years or three years.

704

00:42:17,509 --> 00:42:18,949

And kids are very resilient.

705

00:42:19,739 --> 00:42:23,339

And so I think this,

uh, what'd you call it?

706

00:42:23,340 --> 00:42:26,969

Geographic arbitrage is that,

uh, is that what you said?

707

00:42:27,879 --> 00:42:30,859

Um, I think that's a, that's a real.

708

00:42:31,179 --> 00:42:32,529

That's a real thing to consider.

709

00:42:32,869 --> 00:42:37,889

Um, if the parents are in sync with

each other, that's, that's great.

710

00:42:37,929 --> 00:42:41,779

If you, uh, disagree about moving

because you're close to family or

711

00:42:41,779 --> 00:42:45,219

there's some other circumstance

that could get complicated.

712

00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:48,389

Uh, so I'm not trying to say it's

easy, but it is, it is an option.

713

00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:51,709

I guess it's a matter of

what your priorities are.

714

00:42:51,709 --> 00:42:55,789

If, if my priority is, you

know, out fishing halibut, I'm

715

00:42:55,789 --> 00:42:57,359

not going to move to Arizona.

716

00:42:57,709 --> 00:43:01,949

So, so every product applies

to every aspect of your life.

717

00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:07,089

It just, if education's up there towards

the top for your children, um, you

718

00:43:07,089 --> 00:43:13,559

probably don't want to be in a heavily

indoctrinated socialist style school

719

00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:15,379

system that doesn't allow for competition.

720

00:43:15,569 --> 00:43:16,469

Right, right.

721

00:43:17,539 --> 00:43:18,659

So I have a question.

722

00:43:18,659 --> 00:43:23,909

This is you, do you guys intend to then

do the whole, the homeschooling all

723

00:43:23,909 --> 00:43:26,479

the way through the high school years?

724

00:43:28,414 --> 00:43:29,224

We're open.

725

00:43:29,424 --> 00:43:33,914

Um, it depends on what the future

of the education system is.

726

00:43:33,964 --> 00:43:38,844

If, if the public school system here

continues to go down the route that it has

727

00:43:38,844 --> 00:43:44,854

been going regarding, um, circumstances

or issues that we don't allow for,

728

00:43:45,054 --> 00:43:46,784

that we're not going to participate in.

729

00:43:46,794 --> 00:43:49,114

Yes, we'll homeschool throughout.

730

00:43:49,424 --> 00:43:54,574

If they decide that maybe they made

some mistakes and they're willing

731

00:43:54,574 --> 00:43:56,114

to roll back some of their policies.

732

00:43:56,464 --> 00:44:01,244

and inform parents of the things that

they're doing with their children

733

00:44:01,244 --> 00:44:03,654

at the schools, then we consider it.

734

00:44:04,424 --> 00:44:09,554

And, you know, I, I don't know where, what

the future holds, but I do believe that

735

00:44:09,554 --> 00:44:14,574

there may be possibilities coming where,

where parents will have, will, where

736

00:44:14,574 --> 00:44:19,054

parents will be recognized as parents

again, because right now they're not.

737

00:44:19,144 --> 00:44:22,584

The parent has a constitutional right

to their children, The school system

738

00:44:22,584 --> 00:44:26,644

does not have a constitutional right to

your children Legislators don't have a

739

00:44:26,644 --> 00:44:28,014

constitutional right to their children.

740

00:44:28,484 --> 00:44:34,604

They will They may yell about These

are not your children But these are

741

00:44:34,604 --> 00:44:39,094

your children and and no matter what

they might scream from a podium.

742

00:44:39,494 --> 00:44:49,664

So I guess it depends on where we go

politically Yeah The hope is that the

743

00:44:49,994 --> 00:44:54,304

more of the funds will be given from the

federal government to the state and the

744

00:44:54,304 --> 00:44:59,774

state will be able to Will be able to

drive the education through the state

745

00:45:00,074 --> 00:45:02,784

versus having these national standards.

746

00:45:02,864 --> 00:45:03,304

Mm hmm.

747

00:45:03,504 --> 00:45:08,884

Oh, yeah Yeah, so the the the program that

is that we talked about at first the home

748

00:45:08,884 --> 00:45:12,439

Ridge that That's going to stay there.

749

00:45:12,479 --> 00:45:16,629

Is there any risk politically that they

they try to pull that now that it's

750

00:45:16,899 --> 00:45:24,229

post Pandemic or there is the um, they

tried to Put the kibosh on that last

751

00:45:24,229 --> 00:45:32,656

year through the legislature they uh the

issue was The funds can't be utilized

752

00:45:32,656 --> 00:45:40,359

for um Forget exactly what the What

the issue was, but they tried to quash

753

00:45:40,369 --> 00:45:47,844

it and it they fortunately they failed

but it had to do with Especially if

754

00:45:47,854 --> 00:45:51,424

you are sending your kid to anything

that might have anything having to

755

00:45:51,424 --> 00:45:53,664

do with some faith based education.

756

00:45:54,084 --> 00:45:58,724

Um, you, they, well, okay, going

down all the weeds a little bit.

757

00:45:58,804 --> 00:46:02,994

So, I wanted to enroll the

kids in a private school system

758

00:46:02,994 --> 00:46:04,624

that is here local to Juneau.

759

00:46:05,044 --> 00:46:08,794

And it's faith based, but that's the

only private school option there is.

760

00:46:09,384 --> 00:46:13,969

So, I wanted to utilize Homebridge

funds for that, but the school

761

00:46:13,969 --> 00:46:15,599

district refused to allow for that.

762

00:46:15,619 --> 00:46:19,579

So I did some research and found that

Love, wait no, sorry, it was a case

763

00:46:19,579 --> 00:46:27,529

in Maine, I believe, where the, the

school system was disallowed from, it

764

00:46:27,529 --> 00:46:30,749

just went all the way to the Supreme

Court, was disallowed from regulating

765

00:46:30,809 --> 00:46:36,859

funds going to a faith based school, um,

based off of, um, it being religious.

766

00:46:37,399 --> 00:46:43,439

So, Since they lost, I contacted the, uh,

er, er, since, um, the school district

767

00:46:43,439 --> 00:46:48,599

lost, I was able to reach out to the,

uh, Assistant Attorney General here

768

00:46:48,599 --> 00:46:53,859

in Alaska and asked if they were going

to recognize, you know, this school as

769

00:46:53,859 --> 00:46:58,509

being allowable to receive funds through

Homebridge, because Homebridge had already

770

00:46:58,509 --> 00:46:59,909

told me that they would not allow for it.

771

00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:05,249

They said yes, they, they, they

see the decision as absolute, and,

772

00:47:05,329 --> 00:47:09,944

you know, their stance is that This

um, religious school, faith based

773

00:47:09,944 --> 00:47:11,284

school should be able to get funds.

774

00:47:11,804 --> 00:47:15,074

So I reached back out to, I reached out

to the department education commissioner.

775

00:47:15,474 --> 00:47:16,144

Just go with it.

776

00:47:16,854 --> 00:47:18,544

They won't even have the conversation.

777

00:47:18,544 --> 00:47:19,664

They won't allow for the funding.

778

00:47:19,674 --> 00:47:24,004

They just, they don't recognize

what the assistant attorney general

779

00:47:24,004 --> 00:47:25,754

for the state of Alaska stands is.

780

00:47:26,414 --> 00:47:26,784

So.

781

00:47:26,784 --> 00:47:27,164

It's.

782

00:47:27,794 --> 00:47:29,304

And then now with the, uh.

783

00:47:30,224 --> 00:47:33,114

They want to move all the

funds back from homeschool back

784

00:47:33,114 --> 00:47:34,464

into the public school system.

785

00:47:34,644 --> 00:47:40,304

There's a huge lobby from the education

union to push the kids back into school

786

00:47:40,324 --> 00:47:42,414

because they're losing their funds.

787

00:47:43,404 --> 00:47:45,484

They get some I don't know.

788

00:47:45,484 --> 00:47:49,254

It's some ungodly 17, 000

per child or something.

789

00:47:49,844 --> 00:47:53,554

Whereas we educate our kids for

under 3, 000 a child annually.

790

00:47:53,714 --> 00:47:59,394

So, so it's, it's much less expensive

for the state, but they stopped losing

791

00:47:59,404 --> 00:48:04,384

the, they start losing the benefits

of their monopoly on education.

792

00:48:04,594 --> 00:48:04,864

Yeah.

793

00:48:05,664 --> 00:48:06,834

We want to keep that monopoly.

794

00:48:07,374 --> 00:48:10,624

Yeah, that's a, that's a fight

we have to keep, keep battling.

795

00:48:10,894 --> 00:48:17,044

And I think this is Across the

board, in every industry, the, the

796

00:48:17,044 --> 00:48:19,944

swamp is going to fight back, right?

797

00:48:19,954 --> 00:48:25,584

Every industry, whether it's the food,

the medical, the higher education,

798

00:48:26,034 --> 00:48:28,984

every industry is going to fight back.

799

00:48:29,234 --> 00:48:34,414

And all their different players, the

NGOs, the unions, they're not going

800

00:48:34,414 --> 00:48:37,414

to want to give up their gravy train.

801

00:48:38,449 --> 00:48:42,639

Um, and making an argument about what's

actually best for the kid or what's

802

00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:46,459

actually efficient and, and where you

can say, I can do this for one fifth

803

00:48:46,469 --> 00:48:48,469

of the costs or one sixth of the cost.

804

00:48:49,269 --> 00:48:51,689

That doesn't matter because the

framework that they're coming at

805

00:48:51,759 --> 00:48:53,569

from is they're losing their power.

806

00:48:54,659 --> 00:48:56,879

So they'll make the argument somehow

it's for the kids or something.

807

00:48:56,879 --> 00:49:03,729

So I think that if parents like you don't

stand up, then, then we're going to lose.

808

00:49:04,169 --> 00:49:06,579

Because they have a lot of incentive

to keep pushing like that and

809

00:49:06,579 --> 00:49:09,509

it's hard to fight and they're

going to fight harder and harder.

810

00:49:10,879 --> 00:49:15,169

I, I think they're going to continue to

fight at a new intensity now that they're

811

00:49:15,219 --> 00:49:18,589

being threatened across the board with

all the recent things going on this year.

812

00:49:18,659 --> 00:49:22,949

So, so I've, I've, when we were

first starting to educate people

813

00:49:23,009 --> 00:49:26,629

in the community about Bitcoin,

um, all these people have different

814

00:49:26,629 --> 00:49:27,939

topics that they like to address.

815

00:49:28,389 --> 00:49:33,269

And, and I support their, their

battles or individual fights, but.

816

00:49:33,954 --> 00:49:37,034

There's a lot of people who are fighting

those individual fights who don't

817

00:49:37,064 --> 00:49:42,484

understand what the, or don't recognize

the, uh, how to win the game overall.

818

00:49:42,954 --> 00:49:47,634

And if you want to win this

game, you stop fighting.

819

00:49:47,694 --> 00:49:50,714

You don't stop fighting the individual

fights because in the short term,

820

00:49:50,714 --> 00:49:52,234

you need to win those little battles.

821

00:49:52,344 --> 00:49:56,544

Um, but in the longterm, you need to

understand the money is the problem.

822

00:49:57,094 --> 00:50:01,874

If the federal government can no

longer print money from nothing, you

823

00:50:01,874 --> 00:50:06,864

end up with What I like to refer to as

the parasitic symbiotic relationship

824

00:50:06,874 --> 00:50:11,634

between a, um, elected official,

um, and a special interest group.

825

00:50:12,024 --> 00:50:18,534

So, so the, the federal government

funds whatever this entity is, and

826

00:50:18,544 --> 00:50:21,734

the entity takes those funds and

they distribute it how they see fit,

827

00:50:21,734 --> 00:50:25,141

but they also roll those funds back

into the election of the individual.

828

00:50:25,141 --> 00:50:30,057

So you end up with this parasite sucking

off, uh, but yet feeding a little bit

829

00:50:30,057 --> 00:50:34,024

of, um, Heroin back into the elected.

830

00:50:34,024 --> 00:50:35,124

Yeah, exactly.

831

00:50:35,454 --> 00:50:35,724

Yeah.

832

00:50:35,954 --> 00:50:39,654

And so if you want to resolve the issue

with the Department of Education or anyone

833

00:50:39,654 --> 00:50:42,314

else, you have to address the money.

834

00:50:43,384 --> 00:50:46,954

And once the money is fixed,

that somebody, that parasitic

835

00:50:46,964 --> 00:50:48,244

relationship goes away.

836

00:50:49,314 --> 00:50:55,194

So in the end, we need to focus

on, you know, we need to win the

837

00:50:55,194 --> 00:50:58,754

battle for the children today

because they're in school right now.

838

00:51:00,449 --> 00:51:03,409

But how, where are you

going to put your energy?

839

00:51:03,409 --> 00:51:05,859

Well, you need to put your

energy in both places.

840

00:51:06,349 --> 00:51:08,879

And a lot of people just, they

like to fight these little

841

00:51:08,889 --> 00:51:14,899

battles without understanding

how to win the, the entire fight.

842

00:51:15,429 --> 00:51:18,789

The money is the fight and they don't,

a lot of people don't recognize that.

843

00:51:18,789 --> 00:51:23,225

So, um, that's the direction

I try to move people.

844

00:51:23,225 --> 00:51:24,581

A little fights.

845

00:51:24,581 --> 00:51:31,184

Um, uh, if we, if you realize there's

other people who have a The, they may not

846

00:51:31,184 --> 00:51:36,334

understand the money part as the cause,

but they can still help us on the way.

847

00:51:36,554 --> 00:51:36,904

Right?

848

00:51:36,914 --> 00:51:42,844

So when the father in Loudoun County,

Virginia is fighting because his daughter

849

00:51:42,844 --> 00:51:47,054

was raped because of the school trying

to cover up the boy in the bathroom and

850

00:51:47,054 --> 00:51:51,984

the girl's bathroom type of thing, and he

gets labeled by DOJ as a terrorist, right?

851

00:51:51,994 --> 00:51:55,544

I mean, you have to, you

have to start fighting that.

852

00:51:55,544 --> 00:51:57,574

I heard an interview, I

think it was a month ago.

853

00:51:57,574 --> 00:51:57,914

It was a.

854

00:51:58,679 --> 00:52:03,649

It was a French teacher, I forget what

state, and, um, it was calling somebody by

855

00:52:03,649 --> 00:52:09,479

the wrong pronoun, basically, because he

got fired for it, right, and he eventually

856

00:52:09,479 --> 00:52:11,969

had to, he eventually won his, his case.

857

00:52:12,429 --> 00:52:18,639

And so, I think if the, the people who

are aligned with the state, in whatever

858

00:52:18,639 --> 00:52:22,809

facet that is, it's the industries,

it's the unions, it's the NGOs, it's

859

00:52:22,809 --> 00:52:28,129

the whoever, um, it's We, we all have

to be fighting those little battles.

860

00:52:28,359 --> 00:52:31,669

I do think, I mean, the money

might be the big ultimate thing.

861

00:52:31,669 --> 00:52:37,729

That's allowing them to continue to,

um, to grow and keep their power.

862

00:52:38,949 --> 00:52:43,389

Um, but in the meantime, if, if the, if

the people who support the state separate

863

00:52:43,389 --> 00:52:48,069

us and they don't, and we parents don't

realize you do have the defense league,

864

00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:49,509

you do have their parents to go to.

865

00:52:49,509 --> 00:52:52,379

You do have, you're not helpless.

866

00:52:52,739 --> 00:52:53,609

You can take action.

867

00:52:53,689 --> 00:52:54,759

You can go to a different state.

868

00:52:54,759 --> 00:52:57,699

Like we talked about, you,

you can fight in court.

869

00:52:57,709 --> 00:53:01,579

You can do you, there's, there may be a

thousand little things that you can do,

870

00:53:02,299 --> 00:53:06,189

but I like to encourage people that, yeah,

the money is the big, the big problem.

871

00:53:06,929 --> 00:53:09,849

And sometimes people are, they're

just focused on that thing.

872

00:53:09,849 --> 00:53:11,709

That's right in front

of their face, right?

873

00:53:11,749 --> 00:53:15,859

If you're, if you're again, like the

Loudoun County example, if you're,

874

00:53:16,139 --> 00:53:21,349

if your daughter is being exposed

to that, that's an immediate danger.

875

00:53:21,884 --> 00:53:23,064

Immediate danger.

876

00:53:23,714 --> 00:53:24,754

There's no way in hell.

877

00:53:24,784 --> 00:53:25,474

I'm not fighting.

878

00:53:26,824 --> 00:53:29,054

Like, I mean, I don't, I'm

not going to wait 20 years.

879

00:53:29,884 --> 00:53:34,894

Um, and have my, my kids exposed to that

kind of danger while I, while I wait.

880

00:53:35,454 --> 00:53:40,744

Um, I think part of my, I think my

point is though, it's they don't, they

881

00:53:40,744 --> 00:53:42,914

don't realize that you you're not alone.

882

00:53:43,774 --> 00:53:46,664

Like they, they try to isolate

you intentionally and scare you.

883

00:53:46,664 --> 00:53:47,994

And you're threatened with cancellation.

884

00:53:47,994 --> 00:53:49,364

You're threatened with losing your job.

885

00:53:49,364 --> 00:53:51,154

You're threatened with

whatever fill in the blank.

886

00:53:51,909 --> 00:53:55,599

They can threaten you with But

some things are worth fighting for

887

00:53:58,039 --> 00:54:01,499

We all have different roles to play

Because we all come in with different

888

00:54:01,499 --> 00:54:05,449

passions and different interests and

different reasons for doing what we do So

889

00:54:05,459 --> 00:54:12,419

wade the fact that you're willing and know

how to look up legislator Legislation from

890

00:54:12,419 --> 00:54:14,499

a different state to support your claim.

891

00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:17,399

That's amazing Not everybody

knows how to do that.

892

00:54:17,409 --> 00:54:22,039

Not everybody has the skills or

even know enough to question that

893

00:54:22,649 --> 00:54:26,054

But they have other things that

they can do Make a difference in.

894

00:54:26,084 --> 00:54:28,864

And so I think it's just important

for us to recognize that we all

895

00:54:28,864 --> 00:54:30,074

have a different role to play.

896

00:54:30,284 --> 00:54:35,624

You do what you can do and

collectively we will make waves.

897

00:54:37,604 --> 00:54:37,904

Yeah.

898

00:54:38,664 --> 00:54:38,844

Yeah.

899

00:54:38,844 --> 00:54:41,594

Not everybody would even have the

knowledge to, to think of that.

900

00:54:41,684 --> 00:54:44,064

I wouldn't have thought of it,

let alone the courage to go

901

00:54:44,064 --> 00:54:45,894

ahead and move forward with it.

902

00:54:46,124 --> 00:54:50,384

So I mean, you're, you

are fighting, right?

903

00:54:50,464 --> 00:54:52,524

I mean, you are fighting,

even though we know that the

904

00:54:52,524 --> 00:54:53,864

root causes the money, right?

905

00:54:54,274 --> 00:54:54,434

Yeah.

906

00:54:55,274 --> 00:54:55,644

Wow.

907

00:54:55,684 --> 00:54:55,864

Yeah.

908

00:54:55,864 --> 00:54:57,284

There's so many, so many good things.

909

00:54:57,284 --> 00:54:59,774

I just, I'm just so encouraged

though, it makes me really bullish

910

00:54:59,784 --> 00:55:01,184

to hear what's going on in Alaska.

911

00:55:01,194 --> 00:55:04,114

I don't like to hear what's going on

in this, in the public school system

912

00:55:04,114 --> 00:55:08,364

that you're describing, but that's

happening in a lot of different places.

913

00:55:08,364 --> 00:55:14,014

That's happening across the board

and to see a program where maybe

914

00:55:14,054 --> 00:55:17,224

it doesn't eliminate all the money,

all the taxes that are being taken

915

00:55:17,224 --> 00:55:20,754

and, or tax money that's given back

to the school district or unions.

916

00:55:22,959 --> 00:55:24,589

Homebridge is a pretty positive thing.

917

00:55:25,059 --> 00:55:29,869

What you guys described or what you guys

have is a lot better than let's say, if

918

00:55:29,869 --> 00:55:35,839

you're in Ohio or California or, you know,

other, other places, New York, Virginia.

919

00:55:36,589 --> 00:55:42,369

So I'm just really optimistic to

hear about, to hear your story.

920

00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:46,249

I think it's inspiring and maybe

somebody in those other States that

921

00:55:46,249 --> 00:55:49,959

can't move can use Alaska as an example.

922

00:55:50,824 --> 00:55:52,354

To try to make a

difference in their state.

923

00:55:52,574 --> 00:55:53,654

Yeah, exactly.

924

00:55:53,834 --> 00:55:54,154

Right.

925

00:55:54,234 --> 00:56:00,814

I mean, um, so before we wrap up, I

thought I'd ask you to share a pro wisdom

926

00:56:01,134 --> 00:56:03,864

from the, from the last four years.

927

00:56:03,864 --> 00:56:09,444

What would you say to new homeschoolers

to encourage them to continue the fight

928

00:56:09,464 --> 00:56:13,184

because there are some days I know

for every homeschooling family, we

929

00:56:13,184 --> 00:56:15,874

have the question, should we continue?

930

00:56:16,434 --> 00:56:17,874

Can I continue to do this?

931

00:56:18,144 --> 00:56:19,784

So what would you say to those people?

932

00:56:21,069 --> 00:56:24,809

I would just tell any parent who's

homeschooling and questioning, am I

933

00:56:24,809 --> 00:56:26,649

doing the right thing by homeschooling?

934

00:56:27,749 --> 00:56:30,479

Yes, you are doing the right

thing by homeschooling.

935

00:56:31,089 --> 00:56:34,999

I think that depending on the

state that you're in, all I

936

00:56:34,999 --> 00:56:36,749

can speak on really is Alaska.

937

00:56:37,429 --> 00:56:41,489

Based on the Alaska's education, having

two older kids that have gone through it,

938

00:56:41,979 --> 00:56:47,019

and then having our two littles that are

going through it, the level of education.

939

00:56:47,499 --> 00:56:53,709

That the younger kids are getting versus

what the older kids got It's just a

940

00:56:53,749 --> 00:56:58,469

better because we're able to choose the

curriculum that the littler ones are going

941

00:56:58,469 --> 00:57:00,849

through It's just a better curriculum.

942

00:57:00,889 --> 00:57:03,979

It's It focuses on their strengths.

943

00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:06,409

It brings their weaknesses

up to strengths.

944

00:57:06,959 --> 00:57:12,339

They're able to learn at their pace

and honestly tristan's almost done

945

00:57:12,339 --> 00:57:18,914

with his eighth grade year if If he

was He's doing more time, utilizing

946

00:57:18,924 --> 00:57:20,794

more time, you know, time management.

947

00:57:20,794 --> 00:57:21,594

We're still learning.

948

00:57:22,104 --> 00:57:24,834

Um, if he could do a little bit

better time management, he'd be

949

00:57:24,834 --> 00:57:27,754

done with his, his eighth grade

year and could be starting on

950

00:57:27,754 --> 00:57:29,764

ninth grade already by Christmas.

951

00:57:30,004 --> 00:57:30,084

Yeah.

952

00:57:30,414 --> 00:57:33,494

He usually is done with the school

year by December or January.

953

00:57:33,864 --> 00:57:33,884

Yeah.

954

00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,030

So then after that, do you just give

him free reign to study whatever

955

00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:40,720

he wants for the rest of the year?

956

00:57:42,410 --> 00:57:44,540

Um, yes and no.

957

00:57:44,570 --> 00:57:47,960

We have the ability to

choose other classes.

958

00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,600

We've talked with his Homebridge

teacher, and his Homebridge teacher

959

00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,040

doesn't want him to start ninth grade

because that is technically high school.

960

00:57:55,390 --> 00:57:58,450

He doesn't want him to start all

the courses through ninth grade,

961

00:57:58,550 --> 00:58:01,230

but we can give him electives.

962

00:58:01,770 --> 00:58:06,010

He can actually take college

classes with his allotment.

963

00:58:06,510 --> 00:58:11,190

So if we wanted to put him through, for

example, a higher level math class, we

964

00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:15,280

could do that through the college as

opposed to signing him up for ninth grade.

965

00:58:15,310 --> 00:58:19,350

Or we could choose to do a

different curriculum for the

966

00:58:19,350 --> 00:58:21,220

next four months or five months.

967

00:58:21,220 --> 00:58:24,934

So instead of going through right

now, we're going through a cellist.

968

00:58:25,435 --> 00:58:28,965

Instead of doing that, we could

choose to put him through like

969

00:58:28,965 --> 00:58:31,035

Calvert Academy for mathematics.

970

00:58:31,625 --> 00:58:37,365

He likes math and is fairly good in

math or, you know, pick a, another, uh,

971

00:58:37,665 --> 00:58:43,355

geography class for him to take through

Khan Academy, which Khan Academy is

972

00:58:43,355 --> 00:58:47,335

free, but it's still something that is

accredited through the school district.

973

00:58:47,765 --> 00:58:48,605

In Alaska.

974

00:58:49,135 --> 00:58:49,165

Okay.

975

00:58:49,625 --> 00:58:54,855

Well, back to your point though, Talia on

that, um, the mandatory age for a class.

976

00:58:55,340 --> 00:59:00,460

I find this, this one of the weaknesses

that still exists with, um, Homebridge

977

00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:06,830

is that as he's 8th grade rolling into

9th grade next year, he, uh, if he takes

978

00:59:07,470 --> 00:59:11,040

classes that could be accredited, he

could earn credits for in 9th grade.

979

00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,030

If he takes them now, he will

not earn credit for them,

980

00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,290

even though he completes them.

981

00:59:14,290 --> 00:59:18,860

So, we're having to hold him back

right now rather than advance

982

00:59:18,860 --> 00:59:23,320

him so that he doesn't end up

in a very difficult um, point.

983

00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,170

in the future where he

struggles with graduation.

984

00:59:26,590 --> 00:59:31,680

So there is still that weakness, uh,

that, that fine line where they have

985

00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:35,270

segregated junior high from high

school, which they shouldn't do.

986

00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:35,820

Yeah.

987

00:59:36,060 --> 00:59:38,180

They need to let kids just, the

fact that they're holding them back.

988

00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:39,770

We had that experience.

989

00:59:39,830 --> 00:59:42,450

My, how old was he then?

990

00:59:43,420 --> 00:59:43,960

11.

991

00:59:44,020 --> 00:59:50,730

My 11 year old had finished algebra and

received permission from the science

992

00:59:50,730 --> 00:59:52,450

teacher to take general science.

993

00:59:53,005 --> 00:59:59,785

Not a big deal anyway, um the co op

we were going through Rejected his

994

00:59:59,785 --> 01:00:04,005

registration because they said well,

it wouldn't be fair to other high

995

01:00:04,005 --> 01:00:09,005

school kids If an 11 year old came

in took the class and I said, isn't

996

01:00:09,005 --> 01:00:10,905

that the point of homeschooling?

997

01:00:11,455 --> 01:00:16,275

That yeah, he can advance as he's

ready to advance and the co op rejected

998

01:00:16,865 --> 01:00:21,990

their registration emphatically

And so I pulled all my kids out.

999

01:00:22,050 --> 01:00:24,979

I'm like, that's not

why I'm homeschooling.

1000

01:00:24,980 --> 01:00:25,790

I'm going elsewhere.

1001

01:00:25,970 --> 01:00:26,780

Tali just pulled it.

1002

01:00:26,830 --> 01:00:30,190

I think that's what I made

some enemies, but you know, you

1003

01:00:30,190 --> 01:00:31,260

got to do what you got to do.

1004

01:00:31,260 --> 01:00:34,050

And I think it's so silly

because if you're homeschooling,

1005

01:00:35,140 --> 01:00:38,810

why would you tell the parents

they're making a wrong decision?

1006

01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:41,120

Because then they're just basically.

1007

01:00:41,730 --> 01:00:43,679

It's fiat thinking, you

know, it's a, it's a fiat.

1008

01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:44,160

I get it.

1009

01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:44,440

Yeah.

1010

01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:45,190

It's frustrating.

1011

01:00:45,470 --> 01:00:47,900

So I actually have one last question.

1012

01:00:47,900 --> 01:00:48,290

So.

1013

01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,400

If you guys don't mind me asking

one more before we, we do wrap up.

1014

01:00:52,460 --> 01:00:55,650

Um, so one of the things that Talia

and I have struggled with, we've

1015

01:00:55,650 --> 01:00:58,820

gone to homeschooling conferences,

we see all these similarities, but

1016

01:00:58,820 --> 01:01:00,050

we're very passionate about it.

1017

01:01:00,710 --> 01:01:05,030

And the message is, is really hard

to, to reach people who aren't

1018

01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,610

already in the Bitcoin community.

1019

01:01:07,210 --> 01:01:11,930

I, we, we, we find that making the

argument for why sovereign education,

1020

01:01:12,510 --> 01:01:16,940

all these things that we just talked

about, it resonates really, really

1021

01:01:16,940 --> 01:01:18,300

well in the Bitcoin community.

1022

01:01:19,570 --> 01:01:23,140

But we can't just stay in

our own, in our own bubble.

1023

01:01:23,140 --> 01:01:26,880

We have to, we have to

kind of push forward.

1024

01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,970

So things like the Alaska conference

that you're working on, um, are

1025

01:01:31,970 --> 01:01:37,340

there, what kind of opportunities

in Alaska are there to try to, to

1026

01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,840

continue to push on the homeschooling

side is, is kind of the conversation.

1027

01:01:41,850 --> 01:01:46,205

It doesn't have to be Bitcoin, but,

um, for example, um, Can we get some

1028

01:01:46,205 --> 01:01:49,945

of those, those homeschoolers to the

conference or, I just feel like it's,

1029

01:01:51,275 --> 01:01:53,895

when we talk to each other, we're already

Bitcoiners and we look at each other, we

1030

01:01:53,895 --> 01:01:55,015

say, we already agree with each other.

1031

01:01:55,015 --> 01:01:57,535

I, and we have to argue who

agrees with who more, right?

1032

01:01:57,595 --> 01:02:02,605

Um, like it doesn't really, it doesn't

really help us reach outside of that.

1033

01:02:03,445 --> 01:02:05,185

So what are your thoughts on that?

1034

01:02:05,225 --> 01:02:11,115

Uh, what are you guys working to

help push outside our kind of core

1035

01:02:11,115 --> 01:02:13,035

group, if you will, or core people?

1036

01:02:13,950 --> 01:02:18,200

So Gabe Lord, um, brought

up a scripture at one point.

1037

01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,460

I can't remember the exact scripture.

1038

01:02:19,550 --> 01:02:23,980

Um, but it has to do with not being

able to educate your own family

1039

01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:25,130

and friends in your own community.

1040

01:02:25,130 --> 01:02:29,120

You have to go outside your community

to, to get somebody to teach your, your

1041

01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,860

best friend about how something works.

1042

01:02:31,910 --> 01:02:37,130

Um, people will trust a stranger with

a reputation faster than they'll trust

1043

01:02:37,130 --> 01:02:38,570

their best friend in their own community.

1044

01:02:39,810 --> 01:02:43,500

That's a, it's very difficult to

break through to your friends.

1045

01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:48,640

So here in Alaska, my goal is to get

Alaska on a Bitcoin standard, right?

1046

01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:54,540

Um, be it all my communications with the

Alaska Retirement Board, there seems to

1047

01:02:54,540 --> 01:02:57,840

be only one person who's even interested

in having a conversation about Bitcoin,

1048

01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:04,215

or be it, um, Trying to speak with

permanent fund corporation, which is how

1049

01:03:04,215 --> 01:03:05,755

a lot of our state government's funded.

1050

01:03:05,795 --> 01:03:08,565

And we receive our permanent fund

dividends through the state of

1051

01:03:08,575 --> 01:03:14,335

Alaska or, or just, um, trying to

build out a Bitcoin community here

1052

01:03:14,335 --> 01:03:19,065

in Juno or trying to get the unions

on board and the pensions and trying

1053

01:03:19,065 --> 01:03:20,505

to get the whole community on board.

1054

01:03:21,215 --> 01:03:24,045

I guess I see Juno as a unique situation.

1055

01:03:24,125 --> 01:03:25,575

Like you have to meet

people where they're at.

1056

01:03:25,595 --> 01:03:30,970

And I'm trying to meet the community

where I'm at and that, By holding a

1057

01:03:30,990 --> 01:03:36,600

conference in a community that has all of

the decision making power for the entire

1058

01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:41,700

state of Alaska, which is an 80 billion

sovereign wealth fund, uh, unfunded

1059

01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:47,200

liabilities in the pensions and the unions

and the native corporations, hence the

1060

01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,560

sovereign people here at the conference.

1061

01:03:50,090 --> 01:03:54,650

The, um, to, to have a conference

in Juneau and to bring a

1062

01:03:54,650 --> 01:03:56,170

massive influx of talent.

1063

01:03:56,660 --> 01:04:01,940

and knowledge on money and

sovereign money into Juno, it

1064

01:04:01,940 --> 01:04:03,260

could impact the entire state.

1065

01:04:03,260 --> 01:04:10,150

So, um, I can only go so far as

to orange filling the people of

1066

01:04:10,150 --> 01:04:13,000

Juno and to, so what am I doing?

1067

01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,500

I'm bringing the experts here.

1068

01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,070

Um, this isn't a huge money

making conference by any means.

1069

01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,880

There's no money being

made in this conference.

1070

01:04:20,900 --> 01:04:24,815

It's just about Getting the ticket,

the money that we receive for

1071

01:04:24,815 --> 01:04:29,185

tickets and pouring it back into

getting the best minds up here too.

1072

01:04:29,795 --> 01:04:34,085

And unfortunately with this, like if

you have this influx of Bitcoiners

1073

01:04:34,775 --> 01:04:36,765

go to Nashville, what do you gain?

1074

01:04:36,775 --> 01:04:41,335

Well, you have this, this

almost quarantined off community

1075

01:04:41,335 --> 01:04:42,565

that goes to a conference.

1076

01:04:42,575 --> 01:04:43,645

They stay at hotels.

1077

01:04:43,645 --> 01:04:47,475

They're, they're, they're, they're

separated from the community, but to

1078

01:04:47,475 --> 01:04:49,325

do this conference here in Juneau.

1079

01:04:49,870 --> 01:04:51,920

We are doing this over the 4th of July.

1080

01:04:51,970 --> 01:04:56,010

Everybody comes from around Southeast

Alaska to attend the, see the

1081

01:04:56,010 --> 01:04:58,310

fireworks, you know, see the parade.

1082

01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:02,279

So to bring the Bitcoiners here is the

most challenging time to come because

1083

01:05:02,279 --> 01:05:08,240

there's less lodging, less facilities,

but it's also the highest impact timeframe

1084

01:05:08,279 --> 01:05:10,170

of the year to have a conference.

1085

01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:15,940

So we want to bring, and, and also

as the conference starts formally

1086

01:05:15,940 --> 01:05:18,540

on the 5th, you know, the, the

will pass cruises on the 3rd.

1087

01:05:19,050 --> 01:05:22,230

Watch the fireworks that night, but

then the next day have the parade.

1088

01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,810

We can have floats in the parade.

1089

01:05:23,820 --> 01:05:29,190

We can have people walking around, um,

handing out along the float, um, flyers

1090

01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,925

for, um, The conference, uh, flyers

that can go over sovereign education.

1091

01:05:33,925 --> 01:05:37,945

We could have a sovereign education

float in the parade and then, um,

1092

01:05:37,945 --> 01:05:40,315

encourage people to show up at

the conference the next day to

1093

01:05:40,315 --> 01:05:41,765

hear the conversation about it.

1094

01:05:42,215 --> 01:05:47,015

So, so trying to, I think we'll have

success bringing people to the conference.

1095

01:05:47,015 --> 01:05:48,715

Juno is only 30, 000 people.

1096

01:05:49,355 --> 01:05:52,090

So, but they, But we

have a captured audience.

1097

01:05:52,090 --> 01:05:53,820

They cannot escape the community.

1098

01:05:53,820 --> 01:05:57,690

So if we bring people to the community,

there's only so many places to eat.

1099

01:05:57,700 --> 01:06:00,430

And as people go out to eat and ask

the question, do you take Bitcoin?

1100

01:06:01,990 --> 01:06:08,660

And so I, I see Juno is in a

different type of situation than

1101

01:06:09,180 --> 01:06:14,110

other places down South, where,

how do you have that conversation?

1102

01:06:14,110 --> 01:06:19,130

And it's just really hard to

educate people on something that.

1103

01:06:19,645 --> 01:06:21,915

When they know you for

so long, they may not.

1104

01:06:22,355 --> 01:06:28,995

Um, yeah, I can't remember the

scripture, but it is, it was

1105

01:06:28,995 --> 01:06:30,645

very true when he stated it.

1106

01:06:31,465 --> 01:06:34,715

If you find it before we post, we'll

just include it in the show notes.

1107

01:06:34,775 --> 01:06:36,545

Um, but I think it's, that's really cool.

1108

01:06:36,545 --> 01:06:41,305

So some of the people, influencers

who might come influencers as

1109

01:06:41,305 --> 01:06:46,275

in people who can help impact

Alaska budgets and education.

1110

01:06:46,845 --> 01:06:51,235

So you're saying some of those people

will also be in attendance, or at

1111

01:06:51,235 --> 01:06:53,225

least you're trying to get some

of those people into attendance.

1112

01:06:53,945 --> 01:06:58,175

So we have right now for the

sovereign people, I, you know,

1113

01:06:58,175 --> 01:07:02,435

I have my dream, like, as far as

who I would love to have up here.

1114

01:07:02,495 --> 01:07:06,855

Um, one of which, um, I'm a

huge fan of Alex Gladstein.

1115

01:07:06,855 --> 01:07:07,925

I mean, I'd agree with that.

1116

01:07:08,300 --> 01:07:12,120

Everything that he says, but his

mission is 100 percent right on

1117

01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,740

and I don't agree with everything.

1118

01:07:13,740 --> 01:07:20,080

Anybody says He's coming up and that is

the opportunity to hear him speak and to

1119

01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,210

speak on sovereign sovereign, um Money.

1120

01:07:23,330 --> 01:07:23,690

Mm hmm.

1121

01:07:23,850 --> 01:07:27,640

First of all people here Where we

have people who see themselves as

1122

01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:33,850

sovereign I think that is a Will

be a high impact Um lisa huff.

1123

01:07:33,890 --> 01:07:34,860

She'll be up here.

1124

01:07:34,990 --> 01:07:36,720

Um She's our keynote.

1125

01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,490

Um, she's going to be speaking on,

uh, energy and national security.

1126

01:07:41,220 --> 01:07:45,230

So we have a lot of energy in the state

of Alaska, and if we want to have a

1127

01:07:45,529 --> 01:07:51,740

national, you know, a stance on the

planet, as far as, uh, embracing Bitcoin

1128

01:07:51,740 --> 01:07:55,590

is good for our national security and

explaining that, I think that's powerful.

1129

01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,710

Um, you'll be up here speaking

in sovereign education.

1130

01:08:00,235 --> 01:08:02,435

With hopefully a very qualified panel.

1131

01:08:02,615 --> 01:08:03,795

Um, working on that.

1132

01:08:05,335 --> 01:08:07,795

Well, I was just talking about the

other side of it though, Wade, because

1133

01:08:07,805 --> 01:08:13,035

if we come up there, uh, I was just

wondering, you have to convince people

1134

01:08:13,045 --> 01:08:18,925

in Alaska who may not be Bitcoiners to

give people like Gladstein and others or

1135

01:08:18,975 --> 01:08:21,755

Lisa and others the time of day, right?

1136

01:08:21,795 --> 01:08:25,535

And that's a, um, you're,

you're almost trying to create

1137

01:08:25,564 --> 01:08:26,835

this marketplace of ideas.

1138

01:08:26,865 --> 01:08:27,015

Yeah.

1139

01:08:27,015 --> 01:08:28,465

You're, you're bringing people out.

1140

01:08:28,930 --> 01:08:30,229

outside into the state.

1141

01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:30,770

That's great.

1142

01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:33,330

Um, it seems to be kind of challenging.

1143

01:08:33,340 --> 01:08:37,520

You also have to convince people

in the state they have some

1144

01:08:37,550 --> 01:08:41,779

something that would benefit them

personally by attending this thing.

1145

01:08:41,779 --> 01:08:47,029

You know, that's a that's a hard you're

trying to build everything in this.

1146

01:08:47,029 --> 01:08:51,240

One of the things that I've seen with

being a part of the The homeschooling

1147

01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:55,109

community here in Juneau is we have

a number of social media sites.

1148

01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:59,819

Well, maybe a number isn't the right

term, but we have a couple different, at

1149

01:08:59,819 --> 01:09:06,109

least Facebook sites that home homeschool,

specifically homebridge parents are on.

1150

01:09:06,130 --> 01:09:09,950

And now we have three different

homeschooling programs in an, in

1151

01:09:09,950 --> 01:09:14,120

Juneau, just Juneau and homebridge

is the one that we're connected to.

1152

01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:17,410

So I have a homebridge parent.

1153

01:09:18,020 --> 01:09:21,740

Facebook page that I'm a part

of, and then a homeschooling

1154

01:09:22,580 --> 01:09:24,104

parents page that I'm a part of.

1155

01:09:24,104 --> 01:09:28,279

Mm-hmm . So I'm a part of two different

homeschooling parent pages on Facebook.

1156

01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:28,729

Yeah.

1157

01:09:29,660 --> 01:09:34,880

And I have from time to time,

brought up and post made, made

1158

01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,809

comments on the pages about bitcoin.

1159

01:09:39,475 --> 01:09:41,684

They're at least not

taking my comments down.

1160

01:09:43,245 --> 01:09:47,475

My posts don't come down, which

means people are still seeing them.

1161

01:09:48,035 --> 01:09:53,354

So as we get closer to the conference,

as we get closer to, to getting

1162

01:09:53,354 --> 01:09:56,795

to where with me Premiere Bitcoin,

we're going to potentially teach

1163

01:09:56,795 --> 01:10:03,235

another class to, you know, the

students for free on our own time.

1164

01:10:04,055 --> 01:10:07,975

At the public library for certain

age groups, because I don't want

1165

01:10:07,975 --> 01:10:10,934

to have a five year old who's going

to be there running around, be an

1166

01:10:10,934 --> 01:10:16,234

extraction year old who is truly

wanting to learn about Bitcoin.

1167

01:10:16,235 --> 01:10:20,715

My point being is with the political

aspect, you know, the political motion

1168

01:10:20,715 --> 01:10:26,434

that we've got going on right now with the

change of administration, we are looking

1169

01:10:26,515 --> 01:10:29,115

at Bitcoin becoming a little bit more.

1170

01:10:29,425 --> 01:10:34,775

Of a a buzz a little bit more noise

about it going through not just our

1171

01:10:34,775 --> 01:10:40,455

community Or certain communities, but

through the national level Hoping that

1172

01:10:40,465 --> 01:10:46,995

these bitcoin little bugs that i'm

putting out will catch someone's eyes And

1173

01:10:46,995 --> 01:10:50,365

maybe the students who are part of this

because there are some older students

1174

01:10:50,955 --> 01:10:52,835

Who are part of these pages as well?

1175

01:10:53,085 --> 01:10:56,155

Maybe they'll see that and

be like, oh, holy moly.

1176

01:10:56,305 --> 01:11:00,005

There's a conference going on You And

maybe somebody will reach out, you

1177

01:11:00,005 --> 01:11:01,625

know, maybe we'll have a mom reach out.

1178

01:11:01,825 --> 01:11:04,125

What are the youngest age

groups that can go to this?

1179

01:11:04,405 --> 01:11:07,875

Or a student will reach out and say,

Hey, I've been talking with some

1180

01:11:07,875 --> 01:11:09,495

friends and we're interested in this.

1181

01:11:09,645 --> 01:11:11,295

How can we become a part?

1182

01:11:11,305 --> 01:11:12,595

How can we attend this?

1183

01:11:12,915 --> 01:11:14,195

How can we learn more?

1184

01:11:14,755 --> 01:11:18,525

And, and with those little, you

know, what do they call them?

1185

01:11:18,565 --> 01:11:21,684

Ear mites or ear earworms where

you're, you know, you've got a

1186

01:11:21,684 --> 01:11:23,095

song, a song stuck in your head.

1187

01:11:23,325 --> 01:11:25,265

Maybe you've got this

thought stuck in your head.

1188

01:11:25,425 --> 01:11:29,150

Oh, New administration,

he's talking about Bitcoin.

1189

01:11:29,390 --> 01:11:33,840

I've heard about these other Other

coins I won't use the term that Wade

1190

01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,830

uses but these other these other

coins because because we are just

1191

01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,510

Bitcoin We don't teach anything.

1192

01:11:39,950 --> 01:11:41,410

We call them appropriately.

1193

01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:47,990

Yeah We only teach the Bitcoin Yeah, I

hope you guys are successful in planting

1194

01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:53,220

those seeds and getting those those

folks out because Yeah, I agree with you.

1195

01:11:53,220 --> 01:11:55,000

There's the political winds of change.

1196

01:11:55,020 --> 01:12:00,180

The, the news cycle has changed now with

the, with all, with all the things going

1197

01:12:00,180 --> 01:12:02,470

on ETFs and others, uh, micro strategy.

1198

01:12:02,470 --> 01:12:07,970

So yeah, I hope you guys, I wish you

the best with being able to bring

1199

01:12:07,970 --> 01:12:11,600

the people from Alaska to somehow

connect at it, you know, come out

1200

01:12:11,610 --> 01:12:13,360

and experience some of that buzz.

1201

01:12:14,290 --> 01:12:19,830

And that's, I mean, that's how, I

mean, Tali now when we was at 2022,

1202

01:12:19,860 --> 01:12:20,940

we went to our first conference.

1203

01:12:22,065 --> 01:12:26,755

I think, no, the, the first, um, Bitcoin

conference, I think we went to Miami.

1204

01:12:26,835 --> 01:12:27,565

I think it was 22.

1205

01:12:28,315 --> 01:12:33,195

Um, Tali spent her entire time like, I

mean, Oh man, that's so and so speaking.

1206

01:12:33,235 --> 01:12:34,945

And she was like, well,

I really don't care.

1207

01:12:34,945 --> 01:12:39,385

I can catch that on YouTube, but

I can, I have a captive audience

1208

01:12:39,385 --> 01:12:41,735

over there in the, on the floor.

1209

01:12:42,270 --> 01:12:44,690

And she would go up to whoever

she had a question about.

1210

01:12:44,860 --> 01:12:46,320

Somebody had a wallet.

1211

01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:48,780

She'd go up to them and she'd

just pepper them with questions.

1212

01:12:48,780 --> 01:12:51,320

And then someone next to them had,

they were running some kind of

1213

01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,200

minor, peppering with questions.

1214

01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,760

And then somebody else had legal

services or whatever it was.

1215

01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,670

I mean, they had, it was it.

1216

01:12:58,770 --> 01:13:01,340

And then you had somebody else with,

I don't know, the little, what do

1217

01:13:01,340 --> 01:13:04,590

you call the little stamps for your,

to, to record your, the seed stamps.

1218

01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:11,090

So she took it as, I'm just gonna, I've

got a captive audience and I'm just gonna

1219

01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:15,415

ask, until I feel like I, you know, I,

I got what I wanted out of this thing.

1220

01:13:15,415 --> 01:13:20,125

And she just, so if, if you can plant

that somehow in these people, if they

1221

01:13:20,145 --> 01:13:25,365

have any interest at all, that this

is an amazing opportunity to just

1222

01:13:25,365 --> 01:13:31,030

learn and talk to people face to face

and, and, um, Yeah, it's good stuff.

1223

01:13:31,030 --> 01:13:33,150

So did we leave anything out?

1224

01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,960

Did you guys wanted to cover?

1225

01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,750

I feel we've hit a lot

of different topics.

1226

01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:37,790

We've gone over the hour.

1227

01:13:37,790 --> 01:13:43,180

So, uh, we've probably exhausted

you with our questions, but anything

1228

01:13:43,180 --> 01:13:43,818

else you guys want to cover?

1229

01:13:44,660 --> 01:13:48,460

Just real quick to roll back on that for

the Alaska conference, trying to tackle

1230

01:13:48,460 --> 01:13:51,350

this from all these different directions,

be it bringing the veterans out, um,

1231

01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:54,050

we're going to have the Bitcoin vets

run in the morning up to Nugget Falls.

1232

01:13:54,440 --> 01:13:56,800

I believe we're looking

at tentatively July 1.

1233

01:13:57,340 --> 01:14:00,900

We're bringing up Paladin Tower Tactics

for firearm training that afternoon.

1234

01:14:00,900 --> 01:14:05,400

So now, um, we can, you know, break

into that community a little bit.

1235

01:14:05,410 --> 01:14:09,010

Um, we'll have a big

picnic out at Aquarek.

1236

01:14:09,250 --> 01:14:10,960

You know, everybody's invited to that.

1237

01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,420

So hopefully we get some faces out

there on the beach and a fire and

1238

01:14:14,420 --> 01:14:16,830

some, you know, outdoor picnic food.

1239

01:14:17,670 --> 01:14:21,090

Um, July 3rd, the cruise, you know,

if you're not signed up for that,

1240

01:14:21,090 --> 01:14:24,760

you'll, you know, that'll be something

that's not really pulling so much

1241

01:14:24,770 --> 01:14:26,020

from the local community, I guess.

1242

01:14:26,050 --> 01:14:29,790

Hopefully we can get, we can break the

political barrier with the governor's

1243

01:14:29,790 --> 01:14:33,120

office, which we're working at doing

and getting him to, um, open the

1244

01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:38,300

conference and, um, you know, break

some of the barriers with the different,

1245

01:14:38,330 --> 01:14:42,840

uh, um, Departments with the state.

1246

01:14:43,330 --> 01:14:50,130

Um, then, uh, The parade on July 4th,

integrating that so we can have a presence

1247

01:14:50,210 --> 01:14:54,800

and be recognized as a presence in the

parade and get people to walk along, maybe

1248

01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:59,080

do a Bitcoin veterans cleanup after the

parade because there's candy and papers

1249

01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,870

laying all over the ground, you know,

do something good for the community.

1250

01:15:02,765 --> 01:15:07,545

And then July 5th, not only is it the

conference, but we have the bazaar at an,

1251

01:15:07,565 --> 01:15:11,235

in a neighboring building where we'll have

local vendors who are accepting Bitcoin.

1252

01:15:11,645 --> 01:15:15,575

So we're getting local vendors who

go to these, um, different shows to,

1253

01:15:16,285 --> 01:15:17,575

you know, start accepting Bitcoin.

1254

01:15:17,575 --> 01:15:21,715

So to build out that marketplace in

Juno and to bring in these businesses

1255

01:15:21,745 --> 01:15:25,934

to understanding how to accept Bitcoin

with their business, be it through strike

1256

01:15:25,934 --> 01:15:27,425

or whatever app they choose to use.

1257

01:15:28,025 --> 01:15:31,235

And then, uh, closing out

the conference, July 6th.

1258

01:15:31,870 --> 01:15:34,820

So, we're trying to break through

different areas, you know, with Alex

1259

01:15:34,820 --> 01:15:37,920

Gladstein being able to speak on

human rights, you know, we can hit the

1260

01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:43,720

university and the school district,

um, with, uh, Lisa Huff, we can, we

1261

01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:49,600

can try to get, um, the governor's

office in, and who knows, maybe if

1262

01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,559

we did manage to get Michael Saylor,

maybe we could get the Permanent Fund

1263

01:15:52,570 --> 01:15:56,160

Corporation and the 80 billion Sovereign

Wealth Fund to take it seriously.

1264

01:15:56,210 --> 01:15:56,580

Ooh.

1265

01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:57,100

So.

1266

01:15:58,465 --> 01:16:01,985

It's trying to get the right people

to tackle the right subjects.

1267

01:16:02,405 --> 01:16:04,775

And, uh, yeah, that's so cool.

1268

01:16:05,865 --> 01:16:08,905

Well, it takes a lot of, a lot

of work to put that together.

1269

01:16:08,905 --> 01:16:14,125

So we're very grateful to have

people like you who are, are willing

1270

01:16:14,125 --> 01:16:16,115

to go the extra mile and do that.

1271

01:16:16,765 --> 01:16:18,815

And thank you for homeschooling your kid.

1272

01:16:18,825 --> 01:16:20,465

You're going to

relationship with your kids.

1273

01:16:20,465 --> 01:16:24,055

You guys will tell him, I will just tell

you, you will never ever regret that

1274

01:16:24,065 --> 01:16:26,375

you've spent more time with your kids.

1275

01:16:27,130 --> 01:16:27,309

Right.

1276

01:16:27,309 --> 01:16:29,840

It's just, it's really, really

good that you're doing that.

1277

01:16:29,890 --> 01:16:35,990

And, um, with that, I will, I guess we'll

wrap up and we'll put all your, all these,

1278

01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:37,740

all the information in the show notes.

1279

01:16:38,090 --> 01:16:39,190

So thank you guys.

1280

01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:40,100

We'll talk to you soon.