In this episode, Chosen People Ministries president Dr. Mitch Glaser introduces messianic prophecy and shares how it has shaped his life. We also examine what Psalm 89 and 2 Samuel 7:12-14 say about the Messiah, Israel’s deliverer and king.

Welcome to Our Hope,

a production of Chosen People Ministries.

On this podcast you will hear inspiring testimonies,

learn about Messianic apologetics and discover

God's plan for Israel and you.

Wherever you're listening, we hope you lean in,

listen closely and be blessed.

The writers of the New Testament clearly believed

that the Old Testament, or Tanakh, speaks of a coming

Messiah who would save Israel from her enemies.

Not only that—they taught that Jesus is that Messiah.

He rescues those who believe in Him from sin

and when he returns, he will fulfill everything

that Scripture says about the Messiah.

In this season of Our Hope Podcast,

we will look at different passages of the Old Testament

and chat with our guests about what these writings

tell us about the Messiah.

To open this new season,

we will explain what Messianic

prophecy is and explore two specific prophecies about

Yeshua’s role as Israel’s deliverer and king.

Our guest today is Dr.

Mitch Glaser, president of Chosen People Ministries.

I now introduce the host of Our Hope podcast, Abe Vazquez.

(Abe) Welcome back to season seven of Our Hope.

I am so excited to finally be back.

We had a bit of an extended break thanks to

a wonderful conference we recently held called 9/11

and the New Middle East.

Where can people watch that, Nicole?

911theconference.com.

I kind of threw that at you, 911theconference.com.

You can watch this wonderful conference.

We had Anne Graham Lotz, we had Joel Rosenberg.

We had just such

wonderful guest pastors who served during 9/11.

And I know we're probably a little far away from it, but

I really believe the messages

that were spoken remain relevant and are pretty timeless.

But today, we're finally back.

And for the first time,

we have our guest in the studio with us.

Mitch, it's such a pleasure to interview you not over Zooom

It's always a pleasure not to be surrounded by a littl

box over my head.

That's great.

So, you know, Mitch,

you've been on this podcast many times before.

I'm just wondering if you could tell everyone

how long you've been leading Chosen People Ministries?

Longer than the podcast.

So I began in May of 1997.

And so it's coming on 25 years.

And it's been one of the best experiences of my life,

living for the Lord and in service among my Jewish people.

It's been tremendous time, and I think I'll keep

going for a while.

After 25 years,

I would imagine this

Covid season is probably the most challenging

you've faced as a leader. It has been very challenging.

I mean, we went through 9/11, we went through Sandy,

we went through rescuing Russian Jewish people,

jumping out of their windows into the Atlantic Ocean.

That was down the block from their house

when it should have been a quarter mile away.

And figuring out how to do outreach at that time

So there's been a lot

of challenges and Covid is certainly way up there.

But the one thing I've learned from the other challenges

is that we need to trust in the Lord, be patient.

And he works these things out.

And that's what I'm doing and that's where we're going.

So it's it's good.

And what Bible verse or passage has God

been using to help you in this current season?

It's my lifelong verse, no matter what.

It's good for every season.

1 Corinthians 15:58, Knowing

that the work that we do is never in vain in the Lord.

"So be steadfast, immovable,

always abounding in the work of the Lord,

knowing that your work for Him is never in vain.

It's never in vain." Abe and Nicole, you just

keep swimming through it.

And He clears the path

and makes your life fruitful because the word of God never

comes back void.

And this podcast

is all about pressing on and putting out the word of God

So we know, that this is going to be fruitful. Nicole: Amen.

Amen. Alright. So let's jump into the topic.

Messianic prophecy.

So I have a question for you. It should be pretty easy.

When is Jesus returning?

OK,

now you promise not to stone me if I'm wrong?

So OK. So my view on scripture is that it could be any moment.

Yeah. Mm hmm. Abe: Perfect. That's great.

That's great. Mitch: You know why, though?

He doesn't tell us.

Ah. See, nobody asks the question. Abe: You're right

The reason why is because the Lord knows u

so well that some of us would even try and cram

holiness before the final exam.

You know what I mean?

And so He doesn't want us to know.

He keeps us guessing. Yeah.

So that we stay on the straight and narrow for our whole lives.

That's my point.

Hmm. So, again, the topic of this season,

this entire season is Messianic prophecy.

Mitch, could you

help us understand what Messiah means? Mitch: Sure

Messiah, which is sometimes

translated to Christ, of course, in the New Testament

They're really both the same terms. Messiah is from

the Hebrew "Mashiach".

Messiah is a transliteration, not a translation.

Understand the difference.

Yes. Mitch: And then Christus is

the Greek and Christ is the transliteration.

So rather than translate these terms, the Bible

translators, rightfully so, simply transliterate them.

And so you're speaking Hebrew every time you say Messiah.

We just think it's an English word, you know.

And so the Messiah, the Hebrew word, "Mashiach" means anointed

And there were three anointed offices in Israel.

And by anointed, it meant that literally oil was poured over

their heads as a symbol of God's power and blessing.

And so there's the prophet who was anointed.

There's the priest who was anointed.

Then there was the king who was anointed.

And so in our understanding,

the Messiah is the one who puts together all three offices.

He's God's prophet, God's priest, and He's God's king.

And certainly Jesus fits all of those categories.

He speaks for God. He died for our sins.

He not only was the priest, He was the sacrifice.

And He's our coming king.

And I think that's the one we're going to be looking

at a little more carefully today.

For sure. For sure.

Yeah. And Mitch, having being on this side of

the resurrection and the ascension

and knowing everything that the New Testament says,

why is it important that we still discuss

Messianic prophecies from the Hebrew scriptures?

Well, first of all, everything in

the Bible is important.

And so and it's not static.

It's dynamic because it's the word of God.

And so there's lessons and blessing to be

had in just understanding prophecy that was fulfilled.

But secondly, it's also evidentiary.

And so if you want to demonstrate to someone,

particularly a Jewish person who may understand the Hebrew

scriptures, the Old Testament, and is looking for the Messiah,

how would they ever know

that the Messiah came once and is coming again?

If you can't demonstrate that the prophecies that

that were quoted

in the New Testament as fulfillments were accurate

representations of what was in the Old Testament.

And so it's a great way

to demonstrate to your Jewish friends,

or if you're Jewish and you're listening,

if you look at Messianic

prophecy, prophecies of the Messiah, you'll see that

there are two kinds.

One, there are prophecies of His first coming

and then there are prophecies of a second coming.

Right. Mitch: And both are true.

It's just that the second

coming ones have not been fulfilled yet.

And probably just as you said, Nicole, we're

not looking on the other side of the second coming.

So we're we may not be

as accurate about fulfill prophecy

as we are about prophecies of His first coming.

That's right.

And speaking of first coming versus second coming prophecies

one of the prophecies

that we're going to discuss today is 2 Samuel 7:12 to 14.

And in these verses, God promises David,

Israel's great king,

that one of his descendants will sit on the throne forever.

The core of the promise is found in verses 12 to 16.

Mitch, can you walk us through

this incredible covenantal promise of God to David?

Sure, I'd love to.

This is a very, very

important prophecy and promise because it's also a covenant.

Now, oftentimes the promises in the Hebrew scriptures are coven

In Genesis 12:1–3,

there's a great promise to Abraham that he'll

become a great nation.

He'll have a land, that he will have his people,

his descendants will have a relationship with God,

and that he will be a blessing to the world.

Now, all of that is a promise.

It's a prophecy, but it's also a covenant,

because God says I'm going to make this happen.

And he has made it happen.

Hence, the Jewish people, the land of Israel and so on.

Now, this is both a prophecy, a promise and a covenant.

It's an agreement. It's an agreement.

And so, Nathan, who's the one that God chose

to deliver this message to David

says, "When your days are complete, you lie down

with your fathers." That's in verse 12.

2 Samuel 7, verse 12.

I will raise up your descendants or descendant after you.

Who will come forth from you?

And I will establish his

kingdom. So clearly a son of David will be

the future king of Israel.

Now, this is, sort of a new take

on the kings of Israel because the Jewish people

demanded a king, God allowed them to have Saul,

but didn't really want them to have a king.

And so, of course, Israel failed at at following the king

and the king failed leading his people.

And so this is a new start.

And for whatever reason, I'm sure it's based in grace

because He's a gracious God,

sometimes the Lord gives us what we want.

And so He is now giving the Jewish people a king

Only He's going to do it His way now. Yeah.

And so He selected David out of this group of of childre

and and chose David to be the promised king.

And now He's talking to David, who's already the king,

and He's saying, you know, this thing's going to continue.

So I'm creating what we call a dynasty.

We're creating a dynasty.

So I will establish his kingdom.

Now, David had a lot of sons, so not exactly. This

verse doesn't tell us which son it's going to be.

But now we know it was Solomon,

but it doesn't say so at this point.

I will be a father to him. He will be a son to me.

Look at that relationship between father and son.

And in fact, this is the way God treated David.

He treated David as a son, sometimes an erring son,

and He exercised grace and forgiveness with Davi

that few of us would,

we don't want to tempt

God to treat us in the same way by doing what David did.

And so it's better to be

obedient. And so but He treated David like a son

And look what He says,

"He shall build a house for My name." OK, Davidic dynasty.

And I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.

That's so critical.

Now, notice in this covenant, He doesn't say that these thing

need to happen in order for my dynasty to be a forever dynasty

God simply says it's going to be a forever dynasty.

In the Mosaic Covenant, He says, if you do this, I'll do this.

If you don't do this, then I will do this

blessing and judgment.

In the Abrahamic covenant, it's more of a grace covenant.

God says I will fulfill

these promises and

the Davidic covenant is saying the same thing.

So the Davidic covenant

technically is an unconditional covenant.

It's without conditions.

The Abrahamic covenant is unconditional without condition

or the conditions are based upon God's power to perform

those conditions.

Mosaic covenant. Well, that's a kind of a different story.

Mosaic covenant is a conditional covenant

conditional on Israel's obedience. This one,

I mean, God already knew too much about David

to base anything on his ultimate obedience

so that this is God's promise

and God will make sure it happens.

So I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.

I'll be a father to him. He'll be a son to me.

When he commits iniquity

I'll correct him with the rod of men

and the strokes of the sons of men.

So in other words, He already knows that

He's picking human kings.

And Solomon is going to have far

too many wives to be able to not get in trouble. OK.

But look at the unconditional,

everlasting nature, nature of this covenant.

But my loving kindness shall not depart from him.

So, in other words, he doesn't deserve it.

He doesn't earn it.

He deserves to actually

to lose it. But he's not going to because of my

loving kindness,

my loving kindness. And that's an interesting word, friends.

The Hebrew word "Khesed", loving kindness is a covenantal word.

And it is an expression of God's commitment and love.

It goes far beyond a feeling,

far beyond a kind gesture on God's part.

It actually speaks of an eternal, everlasting connection

between God and those He chooses to love.

He chose to love Israel.

Deuteronomy 7, Deuteronomy 14.

"I've not chosen you

because you were the

the largest, but the fewest in number." In other words,

you didn't deserve to be chosen.

And so God love has said

it's always based in God's choice.

So what can we do to sort of undeserved God's love?

Well, the answer that is nothing. Yeah.

Yeah, nothing, because we didn't deserve it in the first place.

So My loving kindness, My khesed shall not depart from him

as I took it away from Saul

because it was a different arrangement.

No, it was not a covenant.

"Whom I removed from before your house." Now,

that's the Hebrew word "bayit".

And some people say, well, that refers to the temple

Probably not. Sometimes, very ac very often, even in Jewish

literature, the Hebrew word "bayit" is sort of a metonymy

it's one word to represent an

another concept.

So by it usually was interchangeable with Temple

But He's referring actually

in this instance to the Davidic dynasty.

So your house, your dynasty and your kingdom

shall endure before me forever.

Your throne shall be established forever. Why?

Because this promise is based upon God's grace, God's

mercy, God's cursed.

And He will see to it that the throne of David will b

in Davidic hands forever.

Now, there's a great passage of scripture.

This is Isaiah 9:6 and 7, and it just fits

so perfectly in this, "For a child will be born to us.

A son will be given to us."

Everybody know this Christmas passage, right?

"And the government will rest on His shoulders." OK.

"His name will be called

Wonderful Counselor." Pele’ yo‘ets. Mighty God,

El Gibhor, which means mighty eternal warrior.

I mean, it's it's God is a warrior.

So God is a counselor. God is a warrior.

Eternal father, Avi'ad. Father of eternity.

So that speaks of His

eternality. Sar Shalom, prince of peace.

That speaks of His function as a ruler.

There will be no end to the increase

of His government or of peace.

Now, listen to this.

And on the throne of David, Davidic covenant.

Isaiah followed David by hundreds of years

and knew the covenant

on the throne of David and over his kingdom

to establish it and uphold it with justice and righteousness.

From then on. And how long? Forevermore.

So whoever takes the throne of David

gets the job forever.

And there's only one person

who actually fits the bill of these names.

And also rules Israel

into forever. And that's Yeshua.

So you can see how the ultimate son of David

not only fulfills the covenant, but actually fulfills

this prophetic passage in the book of Isaiah. Nicole:

So you were talking about

how Yeshua will rule forever.

And we know from verse 16 in this prophecy from 2 Samuel

7, that it seems to be cast as eternal, this covenant.

How does this impact the future of the Jewish people

the Messiah and the descendants of King David?

Yeah, that's really a good question.

I think it's a very, very important point.

When God called Abraham out of Ur of the Chaldees

and established a nation,

He gave no time parameters for how long that nation would last

And so we have to understand that God's relationship with

the Jewish people was founded on the covenant with Abraham.

Some teeth was put to it

for moral behavior and in the Mosaic Covenant.

But the structure of the eternal kingship

of the nation, who would who would rule it forever?

Well, it's really funny.

Remember why the Jewish people got into trouble with Saul?

Yes, because God wanted to be the king.

See, that was the problem.

So you've got to tie together the eternality of the people,

the eternality of the ruler and the incarnation.

You see, it's because God became flesh

that He could be the ruler of the Jewish people forever,

because the scripture

has been very clear that God wants to rule His people.

And so Jesus is the eternal divine ruler of the Jewish

people, based upon the Abrahamic and the Davidic covenant.

And we won't get into the New Covenant.

That might be another podcast. B I hope that answers your questi

And so God's hand is upon the Jewish people

and nobody can take His hand off the Jewish people.

And

speaking of the Jewish people, how do they view this promise

and creation of a covenant that we've been talking?

Well, let me tell you a funny story.

So, friends, you've got to come to Israel

with Chosen People Ministries.

Nobody will give you a tour of Israel when we can get in,

which, you know.

Yeah. You know, might

be the late spring or summer might be the fall,

but I think it's coming.

Israel is beginning to open a little bit now.

The crack crack in the door.

In the old city of Jerusalem, there is one, there are two

really strange museums to visit.

One is the Temple Mount Museum,

and that's where a group of

Hasidic ultra-Orthodox Jews, mostly from Brooklyn,

are developing the vestments of the priest.

The items that would go into the altar, the

the brazen altar, they're they're putting togethe

the instruments that were played in the temple.

So they're putting together everything that's needed

so that when the temple is rebuilt, they can fill it with

with the furniture. I mean, how could you have an unfurnished

house for God? Right?

And so that's what their plan is. It's a very odd experience

to be there, as much as I do believe a literal temple

will be rebuilt.

It's still pretty odd to see

a bunch of Orthodox Jews from Brooklyn making the furniture.

But there's one that's

even stranger, and that's the King David Museum.

There is literally a King David.

He's here in Israel.

I promise you, I think that these guys are all Gentiles,

who don't know anything about

Judaism and they wear these long prophetic robes

and they all have long beards.

And it's just so strange. And

but it's interesting, you know,

and what they have around the wall, up on top of the wall

is they have all of David's descendants up

until this very, very day.

Oh, wow. Oh, wow.

And, you know, and you

and you can follow it along and see if you know

the guy at the end of it, which I did not, OK?

But it wasn't Rabbi Schneerson of the Lubavitch

Hasidim and it wasn't any rabbi that I know.

But there is this deep-rooted

belief, that the Messiah will be a son of David.

I mean, what I told you was a weird expression of it,

but it demonstrates the Jewish attitude towards

the son of David prophecies in the Old Testament.

Without a doubt, the Jewish people understand 2 Samuel 7,

and the corollary passage, by the way, is in 1 Chronicles 19.

Jewish people know that the Messiah will be number one,

a son of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

And number two, son of David.

So, you know, when you're

presenting Messianic prophecy to a Jewish person,

you can start off with a lot of agreement.

We both think He'll be Jewish.

We all think He'll be from the tribe of Judah, Genesis 49:10.

And we all believe that

He will be a descendant, direct descendant of King David.

Mitch, Psalm 89, who wrote this Psalm?

And do you think that's significant?

Well, in the Psalms, you have what's known

as a superscription. That's what they call it.

And the superscription oftentimes tells us two things.

One, who wrote it? And number two, what kind of somberness?

So the maskil of Ethan the Ezrahite.

So a maskil's teaching song.

And Ethan or Eitan,

the Ezrahite is not a well-known person in scripture.

I mean, there are some passages

in there in the Bible about him.

And so we know a little

bit about him, but we don't know a lot about him.

But it's not unusual because actually Psalm 88

was written by (unknown),

Heman, not Herman, the Ezrahite.

So there seem to be people of that group.

Now, Psalm 87 was written by the Sons of Korah.

Now we know a lot more about the Sons of Korah.

So it is possible

that these guys are somewhat linked to the Sons of Korah.

We don't know for sure.

The Sons of Korah led the Levitical band

at the temple. And actually,

there is some evidence that Korah was a drummer.

And so it is possible that

these guys, because it's listed in Psalm 88

as some of the sons of Korah for the choir director,

according to eventually, Heman the Ezrahite in Psalm 88.

And again, maskil is not just a song.

It's a it is a teaching song, so to speak. Right.

Well, Eitan seems to be in that same group.

So not all the Psalms obviously,

were written by King David, guess who wrote some 90? Moses.

So Moses, and we have good reason, a good

tradition to understand that Moses wrote Psalm 90.

So though we don't know a lot about our friend Eitan,

what we can presume probably

is, you know, he was he was part of the boys

in the band, you know, and maybe he was a songwriter.

Maybe he was a singer. Hmm.

So all of these folks, I'll leave Moses out for a moment.

But all of these folks were part of the worship team. Hmm.

So if you are part of a worship team,

in some ways you can be a Psalmist too so and

so that that's about as much as we know. Right.

So these guys were songwriters and and they led worship.

So this this person Eitan, that's significant

because the context of this Psalm was like, as you said,

as a teaching Psalm.

So that then means that it's not necessarily

just metaphorical. Oh, it's not metaphorical, actually.

Psalm 89 is the poetic expression of 2 Samuel 7.

So they're in the.

I don't think they're in the temple yet.

I think they're in

later on this would have been sung in the temple.

But but they're in the Tabernacle, OK?

During the days of David, because David didn't see the

David wrote all the Psalms before the temple was built. An

so they're in the tabernacle.

And without a doubt,

they all knew of the 2 Samuel, they all knew of the covenant.

David knew of the covenant.

I mean, he was the heartbeat of the covenant.

And so this is a beautiful

could have been very melodic expression.

It's a teaching Psalm of the Davidic covenant.

So part of what's happening here is that the Levitical priests,

who were the ones to carry the message of the Torah,

of the five books of Moses

and teach it to the Jewish

people, most people don't understand that,

but the Levites had a teaching ministry,

not just a sacrificial and a mediatorship

or worship ministry.

And so they were teaching through these Psalms.

So David was not the right author of the Psalms,

but I'm sure David was the inspiration for these Psalms.

And so his worship

team wrote the song, but they knew the covenant well

So if you look in this Psalm, you'll see the details of the

Right.

And it kind of reminds me of of the art that we see.

You know, art represented scriptures, you know, and,

you know, you go to Europe and and all of this.

And how else would they have communicated the scriptures

or these covenants and things like that

to people who couldn't read, you know, like through song.

And so that totally makes sense.

And it's possible that they they memorized

some of this music. Nicole: Right. Yeah.

And it seems that Psalm 89 reaffirms the covenant

that God made with David.

We read in verses

two through four of the Psalm and then again in verses

20 through 29, and then again in verses 36 through 37. Right.

So this is Psalm 89:2–4, "For I have said

loving kindness will be built up forever in the heavens.

You will establish

your faithfulness.

I have made a covenant

with my chosen. I have sworn to David, my servant.

I will establish your seat forever

and build up your throne to all generations."

And then in verses 23 to 29,

"I have found David, my servant, with my holy oil.

I have anointed him with whom my hand will be established.

My arm also will strengthen him.

The enemy will not deceive

him, nor the son of wickedness afflict him.

But I shall crush

his adversaries before him and strike those who hate him.

My faithfulness in my loving kindness will be

with him and in my name.

His horn will be exalted.

I shall also set his hand on the sea and his right

hand on the rivers. He will cry to me.

You are my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation.

I also shall make him my firstborn, the highest

of the kings of the earth.

My loving kindness, I will keep for him forever,

and my covenant shall be confirmed to him.

So I will establish his descendants forever

and his throne as the days of heaven."

And then verses 36 through 37 says this,

"His descendants shall endure forever in his throne

as the son before me.

It shall be established forever like the moon

and the witness in the sky is faithful." Fantastic.

That's that's the hope

that the Hebrew scriptures gives to all of us who love God

Because for believers in Jesus, what this looks forward

to is the second coming. Yes.

And so when you take that, literally, you understand that

the son of David, the Messiah, Jesus, will return

and will literally fulfill

the promises of the Hebrew scriptures and literally reign

on His throne in Jerusalem for a long period of time.

Revelation, we view it as a thousand years, and

He will establish His kingdom.

This Davidic kingdom and this kingdom

will be a kingdom that will be beautiful.

The curse will be lifted from the earth.

And all sorts of wonderful things will happen.

It will be a righteous kingdom. It will be a just kingdom.

I love verse 24, my faithfulness and "emunah"

which means it's from the word to be true.

So my truth and my khesed, my loving kindness will be with hi

and in my name, his horn,

which is the image of the anointing oil, will be exalted.

So I mean, the portrait here that we have,

what will probably be

at least a couple thousand years before Jesus

reigns on His rightful throne if He comes next week.

You see and David, we always date David about a thousand B.C

That's the easiest way to

that's the easiest way to date David's kingdom.

OK, and what year are we in now?

So this three thousand

years we've been waiting for this so far. Oh, yes. But what?

So whenever it comes, we'll know it's here.

But it's going to be a kingdom that will be characterized

by the qualities of government and life

that will make all of us,

we'll be filled with joy, because don't you want a ruler

who is tethered to the truth, who will always act in

loving kindness and faithfulness and loving kindness?

Boy, I'll tell you, this is tremendous hope that we have.

And if you don't take the second coming, literally,

if you don't take the establishment

of His kingdom, literally,

I wish you would, because you will have something

rock solid to look forward to and try not to spiritualize

all this, you know, just take it for face value.

A kingdom is coming.

That will be established in truth and righteousness

and in khesed, in loving kindness.

That's something to hang on to, particularly

during difficult times. Abe: Yeah. Yeah.

So I think we've covered a lot.

But I would love to know, how much

does the New Testament reference either of these prophecies?

I think I'm going to just give you one passage here,

if that's OK, because it does a number of times you can look

in the early sermons of the Book of Acts.

Yeah, you could look I mean,

because it flows

into other passages like the Book of Amos 9, which

is quoted in one of Peter's early sermons and so on.

But I'd like to just look at one quick little passage.

It was the one that absolutely blew me away

when I was first seeking the Lord.

I picked up a New Testament,

which I found in a phone booth

in the middle of the redwood forest.

And you know my story.

But you can find it on

I Found Shalom and you can you can listen to me or watch it.

But when I opened up the New Testament right at the start,

because I was raised in a more traditional Jewish home,

we read in verse one of the gospel of Matthew,

the record of the genealogy of Jesus, the Messiah,

the son of David,

and the son of Abraham.

The son of David goes first.

The son of David and the son of Abraham.

And then in verse 17,

the generations from Abraham to David are 14.

From David to the deportation.

David, this covenant God made with David

is right at the heartbeat

of even the first coming of Messiah.

So we know that He is the anointed Son of David

and the king Messiah.

For me as a Jewish person,

hearing that from the very start, because I was taugh

you know, if Jesus did exist, He certainly wasn't Jewish.

He started a new religion.

He was, You know, His followers are anti-semitic.

I had all, you know, all these terrible concepts.

You know, I open up the New Testament.

Sure, it would be an anti-semitic diatribe, right?

And the first thing I read is Jesus the Messiah,

the son of David. I said, wow,

wow. That's mind-boggling.

And that's something

that you can share with your Jewish friends, because

Jewish people know

that the Messiah is supposed to be from the from

the son of David, He is going to be a son of David. And

that's a great place to start.

So Mitch

going back to something you mentioned earlier,

Jesus has fulfilled many Messianic prophecies,

but He also will fulfill many others when He returns.

So can we conclude for Psalm 89 and for the passage in 2 Samuel

7 that these prophecies have not been fulfilled yet?

They've been fulfilled in part

because you have a first and a second coming.

So certainly Jesus did fulfill, I'm sorry, that.

Well, Jesus, too. But but certainly, David,

David's dynasty continued.

Yes. And eventually David's

dynasty had a halt, a seeming halt to it,

but it was picked up again in the coming of the true king.

So Jesus didn't ascend

the physical throne, but he was certainly

the anointed son of David.

And when he ascended, he certainly ascended and sat

at the right hand of the father.

So in a sense, He was a king in a spiritual sort of way.

But, you know, when I say things like that, that doesn't mean

that the rest of

the of the story is not going to unfold, literally.

And that's what that's the problem. Sometimes people say,

oh, so He's already the king.

So that prophecy is fulfilled,

so we don't have anything more to look forward to.

Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

Think of it as prophecies being fulfilled incrementally,

you know, over a period of time.

And that's exactly what happens in the New Testament.

It's not that Jesus doesn't fulfill 2

Samuel 7 or Psalm 89 at all. He does.

But there's a lot more to look forward to.

So first He came to die for our sins get us right with God.

Next time He comes to reign is king.

The prophecies and covenants reflect these two comings.

Mitch, I would love to hear you describe what Yeshua's

kingship will look like.

And I just think about life right now.

A lot of divisions across many different spectrums.

Can't seem a lot of people can't seem to agree with each other.

What is it going to look like when Jesus is on the throne?

Well, again, it's going to be

sort of in two stages, even in the future,

because you have the

thousand year reign of Jesus, the millennial kingdom,

where all these prophecies are literally fulfilled.

And then you have the coming of the new Jerusalem where He's

also sitting on the throne.

Yeah. And and so, boy, there's

so many good things to look forward to, you know. And

how do I feel about it in this time period?

Well, let me just read

one passage. One of my favorite

and this is with the latter half of this second coming,

when the new Jerusalem comes dow

because He'll be the light and, you know, just

magnificent prophecies.

But here's the part I quote all the time

during this tough Covid season and during hard times.

And it's something to remember in Revelation 21:4,

one of my favorite passages,

He will wipe away every tear from their eyes.

Now, listen, there'll be no more death,

no more mourning, no more crying, no more pain fo

the old things have passed away.

That's the hope that keeps us going. That's the hope

that Jesus gives us. That's the hope that was promised

by the Davidic covenant.

Mitch, there are

a lot of, uh, scriptures that people love.

There are a lot of things in the Bible that people love.

People don't necessarily go to Messianic prophecy

first to be blessed, quote unquote. Right?

You think of that and you think of you have to

study and all this but- Mitch: Just people like me. Abe:

I'm just curious.

How has learning about Messianic

prophecy shaped you personally?

And how can it bless us?

I think right

out of the box, Abe, it gives us a sense of certainty,

particularly first coming prophecies. It's powerful.

You know, when you can see

that these prophecies, at least according to the New Testament,

that that they came to pass,

then that's again, that's a powerful rationale that's

a little bit more objective

for the development of faith.

And and so I think that that's a great use for me as a

as a Jewish believer. Of course it was.

It's not just that it gives me a solid basis for my faith,

gives me a solid basis for my Jewishness also

and the Jewishness of my faith.

I could not believe that Jesus is the Messiah unless

I believe that what He did was consistent with

what was predicted in the Hebrew scriptures.

And Messianic prophecy, everything from Micah 5:2,

"But thou Bethlehem, too little to be

among the clans of Judah, for me one will go forth from

to be ruler in Israel, and he's going forth

from long ago from everlasting", to Isaiah 53, "By his stripes.

We are healed." There's there's just and

and of course, what we were just talking about, the covenant.

When I see those things

come to pass in the person of Jesus and in the New Testament,

how in the world am I supposed to think of Him

as a Norwegian or an Italian or or something other than Jewish?

You know, nothing against Norwegians or Italians.

But I mean, He's one of ours.

And for me to be comfortable with my faith and to be able to

tell my Jewish family and friends that they could

be comfortable with Him also,

He needs to be demonstrably Jewish, and there's

nothing more powerful in demonstrating

the Jewishness of Jesus than these Messianic prophecies

Like the writer of Psalm 89,

we praise God that

the Messiah saves us

and will usher in a kingdom of peace and justice,

as verse 4 says, "I will establish your seed foreve

and build up your throne to all generations."

This gives us hope

for when Jesus returns and establishes His throne on Earth

bringing an end to all wars and bringing safety to all nations.

Thank you for listening

to this week’s episode of Our Hope, featuring

Chosen People Ministries’ president, Dr. Mitch Glaser.

This episode was produced by Nicole Vacca and Grace

Swee, written by Rachel Larsen, and edited by Grace Swee.

This episode was also created thanks to

Kieran Bautista and Dr. Michael Rydelnik.

I'm Abe Vazquez.

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