It's time for our monthly wrap-up show! On this episode we hand out our June Pride Awards, including unique categories like Wingman/Wingwoman and Scene Stealer. We rank our top films for this series and unveil our mid-year top five movies of 2024. The episode also features a look ahead at anticipated films and a tribute to Donald Sutherland. Finally, we reveal our plans for next month's theme: '80s summer comedies! Listen in for all the details!
04:23 June Pride Awards & Rankings
22:27 Mid-Year Top Five Movies
46:19 Honorable Mentions and Disappointments
52:04 Anticipated Movies of the second half of 2024
57:57 Remembering Donald Sutherland
01:01:31 Revealing What we're watching this July
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In the dying embers of human existence, as the asteroid, a behemoth the size of
Speaker:Texas, hurdles relentlessly toward Earth, the world braces for an apocalyptic end.
Speaker:Deep beneath the bunker, a refuge plunges into the bowels of the Earth.
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Nathan:I am Nathan Shore and accompanying me are the extraordinary movie mavens,
Nathan:Brianna Budworth and Sam Cole.
Nathan:Hello everybody.
Sam:Hello.
Nathan:How are you?
Sam:Doing pretty well.
Sam:How are you doing?
Nathan:Excellent.
Nathan:Excellent.
Nathan:As you know, I think I
Sam:think B is muted.
Sam:It appears sadly.
Bee:So I'm here
Sam:four years
Bee:later.
Bee:You would think I figured it out.
Bee:I
Sam:could have let that slide in the name of comedy, but I just, I'm too
Sam:much, too much empathy as a human being.
Sam:You know,
Nathan:thanks.
Nathan:Well, glad you're all here and welcome everybody listening and tuning in.
Nathan:For our June wrap up episode.
Nathan:We do this every month where we just get together for a week and catch
Nathan:up on what we've been watching.
Nathan:And especially this month we are going to hand out our June award,
Nathan:our June, June awards, what is June awards, our June pride awards.
Nathan:We watched some, some great movies this past month in we did, and just kind
Nathan:of like catch up our final thoughts on that before we move on to our
Nathan:next theme and share about what we've been watching this the past couple of
Nathan:weeks should be a fun little episode.
Bee:It's summer guys.
Bee:It's officially summer.
Nathan:Summer's here.
Nathan:Summer Blushbusters.
Bee:Yes.
Bee:Some, some, some, some time in the box office is back
Bee:with inside out too.
Sam:I loved your Facebook, Nathan, when you posted about
Sam:going to see inside out too.
Sam:And you're like, I'm going to be, I had to do my part and contribute
Sam:to Bob Iger's retirement fund.
Sam:I thought that was
Nathan:brilliant.
Nathan:He's, he's, he's having a good, he's got to help him out, help him
Nathan:out, you know yeah, I've been having some fun with my socials this week.
Nathan:I I also posted, cause you know, yesterday we, you know, I live in
Nathan:Massachusetts and we had a tornado warning and I sent it to you guys.
Nathan:We've been having a lot of fun on the show.
Nathan:Teasing our anticipation for twisters.
Nathan:So I put, I shared it with you guys and I posted it on, on a, on my socials
Nathan:the picture, the, the meme of Glenn Powell, looking out the window of.
Nathan:From the trailer where he's like, like, woo, you know, I
Nathan:don't know what you call it.
Sam:He got the framing right and the facial expression perfectly.
Sam:It was instantly recognizable.
Sam:Like I got the, I got it like immediately.
Sam:I was like, yeah, spectacular.
Sam:Of
Nathan:course, I took a picture of the tornado warning that
Nathan:came up on my dashboard as well.
Nathan:So
Bee:we are really excited for Twisters.
Sam:Yeah, we are.
Sam:More than we should be.
Sam:More than we should be, but it could be awesome.
Sam:You never know.
Sam:It's fine.
Bee:It might be great.
Bee:There's always
Sam:hope.
Bee:Yeah, you don't know.
Bee:Hey, we all just made
Nathan:plans to go out and see it together in a couple of weeks.
Nathan:So yeah.
Bee:Hell yeah.
Sam:That's true.
Sam:That is true.
Nathan:So yeah, let's, let's get into it.
Nathan:We so this past couple of weeks we watched some great movies.
Nathan:Sam, I know you been busy.
Nathan:You were off.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:In San Diego the past week doing some, some business, some work.
Nathan:So you weren't with us last week and I don't know if you had a chance to watch.
Nathan:I didn't even ask you off when we were off the air,
Sam:you know, like a complete idiot.
Sam:And I'm going to apologize to the whole world on this podcast
Sam:because the world is listening.
Sam:That's how good our numbers are.
Sam:So you should join it too.
Sam:Listener out there, but I did not see it and I completely forgot to see it.
Sam:And then, not only that, but today I had free time to watch it and I was just like
Sam:sitting around like a jet lagged idiot.
Sam:So you know what, you could've done your apologies
Nathan:and you could have just listened to our episode on and
Nathan:learned everything you needed to know.
Sam:That's true.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:The episode is out.
Sam:And I saw that, but it was like half an hour before the podcast, so I was like
Nathan:too late.
Nathan:1, 1, 1.
Nathan:That was kind of funny.
Nathan:Well, the episode only dropped, you know, at midnight.
Nathan:Earlier today, the, I was teasing that that was going to be the most
Nathan:obscure it is the most obscure movie that we've reviewed on the show.
Nathan:I'm referring to the 1996 film lilies from John Grayson, a movie that none
Nathan:of us have even heard of until a couple of weeks ago when now friend of the
Nathan:show, Duncan Flaster recommended it.
Nathan:And we had, we had a great time talking about it, but none of
Nathan:us had even heard about it.
Nathan:I am.
Nathan:I would guess that nobody, probably very few people listening to this
Nathan:episode, the show prior to that episode had even heard of it either.
Nathan:But what's really funny is that episode has already been downloaded more than
Nathan:our flash episode from a year ago.
Sam:Oh wow.
Nathan:Yeah.
Sam:That's amazing.
Sam:You never know.
Sam:Well tune in, tune in
Bee:folks and listen, listen to Lily's.
Bee:It's a good movie.
Nathan:So we, we will, you can refrain from any of the discussion around
Nathan:Willys, but you know what, Sam, if you ever get a chance to check it out,
Nathan:I'd love to know what you think of it.
Sam:I definitely will watch it because I was planning on watching it and
Sam:then schedule change, but like, yeah, I'm fascinated cause I have no pulse
Sam:on whether you liked or disliked it.
Sam:And so I got, I got to listen and watch.
Sam:And
Bee:we won't tell you either.
Sam:Exactly.
Nathan:Okay.
Nathan:So.
Nathan:Well, me and Bee will probably partake in some of these awards.
Nathan:And Sam, if you, if you do not wish to do all these, that's perfectly okay.
Nathan:But
Sam:we, I, I, I will do my best.
Sam:You do your best wish.
Sam:I wish.
Nathan:And you can make up some things if you want, as you want to.
Nathan:I,
Sam:I'll be brave.
Sam:Just like Disney's brave, unlike its sequel coward,
Sam:which is not as good a film.
Sam:, Nathan: I hoping Eng Grief actually was a cyclical coward.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:Awesome.
Sam:It doesn't, but wouldn't that be like insane if it did to be amazing?
Bee:Oh my God.
Sam:And like the hero failed, like he was a coward.
Sam:He never overcame it.
Sam:There was no arc.
Sam:It's not a Disney
Bee:movie.
Bee:I know.
Bee:You're not describing a Disney movie at all.
Bee:That's why it
Sam:would be great.
Sam:The audience would be so shocked.
Sam:It'd be a hit out of like, they'd shock watch it.
Sam:They'd shock watch it a couple of times and be like, is this real?
Sam:Can we enter
Bee:our new Disney era?
Bee:Oh God.
Bee:I'm so tired.
Nathan:Let's save this episode from the gutter already.
Nathan:Let's rank these movies.
Nathan:We, we watched three movies for our June pride.
Nathan:The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.
Nathan:Then we watched Portrait of a Lady on
Bee:Fire.
Bee:Portrait
Nathan:of a Lady on Fire.
Nathan:It's been a, it's been a long day.
Nathan:And of course, Lilies from 1996.
Nathan:And I think what we're going to do is we're going to give out some awards here.
Nathan:But I think the first thing we want to do is, should we do this at the end?
Nathan:Rank these?
Nathan:This was at the top of our agenda, but maybe we should do this at the end.
Nathan:Sure.
Nathan:We'll do this at the end.
Nathan:We'll do this again.
Nathan:Let's start with our first award.
Nathan:And this is something we've been a little bit tradition here is
Nathan:our wingman wing woman award.
Nathan:What character would you want to be your wingman wing woman on a date?
Sam:I can, I can definitely answer that.
Sam:It would, it would have to be Terence stamp, be very supportive.
Sam:I would have to, I would have to say so it was, it was either that or one of
Sam:the people from the like drunken the, the brawl, like the, the, the minors
Sam:in the town getting drunk just because they'd be so like drunk that you could
Sam:like manipulate them and like tell them what to do as you're like wingman.
Nathan:That's great, Sam.
Nathan:I'll jump ahead.
Nathan:I also have.
Nathan:Terrence Stamp as Bernadette as my, my, my wing woman award, just
Nathan:because I, I think that Bernadette would take no shit from nobody.
Bee:It proved themselves to be a great wing person.
Bee:I'm going for Sophie.
Bee:From Portrait of a Lady on Fire.
Bee:She was the housekeeper.
Nathan:Okay.
Bee:Yeah.
Bee:I think she can keep a secret, which I like.
Bee:And I think she really, like, sticks with that trio.
Bee:You know?
Nathan:I like that.
Nathan:I like it.
Nathan:Okay.
Nathan:Our next award is our Scene Stealer Award.
Bee:Dun da da dun!
Nathan:Sam, since you just volunteered to go first.
Sam:Yeah, so You know you have to go first all the time.
Sam:For the scene stealer award, I don't know if, I mean, it's not like a It
Sam:certainly steals the scene, but it's not like a positive, upbeat scene.
Sam:I think it is one, a scene that just stands out, like, intensely in my mind
Sam:as in Priscilla Queen of the Desert.
Sam:When Guy Pearce shows up at the Miner's Town, like, all by himself, and you're
Sam:like, Oh my god, he's in serious trouble, and he gets chased, like, I find that
Bee:scene scary part.
Sam:Extraordinarily intense, and like, that scene is a standout in a
Sam:different, terrifying kind of a way, but like, that's a huge standout for me.
Bee:Wow, I went so much sexier than you did.
Bee:Yeah, I went with the
Sam:darkness.
Bee:Yeah, I went with Portrait of a Lady on Fire.
Bee:Zubruh, zubruh.
Bee:With the, you dreamt of me?
Bee:No, I thought of you.
Bee:What not a dry seat in the house, folks.
Bee:What a great line.
Sam:It's an amazing
Bee:line.
Bee:Their chemistry just off the charts.
Bee:I mean, I know we've used like scene stealing kind of loosely.
Bee:Really?
Bee:Really?
Bee:I would totally say their, their chemistry.
Bee:Mm-Hmm.
Bee:. Their,
Sam:yeah.
Sam:Their chemistry was like incredible.
Nathan:I went with, I went with the, another movie for, for scene
Nathan:steel award, and I went with Brent Carver's role as Countess.
Nathan:As the Countess in Lilies.
Nathan:Oh
Nathan:yeah.
Nathan:And
Nathan:I literally went with this because every moment that Brent Carver
Nathan:is in this movie, he stole the scene, this movie, he literally stole the scene.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:This is the reason why this movie.
Nathan:Is as good as it is for me Sam.
Nathan:And I think it's worth seeing because of Brent Carver in this movie.
Nathan:So he's incredible in this.
Nathan:And the reason why this movie is I actually bumped it up from a three
Nathan:to a three and a half last week because I just kept couldn't not get
Nathan:over how great he is in this film.
Nathan:And it made me sad.
Nathan:You know, a couple of years ago.
Nathan:And he didn't do a lot of films.
Nathan:He was mostly a theater actor as well.
Nathan:I came to find out and I, which I, that's wonderful, but I was kind of sad
Nathan:to realize this because I want to seek out more things that he did, but yeah.
Nathan:So yeah.
Nathan:There is an award that I overlooked that we've done the last couple of
Nathan:months that I totally forgot about.
Nathan:And I hope I don't, I don't mean to spring this on you, but we've done this before.
Nathan:So I'm going to kind of do it again.
Nathan:We have in the past done an award called best sidekick, which would be.
Nathan:An award for if you were going to go into battle,
Nathan:be
Nathan:your partner in crime, your, you know, your master to your blaster,
Nathan:your master,
Bee:Bernadette, baby.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:I was going to say, I was going to go with the, the low hanging fruit,
Sam:the phrase I just want to keep
Nathan:the theme from every month going.
Nathan:I mean,
Sam:and also Bernadette, like literally like.
Sam:Kicks that like she needs that guy like I mean, she's she shows her
Sam:her skill set on screen So yeah, that's it would have to be that
Nathan:you're right.
Nathan:That is kind of low hanging fruit, but I realized I forgot to include it
Nathan:Yeah, I think I'd have to do the same thing.
Bee:Yeah
Bee:That's a movie about sidekicks, right?
Bee:That's a movie about
Sam:yeah Friends
Bee:that have to that are like sort of friends Forced
Bee:into being sidekicks together.
Bee:It's two are already sidekicks.
Sam:Exactly.
Sam:It's like, it's thematically perfect, you know?
Bee:All
Nathan:right.
Nathan:So our fourth award, and this is be one that you suggested,
Nathan:which I think is great.
Nathan:Best costumes.
Bee:So relevant for, for me.
Bee:This series,
Nathan:Sam, do you have a one you'd like to submit for
Sam:probably be guy Pierce and Priscilla queen of the desert because every, he has
Sam:like six of them, you know what I mean?
Sam:Like,
Bee:and
Sam:they're all very loud.
Sam:Yeah.
Bee:Oh, I could watch guy Pierce on top of that bus just played music.
Bee:That was great.
Bee:I went with portrait for this one.
Bee:It's just so rich and
Bee:textured.
Bee:No, I, I mean, I love the green dress.
Bee:I also just love that color green.
Bee:It's its own character.
Nathan:Totally.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:You know, for me, this is a no brainer.
Nathan:It's the costumes in, in Priscilla.
Nathan:If I had to choose my favorite I, you know, cause I wanted to be specific.
Nathan:I forget which one that is, but if I, I there's, I think I'd go with the
Nathan:costumes that the trio are wearing when they are performing the song Finally,
Nathan:and they go through several wardrobe changes during this performance.
Nathan:First, there's those yellowish red flowers, then the black and
Nathan:blue peacocks, then the yellow desert lizards, I'll call it.
Nathan:And then the, then they have these fun.
Nathan:French, like 17th century, like King Louis, the eighth style outfits,
Nathan:the whole, the whole performance.
Nathan:And like the four or five wardrobe changes, they go for that entire song.
Nathan:It's only about three minutes or so long, but it's a.
Nathan:Feast for the eyes.
Nathan:And it's completely unforgettable that that scene.
Nathan:So I'm going with the cost, all the costume wardrobe changes for that
Nathan:song, which is the highlight one of the highlights of the movie for me.
Bee:I love it.
Nathan:So be, you still insist that we need to skip this next award.
Nathan:It's just too creepy.
Nathan:We just
Bee:rephrase it.
Bee:How do you want to rephrase
Nathan:this?
Bee:I would you say who would you
Sam:get to rebuild the air conditioning system in the shelter
Sam:structure to breathe better?
Sam:Technical nerds, sorry.
Sam:Let's go forget I said that go back to where your mind was right before that.
Sam:And then start over here.
Bee:Just going to say you can save one character.
Bee:Save
Nathan:one character, isn't that the same
Bee:thing?
Nathan:Save one character.
Nathan:I don't think about the
Bee:fallout shelter like you do.
Bee:I don't think I think we're thinking about it different.
Bee:Just save one character.
Sam:Save one character.
Bee:Yeah.
Bee:Who would you say?
Sam:Oh, man.
Sam:God, the definitely, definitely, definitely.
Sam:The, and I'm, I'm, my mind is completely blanking, but the main
Sam:character from portrait of a lady on fire, the lady on fire, the lady
Bee:character.
Sam:Yes, absolutely.
Sam:Yeah, you would have to definitely her.
Sam:Everybody else.
Sam:Sorry.
Bee:Suck it.
Nathan:This was, this is difficult because I don't know how much time
Nathan:I want to spend with many of the characters from these three movies,
Sam:or if we didn't spend it to the characters, you could just save
Sam:the bus from Priscilla, queen of the desert and like, we could weld it into
Sam:our shelter and have more space, you know, like, like build onto our house.
Nathan:It's, it's tough because we really don't ever get to know
Nathan:anybody's true identity in the, in the movie willies, except for.
Nathan:in the older version of Simone, and I'm not spoiling much Sam and
Nathan:neither of them seem like a good time.
Nathan:The entire cast of portrait of lady of fire, I think is loaded with
Nathan:trauma or some sort or another.
Nathan:And that leaves the cast of Priscilla.
Nathan:And I suppose.
Nathan:If I look at the entire cast Hugo Weaving's character seems like the
Nathan:type of person who, whose personality won't grate on me after a couple
Nathan:of years trapped in a bunker.
Sam:He
Nathan:provides live entertainment,
Nathan:but he's going to have to work on his lip syncing.
Bee:I, that is also my choice is Tick from Priscilla.
Nathan:Yeah.
Bee:He just seems the most, I don't know,
Nathan:he's most of the level of everybody.
Bee:Yeah.
Nathan:Like,
Bee:I just think I'd get on with him.
Bee:Yeah.
Nathan:There you go.
Bee:All right.
Bee:All right.
Bee:We got to rank them.
Nathan:Was that our last award?
Nathan:Let me look here.
Nathan:Okay.
Nathan:One
Bee:to buy on Blu ray.
Bee:If you had to pick a movie.
Bee:Oh, that was
Nathan:yours.
Nathan:One to buy on Blu ray.
Bee:Yeah.
Nathan:Is it?
Nathan:I feel like that's the same as like our number one movie maybe.
Nathan:Well, here's
Bee:my counterpoint.
Bee:I was just going to say, sometimes.
Bee:I'm like, you just want the quality of the movie.
Bee:You're like, you know what?
Bee:This is a movie that's just really pretty to look at.
Bee:And I kind of want it on 4K and I can throw it on the background,
Bee:but I don't necessarily mean that's that can be one of my motivators.
Bee:I don't know.
Sam:I hear that.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:So a blu
Nathan:ray or 4K, what movie am I going to drop 30 bucks on?
Nathan:Or 30, 20, 30 bucks on?
Bee:Pick one to buy.
Bee:Physical.
Bee:All right.
Bee:Pick
Nathan:one to buy.
Nathan:I'm going to jump in here, all right, because I actually do it
Nathan:like they're actually is a movie.
Nathan:That I am, I kind of like do have like saved in my two buy bin at some point and
Nathan:I'm been eyeballing it and it is Portrait of the Lady and fire the criterion.
Nathan:I I am looking at that.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Waiting for the Barnes and Noble sale to come through.
Nathan:'cause I, I really do wanna pick that up.
Bee:Yeah, same.
Bee:That, that is, that's one of those that's just beautiful to look at.
Bee:Yeah,
Sam:I would definitely, that's what I would buy as well.
Sam:Whether the criterion or just just the film, like just the, if it's available,
Sam:like I would definitely purchase that.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:So those are our awards.
Nathan:Any, any other superlatives we can think of?
Nathan:We did, we kind of like did this very quickly, actually, I feel like
Nathan:we had no production meeting between last week's episode and tonight.
Nathan:But this is fun.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:What a ranking.
Nathan:Let's rank these pretty quickly.
Nathan:Sam, you got two to rank.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:It'd be funny if you were
Nathan:Lily's number one.
Sam:Definitely number one, Lily's.
Sam:I'm going to take a gamble on it.
Sam:Like chips in Vegas.
Sam:No, just kidding.
Sam:One would absolutely by significant distance, not significant, but
Sam:by distance, top of the mountain portrait of a lady on fire.
Sam:Number two would be Priscilla Queen of the Desert, and alas, I mean, that would make
Sam:Lily's automatically three, but I haven't seen it, so I don't know, and I apologize.
Sam:What you don't know is that I've been fired, and that I won't be
Sam:able to No, I'm just kidding.
Sam:Yeah.
Nathan:I'll go.
Nathan:I mean, same, same, same order.
Nathan:A portrait was the crown jewel of this for this series for me.
Nathan:I love that movie.
Nathan:Portrait
Sam:is also portrait is on a cinematic level of like that's for me.
Sam:It's more cinematic than Priscilla Queen of the Desert, even though I like
Sam:Priscilla Queen of the Desert a lot.
Nathan:And Yeah, followed by Priscilla and, and Lily's Lily's.
Nathan:I was down.
Nathan:I, Sam, you, I know you weren't here last week, but I, I did not
Nathan:like it the first time I watched it.
Nathan:I watched it a second time and I got a lot more out of it.
Nathan:So it, it definitely requires your full attention is, was our assessment.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:Cause I was, cause I had seen that, that like, there was like, had a vague
Sam:comment that's like, sounded like the first viewing didn't like it.
Sam:And I was like, Oh, I I, I can't wait to listen to this cause I,
Sam:I enjoy it when you like trash a film, that's not the case this time.
Bee:No.
Bee:I have the same order.
Bee:I mean, it's, I don't really think it's a surprise or a secret that
Bee:portrait's up there for my number one.
Bee:But I will say, I think Lily's and Priscilla kind of like on the, on
Bee:par with each other, they're just two very different movies for me.
Bee:So.
Bee:There's not that big, there's a big distance for me from portrait
Bee:and the other two films, but it's a much smaller distance between
Sam:Portrait is on like Everest and the other two films sound like
Sam:they're on like Kilimanjaro or something like that, which is still
Sam:impressive, but it's not ever garbage
Bee:mountain.
Bee:I
Sam:picked that randomly by the way.
Bee:Hemingway?
Nathan:All right, so that is, that's kind of, I think it
Nathan:wraps up our June pride awards.
Nathan:Let's transition to our 2025 mid year top five, which is something I've been looking
Nathan:forward to for the last six months.
Nathan:We did this a year ago where we did our 2024 mid year top five.
Nathan:And I think only two, do you know what year
Sam:it is?
Sam:2024.
Sam:2024.
Sam:Yeah, I wrote
Nathan:down 20, 25,
Sam:you leaped into the future.
Sam:Like Avatar three is only six months away.
Sam:I'm still
Nathan:20.
Nathan:Tell us how twisters
Sam:was
Nathan:2024.
Nathan:We don't see
Sam:Jurassic world four by then.
Nathan:What I was trying to get to the point is that I remember last
Nathan:year we did this be, you went with us, but only two of my favorite.
Nathan:Films in my top five still made it onto my end of year list.
Nathan:So, well,
Bee:we've been Q1 is tough, right?
Bee:And we're finally, we've finally moved on from Q1 and, and now
Bee:we're leading into summer.
Bee:So I think there's a lot to look forward to.
Bee:There's been some gems this year, but I, I would say that the best is yet to come.
Sam:For sure.
Sam:Yeah, for sure.
Sam:All right.
Sam:So
Nathan:let's do this in.
Nathan:Why don't we just continue the same order we started in?
Nathan:We're going to go from five to one.
Nathan:And Sam, why don't you lead us off with your number five?
Sam:So my number five would be bad boys ride or die, which I just
Sam:saw when it came out two weeks ago.
Sam:Okay.
Sam:And I enjoyed it and I thought it was decent and it was just had,
Sam:it was not perfect, definitely some criticisms, but it had that
Sam:old school nineties action vibe.
Sam:So I thought it handled nostalgia in a, in a pretty good way.
Sam:So I enjoyed it.
Sam:Number five.
Nathan:So my dirty little secret is I've only seen the first bad boys.
Sam:If you only see one other bad boys film, see bad boys two
Sam:for like the most over the top.
Sam:Excessive action sequences in the it's like two and a half
Sam:hours of Bayhem and I love it
Bee:It's it's really the fast five of right of bad boys.
Sam:It's crazy.
Sam:Yeah, I
Nathan:know I I so I probably won't see this before it leaves the theaters But
Nathan:I will marathon all these one day is is my plan my number five is Dune part two,
Nathan:and I'm surprised this, you know, when I first saw this, this wasn't higher
Nathan:on my list, it's been slowly falling.
Nathan:And I think it's because I'm finding, as I find myself
Nathan:distanced from it, I am worried.
Nathan:I'm seeing a lot of the flaws in this movie.
Nathan:And the more I think about it, it has some pacing issues.
Nathan:I think I now think that Dune part one is a better movie in a lot of ways.
Nathan:And I don't know if that's a.
Nathan:Something that it's contentious, man, I don't know,
Sam:but I, I'm the, like, the polar opposite.
Sam:But yeah,
Nathan:I don't like how they tr how, and again, I, again, I'm not a
Nathan:huge fan of the David Lynch version.
Nathan:I have not read the books don't
Nathan:. But this is a really good movie.
Nathan:But the, as I distance myself from it, I find myself just kind
Nathan:of souring a little bit on it.
Nathan:It's the, the memory of it is not as strong as.
Nathan:I recall being, whereas the opposite with like Furiosa, which
Nathan:I was kind of like middling on it.
Nathan:And it's stronger as I think about it more, I find myself
Nathan:recalling things more and more.
Nathan:I like about it.
Nathan:I look forward to seeing this again.
Nathan:I'll probably watch both Dunes again, back to back someday, and I will find it.
Nathan:Watching as a whole, I think it will work better, but yeah, it is, it
Nathan:is it is my number five right now.
Nathan:I, I think they, they, they do mom dirty in this movie.
Nathan:I don't like what they do with I forget her character's name, but
Nathan:I don't really, I feel like she's, she's sidelined in a weird way.
Nathan:Why?
Sam:Oh my God, she's like front and center.
Sam:Like
Bee:we got to do an episode on part two, a doom part
Sam:two contentious episode.
Sam:That'd be incredible.
Sam:I need to
Nathan:understand
Bee:what
Nathan:you're talking
Bee:about with
Nathan:Rebecca Ferguson.
Nathan:I don't dislike this.
Nathan:It is my number five, but I might not be surprised if this falls out
Nathan:of my top 10 altogether by the end of the year, the way it's going.
Nathan:Interesting.
Nathan:Interesting.
Nathan:Yes, I know.
Nathan:I knew
Bee:interesting.
Bee:Well I'm in no place to talk because.
Bee:As the both of you know, I have been, I've had like a top seven and the bottom
Bee:three have all kind of like shifted and been vying for this fifth place.
Bee:Just sort of like the, the best of the middle and have sort of all come together.
Bee:So I've changed my mind a few times on this list now and I probably will again.
Bee:But I'm going to go, it's wide release was 2024.
Bee:I'm ignoring festival releases because I'm not a critic.
Bee:I'm going to say when I was able to see the movie, which was this year, Perfect
Bee:Day is Vin Vendor's number five for me.
Bee:Perfect day is more like perfect movie.
Nathan:And we were talking before we started recording, I, I squeezed
Nathan:us in at the last minute last night.
Nathan:And, and I was saying that this movie is tailor made for me.
Nathan:And I just had a, just a little bit of hard time finding it's it wasn't
Nathan:pulling at my heartstrings the way I wanted it to, and it should have.
Bee:I totally get that.
Nathan:Sam, what is your number four?
Sam:So hold on.
Sam:What's my number four is Jim Henson idea, man.
Sam:And I know that's a documentary, not a film, but like,
Sam:yeah,
Sam:I yeah, sorta.
Sam:No, just, of course it is.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:But I'm a big, like Ron Howard fan and I just, Was like happy to see
Sam:him sort of focusing on this and I like Jim Henson so much that like
Sam:whether this, this documentary was like stylistically perfect or had like
Sam:some flaws, just the subject matter.
Sam:I learned things about Jim Henson and I didn't know there
Sam:was so much archival footage.
Sam:I mean, it's easy for me to please, like, if you just strung the archival
Sam:footage of Jim Henson without a narrative, I still would have liked it.
Sam:So I am incredibly biased, huge Jim Henson fan, a huge Muppets
Sam:fan, but that definitely definitely made the list of like, I will
Sam:watch that again over the years.
Sam:That's why.
Sam:It made me
Bee:watch the Dark Crystal again.
Sam:I watched
Bee:it and then I was like, I just want to watch the dark crystal now.
Nathan:I do want to see this.
Nathan:What, what, what platform is this streaming on?
Nathan:I forget.
Nathan:Disney plus.
Nathan:It is Disney plus.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:This has been something I wanted to check out for a while.
Nathan:Great.
Nathan:My number two, I'm sorry.
Nathan:My number four.
Nathan:I, wow.
Nathan:You are in the
Bee:future,
Nathan:man.
Nathan:I am in the future.
Nathan:What's it
Bee:like?
Nathan:My number four is Inside Out 2.
Nathan:Wow.
Nathan:Yes.
Nathan:I really did like this movie a lot.
Nathan:It's.
Nathan:I, I think I did not like it as much as the first one and it did not, the first
Nathan:one, I will, I will all out weep over.
Nathan:I think it's a near perfect movie.
Nathan:And this one though, here's, here's the other thing.
Nathan:I have a daughter who was turning 13 and.
Nathan:This nails so many aspects of what I see her going through right now.
Nathan:I also see a lot of the flaws in this.
Nathan:There's, it is, it's, it's a small movie and I think that the first
Nathan:movie does a much better job I don't know if I articulate this the best
Nathan:way it opens up the world of what the inner psyche, the emotions can
Nathan:be in this movie really niches down in a way that I wish it didn't.
Nathan:I wish it expanded the world more.
Nathan:And I don't think this movie expands the world of the inner emotions as much.
Nathan:And this, this, it's a very small story in a way, but that's what I
Nathan:kind of like about also it's dealing with in some ways, a very mundane.
Nathan:Topic about a girl that's just turned 13.
Nathan:That's going off to this hockey camp.
Nathan:And it's just dealing with a very tiny, small story of this girl's life over
Nathan:the course of like two or three days.
Nathan:And it's introducing the, obviously the carriers of anxiety.
Nathan:My daughter, and I don't want to give too much away in my personal life,
Nathan:but it resonated so much with me.
Nathan:About what's been going on in my life and her life over the past year.
Nathan:So I sat next to her during this movie and we kept looking at each other this
Nathan:whole time and it's like, yeah, like so much of it, they nailed about what it
Nathan:means to be 13 and dealing with anxiety and you know, some depression sometimes
Nathan:and all these sorts of emotions that young teenagers are going through.
Nathan:So.
Nathan:You know, they, they, they nailed so much.
Nathan:Right.
Nathan:And it was a very emotional watch for both of us and, you
Nathan:know, what we've gone through.
Nathan:So, yeah, it is not a perfect movie.
Nathan:It's not as good as the first one, but it is, it definitely
Nathan:hit us very close to home.
Nathan:So that's why.
Nathan:I, I, I did love it a lot.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:So that's, I
Sam:look forward to seeing it.
Sam:I haven't seen it.
Sam:There's a, I got to play catch up.
Sam:There's a few movies out now that I really want to see.
Bee:So you're the sequels, man.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:Sequels
Nathan:be, what is your number four?
Bee:My number four is a movie that I saw earlier this year and it has stuck
Bee:in my craw ever since is our cautious Stevenson's the first omen, right?
Bee:You're the sequels prequels.
Bee:This was.
Bee:Incredible.
Bee:I love horror movies and Nathan, we were talking about earlier, this has been
Bee:a prolific year for the genre robust.
Bee:I wouldn't say it's all all worth paying to go see it in the
Bee:theater, but, and it never is.
Bee:But the first omen is, is the rare.
Bee:Prequel, and I'm sure there's another one in here that we'll talk about
Bee:that, that exp that could stand on its own legs and be its own thing.
Bee:And not only that, it's a movie with a message I think it says a lot about
Bee:women's rights, about reproductive rights it's a damn good horror on its own but it
Bee:also makes the other Omen movies great.
Bee:And it's just, it's shot so beautifully.
Bee:It's really just beautiful to look at.
Nathan:Excellent.
Nathan:I want to see this.
Nathan:I about two years ago, I watched all the Ullman movies over one weekend.
Nathan:So I need to watch this soon while they're all fresh in my head.
Bee:Yeah.
Nathan:Okay.
Nathan:So Sam, we are on to.
Nathan:Number, you're number three.
Sam:So my number three at present would be a movie called Land of Bad.
Sam:Starring Russell Crowe, Liam Hensworth, came out in February.
Sam:And I wanted to mention it cause like in the, you know, the
Sam:first six months of like 2024.
Sam:I mean, I'm sure it's already forgotten, but I liked it.
Sam:I thought it was, it reminded me of like a nineties action movie.
Sam:I thought there was some decent moments in the script.
Sam:I like Liam Hensworth.
Sam:Some parts of the climax I had issue with, but I thought Russell Crowe was excellent.
Sam:It was a pleasant surprise.
Sam:I was not expecting it to be good, and I went to the movie theater, like,
Sam:out of total boredom that evening, and I genuinely enjoyed the movie.
Sam:I'll absolutely watch it again when it comes out on
Sam:streaming, if it not already is.
Nathan:Nice.
Nathan:Excellent.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:My number three is late night with the devil.
Bee:Oh, that's been on my list.
Bee:Yes.
Nathan:I mentioned this a couple, maybe a month ago on the
Nathan:pod or three, four weeks ago.
Nathan:This movie is still stuck with me.
Nathan:It's, it's, it's such a throwback movie.
Nathan:It's about a late night shot talk show host.
Nathan:And it's all shot like, like found footage, but it's like
Nathan:the lost episode of the show.
Nathan:Cool.
Nathan:It's such a unique film.
Nathan:It's a lot of fun.
Nathan:I highly recommend it.
Nathan:It is it's, it's stuck with me ever.
Nathan:I really think this will probably still stay in my top 10 of the year.
Nathan:What's his name?
Nathan:D Dasmalchian.
Nathan:What's his first name in he is so good.
Nathan:He needs to get more roles.
Nathan:Love this film.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Both of you, you guys are going to see it.
Nathan:Yeah.
Bee:Yeah.
Bee:Late night
Nathan:with the devil.
Nathan:I think it's on, it's on Shudder.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Yeah, I almost watched
Bee:it this weekend, but my partner decided that it would be too spooky.
Bee:It's not, it's
Nathan:really not that scary at all.
Bee:Okay.
Nathan:It's not that kind of movie.
Nathan:No.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:B, what is your number three?
Bee:My number three, Luca Guadagnino Challengers.
Bee:I was shocked by how much I love this movie.
Bee:I've been a little on the fence with Zendaya, but I, I love Mike
Bee:Feist, so I was excited to see this.
Bee:It blew me away.
Bee:I thought the performances were all great.
Bee:The soundtrack, this is some of the best Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross work
Bee:I've heard in a film in a long time.
Bee:Might be their top ever.
Bee:It is thrilling.
Bee:Thumping.
Bee:It was great to hear in a theater.
Bee:Some of the camera work felt so fresh and exciting and new.
Bee:I loved Guadalino's take on Suspiria and I, this is up there with that for me.
Bee:I thought it was great.
Bee:And I An evangelist for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
Sam:I've really got to see it.
Sam:I mean, it got really good reviews too.
Sam:So, I mean, I was definitely interested.
Bee:It's a great movie about competition.
Sam:Nice.
Sam:Yep.
Nathan:All right, Sam, you're number two.
Sam:So my number two would have to be Furiosa.
Sam:You know, halfway through the year.
Sam:Definitely a fan of the Mad Max franchise.
Sam:I thought it was a very, like, worthy entry.
Sam:Not perfect, but for this first half of the year, it's definitely
Sam:would take the second spot.
Sam:Like, no question.
Sam:It's really too damn bad that it didn't perform at least decently.
Sam:It's, it's not done well at the box office, and I know that, like, puts
Sam:a halt either, like, for a while or permanently, or I guess we'll see what
Sam:happens on Mad Max The Wasteland, but I'm just always game to return to that world.
Sam:And you know, so it's frustrating, but the, I, the movie does have
Sam:some really great epic moments.
Bee:It was, that was a fun time at the theater.
Sam:It was, it really was.
Bee:It was just a fun time.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:My number two is also challengers.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Well, your number three was challenges for all the reasons you already mentioned.
Nathan:B.
Nathan:Yeah, I also think this might be, Reznor's and Atticus Ross Atticus
Nathan:Ross's crowning achievement as well.
Nathan:First thing I, when I think of this movie I, I cannot get out of my head
Nathan:the, the soundtrack to this, how it, I don't want to say it assaults you, but
Nathan:it, it just, it kind of, kind of, yeah,
Sam:they do the soundtrack for the social network.
Sam:Oh
Nathan:yeah.
Nathan:Mm-Hmm.
Nathan:. Sam: Like I, I, I love the music in that movie.
Nathan:And that's a further endorsement of why I have to see challengers.
Nathan:But like, and,
Bee:Girl With a Dragon Tattoo.
Bee:The Fincher girl with a Dragon tattoo.
Bee:Oh yeah.
Bee:Nice.
Nathan:But not in a bad way.
Nathan:Like it, honestly, I'm watched this movie and I found myself, my, my just
Nathan:pulse is racing through this movie.
Nathan:Mm-Hmm.
Nathan:. Even for during times where like, there's not much happening.
Nathan:Like
Nathan:Mm-Hmm.
Nathan:. Nathan: It's tense.
Nathan:It, it, it is.
Nathan:And.
Nathan:Amazing cinematography.
Nathan:I saw things in this movie shots.
Nathan:This movie I've never seen before in a movie
Nathan:ever.
Nathan:You know, the, the tennis scenes are shot incredibly well.
Nathan:That ball is coming right at you at times.
Nathan:And I know it's a CGI effect, but like, I've never seen tennis shot this way.
Nathan:It's really, really incredible.
Nathan:So, and I'd like to start,
Bee:I've never seen tennis film that way.
Bee:And I grew up in Rhode Island, so if I'm in
Nathan:tennis was my sport in high school too.
Nathan:So
Bee:yeah,
Nathan:it was I had a great time with this movie.
Bee:Oh, I'm so glad.
Bee:I loved that movie.
Bee:Yeah.
Nathan:So yeah, a lot of fun with challengers.
Nathan:Yeah, it is my number two so far this year.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:So B tell me, tell us what your number two is.
Bee:Nathan, we disagree on this movie, but my number two is I saw the TV glow.
Bee:I was
Bee:glued to the screen in this movie.
Bee:Something, well, nothing really was happening in the movie.
Bee:And I just noticed myself totally enchanted, totally on the
Bee:wavelength of what was happening.
Bee:We mentioned, I loved we're all going to the world's fair.
Bee:I think it was incredible.
Bee:One of the most unnerving films I've ever seen.
Bee:I don't know that this is that good for me, but it's definitely
Bee:one of the best of the year.
Bee:I think it's so important for, for folks around our age.
Bee:This says a lot about dysphoria.
Bee:It says a lot about media.
Bee:It says a lot about consumption of media and how we attach ourselves
Bee:to it and see ourselves through the lens of what we consume.
Bee:And shape ourselves by it and how we stand by that as we, as we shift and
Bee:change and it does it all through the lens of the super creepy story.
Bee:It's a little twin peaks.
Bee:It's a little, are you afraid of the dark?
Bee:I was so sold on board.
Nathan:I was, I was going to mention this in the next segment and I'm moving
Nathan:music because I did catch up on this.
Nathan:This did not.
Nathan:Make my top five.
Nathan:I don't know what to make of this movie.
Nathan:I wasn't connecting with it because you know, it's funny.
Nathan:This movie is, is geared toward,
Nathan:you know, my
Nathan:generation.
Nathan:Yeah, absolutely.
Nathan:And you know, maybe I wasn't a usual teenager.
Nathan:You know, I was for, I'm, it's firmly steeped in early nineties and
Nathan:this nostalgia WB shows like Buffy,
Nathan:you know,
Nathan:X Files, all these things.
Nathan:You know, I, many.
Nathan:You know, I, you know, early nineties, sci fi films, sliders, X Files.
Nathan:I was in, I wasn't really always into the culture of trading tapes with friends.
Nathan:And maybe that's why I wasn't a big TV watcher.
Nathan:Perhaps it was more of a movie person.
Nathan:I just wasn't really finding what this movie was trying to say.
Nathan:Maybe it's what it was.
Nathan:And I was just struggling with it.
Nathan:It's glacially paced is one thing.
Nathan:But the visual aesthetic and ambition of this movie is there.
Nathan:And there was, was really cool to see this movie.
Nathan:I just really could not figure out what I was trying to take away from this.
Nathan:I don't know.
Nathan:I'm really glad you liked this movie.
Nathan:A lot of people are.
Nathan:Glowing over this film.
Nathan:And that's wonderful.
Nathan:I just could not figure out what was going on.
Nathan:That's okay.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Anyways, that's it.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:So yeah, our number one, Sam, what do you, is your number one?
Sam:So for me, just far away and above for the first half of 2024
Sam:would definitely be Dune part two.
Sam:I loved it.
Sam:I thought it was.
Sam:An improvement on the first film, I'm like the, the, the like total antithesis, like
Sam:there's, there's a game called actually, nevermind that metaphor is terrible I'm
Sam:just going to reference a video game, but yeah, I, I like doing part two to a lot.
Sam:I thought it fleshed out.
Sam:A lot of action and scenes in the book, like it brought them to visual life.
Sam:I actually saw it.
Sam:I mean, I saw it in IMAX, but I saw it again recently
Sam:on like a regular TV screen.
Sam:And I was surprised at how well the story translated and the images held up.
Sam:Even on a smaller screen, I even noticed more details in some moments.
Sam:Cause I wasn't so like overwhelmed by the size of the visuals, but that.
Sam:I would say hands down Dune part two so far this year.
Sam:I actually thought I really liked how the Rebecca Ferguson character was handled.
Sam:I thought it was, I mean, I I'm a big fan of the book.
Sam:I thought they did that well.
Sam:So yeah, that I would, I would definitely give it that.
Sam:And it's, it's in, in terms of like production and visual and
Sam:style, it's like Epic and scale.
Sam:I'm like Lord of the Rings.
Sam:It's like a Lord of the Rings level film in 2024.
Sam:So that would be number one for me.
Nathan:Okay.
Nathan:Great, so is it me?
Bee:Mm hmm.
Nathan:All right, my number one film so far
Nathan:Madame Webb Just kidding.
Nathan:Just kidding.
Nathan:No, my number one.
Sam:We definitely needed a Samuel Jackson sound effect right there.
Sam:Like what the f
Nathan:My number one film so far is Love Lies Bleeding.
Bee:That was a great movie.
Nathan:Which I think I even mentioned two, three weeks ago is my favorite
Nathan:film of the year so far still.
Nathan:So if you've been listening to the show, you already know this.
Nathan:Yeah, I, I love this movie.
Nathan:It is it reminds me a lot of the Coen brothers aesthetic and Kristen
Nathan:Stewart, I think is great in this.
Nathan:And I'm already blanking on the other actresses name off the top of my head,
Nathan:cause I didn't do my research this week, but their, their chemistry is amazing.
Nathan:I just, I love the story.
Nathan:I don't know.
Nathan:This is my favorite film of the year.
Bee:This was vying for fifth for me because it's so good and it's so it's
Bee:just so tight like it just feels so clean for how bold and creative some
Bee:of the decisions are in this film.
Bee:Yeah, Katie O'Brien is, is who plays Countner, Kristen
Bee:Stewart, and she, she crushes it.
Nathan:She does.
Nathan:Sam, I think you would really like this movie a lot too.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:If you get around, when you get around to this.
Sam:And I, I bet, I would definitely want to see it.
Bee:Sam, you're walking away from here with a big list.
Sam:Sorry?
Bee:You're walking away from here with a big list.
Sam:Yeah, exactly.
Bee:My I love, I love low
Nathan:rent, you know, crime movies.
Nathan:That's, that's really what it comes down to, where.
Nathan:Where the, everyone's really incompetent, you know?
Sam:So did you like that Steven Soderbergh film with,
Sam:with God, I'm brain dead.
Sam:With Adam Driver, the, the heist movie.
Sam:And, and Bond was in it, Daniel Craig was in it, James Bond.
Sam:Oh
Nathan:Logan
Sam:Luckey?
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:Logan lucky.
Sam:Did you like that film?
Sam:That's like low end heist.
Nathan:I don't think I saw it actually.
Sam:Oh man.
Sam:You would like it.
Sam:It's that was, that was, was positively received.
Sam:Good film.
Sam:Yeah.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:So B we're up to your number one.
Bee:Well it's a little anticlimactic because Sam and
Bee:I have the same number one.
Bee:It's doing part two.
Bee:Surprisingly.
Bee:It's so, so good.
Bee:I had been anticipating it.
Bee:Yeah.
Bee:All year.
Bee:It did just get topped at the box office.
Bee:It got crushed by inside out too, but you know, we had a good run.
Bee:We had a good run.
Sam:It's a good run.
Bee:I'll take it.
Sam:Excellent quality.
Nathan:All
Sam:right.
Nathan:So that is our 2024 mid year top five.
Nathan:It'll be really interesting to see which of these films stay in our top 10 or
Nathan:what drops out or where, how far any of these fall by the end of the year.
Sam:There's more to come in 2024.
Nathan:Find out
Sam:by listening to Back
Nathan:to the Framerate.
Nathan:Any honorable mentions you'd like to bring up?
Bee:Yeah, for sure.
Bee:Let's see.
Sam:Lyle Crocodile.
Sam:Sorry, that was 2023.
Bee:Yeah, nevermind.
Bee:Remember that movie?
Bee:Yeah, there were, like I said, there were a lot of movies that
Bee:were kind of vying for the middle.
Bee:I thought Monkey Man was a great.
Bee:I know Jordan Peele had a lot to, to do on that movie, but
Bee:I was really excited by it.
Bee:You know, we've, the ultra violence is back in theaters in a
Bee:big way and it's, it's just fun.
Bee:And I loved seeing some fist fighting instead of some gun fighting.
Bee:I thought that was great.
Sam:I also thought that that Roland Emmerich really upped his game.
Sam:With Moonfall part two, I just was just, I loved it.
Sam:I thought it was, I thought it was improvement visually storytelling wise.
Bee:So far this movie, I'm just excited to see a lot of movies
Bee:that are like pretty good.
Bee:You know, that's what we need.
Bee:Just some, some movies in the system.
Bee:Hit man.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Hit me.
Nathan:I, you know, I, I will mention a few hit man was, would, if we had a top
Nathan:10 list, which we don't have hit men might be on the very outer reaches of
Nathan:my top 10 civil war, civil war might be.
Nathan:Way in up there.
Nathan:I like civil war, even though we kind of talked about a
Nathan:little bit as being problematic.
Nathan:I did still like it.
Nathan:And Abigail was a horror movie from I think March or April.
Nathan:I liked it a lot as well.
Nathan:Considered that briefly, there was a movie that would probably be my number
Nathan:six that I really debated on, but I just couldn't knock off doing two.
Nathan:I think there would be revolt amongst both of you.
Nathan:It is an Adam Sandler movie, which I think would just be called spaceman that
Nathan:came out in February, which I loved.
Nathan:And.
Nathan:And I really thought about keeping it on my list somehow.
Nathan:It's a really touching, bittersweet movie about a man that is isolated in
Nathan:space and he befriends this giant spider.
Nathan:And we don't know if he's imagining it or if he's, if it's, if that spider's really
Nathan:there, but it's, he's, is he going crazy?
Nathan:In the solitude, it did not get the greatest reviews, but I love it.
Nathan:What Adam Sandler is working like in that register of a dramatic role.
Nathan:It's no uncut gems, but I do like it when he's kind of flexing the dramatic chops.
Nathan:And I think it's, I think it's a solid effort from him.
Nathan:So that was something that I considered in my top five.
Nathan:And there was one other movie that I thought about, which was pretty
Nathan:good and it's called Suncoast, which was a Sundance movie that came
Nathan:quickly to, I think, Hulu with Woody Harrelson, which I liked a lot as well.
Nathan:Um, but yeah, so those are ones that probably might round out my
Nathan:top 10 or 11 if we were doing that.
Bee:Yeah.
Bee:For me, it was Evil does not exist.
Bee:That came really close.
Bee:I love drive my car.
Bee:Evil does not exist.
Bee:Didn't really touch drive my car for me, but it was it's a movie that I,
Bee:I find myself thinking about a lot.
Bee:It stayed in my memory.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:How about this?
Nathan:Any, what is your biggest disappointment of the year so far?
Bee:Um,
Bee:bike riders.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:You were saying before.
Nathan:Yeah.
Bee:I was pretty bummed by bike riders.
Bee:I love.
Bee:A dude's rock movie.
Bee:I am here for that, but the bike riders, it was so strong in the first half.
Bee:It's, it's not casting.
Bee:It's not pacing.
Bee:It's not any of that.
Bee:I think it really comes down to the story it chose to tell.
Bee:It just was a little bit messy.
Bee:And it really felt like everyone knew they were in a movie.
Bee:If that makes sense.
Bee:It just felt like it had the self awareness.
Bee:That I found deeply unattractive in the whole thing.
Bee:So I'm just, and if it just felt very run of the mill, I think it could have
Bee:been done a lot more interestingly.
Bee:So I was bummed.
Bee:I was really looking forward to that one.
Sam:I do want to see that.
Sam:I got to check it out.
Sam:I mean, it's not like a
Bee:bad movie.
Bee:It just didn't live up to the hype for me.
Nathan:All right, Sam, is there anything that you saw that we were disappointed
Nathan:with or you're just not big enough?
Sam:Oh God.
Sam:I, I mean, I, I was, I, I didn't hate it, but I was disappointed.
Sam:In, in civil war, I thought the scene with Jesse Plemons was like
Sam:incredible and I thought, thought if that scene in the middle of the film
Sam:had been like expanded into a more like real time, like situational,
Sam:like dramatic thriller with them.
Sam:But, but, I mean, that was, I didn't hate it, but I would say
Sam:it would probably be that film.
Nathan:No, I get it.
Nathan:That movie, the trailers lied to us.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:Yeah,
Nathan:I get it.
Nathan:Yeah,
Sam:it wasn't bad though.
Sam:Like it was still, I mean, it had some incredible scenes like, and I liked all
Sam:the actors, like, I mean, that they were, you know, like Kirsten Dunst was amazing.
Sam:I just, it just, it was not the film I was kind of expecting.
Bee:Yeah.
Bee:Nathan, I think I know what yours is.
Bee:Can I try and guess?
Nathan:You can guess.
Nathan:I've been very vocal about it.
Bee:Is it Drive Away Dolls?
Nathan:Yeah,
Bee:yeah.
Bee:The movie that could have been Love Lives Bleeding.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:What is next on our agenda?
Nathan:Because I know we're already going on a long year tonight for, for this episode.
Bee:Want to talk about some movies we're looking forward to?
Bee:Yeah, let's do that.
Bee:I've got
Nathan:nothing prepared but twisters
Sam:and, and um, quiet place, day one.
Bee:Done.
Bee:Nice, nice.
Bee:Not the crow.
Bee:I'm not looking forward to the crow.
Bee:Oh,
Sam:alien.
Sam:Romulus.
Sam:Sorry.
Sam:Alien Romulus.
Nathan:Oh yeah, that's, I am looking forward to Alien Romulus as well.
Bee:I've got a big, long list.
Bee:I don't have anything but Nosferatu is up there.
Nathan:You shared the trailer for that and I can't wait.
Nathan:I, I like Robert Eggers sometimes
Nathan:I can't wait.
Nathan:And like I was saying when I responded to you, I hope it's
Nathan:more witch in, in less Lighthouse.
Bee:We'll see.
Bee:Yes.
Bee:I, I love, I love light.
Bee:Huge fan.
Bee:The witch, not
Sam:as much the lighthouse, but yeah.
Sam:Oh,
Bee:I loved the lighthouse.
Bee:So I'm, I'm here for whatever he wants to give me.
Bee:Talk about sequels, Gladiator 2, I'm, I'm thinking about it.
Bee:I'm intrigued,
Sam:definitely intrigued by that.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:Hopefully, like cautiously optimistic, I'll say.
Bee:Yep.
Bee:Maxine, I'm excited to see this trilogy round out.
Bee:I thought X and Pearl were, Great.
Bee:So I'm excited to see where they go.
Bee:And then there's more Smile 2 kinds of things, but really War of the Rohirrim.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:Definitely looking forward to that.
Sam:And there's, I, there's more too, for me, I just don't have my list, but I'm,
Sam:I'm sure there'll be something radical.
Nathan:There's, the next Joker movie, Follet Adieu, is, I'm looking
Nathan:forward to that a little bit.
Nathan:I do like the
Sam:trailer.
Bee:Gaga's Chromatica Ball dropped on HBO Max.
Sam:Nice.
Bee:It's exciting.
Sam:Oh, and I mean Rings of Power season two I'll definitely be watching that.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Oh yeah.
Nathan:Mm hmm.
Nathan:I should have had up our most anticipated movies of 2024 list.
Nathan:I had it at one time.
Nathan:I'm curious.
Nathan:Ah, and see how we did.
Bee:How we're
Nathan:doing so far.
Bee:Yeah.
Nathan:Maybe I'll pull that up and edit this out.
Bee:I really want to see.
Bee:Might be quite a lot to edit out.
Nathan:No, I'm going to pull that up here.
Nathan:It's.
Nathan:Actually, I posted it to our Instagram.
Nathan:Let's see if I can easily pull this up here.
Nathan:I made a whole fun graphic out of it.
Nathan:Nope, that's Kevin Bacon, who we follow.
Nathan:Alright, here we go.
Nathan:But does he follow us?
Nathan:I'm really
Sam:looking forward to Argyle 2.
Nathan:Here we go.
Nathan:Top 20, 2024 most anticipated films in no particular order.
Nathan:B, yours was Bob Marley, One Love.
Bee:Damn, it really stunk too.
Nathan:Driveway Dolls, Beetlejuice 2,
Bee:Oh yeah!
Nathan:The Book of Clarence,
Sam:Beetlejuice 2.
Bee:I didn't see that.
Nathan:Furiosa, Dune Part 2, The Bike Riders, Mickey 17, which
Nathan:we won't get until next year.
Nathan:We won't
Bee:get.
Nathan:Gladiator 2, and The Lord of the Rings, The War of You know,
Bee:I think I didn't know a lot of what was going to be
Bee:announced, but yeah, one love it.
Bee:I mean, when is a biopic ever really?
Bee:Oh, twisters.
Sam:Definitely.
Sam:Yeah.
Nathan:And Sam, your top, your 10 anticipated films
Nathan:were Civil War, Gladiator 2.
Nathan:Beetlejuice 2, Alien Romulus, Twisters, Deadpool 3, A Quiet Place Day 1, Dune
Nathan:Part 2, Furiosa, and Inside Out 2.
Sam:That's right.
Sam:I have not seen it yet.
Bee:You know what this really highlights for me is how early, like, sequels,
Bee:legacy sequels, prequels and stuff start advertising, and then we're, you know, we
Bee:just learn about other movies, sort of.
Bee:Oh
Nathan:yeah, I mean, for us to do this list January, I mean, we
Nathan:don't even know half the movies are going to come out this year.
Sam:Mufasa the Lion King could be good, honestly.
Nathan:You know what?
Nathan:I was, I was so pissed.
Nathan:I'm watching Inside Out 2 and the two trailers are the Mufasa trailer and Moana.
Nathan:It's like, you know, this Disney They're catching in on us.
Nathan:I know.
Nathan:Damn, you know, all right.
Nathan:So my top 10, man, my, my 10 anticipated films were the bike riders, alien Romulus,
Nathan:civil war, Mickey 17, driveway dolls, horizon and American saga one and two,
Nathan:which I still am looking forward to.
Nathan:Cause I want
Sam:to see that.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:I
Nathan:love a West, like the Western American epic any day of the week.
Nathan:Alto nights Deadpool three for Yosa in dune two.
Nathan:And just because it's on this page as well here, we have Ellie's top 10
Nathan:was the Book of Clarence, Civil War, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes,
Nathan:The Bike Riders, Dune 2, Joker 2, Beetlejuice 2, Deadpool 3, Ballerina.
Nathan:Did Ballerina get pushed?
Nathan:Ballerina got pushed, didn't it, next year I think?
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Yeah, and Bob Marley, One Love.
Bee:Ellie I think liked Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes though.
Bee:I think so.
Bee:I feel bad.
Bee:It seems to be genuinely well
Sam:liked.
Sam:Yeah, it's actually did.
Sam:It was the movie that actually did decently in the May of
Sam:like box office emptiness,
Bee:something had to,
Nathan:all right.
Nathan:Is there anything else in my list?
Nathan:This is just one, we've
Bee:just dropped a lot of movies at this point.
Bee:We have, if you've kept up with all the movies, is Cause we've
Bee:just name dropped a lot of movies.
Sam:I'm really looking forward to driving Miss Daisy to
Sam:visiting, visiting the grave.
Sam:It's going to be good.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:I think I feel like I want to acknowledge one thing.
Nathan:I don't really have that much to say about this or done any research
Nathan:on it, but I feel like we should acknowledge the passing of Donald
Nathan:Sutherland, which happened a couple of days ago, which is unfortunate.
Nathan:The only thing that is kind of unfortunate is I realized as I'm.
Nathan:You know, I was very sad about this, but I realized that there are very few movies
Nathan:that I realized that I can think of that.
Nathan:Like I kind of remember him from, he's, he's such, he kind of became
Nathan:a character actor later in his life.
Nathan:Not really character actor, but he was always played like the, like the father
Nathan:figure or like a villain or had only like a scene or two in big budget movies.
Nathan:And he was, of course he was, Great in the movie mash and invasion of the
Nathan:body snatchers, which I think was like 78, but he quickly kind of became, uh,
Nathan:not a leading man, you know, once the eighties came around and I was trying to
Nathan:think about what are the iconic movies.
Nathan:And I was wondering if you guys have any thoughts on other, any films that are
Nathan:favorites of yours with Donald Sutherland.
Sam:I mean, iconic would definitely be mash, but I mean, that that'd be way up
Sam:there, you know, but there's a lot of films that he's in that I like, like,
Bee:yeah, same.
Bee:So for me, Fellini's Casanova.
Bee:Is a big one.
Bee:He starred in that one.
Bee:I love Fellini.
Bee:I think Donald Sutherland is great.
Bee:But you know, of course, Invasion of the Body Snatchers is the iconic one for me.
Bee:I think that's sort of where I was introduced to him.
Bee:Don't Look Now.
Bee:That's a great one.
Bee:I mean, I like him as
Sam:president snow in the hunger games for me.
Sam:That was, yeah, yeah,
Bee:for sure.
Sam:And honorable mention to backdraft, not the best movie,
Sam:but the Ron Howard fire movie.
Sam:I liked him as the villain in that,
Nathan:but that's kind of the role that he fell into.
Nathan:Over the last 40 plus years is small villain roles or
Sam:yeah, like he's always a small villain.
Sam:Like he was the, the, the, the bad general and outbreak with Dustin Hoffman.
Sam:And I liked him.
Sam:I really liked him in that like a supporting kind of a role.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:And he had a great, great small role in like JFK, which was like one scene.
Nathan:Yes.
Nathan:It
Sam:was a huge scene.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:So he like, yeah.
Sam:He's like, here's what's all the secrets.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:And, but man, the guy had some of the best eyebrows in Hollywood,
Nathan:so that's, you know what, and it's
Bee:just like there's not a lot of role, you know?
Bee:I think he probably aged out of a lot of interesting roles, which is too bad.
Bee:But I'm glad we got to see him in some great movies for as long as we did.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:One of the last movies he did, well, he did, he had small parts in
Nathan:moonfall, which you mentioned a couple of moments ago and, and at Astra,
Nathan:I think he had a small role in too.
Nathan:So good stuff in, in small roles, but always.
Nathan:Brought his a game, so he will definitely be missed.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Awesome.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:The last thing here is let's see anything else here.
Nathan:Now we're going to not do that.
Nathan:We did movies.
Nathan:We're looking forward to, I think that's about it.
Nathan:Right?
Nathan:Sounds good.
Nathan:Sounds good.
Nathan:Back to the frame rate.
Nathan:We're just going to cap capture that.
Nathan:That'll be our new theme song.
Nathan:Part of the Western media podcast.
Nathan:I know.
Nathan:What are we doing next month?
Nathan:What's July?
Nathan:It's summer.
Nathan:Are you guys excited for this?
Nathan:No, this is your, this is your dream come true, Sam, right?
Sam:Seeing twisters.
Nathan:No,
Bee:no.
Bee:What we're
Sam:doing on the pod.
Sam:Our, our, our, our, our theme for the pod.
Sam:Oh God.
Sam:Yes.
Sam:You mean you mean like what's coming up directly next?
Sam:Yeah, it's got to be, it's going to be kind of a, we're doing 80s
Nathan:summer comedies, like How do we get to this?
Nathan:This is, I know how we got to
Bee:this Nathan.
Bee:We all sat together and you had the most niche Vision for what
Bee:could classify as a summer movie.
Bee:You're like, it has
Sam:to take place on a beach, not a cove, not an inlet.
Sam:It's a beach movie.
Sam:There can be no camp,
Bee:but it can't be a camp from the nineties.
Bee:It has to be the eighties and it has to be adult, but not too raunchy.
Bee:Anyway, now somehow we're doing an earnest movie and I don't feel awesome about it,
Bee:but I am going to go in with an open mind.
Bee:So.
Sam:I can't wait for Ernest Goes to Camp.
Sam:I've been watching clips from it.
Sam:It's going to be, it's going to be amazing.
Sam:So this is the most,
Bee:yeah, this is the self indulgent thing.
Bee:Nathan's done for the part.
Nathan:We're watching Ernest Goes to Camp.
Nathan:The 87, I think we have the late, we have the late eighties coverage.
Nathan:Ernest goes to camp the great outdoors, which means Sam actually have a lot
Nathan:of nostalgia for B you've never seen.
Nathan:You are
Sam:ever on TV, remote drop.
Sam:That's all I'm going to say.
Nathan:And we're wrapping up July with weekend at Bernie's.
Sam:It's going to be great.
Nathan:Yeah, so I actually am
Sam:very much looking forward to this summer.
Sam:This is like, check your mind, like at the vehicle and walk
Sam:to the beach without a brain.
Sam:Like I'm, I'm looking forward to it.
Nathan:I mean, look, I mean, we we've earned this.
Nathan:We have watched these winter survival movies.
Nathan:We watched Christopher Nolan movies.
Nathan:We watched these epic, you know, Romances, sweeping romances of,
Nathan:you know, take place over decades
Bee:as a reward for hard work.
Nathan:No, seriously.
Nathan:Do you know how much research I'm going to do for these movies?
Nathan:Like, I'm going to sit on my couch, like Al Bundy with my hand, like down my shorts
Nathan:and like doing like, with like, with like, A big gulp, and like, with no notebook,
Sam:and I do think of it as a vacation like it's a fun vacation, like reward.
Sam:I may also visit the earnest place where they shot the camp in like South Carolina
Sam:for a future walks of world episode.
Sam:I think it was South Carolina, but there are, I have watched videos on YouTube.
Sam:They go back there.
Sam:Like it's a classic I can't
Bee:wait.
Bee:Quit now I'll try.
Bee:So I have not, the only one of these movies I've seen this
Bee:weekend at Bernie's and it's been.
Bee:Well, over a decade, I'd say 15 to 20 years since I've seen it.
Sam:The good news is I can definitely say we picked the better of the earnest
Sam:films like Earnest Saves Christmas, even though it's a box office hit,
Sam:is not as good as my we will never
Nathan:watch Earnest Saves Christmas on this podcast.
Nathan:Yeah, OK.
Bee:OK.
Bee:You said we'd never watch an earnest movie like three months ago.
Bee:And here we are.
Bee:So it's
Sam:good.
Sam:It's it's Ernest goes to jail is good goes to camp is good, I do not like the
Sam:Halloween one Ernest scared stupid, I thought that, saw that in the theater
Sam:in 1991, but I have not yet seen Ernest rides again, which is one where he like,
Sam:meets up with a professor and like, goes after this like, Arthurian Jewel or no,
Sam:it's like an American something, but I, I, I have to, as a completionist,
Sam:I have to finish the series, but
Nathan:you're going to need a spinoff podcast.
Sam:Chris goes to campus where it all started because the Disney CEO, he saw
Sam:Mickey Mouse at Disneyland, like walking amongst kids and then Ernest came out and
Sam:he got bigger applause than Mickey Mouse.
Sam:So the CEO was like, we needed an earnest film and that's how that happened.
Sam:So I'm going to try,
Bee:I'm going to genuinely go in with an open mind.
Bee:I'm going to try historically.
Bee:This is not a great decade for women or quick people.
Bee:So we'll see.
Bee:That's why we're
Nathan:limiting it to just three movies.
Nathan:You know,
Bee:at
Nathan:least we're, at least we're avoiding probably
Nathan:like the really offensive.
Bee:Yeah, no, they could be good.
Bee:We got a Bernie's.
Bee:I remember we're not doing like revenge
Nathan:of the nerds or.
Bee:Yeah, vacation.
Nathan:Ski school.
Nathan:There must be a movie called ski school.
Nathan:We could be watching.
Sam:1990s ski patrol.
Sam:Yeah,
Nathan:that.
Sam:Saw that up here.
Sam:But yeah.
Nathan:Just one of the guys.
Nathan:What year was just one of the guys?
Nathan:I don't remember.
Sam:I haven't seen that one.
Sam:I did see Revenge of the Nerds and Revenge of the Nerds 2.
Sam:It might, it
Nathan:might be one of the most offensive movies ever made.
Nathan:Where, anyways, we won't get into it, but.
Nathan:We could do a whole month dedicated to losing our entire female audience.
Bee:I just, like, didn't.
Bee:We were just talking about how much testosterone was in all of
Bee:the movies that we were watching.
Nathan:We have to counterbalance every We have to release the burden.
Nathan:Oh god.
Nathan:What's really funny is people are listening.
Nathan:If anyone's listening to this, like tuning in for our June pride wrap up and
Nathan:they're listening to the end of this, like they're doing what's after this.
Nathan:I scribe to this podcast
Bee:guys.
Bee:I'm trying.
Bee:Okay.
Bee:I mean,
Sam:At the very least, it is better than Ernest Saves Christmas.
Sam:That one is fairly dull.
Bee:I wouldn't know.
Sam:Yeah, Ernest goes to jail, it's pretty good.
Sam:He has a twin brother and the wrong man gets convicted, but his brother that
Sam:looks just like him takes over his life while he's stuck in jail and they Woah!
Sam:Yeah.
Nathan:Alright.
Nathan:Alright,
Nathan:I'm gonna wrap it up here.
Nathan:Let's Do I have Do I even have anything to say at the end of this here?
Nathan:Alright.
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Sam:So as Nathan would say, this is, this is the best first half of 2025 ever.
Sam:Yeah,
Nathan:exactly.
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