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27th September 2024 • Creative Fuel for Underdogs: Using Creativity to Achieve Success • Julie Stout
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Episode 12: Rethinking Relationships: Creativity and Connections

Discover how a personal relationship can inspire and fuel your creativity. Join Julie as she shares her personal journey and offers valuable insights on finding inspiration in unexpected places.

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1 Hi. So every episode I say, this is one of my 2 favorite stories and my favorite topics, but this is one that's really 3

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close to my heart, because it's about the 4 heart. So I always tell 5

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everybody that the universe picked my husband. 6 And it is. It's kind of 7

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a joke, but it's not a joke, it's a real thing. So it's 8 a great story, and I'm going to tell that. But the first thing I want 9

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to talk about is just kind of like, 10 why does the heart 11

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relationships? What does that have to do with creativity? 12 So, if we go back to the original 13

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episodes, we have two operating 14 systems. We have our thought processor in our head and we 15

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have our thought generator, which is this whole idea of 16 living in the creative flow, this space, 17

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this what I call the clear thinking channel, where there's 18 no judgment, there's just connection, and this connection to ideas, 19

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there's connection to the flow and that 20 the thought processing system is kind of a broken system. It's based 21

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on genetics, it's based on what. What's happened in your 22 lifetime. It's based on different levels of 23

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PTSD, different things like that. And so 24 your thought processing system isn't ideal. And so 25

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the whole idea is just to get out of your head, stop using 26 that, stop using all the triggers for crazy 27

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feelings, for crazy ideas, thoughts, 28 spirals churning, things like that. 29

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And to spend more time in this place where you're just moving 30 into the role of creator and you're just building this amazing 31

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life. So when you start to look at it, and the last few 32 episodes have dealt with the idea that there 33

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are things in our life that really trigger us and that we 34 get crazy emotions about it, whether it be death or grief 35

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or your kids and stuff like that. Anyway, the 36 one thing that's just off the charts, absolutely off 37

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the charts with emotions and chemicals and 38 all of that is physical 39

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attraction and falling in love. And 40 we base everything on 41

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physical attraction. So if you look at all the dating 42 apps, you know, you're just taking a picture, just a picture, and 43

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you're judging and you're saying, do I feel a physical 44 attraction to this person? And the 45

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whole system is broken because 46 all those variables can be manipulated. We can manipulate a 47

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photograph, we can pick that look, 48 that moment in time when we're projecting something 49

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and what we're projecting. And so the idea of 50 picking your potential partner, your 51

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potential spouse, you know, on 52 a photograph, is just. It doesn't make sense. 53

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And then when you start to look at what is. What are 54 the stages of love? You know, what are the stages 55

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of? You know, so there's, you know, initial 56 love, there's all these endorphins and dopamine. 57

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And I. You are completely distracted. You know, all you 58 do is think about this person all the time. It reaches 59

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a level of almost insanity. And 60 then it becomes, after that, there's a 61

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stages of, and there becomes uncertainty 62 after that. You start questioning, is it real? Is this real? Is, 63

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you know, is this the right person? Is this the right fit? You start 64 judging everything that they're doing. You start, it just becomes 65

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this. Like you get stuck in this, all this 66 dopamine endorphins, and then you get stuck in this 67

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judgment area. And basically 68 it's not a good system. Okay? You look at 69

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the statistics, and in 70 America, 40% to 50% of first time 71

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marriages end in divorce. Second marriages, 72 the statistic goes up to 60% to 73

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67% marriage. Second in marriages end in 74 divorce. So the whole idea that we 75

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are picking based on physical 76 attraction is not the right metric to pick your 77

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partner. It just isn't. And then you look at 78 arranged marriages in the US, and the divorce rate in 79

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arranged marriages is 4%. So 80 now there are obviously other cultural factors. If 81

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you're in a place where you have an arranged marriage, 82 then you obviously have this cultural bias to 83

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staying together, to adapting, to making 84 this work. So it's not an 85

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easy escape or easy divorce route. 86 So that can obviously affect the numbers. But the bottom line 87

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is that picking your spouse based on your chemistry 88 and how you're releasing those endorphins and I, 89

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those variables that go into that physical 90 attraction, everything is based on 91

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procreating and survival of the species. So 92 for women, you're looking for that, you know, strong, confident 93

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male that's going to give you strong, confident 94 children. And so it's. And then for, 95

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you know, men, it's different. You're looking for, you know, on 96 a yemenite, very basic biological level, you're looking for 97

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that person that's going to be a good mate and nurture your children and things 98 like that. So there's all these biases built into 99

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it that just aren't a great way to pick your husband. So 100 the ideas that I want to throw out there are that we 101

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stop listening to that and give that just part 102 of the measurement of should. 103

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Should I be with this person or not be with this person? Don't base it 104 on the physical attraction. This rush 105

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of, you know, chemicals that come that just may not be 106 real. It just is part of your processing. 107

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And, you know, I told you about my ex husband, 108 and that I. So the one 109

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theory that I knew was, if you were married to an alcoholic, you would 110 go and you would have, you know, marry an alcoholic the second 111

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time, and then you would marry an alcoholic the third time. If 112 you were married to someone that stepped out of the marriage and they cheated 113

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on you, then you would most likely go ahead and repeat that 114 pattern. And repeat the pattern, and you had this 115

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bias to attracting those people that would 116 fit this. And you're always trying to, at some level, 117

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trying to fix them, trying to control the situation. 118 You know, I did. I went through, like, divorce recovery. I went to see a 119

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psychologist. I went through coda, codependent behavior, you know, 120 and just really started to understand, like, why I 121

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picked the wrong person, and then how do I not pick the 122 wrong person again? How do I not fall into this 123

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trap of trying to take 124 everything that I feel was not right in 125

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my life and keep being drawn to those 126 things that are not right? So the whole idea was to 127

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and then began to observe people that were stuck in these 128 patterns. So I have a really good friend. 129

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If you look at the souls, like, if you actually 130 start to look at. And again, it's based on your religious beliefs, but if 131

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you believe that we come back as souls, our souls come back. They have 132 this life journey. They have this path that souls 133

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actually are drawn to each other, and that they kind of 134 run in packs. So, like, my daughter was 135

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my mother in many past lives. This is the first time I've been her 136 mother. And then I have this really good friend that 137

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the minute I met her, I was just drawn to her. Like, I 138 mean, in ways I cannot explain, but we're just, like, 139

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drawn to each other. And I. And 140 physically and spiritually, too, were drawn to each other. And 141

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so what her mo 142 is, is that her father 143

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repeatedly cheated on her mother, and then he 144 ended up leaving the marriage, and 145

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she is drawn to that energy in 146 Mendez. So 147

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her ex husband, he cheated on her when they were 148 dating. He cheated on her throughout the marriage, and then 149

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the final time that she just had enough when he was in 150 this other second relationship outside of the marriage, and 151

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she finally separated from him. But when we go 152 out, and we go out, and she's always interested in 153

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meeting Mendez when we go out, she will always. 154 You pick, if you look around the room and you 155

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identify that guy that has this 156 projects this energy, projects this confidence, projects 157

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this. Basically, I can have any woman, 158 any time energy. That's the only guy 159

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she's attracted to. And she'll say, I can't kiss anybody else. I 160 can only kiss this guy. This is the only one I'm attracted to. 161

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And it's so funny how her chemistry and her 162 programming will always draw her to that person that's going to hurt her 163

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the most. And that she can't. She can't. When she's 164 in an actual healthy relationship or somebody that's not going to be 165

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this way, there's always this really strong level of uncertainty 166 because it doesn't feel comfortable, it doesn't feel right, and 167

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it doesn't feel like she should be there. 168 So, you know, for years now, I have been 169

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telling her about this. I've been telling her about this program. I've been preaching to 170 her. You know, you're just in your head, you're operating from these, this 171

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chemistry, you're operating from these patterns. You're just. It just. 172 Yes, it feels good, but it's just chemicals. This isn't really. 173

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This isn't real. It's not a real thing. 174 That attraction, that draw is not a real thing. That there's 175

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actually, when you get out of your head and you're in this space of, you 176 know, this, this thing that we don't understand, that it's bigger than us, that it's 177

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a universal, you know, whether it be, 178 you know, this energy of love, God or 179

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it's aliens or whatever it is, this thing that's beyond 180 us, that when you're operating from this place, that you're actually 181

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drawing those people to you, you're going to attract those people, you're going to 182 attract the right person. Things are going to work for you. So 183

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my story, let's get to my story. 184 So I went through this divorce. I went through 185

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the divorce recovery, and I saw 186 people that were just five years after the divorce, they were 187

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still suffering, really physically, 188 emotionally suffering, and I wasn't. 189

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And I really started to pay attention. Why, 190 really, it was that I 191

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knew I was supposed to have these amazing 192 children, and I knew that I had to have the right 193

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partner to have these amazing children. And it had to 194 be somebody that was open to my path, 195

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my journey, that I was all about healing and growth. I 196 was all about figuring this out, what we're figuring out, and what I'm going to 197

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explain to you today, and that I wasn't going to 198 repeat what I'd experienced with my parents. 199

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I wanted to. The whole experiment was that I wanted to 200 have a partner that could support, not bring the 201

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dysfunction of the past into the present that was at least 202 aware of the impact of the dysfunction of parents can have on 203

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children, and that we could have this relationship where we 204 could, like, this experiment where we could just give 205

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the kids everything they needed to achieve their 206 greatness. And instead of, you know, 207

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operating from the lowest level where you're shutting down everybody 208 around you and you're pulling everybody down to 209

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the dysfunction that came into this lifetime. So I 210 needed somebody that would be on the same journey, the same path as 211

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me, that I knew that I was going to be here today. I knew that 212 I was going to be talking today. I knew that everything that was happening to 213

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me was happening for a purpose, and that I needed somebody that was 214 going to support this life purpose, this path, this 215

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journey. And that's what I'm talking about in 216 this, is that the variables, the factors 217

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should not be physical attraction and that chemistry, 218 because that's really just based on broken programming, 219

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that it should be this kind of 220 soulmate theory, that this is somebody 221

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that's, you're both going to help each other achieve what you're 222 supposed to, your path, your purpose, that this is 223

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somebody that's going to nurture and help and support that. 224 And if you're going to have children together, that 225

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it's going to be support that in your children. 226 So I had all these 227

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things I was involved in. So, like I mentioned, this 228 was church that was all about healing and growth, 229

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and not just spiritual healing and growth, because that's important, 230 but just physical healing and growth, how to be happier, how to 231

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live a happier life, how to build this alignment. 232 And so I was really involved in it. And I'm like, I want 233

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somebody that's open to 234 this. They don't have to be as crazy and believe 235

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it and have a whole life built around it like I am, but somebody that's 236 not gonna be like, oh, just shut me down, 237

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but just be supportive of, hey, I feel this is what I'm supposed to be 238 doing. This is the journey I'm supposed to be on. I'm supposed to have children. 239

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I'm supposed to be doing this anyway, so 240 after my divorce, I started dating. It was 241

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really interesting, because you 242 went through that, that excitement that somebody, 243

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because my marriage was that it 244 ended, it didn't end 245

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poorly. It just ended like, he was a hunter, 246 fisherman. And I put on the calendar every 247

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day that he was gone. And it had been 22 days in a 248 row that he wasn't home. But there was also this feeling that 249

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something else was going on, like he had developed another connection 250 or another relationship. There was something else going on, too, so 251

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he just wasn't home. For 22 days, and finally I'm just like, 252 I'm done. I'm out of here. But he wasn't also in a place where 253

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he could be a good father to children. I always knew that. And I'm like, 254 you know, he just didn't have that maturity, that awareness he 255

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was bringing in the dysfunction that he'd experienced, and that was in his 256 family, so he wasn't the right guy, and I knew that. 257

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And just this whole thing of not being home for 22 days 258 was just, you know, so he would come home after I'd gone 259

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to bed, and it just didn't work. And so I was over it, 260 but I didn't. It was really nice when I first started dating 261

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because it felt really good for someone to 262 want to spend time with you, you know, to be into you, to. 263

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To, like, want to be with you. But those weren't 264 right either. As soon as you got over that part, that 265

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initial euphoric, that initial dopamine, you 266 realize, oh, there's nothing there. There's nothing beyond that 267

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feeling. There's no. There's no alignment. There's no 268 connection. And I was really, really searching for this person 269

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that would help me on this journey, that's this person that would be interested 270 in this healing and growth journey, 271

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this growth of, hey, can we be better in this lifetime? Can we be. 272 Can we just be better people? 273

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So at the church, we were doing lots of these 274 book groups, a course in miracles 275

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we did. And then there was this new book that came out, which was 276 the Celestine prophecy. And so 277

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my girlfriend and I, the one that our parents from this church and 278 introduced me to it, she would do some of these books with 279

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me, and I'm like, this is. 280 I want the type of guy that's open to this 281

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and hoping I don't cry on this one. 282 So, anyway, so we would go, and 283

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we didn't always go to church. We didn't, like. We weren't a, like, really 284 into it. We were just into the whole idea of healing and growth and these 285

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books that would make us better. And there was a whole series of different books 286 we went through. So, anyway, so we would go to, like, borders, and 287

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we go to, like, the book signings and book groups and book clubs 288 and, you know, thinking that, you know, my thing was, 289

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well, maybe I'll meet somebody that's interested in this. 290 So. And every time we went there, 291

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all the guys that were interested in this, all the guys that were 292 open to this were all gay. Like, everybody was gay. 293

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There were no straight, normal guys that went, that were 294 interested in this and you're like, why is 295

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this just, women want to be better? Why don't men want to be better 296 too? Why aren't they open to it? And you go to church and it's all 297

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women and you're like, and then a handful of gay 298 guys and you're like, why? Why do you have to have be 299

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this way to be open to it? Why aren't normal guys? But this is back, 300 you know, eighties, nineties, 301

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early nineties. And guys just, that's not what they 302 did. They weren't supposed to be like that, I think. So anyway, so at 303

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the same time, you know, I had, I had, you know, I told 304 you, I started this job where I got my first marketing job where I was 305

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half marketing and half sales at this company. A note from our 306 sponsor, me and my 307

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to us. And 318 I started there. And I started there before I 319

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was married. So I was engaged to my husband, 320 my first husband. And so we were planning on 321

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getting married. And the 322 first week I met my current husband 323

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and he was married too, and 324 he knew it, 325

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so I 326 was getting married. Sorry. I was getting 327

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married and I went through this two years with this guy that was just 328 every day I come in with these stories like, oh my God, can you believe 329

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this happened? Anyway, and then he also was married. 330 And his 331

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wife, it was, I don't know, 332 maybe a year after I started working there, 333

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he got a call from the bank, from his wife and 334 I. He was three months behind on his mortgage and his 335

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wife handled all their finances and turned 336 out that she had put everything 337

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they own up her nose and 338 he immediately just severed that relationship. He kicked 339

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her out. So we were really good friends 340 and we ate lunch together every day. And we had this young, 341

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you know, we were all like twenties, early thirties, 342 and we had this group of people at work and we'd go out on Friday 343

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nights and we would go out on weekends and there's just this group of 344 friends and we would just hang out and we ate lunch together every day. 345

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And it was just became really good friends. So I supported him 346 through his. Through this break, this 347

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breakup that he had. And we just 348 were friends, you know, really, really good friends. 349

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And he. And then he 350 supported me through my divorce, you 351

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know. And again, we were really good friends. And we used to go out all 352 the time as a group of people. And then one 353

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day he made a pass at me, and I was actually, at that 354 time, seeing someone else, but it was so fresh from my divorce, I was a 355

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little embarrassed. So I didn't tell anybody I was seeing anybody else. So I kind 356 of really shut him down, you know? And this is back in 357

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the day, when you make a pass at somebody, you know, you don't do that 358 now. You ask permission. But. And I 359

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shut him down, but not because I was shutting him down, because I was actually 360 involved in another relationship. So it was so funny. So 361

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we still continued to go out. We can still continued, you know, and I 362 dated different people, and he dated different people, but the 363

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whole time, then I knew that there was something there, but I 364 never really thought anything about it. 365

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So back to 366 this book. So we were doing this book, we were reading 367

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this book, and it was called the Celestine prophecy, and it was all 368 about elevating your vibration. 369

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Like, and it's. It was 370 really interesting because it talked about 371

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energy. Like we're all energy, but we're all 372 vibrating at these different frequencies. And 373

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as you reach this 374 level of healing, which is basically just getting out of your head 375

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and operating from this place, you start vibrating at a 376 higher frequency. And anyway, it's like this metaphor, like all 377

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these inca people, but it was really talking about 378 that, you know, people that are really struggling, people that are 379

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really suffering in a place of really suffering, they're vibrating at this 380 very, very low frequency. And as you, you know, 381

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get out of that space of suffering, and you start to vibrate at a 382 higher frequency and a higher frequency and a higher. And it was really interesting. It 383

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was a really interesting book, and it was about measuring your growth based 384 on this energy level, this vibration, 385

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and and then at the end of it, this weird things, probably 386 aliens or something, but you actually basically vibrate out of 387

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the universe. It's really strange book. At the end, the end lost you. 388 But this whole idea that there's this level of vibration and that people can 389

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be at this and you're attracting people. So as you're moving, 390 you know, the negative, the sufferings attracting this level of 391

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vibration, and you're pulling everything to you. And then 392 as you start to elevate this by getting out of your head, you start 393

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vibrating, you know, at these other levels, and you're attracting all this, and 394 then you're starting to attract the good and. And you're starting to attract more and 395

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more and more. And it just. It. It's a really interesting theory 396 that. So it's like, it's positive energy. So the negative 397

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energy attracts the negative energy, neutral energy 398 attracts neutral energy, and then really positive energy attracts really 399

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positive stuff. And then amazing things start to happen when you're at this. Like, it's 400 just crazy. So anyways, so this book was called the celestine prophecy, and it 401

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really resonated with me because I'm like, hey, that is a nice 402 measurement about how well you're doing. You know, is this. 403

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This whole, how positive are you? What's your energy? Like, 404 what are you doing? What are you putting out there? What is this level of 405

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vibration? And are you attracting all the good stuff to you, 406 or are you attracting all the things that you don't really want? And so it 407

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was a really cool theory. I'm like, wow, this is great. 408 My girlfriend and I went to the book signing at borders and met all the 409

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gay guys, and it was very disappointing. So 410 I'm like, I want a guy that wants this, 411

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that's interested. So 412 one night we were all out as a group from 413

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work, and I never went back to Greg's 414 house because he had lots of cats. 415

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He was a cat guy and he had a dog. And I was 416 highly, absolutely, totally allergic 417

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to everything. So I never went to his 418 house. But one night after work, you know, we've 419

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been out with a group, and then I think he drove or something, but there's 420 a reason I came over to his house and I forget what it was, but 421

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it wasn't a. There wasn't anything there. It was just, I happened to 422 be, 423

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and I walked in. Sorry, 424 sorry. It's really emotional. Cause it's so cool 425

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on his coffee table, it's his book. 426 And I'm like. I'm like, 427

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oh, my God, this? You're reading this? I'm like, we are so into 428 this right now. We're just like, it just. It's a great way of measuring, 429

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you know, health and growth. And he goes, yeah. He goes, I was just drawn 430 to it. I just. I just. I just got this 431

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book. I don't know, I'm drawn to it, like, oh, my 432 God. So the first 433

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day. Sorry. Really emotional. 434 So the first day 435

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he met me, he knew, but I was like, oh, my 436 God, he's not my type. You know, he had a beard, and I hated 437

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facial hair. He looked like Kenny loggins. And I thought that was like. 438 Like, you just grow it a little bit longer and you look like Jesus. And, 439

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no, no, no, no. So I hated facial hair. I hated, you know, I 440 hated he, you know, anyway, there was just so many things physically about 441

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him that I'm like, no, this is not my guy. And. But he 442 knew from the very first date I was going into a marriage. He was in 443

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a marriage. He knew from the very first day he met me. And 444 anyway, so still, I'm like, oh, my gosh. I can't 445

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believe it. You're reading this book, and he's like, yes. And, you know, so then 446 we started talking about the things that I didn't. I talked to my girlfriend 447

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about, but I never. I never talked to a guy about 448 it, you know, about this. This healing and growth and becoming better 449

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and not repeating the past and just. Just growing, growing, 450 growing. And he was all open to it. He was so open to it. He 451

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was so open to everything. So we became more than friends. 452 And the 453

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very first cycle, the very first egg, I 454 was pregnant, and it was the same 455

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birth control I used all through my marriage. For years, I'd 456 use the same birth control. And there's absolutely no. 457

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There's no physical reason why that 458 happened other than, I say, the universe 459

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said, this is the guy you're marrying. So we got married four months 460 later. I was just barely showing. And 461

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it has been. I didn't pick him. The universe picked 462 him. And it's been the most 463

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absolute amazing journey. And 464 he. All my craziness, 465

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I'm like, this is what I want to do. This is how I want to 466 do it. I want to put our life out there. I want to make us 467

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public. I believe these stories I'm supposed to be telling people. This 468 is what I'm supposed to be doing. This is it. Everything 469

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about us is going to be public. And he's like, go for it. 470 Like, he supports me. Everything I've ever done, 471

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he supported me. And so 472 our pickers are broken. 473

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That, and I call it a picker. 474 How we pick our partner, the 475

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way we pick people, is not. That is not the way we should do it. 476 And that we should find these other variables, which are 477

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the energy measure the energy measure the vibration 478 measure the movement and energy. It is fine. 479

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And my husband is onion boy, okay? My husband. And when we 480 go through his stories. Oh, my gosh, you think my stories are 481

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crazy? You should hear his stories. This 482 guy is absolute onion boy. And 483

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he never had any therapy. He never got anything that he 484 needed. Sorry, I went to blow. My nose is dripping a little bit. He 485

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never got any therapy. He never got any. He. 486 You know, and I'll have him tell his stories, but basically, his father 487

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was an alcoholic, and all the nastiness and horribleness that came 488 with that. And 489

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he's onion boy, but he is grown. 490 He's amazing. He's been the most 491

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amazing father to nurture our children. He's mostly most 492 amazing partner. And we. 493

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It is the most beautiful thing. So I had 494 these going back. I had this vision of what 495

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I wanted in a husband, and it's really funny. 496 So, on my mother's 497

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side, I've 498 told you about my mother. She said her parents weren't very nice. And 499

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all the things that came from my mother, 500 it's just dripping. It's a little teary here. So all 501

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the things that came from my mother were how to keep your man in 502 control. You know, always keep money on 503

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the side. Don't let the left hand know what the right hand's doing. You know, 504 really, basically, how to control your man, how to control the 505

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money. Everything was like, really, like these really negative 506 rules. And it was never. It never felt like there should be this 507

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loving relationship. And my mother was never happy. 508 And so I never. Until later in life. 509

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She was happy later in life, but basically, it never 510 felt like a good marriage. It felt 511

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like she always felt like. It always felt like she was in the wrong place, 512 that my dad forced her to have children, and her job was to 513

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take care of the children. And there was never this balance and this 514 equality and this support of each other. But on my father's 515

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side, 516 his father absolutely loved and adored his 517

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mother. He would sit on the couch next to her 518 and just hold her hand, and he was so 519

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happy. Like, he was just so happy being with her, being in her 520 presence. And I hated it because she really took 521

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advantage of it. She always had, like, you know, she was always not well, 522 and he always had to do everything, and he had to make the meals, and 523

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we'd come over, and he'd have to make something, and he'd have to take care 524 of us, and, you know, and he would be the host. He'd 525

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be everything, and she would just sit on the couch, and. But 526 he loved and adored her. And, you know, 527

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I always said, I never want to be rich, I never want to be famous, 528 but that's what I want, and that's what I have. And 529

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it's so amazing, and it's so beautiful. And 530 when you, and especially once we did three principles, because, 531

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so the three principles is all about getting out of your head. And what 532 you find is all those reasons that 533

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make it unacceptable in a marriage, they all disappear. So all the 534 things that annoy you about them, they just disappear. They're just ideas and thoughts that 535

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you're churning over. And so you get past all of that, and then you start 536 to build this really deep connection, and then you start doing things for 537

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each other that are so beautiful and so wonderful. So let me 538 tell you about what this looks like when you get to the next level. 539

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So if you're on the video, you can see I've got my brown shirt on 540 today. So you start doing things that 541

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are beyond just the normal, 542 doing things to be nice to each other. So my daughter 543

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played basketball, and 544 I didn't know anything about sports, especially not 545

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american sports, but having a child that played soccer, I under 546 learned the rules to soccer, and then she played basketball, and I learned the 547

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rules to basketball. And then, like I said, she graduated with twelve RC letters. So 548 we learned a lot of sports, but she never played football, so 549

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I never understood football, but I knew that if I 550 watched the game enough, I could, I could understand it. 551

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I could understand what was going on and I could learn it 552 just like I learned basketball from all the rules, just watching the 553

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game. So one of the gifts that I gave my husband was, 554 he absolutely loves the Browns, he loves football, but I couldn't tolerate it in the 555

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house, because every game, it's like, 556 it's a very dysfunctional relationship. Being a Browns fan is, 557

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you know, halfway during the, you know, you have all this hope and optimism, and 558 then halfway during the season, the team would start to break down and 559

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let you down, and then it would all be this. My husband would go to 560 his lowest level and start, you know, cursing at them and be 561

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disappointed with them. And it felt like his lifetime, everything experienced with 562 his parents was coming out towards the Browns. It was very, 563

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very, very not emotionally intelligent, his approach 564 to the Browns. So, anyway, but I'm like, you know, he 565

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absolutely is passionate about this, absolutely loves it, and I want to be part of 566 it. I would always send him out of the house with his friends, 567

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whatever, because I couldn't tolerate this 568 rollercoaster of emotions in the house and the negativity, especially around the 569

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children and the language, and just, it was awful. 570 So I'd send him out, but I would watch him and 571

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I would learn the game, and I learned the game and I learned everything about 572 it. And then I became, I knew, because once I knew I knew 573

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it, I know I would have a passion for it, like I had for basketball 574 and like some of the other sports that I, once I understood it, then you 575

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could develop this passion for it. So I 576 learned the game and I learned the Browns, and I learned everything. And then I 577

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kind of said, hey, this is my gift, but if you 578 want to watch the Browns with me, you have to show up with emotional 579

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intelligence. I am not allowing you to go down this road. And 580 he's been really good. He won't get there. And he starts to go there. I'm 581

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like, you're going to have to leave the house if you're going to show up 582 like that, but this is going to be the year. So in the playoffs today, 583

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so I've got my brown shirt on and it's just really exciting because 584 for Browns fans, it's been a long journey to get here, and I just know 585

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they're going to do great. And even if they don't do great this year, they're 586 going to be amazing next year when everybody's healthy, so, 587

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and then my gift, so, so that's it. I 588 learned to do something that he loved, and I think 589

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that's where you start to see relationships reach a whole new level 590 where you can actually enjoy each other's passions. And then 591

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my gift to him this year was he loved ipas, and 592 I just could not tolerate IPA's beer. 593

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I just, you know, I'm in English, you know, just give me english 594 beers, I'm good. So I know it 595

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takes, so it takes three days to get off sugar, 596 believe it or not, three days. And it takes two weeks to change your taste 597

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bud. But, so if you don't like vegetables, just eat 598 vegetables for two weeks, the same vegetable every for two weeks, and 599

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you will, your taste buds will adapt and you will start loving 600 it. So easy to get on a healthy diet anyway, 601

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so I knew that if I drank ipas for a week, 602 two weeks, my taste buds will change and I will be able 603

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to tolerate and enjoy ipas with him. So 604 I did that. That was my gift to him last year, was 605

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I will change my taste buds so that I can 606 enjoy the same things you enjoy. And then we developed this whole, 607

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like, craft brewery because that became a thing around here. We've got like 608 twelve craft, craft breweries within 3 miles. And 609

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so we would, I'm exaggerating, it's probably only eight, 610 but we'd go and we'd do beer and 611

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brainstorming. So we would go on a Sunday afternoon and 612 we'd have, you know, flight of ipas and we'd 613

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do brainstorming for the podcast, for this podcast. 614 And it included him. He was a part of it. We had so much 615

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fun. It was really enjoyable. We're always 616 happy together, we're always love each other's 617

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company, and it is absolutely possible 618 to have that type of relationship. And so I'm 619

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just putting it out there that maybe 620 choosing based on physical attraction is 621

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not the right metric, that there are so many 622 other factors that you can find alignment, and you can 623

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find that partner that's going to be that person that 624 is supporting you on your real path, 625

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your true journey. And so 626 I hope to start 627

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a matchmaking service. So my goal 628 is to figure this out and to have this 629

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matchmaking service that is based on these other 630 variables, that we find a way to measure this, we find a way 631

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to quantify it, and then we find a way to match people 632 that we are the arranged marriages of 633

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this century, and that we are doing things in a 634 completely different way than anybody 635

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else's. And we're looking at variables that no one's ever 636 looked at. And we're looking at how to 637

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align your path, your 638 goals, with the perfect person to support 639

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that. So it's a completely 640 different model. And it's something that I want to do 641

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in my lifetime is to come up with this. And so 642 that's really the end of this podcast, which 643

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is there's a better way to do this, and I want to kind of 644 spearhead that. And that's a business I'd like to develop. 645

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So thank you for listening, and 646 thank you for spending time with me today. And I hope if you're 647

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not in that relationship, that this has helped you 648 see that it's absolutely possible. Thank you.

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