This episode delves into the intricate dynamics of emotional influences on men's behavior, with particular emphasis on the pervasive emotion of guilt. We explore how guilt serves as a powerful motivator, compelling men to make decisions that may not align with their true desires. It is posited that the pursuit of approval, often engendered by societal expectations, significantly shapes men's choices and interactions, leading to potentially toxic situations. The discussion further extends to the implications of these emotions in personal relationships, particularly the challenges men face in balancing their own needs with those of their partners. Throughout the episode, we engage in candid dialogues that illuminate the broader societal context surrounding these emotional struggles, ultimately encouraging a deeper understanding of the complexities of masculinity in contemporary society.
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Speaker B:This week on the five minute warning.
Speaker C:We all got labels, man.
Speaker C:Like, AG Is the republican, loving can't come to the cookout person.
Speaker C:I am the resident sexist.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:We all got a label.
Speaker C:Whether it's true or not, we got a label.
Speaker C:That's your label, man.
Speaker B:The show that gives you everything and nothing at all.
Speaker B:That's everywhere you don't want to be.
Speaker B:It's Reuben, Mo B.
Speaker B:And on the ones and twos, AG.
Speaker A:The five minute warning.
Speaker A:Welcome, everybody, to a brand new episode of five minute warning.
Speaker A:Of course, as always, it's your man Ruby in the house.
Speaker A:And of course with me always is my cousin AG.
Speaker B:What's happening, y'?
Speaker C:All?
Speaker B:How you doing?
Speaker A:Oh, man, man, things have been phenomenal.
Speaker A:Actually, you know, I will be.
Speaker A:I will say this.
Speaker A:I'm kind of tiny, sad that, you know, the main event of Wrestlemania is going on.
Speaker A:That's cool.
Speaker A:That's why, like, I pay for.
Speaker A:So I can watch it later.
Speaker A:Like, I'm not stressed.
Speaker A:But I'm gonna be very honest with you, Ro.
Speaker A:Roman Reigns, man, he.
Speaker A:His wrestling is slow.
Speaker A:I can't do it.
Speaker A:So, like, I'd rather just hear who wins and I'll see the ending and, like, that I'm not stressed, you know, but.
Speaker A:Yo, man, nah, other than that, this past week has been pretty awesome.
Speaker A:What about you, AG?
Speaker A:Not bad.
Speaker B:It was the wife's birthday this weekend.
Speaker A:Happy birthday to her.
Speaker A:Happy birthday to her.
Speaker A:Did you do the, like, the Jackson 5 birthday joint?
Speaker B:We will not be doing that, sir.
Speaker A:No, no, I'm saying, did you do that?
Speaker A:Like I did?
Speaker A:Did you wake up in the morning and the Jackson 5 birthday joint?
Speaker A:Cause, I mean, she would have loved that because it was from you.
Speaker B:She would have tolerated it because it wouldn't have been very good.
Speaker B:What's up?
Speaker B:It wouldn't have been very good, sir.
Speaker A:Mowing the house.
Speaker A:Mo in the house.
Speaker A:Hey, man, it's not about.
Speaker A:From what I understand, because I'm not.
Speaker A:This whole married thing, sometimes it's about the thought that counts.
Speaker B:Oh, there was plenty of thought going into other things.
Speaker B:Not me singing.
Speaker A:Oh, well, there we go.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, you know, I hear from.
Speaker A:And y' all can.
Speaker A:Y' all can help me out on this.
Speaker A:We're gonna.
Speaker A:We're gonna get a little adult very quickly and very short.
Speaker A:I mean, the word on the street is like, birthdays are the days for taking care of business.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, it doesn't work that way when it's a woman's birthday, sir.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Explain to me how it works.
Speaker B:Not even close.
Speaker A:I mean, y' all tell me how it works, gentlemen, because I don't know.
Speaker B:Well, for.
Speaker B:For men, we hope that we get the birthday things that every other man is not married thinks that we get.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker B:For women, it's a totally different thing.
Speaker B:It's just like the celebration, the presents, the, you know, the showering, the, you know, all that showering of love.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Presents, all the things.
Speaker B:So the.
Speaker B:The experience and the expectations are different.
Speaker A:Okay, so.
Speaker A:So doing the other stuff ain't that important?
Speaker B:No, not unless you have that type of woman.
Speaker B:But on average, you know, it kind of feels like.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:I tell you what.
Speaker B:Something you can understand.
Speaker B:It's the same as how you treat your mom on Mother's Day.
Speaker B:It's about the same thing.
Speaker B:Mechanically, it's kind of the same thing.
Speaker A:That's scary.
Speaker B:How's it scary?
Speaker C:Why is it scary?
Speaker C:Yeah, why is it scary?
Speaker A:I mean, I don't know.
Speaker A:So I'm just.
Speaker B:I mean, you said it for a reason.
Speaker B:I'm curious now.
Speaker A:No, I mean, it's like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, could you get why you would think it's any different?
Speaker C:And the only reason I'm asking that is because it's like, all right.
Speaker C:Even though you're not.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker C:You still hear all the same tropes about, like, hey, you know, what doesn't happen when Barry.
Speaker A:Sex.
Speaker C:So now I'm wondering, like, why you would think on her birthday,.
Speaker B:Something that.
Speaker C:We consider a reward for us would somehow be given to us.
Speaker A:But I don't.
Speaker C:I'm just baffled at your thought process,.
Speaker A:Like, because I guess I don't know what to think.
Speaker C:Men.
Speaker C:Men are not allowed to give sex as a gift.
Speaker C:Only women are allowed to say vagina is the gift.
Speaker A:Okay, so.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So Nikki has checked in.
Speaker A:She's like, not on my birthday.
Speaker A:That's more for anniversary now.
Speaker A:I don't know if she's talking about the whole sex thing or.
Speaker B:Yeah, she's gonna need to clarify because I'm not really sure either.
Speaker C:But I don't.
Speaker C:I don't know what she's talking about.
Speaker A:Either, or she's talking about, like, you.
Speaker A:Like, you gave the thing about it's hot.
Speaker A:Like you would treat your mom on Mother's Day, you know?
Speaker B:Well, see, that's like, you treat, like.
Speaker A:With her on that.
Speaker A:On the anniversary, but on her birthday, they about to get down, down, down, down.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:But I don't know.
Speaker A:I'm speaking for her, Reuben.
Speaker B:I'm still at the part where I'm like.
Speaker B:When I said it's kind of like how you treat your mom on Mother's Day.
Speaker B:And you were.
Speaker B:You had all this trepidation.
Speaker B:I'm trying to figure out what's the problem.
Speaker A:I think it.
Speaker A:I think the situation, I think is just.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Nikki just told you sex isn't a birthday gift.
Speaker C:Told you.
Speaker C:I'm telling you, man, that the only time that's ever used as a gift is when directed at us.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Because women aren't going to try hard enough to really do it right necessarily.
Speaker B:But they can always fall back on the coochie.
Speaker B:That's just the truth.
Speaker B:Now, every woman's not like that.
Speaker B:Mine is not.
Speaker B:I gotta calm her down.
Speaker B:However, for a lot of women, the effort's just not there.
Speaker B:So they just give you some and.
Speaker B:And it feels like a gift because they ain't gave you none in about a month.
Speaker B:So it's like, you know, it's a whole thing, man.
Speaker B:It's a whole thing.
Speaker B:But I'm curious.
Speaker B:Answer.
Speaker B:Answer the initial question.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think it was more or less the.
Speaker A:It wasn't more the.
Speaker A:What am I trying to say?
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:I guess I didn't necessarily like the.
Speaker A:The comparison.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:I think it was more.
Speaker A:I think it was more the comparison of, you know, you treat your wife's birthday as you treat your mom on Mother's Day.
Speaker A:For me, I just didn't.
Speaker A:I mean, it's pretty boring, like.
Speaker A:But if that's what it is.
Speaker A:It's what it is.
Speaker B:How is it boring?
Speaker B:You keep leading me down this rabbit.
Speaker A:How is it?
Speaker A:No, I mean, like, on Mother's Day, I might give my mom some flowers or whatever, and that's Happy Mother's Day.
Speaker A:And that's kind of it.
Speaker A:Like, it's not like it's a big old.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:But what I'm saying is that's kind of this that's kind of mechanically.
Speaker B:That's kind of how it is, except it's much more intense.
Speaker B:But you spend a lot of time, you know, pedestals are high.
Speaker B:Showering of gifts, all about you.
Speaker B:Like when my.
Speaker B:The first.
Speaker B:Like the first thing I tell my wife all the time is like, hey, I'm glad.
Speaker B:I'm glad, you know, I ain't got to go to jail because you just turned 18.
Speaker B:Making her feel young.
Speaker B:All the things, cuz, you know, So.
Speaker A:I just think that.
Speaker A:I think the.
Speaker A:For me and I.
Speaker A:Maybe other people might be like, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker A:I just think the.
Speaker A:The comparison was a little off.
Speaker A:But that's okay.
Speaker A:It's not that big of a deal.
Speaker A:I understand now what y' all saying.
Speaker A:Pretty much it's like, love me, love me, love me, love me.
Speaker A:But the sex thing is whatever.
Speaker A:It's like a showering of love, but, like, we ain't banging unless your wife just does that, but then it's not a gift for her.
Speaker B:Wait a minute.
Speaker B:Back up.
Speaker B:It's like a showering of love when you're banging.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:Unless, like, it's like a showering of love except the sex part.
Speaker A:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Like, you know, so.
Speaker A:No, I understand that.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:Yeah, the Mother's Day thing just threw me off.
Speaker A:It's okay, though.
Speaker A:All right?
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker A:You know that guy said,.
Speaker B:This has gone to a place where it didn't need to go.
Speaker B:I'm sorry, Ruben.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Sorry, sorry.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker A:It's all right, man.
Speaker A:Reuben, I'm required.
Speaker A:I'm a.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:I'm just saying I can quickly capsulate it, man.
Speaker C:The only thing typically we can do on her birthday is mess it up.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker C:Like, literally the whole goal is just.
Speaker C:I don't want to fuck this up.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I couldn't agree more.
Speaker B:I could not agree more.
Speaker C:You're talking about, like, getting a private at the end of it.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:No, man, I'm just trying not to this up.
Speaker A:Okay, Gotcha.
Speaker C:Don't want to mess this up because.
Speaker A:You're never hitting that one.
Speaker C:No, it's not yet.
Speaker C:Messing that one day up will mess up the rest of the year for you.
Speaker B:See, he disagreed me when I said about a Valentine's Day.
Speaker B:But see, it's the same.
Speaker B:It's the same thing, man.
Speaker B:There's certain days forgetting your anniversary is kind of the third for her birthday.
Speaker B:And like, what is the other one?
Speaker B:Her birthday.
Speaker B:Oh, and Mother's Day.
Speaker B:If She's a mom.
Speaker B:If you mess those up.
Speaker B:And again, you have to take notes.
Speaker B:Like, I know for a fact there has to be a card involved.
Speaker B:It took me about three or four years to understand that cards mean a lot to her.
Speaker B:So cards have to be involved.
Speaker B:I can do nothing else, but if I forget that card, bruh.
Speaker A:So when it's all said and done, right, like, the birthday thing is pretty much like, hey, these are the list of things that you need to do so you don't fuck this day up.
Speaker A:Like, so pool.
Speaker A:Like, so if your wife likes cards, you're gonna make sure you get her.
Speaker B:A car all day.
Speaker A:But if she doesn't like car, you're gonna make sure you ain't doing that.
Speaker B:Because I'm telling you, it's like, this is the one time I think women are accurate.
Speaker B:It's like they'll tell you what they like and what they don't.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker B:Yeah, don't.
Speaker B:If you're.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, I'm gonna disagree with you on that.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker C:I'm gonna disagree with you on the.
Speaker C:Tell you what they want.
Speaker C:Now, you can maybe pick up what they want based on context clues, but there are a whole bunch of women who will give you the, oh, I don't really want anything.
Speaker C:It's not a big deal, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker C:They don't give you much of a direction to go on, but it's still your job not to fuck it up.
Speaker B:No, I understand that.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker B:What I'm saying to you is like, if there's something.
Speaker B:Like, I knew a dude I used to work with.
Speaker B:His wife did not, and I repeat, did not like flowers.
Speaker B:She thought.
Speaker B:I mean, from a pragmatic standpoint, from an emotional standpoint, it didn't mean anything to.
Speaker A:Yeah, watch it.
Speaker B:And he messed around and did it one time and learned the hard way.
Speaker B:That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker B:A lot of times women will be very honest about what they don't want.
Speaker B:Like what Nikki said.
Speaker A:It's like, that's true.
Speaker C:That's true.
Speaker B:Sex isn't a birthday they don't want.
Speaker B:So to wake Nikki up in the morning, like, girl, I got this pee pee for you.
Speaker B:Come on, boo boo.
Speaker B:She like, ew, ew.
Speaker B:Stop being cringe and take me somewhere.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:The vibe is different, but they will tell you what they don't want.
Speaker B:And so you have to pay attention to those things.
Speaker B:And once you get a good list, then it's on.
Speaker A:Like you said, you'll hear those statements after we've told you many times what we like or want.
Speaker A:And that means your ass ain't paying attention.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you, you get what you get.
Speaker B:And that's where we go back to, you know, don't mess it up.
Speaker B:Just don't, man.
Speaker B:It's just like, don't mess it up.
Speaker B:You are playing not to lose at this point.
Speaker A:Don't mess it up.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Check.
Speaker A:All right, cool.
Speaker A:You know, list of things, what happens once you get a female in your life?
Speaker A:You know, that sort of thing.
Speaker A:So, Ag, you got a question from Ogle Cowboy.
Speaker A:What's your go to breakfast meal you make for your wife?
Speaker B:I have gathered quite a few things.
Speaker B:And it doesn't have to be because I'm a first round draft pick.
Speaker B:I can make all the throws.
Speaker B:I can make all the throws, sir.
Speaker B:So she gets Valentine's birthday, Mom's day level cuisine, because.
Speaker B:Hey, hey.
Speaker B:You want homemade pancakes?
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker B:Ooh, can you do your eggs?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Oh, I'm feeling a little iron deficient.
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker B:I'm gonna take you out.
Speaker B:Or I can do the steak or the hamburger or whatever.
Speaker B:So it's just like, you get to the point, if you're really putting in work in the film room, you really putting in work at practice, okay, you have, you have a, you know, a tool belt worth of stuff that you can just whip out anytime.
Speaker B:And then once, because like, my wife, what my wife does is like, I was like on like a Saturday, Sunday morning, whatever.
Speaker B:We don't have anything to do.
Speaker B:It's like, hey, you want pancakes today?
Speaker B:She's like, oh, you're gonna do your eggs.
Speaker B:And then the happy dance starts.
Speaker B:I know I'm good.
Speaker B:Then when I start whipping out flour and butter and all the things, she's like, oh, it's going down now.
Speaker A:Oh, shit.
Speaker B:So that's kind of the answer to that.
Speaker B:You have to make sure.
Speaker B:And this is not a reciprocation type of thing, but as a dude, this is a one sided statement.
Speaker B:As a dude, you have to make sure that you are better than who you were last year.
Speaker B:Because contract negotiations aren't per four years or whatever the term was.
Speaker B:It's every freaking day.
Speaker B:It's every day.
Speaker B:So you gotta show up, make sure you're better than you were, sir.
Speaker B:Make sure you're better than you were.
Speaker B:Whatever that means to your marriage.
Speaker B:Make sure you're better.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:So, Mo B, I got a question for you.
Speaker A:And Nikki says, preach, AJ Mo B, do you think you're a first round draft pick?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:So what do you think?
Speaker A:You fought?
Speaker A:I mean, are you undrafted?
Speaker A:You like 6 second, third round?
Speaker A:Like, what are we talking about here?
Speaker C:Look, man, I. I think.
Speaker C:I think if.
Speaker C:If we're being honest, like if she's being honest, I can't say I was a first round draft pick.
Speaker C:Cause she doesn't remember meeting me.
Speaker B:Huh?
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I always have to remind her when I actually met her.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker C:Because she doesn't remember that whole inter track.
Speaker C:And here's the thing, Ag.
Speaker C:Ruben was there when I first met her.
Speaker A:She doesn't remember and she doesn't remember.
Speaker A:That's trifling.
Speaker A:That's winner.
Speaker A:That's trifling.
Speaker B:So what you're telling me is.
Speaker C:So that's what I'm saying I can't be a first round draft pick because like, obviously I didn't make that much of an impact.
Speaker B:Well, see, okay, I'll tell you what.
Speaker B:I tell you what.
Speaker A:That trifling.
Speaker B:I'll tell you who Mo is.
Speaker B:Mo is Mr.
Speaker B:Irrelevant.
Speaker B:Tom Brady version.
Speaker B:He got kicked last, apparently, because she doesn't remember him.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:He didn't show up on no scouting report.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker A:But where's the love?
Speaker B:He got seven championships and nine appearances.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Because she married him.
Speaker B:She married him freely.
Speaker B:Because the body.
Speaker C:That's why I said, I'm just not gonna say I'm a first round draft pick.
Speaker C:Because you know what?
Speaker C:I am self aware.
Speaker C:I'm self aware.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I had a chip on my shoulder.
Speaker B:From the beginning,.
Speaker A:Jg.
Speaker C:You don't even know the half of it, man.
Speaker C:She doesn't remember meeting me.
Speaker A:She hooked up with her friend.
Speaker B:Oh, I don't entertain others when I'm with someone.
Speaker B:So she was dating someone apparently when she met you.
Speaker C:And that is a 100% fair statement.
Speaker B:Okay, well, see, the way you characterized it, that's not really accurate because what she's saying right now is I might have liked you, but it's like I was with somebody.
Speaker C:See?
Speaker C:Ag.
Speaker C:You said entertain.
Speaker C:That implies that while she was with somebody, I was shooting my shirt.
Speaker C:No, Ag, I just had a actual interaction, normal conversation, hey, nice to meet you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker C:Had a full fledged conversation with her.
Speaker B:And she forgot it all.
Speaker C:And then like.
Speaker C:And then like three or four months later, she was like talking to me as if we had never met.
Speaker C:And I was like, oh, this is what we're doing.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker B:I mean, is that cool?
Speaker A:I'm just here so I don't get.
Speaker A:Fine.
Speaker B:Look, man, only thing I'm saying is because my, my scouting report said, can't do this, can't do that.
Speaker B:I was basically the black quarterback in the 60s and 70s.
Speaker A:Oh, damn.
Speaker B:But ownership was like, I seen the film.
Speaker B:I'm taking them first round, first overall, no matter what y' all say.
Speaker B:So I'm just saying now I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker C:I, I think, I'm pretty sure I wasn't actually drafted by her.
Speaker C:Like, I, I think, I think I hit the waiver wire.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:Not even a free agent, just a waiver wire.
Speaker C:Yeah, I think, I think I hit the waiver wire.
Speaker A:That's fair.
Speaker A:That is a fair assessment.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker C:I hit the waiver wire also.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker C:And she was like, you know what?
Speaker C:I can coach him.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I can coach.
Speaker A:I, I gotta see something in him.
Speaker C:I might be able to do a system.
Speaker C:I got a system that'll work for him.
Speaker C:I think he's an adequate game manager, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:You know, I can accentuate his pros and I can minimize his cons.
Speaker A:He is not wrong there.
Speaker A:He is absolutely not wrong.
Speaker B:That sounds so sad.
Speaker A:I mean, look, man, he got drafted by somebody else and they ain't really know what to do with him.
Speaker A:So instead of re signing him to a new contract, they just go ahead and let him walk and find his other.
Speaker A:Find his next move.
Speaker A:And, you know, winner picked him up, man.
Speaker A:She was like, you know, let's see what I can do with this because I think I can make this work.
Speaker A:And next thing you know, they married, two kids living in the house and life is beautiful.
Speaker A:So it's like, yeah, Boko cowboy forgets nothing.
Speaker B:I mean, hold up though, but do.
Speaker A:You really have to work on your.
Speaker B:Pullout game when you're married?
Speaker C:I said, why do I have to work on it?
Speaker B:Yeah, you married now.
Speaker C:I am perfectly happy with having a very untested.
Speaker C:It incapable, like just.
Speaker C:Yeah, hey, you know, you know what Tom Brady does it do?
Speaker C:Run the option.
Speaker C:It's cool.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, I, I know what I do.
Speaker B:Well.
Speaker B:I know my pull out game is not necessary anymore, so.
Speaker B:I'm married, bro.
Speaker B:It is what it is.
Speaker B:I mean, I can do whatever I want with it now.
Speaker A:I mean, that's.
Speaker C:Ruben, I appreciate you picking up the waiver wire reference.
Speaker A:I'm like, yes, sir.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:I mean, but that sound like, didn't nobody want you I'm like, dang, no, no.
Speaker C:See, nobody wanted me.
Speaker C:I was with a team.
Speaker C:It didn't stick.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I thought I put some good film out there, but obviously they was like, this ain't the direction we going.
Speaker A:I mean, I'm not saying the man was Sam Donald.
Speaker A:I'm just saying, like, you know, he was somebody.
Speaker B:You know What?
Speaker A:I was A.J.
Speaker C:I was Chris Carter with the Eagles.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, people don't even remember he played for the Eagles, but the Vikings picked him up off the waiver wire.
Speaker B:But he was so good with the Eagles.
Speaker B:Just had off the field stuff.
Speaker C:Ag.
Speaker C:I would argue that I was pretty good on the team I was with, too.
Speaker B:True enough.
Speaker B:Because if not,.
Speaker A:Hey, man, I mean, oh, Jesus.
Speaker A:All these football references in the draft, is this coming with full?
Speaker B:But, Ruben, I just.
Speaker B:Before we leave this, I just want you to know, I said it earlier.
Speaker B:When you get your girl, understand that the energy is not matched, okay?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:As long as you understand that most women don't match the same energy they require.
Speaker B:So just understand that.
Speaker A:Almost definitely.
Speaker A:Look at Nikki.
Speaker A:Well, the owners didn't agree.
Speaker B:The owners didn't agree.
Speaker C:Hey, that is true.
Speaker C:But you know what?
Speaker C:It worked out well for me.
Speaker C:I don't know what that team did afterwards.
Speaker A:I mean, and the owners were good friends.
Speaker A:It just didn't work.
Speaker A:It worked.
Speaker A:It didn't work for one all the way.
Speaker A:And the other one picked up, realized, hey, man, you left the diamond in rough play.
Speaker A:I got it.
Speaker A:And that's what it was.
Speaker A:You know, Next thing you know, you know, shit.
Speaker C:Think of it like this, Ag.
Speaker C:It would be as if I was on a team, that team didn't want me.
Speaker C:But a coach that was on that team, went to another team, was like, hey, nah, I saw what he could do, and you just weren't using it right.
Speaker C:So let me.
Speaker C:Let me bring it over here.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker B:I do agree with all that.
Speaker B:That's for sure.
Speaker B:Because I. I was on a few teams myself.
Speaker C:On any given Sunday.
Speaker C:That's what I was.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I hear you.
Speaker C:I was really beaten on the end of it.
Speaker C:He was like, hey, I'm going to another.
Speaker C:And you know what?
Speaker C:Just so I make a good decision, I'm gonna take the quarterback with me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, him and his invisible juice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I learned a few practice squads.
Speaker B:Just saying I was.
Speaker A:I'm still in the ufl.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker C:So, I mean, you still got your cleats on, man, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Hey, man, bruh, I mean, gotta have a cleats on.
Speaker B:Hey, before we leave the whole football, before we leave all the football references.
Speaker B:Reuben, I don't know if you know this or not, but the commanders have made an amendment to their logo.
Speaker B:And I thought it was the most expensive thing ever.
Speaker B:I was like, I thought we were going away from this, so.
Speaker A:That's a world, man.
Speaker A:Give my opinion on it because I talked to Moby about it briefly and honestly, man, here's the thing, like,.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker A:Don't really have an issue with it.
Speaker A:To me, yeah, it could be seen as a, a shot.
Speaker A:I think honestly, it's like, look, look, you ain't getting the other name back.
Speaker A:Here's a spear, got the up and this is it.
Speaker A:Now I would be if it was something else, I'd probably be a little more upset.
Speaker A:I'm not necessarily mad at the spirit thing.
Speaker A:It goes through the W. You know, it kind of looks okay.
Speaker A:So it's not like it doesn't like, oh my God, you know, whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:So yeah, I'm fine with it.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker A:I'm fine with it.
Speaker A:You know, you can make it into a.
Speaker A:It's a more than what it is to me.
Speaker A:It's like, look, you ain't getting the name back.
Speaker A:We'll give you this because they could have, it could have been a lot worse.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:It is only on one of the helmets.
Speaker A:So it was only on the, the home burgundy helmet.
Speaker A:So you know what?
Speaker B:I saw it on the black one.
Speaker B:So it's on the black one too.
Speaker A:I just see it on the black one.
Speaker C:I think it's on the black one.
Speaker A:Yeah, but you know what?
Speaker A:They don't wear the black ones every week.
Speaker A:And I think last year they wore the black uniforms like twice and whatever.
Speaker A:So like, you know, it's.
Speaker A:I, I'm not super upset about that.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:You know, sometimes you gotta, sometimes got to, I mean, you know, you just got to be like, you know what, whatever, you know, Cuz some people might be like, well, it's a dog whistle.
Speaker A:I'm like, I don't think it's a dog whistle.
Speaker A:I just is like, look, it's almost like to me, it's like, look, shut the up, this ain't happening.
Speaker A:Here's a spear.
Speaker A:We're going to put it through the W. It's not touching people.
Speaker A:None of that.
Speaker A:And that's it.
Speaker A:Like, we ain't got spears all in Our uniform and all this other stuff, it's in the W. It doesn't even look like.
Speaker A:It doesn't have feathers at the end of it.
Speaker A:None of that.
Speaker A:It's just a spear.
Speaker A:Let it go.
Speaker A:And, you know, I think.
Speaker C:I think the people who made that decision are very much depending on people like you to defend it in that, man.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, because I guess my thing is, is, like, I don't know, maybe.
Speaker A:Maybe I'm just to the point of.
Speaker A:Look, man, you're not going to change people's minds.
Speaker A:My people got their shit made up, and it's just whatever, you know, as much as I was going through old shit this weekend, and I saw some hats, man, and it's got the old name on it, and I put it back in the bag and put it back in the closet.
Speaker A:I mean, I will probably never wear any of that again, especially unless, like, I were to put something over it or something like that.
Speaker A:But still, I got a new.
Speaker A:I got a new commander's jersey, bro.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Like, I'll probably never wear any of that stuff ever again.
Speaker A:I'm very.
Speaker A:I'm very fine.
Speaker A:You know, other people.
Speaker A:I can't control other people.
Speaker A:I can control myself.
Speaker B:Understood.
Speaker A:And I mean.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's not like it looks bad.
Speaker A:It doesn't look horrible, number one.
Speaker A:I think it doesn't look horrible.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker C:I mean, once again, ag.
Speaker C:You see what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, they're very much dependent on.
Speaker B:Man.
Speaker B:I just wanted to let you to know that I love you, sir.
Speaker A:I do.
Speaker B:And I'm gonna move on.
Speaker B:I mean, I thought some things when I saw that none of them were good, but okay.
Speaker C:I mean, I've had to wrestle with the same thing as, like, an Atlanta Braves fan.
Speaker C:Like, they used to do the tomahawk chop, and they still use the ax on the symbol for Atlanta.
Speaker C:Like, sometimes they'll still use the ax.
Speaker C:And I'm just like.
Speaker C:I see what you're doing there, like, because, you know, the people who just don't want to let it go are itching to have something out there that lets you know.
Speaker C:I'm still going to acknowledge your little bit of racism.
Speaker C:It's okay.
Speaker C:It's okay to just have a little hate in you.
Speaker C:So here we go.
Speaker B:We're gonna.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker C:We're gonna put the tip in.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Basically, it's the put the tip in version of racism.
Speaker A:Hey, man, you don't deserve all of it, but you're gonna get this little bit.
Speaker A:Just Let you know what you're missing.
Speaker B:Understood.
Speaker B:Understood.
Speaker A:I mean, but yeah, I mean, I don't have all the answers, nor do I feel like either way is.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I'm just not.
Speaker A:I guess a lot of it is.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Part of me kind of just.
Speaker A:I'm over talking about it.
Speaker A:Like, I'm kind of over it.
Speaker A:You know, I. I do feel like when it's all said and done, it's like, yeah, we're the commanders now.
Speaker A:Just move on.
Speaker A:But I understand there are a whole bunch of people up there who can't, so.
Speaker A:Man, my uniform.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:My jersey doesn't have that.
Speaker A:I got the jersey from last year, and I'm very happy with my jersey.
Speaker A:So, you know, even though the black uniforms do look dope.
Speaker A:Do look dope, man, black uniforms as a whole look dope.
Speaker A:I mean, so, like, yeah, like K. Biaco.
Speaker A:Like, I get it.
Speaker A:Like, God's spirit is buried.
Speaker A:Old stuff is all tight.
Speaker A:I 100 agree.
Speaker A:But, I mean, when it's all said and done, it's like, you know,.
Speaker B:Move.
Speaker A:On by bringing back something from the past.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, it could have been worse.
Speaker A:Last year, they brought back Mark Rippon.
Speaker A:Of course, he's like, hail to the Redskins.
Speaker A:And we're just like, what the.
Speaker A:Like, come on, man, Read their room.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:But, yeah, let me see what.
Speaker A:Nikki, we can let the whole team ride.
Speaker A:It wouldn't be.
Speaker A:Yeah, okay.
Speaker A:All right, so we.
Speaker A:We've done that.
Speaker A:WrestleMania's been dope this weekend.
Speaker A:You know, I'm glad it's happened, even though I'm a little pissed off about the sound system there.
Speaker A:But it.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker A:I'll save that for later on in the.
Speaker A:In the episode and.
Speaker A:And what's on my mind.
Speaker A:But look, let's talk about some real.
Speaker A:So last week we had a question, but we never really got to it because, as usual, we get caught up in other.
Speaker A:And so we're going to revert back to that question.
Speaker A:So the question is very simple.
Speaker A:What emotions controls what men do the most?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You know, because we do a lot of things.
Speaker A:But my question more is it's like, what.
Speaker A:What are we?
Speaker A:Which emotion are.
Speaker A:Is the most in control of men as a whole now?
Speaker A:Well, not as a whole as you.
Speaker A:So, like, ag.
Speaker A:Like, of all the emotions that really move you, which emotions are one that really dictates how you move?
Speaker B:Chasing approval.
Speaker B:It's the same thing I said three weeks ago.
Speaker B:We were talking about something else, but it's the same thing for me.
Speaker B:It's Just like when I look at myself, when I look at men interact with their women and that includes moms like every woman at every stage in your life.
Speaker B:We're always looking for that approval from them and we work hard to do it and that's how we get caught up in toxic situations.
Speaker B:And women understand how to manipulate it to their advantage.
Speaker B:Even in a, like, even if it's not malicious, they understand how to do these things.
Speaker B:So and when I, when I look at it and I subtract, you know, that desire for approval, my life and decision making are 100% different, 100%.
Speaker B:Now it doesn't mean that I won't provide or protect and all those things.
Speaker B:That's a whole nother emotion for me, sort of.
Speaker B:But the decisions I make behind it are a lot different.
Speaker B:Like I would live a lot less in the moment, much more future based, which means that you have to say no often, which doesn't really get said now.
Speaker B:It's not a problem for me.
Speaker B:My wife is great.
Speaker B:However, even in this situation personally, it would just be vastly different if I wasn't necessarily chasing that, those endorphins for that approval.
Speaker B:So for me that's kind of what it is because at most like about two weeks prior to me saying it, he was saying, he said it a different way.
Speaker B:But it's just like if, basically if men spent more time saying no, we're having different conversations because a lot of things women do to get you to do whatever they want you to do, even this is not being a woman being like malicious, like hunting.
Speaker B:That's not what I'm really saying.
Speaker B:But it's just like if you don't respond to her emotions and you completely respond logically, your life is going to be so, so much different.
Speaker B:In fact, you might not even be with a woman anymore.
Speaker B:You might just stay single because then you don't have to deal with any emotion at all.
Speaker B:So when you stop chasing her approval and you stop chasing that stuff, things, things get different.
Speaker B:That's when, that's when sex does become a birthday gift to a woman because you tell her no as much as she tells you.
Speaker B:It's like, no, I'm good, or you don't, you don't really care.
Speaker B:And she doesn't have that as a weapon anymore because a woman that gets told no or gets like she's in that situation where her, her body is of no consequence, it's a different vibe altogether.
Speaker B:So that would say, I would say that was that.
Speaker B:For me, that is the biggest emotion for me.
Speaker B:And I don't even know if chasing approval is an emotion.
Speaker B:I just know that that act is apparent to me.
Speaker A:Yeah, I was, you know, because I was thinking about that, and everything makes sense.
Speaker A:So I guess to bring it down maybe a level 2.
Speaker A:Are we talking a little bit more about anxiety and making sure that, you know, you're focused on getting the approval from your significant other?
Speaker B:It's a byproduct.
Speaker B:Anxiety is a byproduct.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's definitely.
Speaker B:It weighs.
Speaker B:It can weigh on you just like.
Speaker B:Just like it weighs on you to tell a woman.
Speaker B:No, there's a.
Speaker B:It's the same type of thing when a fat person can't eat cake.
Speaker B:It's something to be taken seriously because there is a physical expression in that anxiety.
Speaker B:Not to eat that cake.
Speaker B:Like to tell my wife.
Speaker B:No, again, I'm just saying, because my wife isn't like that.
Speaker B:That person I'm describing.
Speaker B:However, when you know you can't do something because you're looking to do something else for her benefit, it's a reaction to.
Speaker B:It's weighty.
Speaker B:It feels like something.
Speaker B:I ain't just saying no.
Speaker B:And it's like, it's all good to me, you know?
Speaker B:So, like, when she was sick, there are certain things that she wanted to do, and I was just like, no, we're not doing that.
Speaker B:We're just not.
Speaker B:Have a seat.
Speaker B:And to talk to her like, that was like.
Speaker B:I had to get used to that.
Speaker B:I had to get used to it because in the moment, she's not happy with me right now, but she's not happy with the situation.
Speaker B:You know, a few hours pass, and she's okay, because she understands what, you know, what I'm talking about.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But in the moment, it's.
Speaker B:It's a little tight, you know, to do that, and it's not easy for me to do.
Speaker B:If it was easy for me to do it just it, you know, I was like, whatever.
Speaker B:You'll be all right.
Speaker B:Deuces, whatever.
Speaker B:But being that, you know, men have emotions, too.
Speaker B:You have to.
Speaker B:It's a deliberate act.
Speaker B:You have to be prepared, and you have to understand what's going to happen and all the things.
Speaker B:So anxiety is a byproduct of what I'm saying.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:All right, Moby.
Speaker C:When I initially saw this question,.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker C:First response was, no emotion should control a man, because I.
Speaker C:And that's not even like in the.
Speaker C:The stereotypical male should always be logical thing.
Speaker C:It's just.
Speaker C:I've kind of been programmed in my upbringing and everything to think that any, any male who, first of all, any male who expresses emotions is almost a superhero.
Speaker C:Because it's like for a long time I didn't even know that was allowed.
Speaker C:And then second of all, then I start to look down on somebody who makes decisions or does anything based on emotions.
Speaker C:But when I dove deeper into it, I was like, you know what I think really drives?
Speaker C:And this doesn't drive.
Speaker C:This doesn't drive.
Speaker C:So this doesn't drive like the men that I guess nobody would really want to be bothered with.
Speaker C:But I think the single thing that drives most good men is guilt.
Speaker C:I think guilt is almost the most motivating factor that any solid to decent man dictates most of their actions based on guilt.
Speaker C:And that's.
Speaker C:And you can look at that however you want.
Speaker C:I'm not saying that it means that somebody is maliciously trying to make you feel guilty as a.
Speaker C:Manipulation tactics like.
Speaker C:No, it's just as a guy, we aren't generally given excuses for failure not accomplishing something.
Speaker C:All of those things are guilt.
Speaker C:Like if you're broke, if you did, if, if you're in an impoverished situation, you're guilty because you did that.
Speaker C:You're the guy.
Speaker C:You're supposed to make sure that nothing like this happens.
Speaker C:If somebody in your life is going through something and they need help and you can't do it, guilt.
Speaker C:Guilt will make you figure out and manipulate things that you don't even really have a reason to do just to make somebody else appease somebody else.
Speaker C:Because you feel guilty.
Speaker C:Because that is an assignment that you have placed on yourself, whether it's an actual assignment you should be taking on or not.
Speaker C:But I think there's almost no greater motivating factor that good to decent men have than guilt.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:When I, when I came up with a question, you know, I thought about, I took it internally because I look at myself sometimes and I.
Speaker A:And I wonder, it's like, well, what motivates me?
Speaker A:But I also, I can also stand, sit here and advise that what motivates me does not motivate other men.
Speaker A:Just because I know that I am, I'm one of one and you know, I'm acquired taste and all that beautiful stuff.
Speaker A:I say, I say this like what drives me is hope.
Speaker A:And I think that, you know, being a, being an eternal optimist is a gift and a curse.
Speaker A:100 Right.
Speaker A:Because even though signs point to not a good idea, there are times where I still feel like we gonna make this happen even Though, you know, you look in the sky, there's a tornado coming your way.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:We're gonna be okay.
Speaker A:You know, so it's like.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:Yeah, for me, it's a lot of hope.
Speaker A:And I can only say that because of.
Speaker A:As far as, like, my experiences in life and things of that such.
Speaker A:Because I do feel like hope has taken me through a lot.
Speaker A:You know, the hope that I'm gonna come out the other side better than I was before.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, you know, y' all have known me for a very long time.
Speaker A:And, you know, we've even said on the show, you know, Reuben, your positivity baffles me.
Speaker A:And I mean, you know, sometimes it baffles me, too.
Speaker A:But what's the alternative, right?
Speaker A:I could be.
Speaker A:If I'm not hopeful, then I'm a sad, blubbering mess.
Speaker A:And, you know, that's not good for anything, anybody or whatever.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker C:I don't know why this is just hilarious to be like, what, you're hopeful hating ass.
Speaker C:How are you hopeful and a hater at the same time?
Speaker C:I just thought about how great of a juxtaposition that is.
Speaker C:Like, you are the cause.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker C:It's true.
Speaker C:But the thing is, it's.
Speaker C:Anything about you is hopeful.
Speaker C:Anything about everybody else can get the hate, which is like.
Speaker C:It's like, hate.
Speaker C:Hate is your shield.
Speaker C:Hope is your sword.
Speaker C:Or could be the other way around.
Speaker A:Look, man, I've said numerous times that I am an acquired taste.
Speaker A:And that's on.
Speaker A:That's on purpose.
Speaker A:But this.
Speaker C:This wasn't even being critical.
Speaker C:I just thought.
Speaker C:No, you're saying how hopeful, positive you are.
Speaker C:And I'm just thinking at the same time, we've also had whole episodes where we're basically just talking about how amazing it is that you can hate the most positive things.
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker C:I love Hope and positive thinking.
Speaker C:Your puppies.
Speaker A:Look, man, I mean, I. I wish I understood to, too, but, like, I.
Speaker A:But I think it's more or less because I'm hopeful for myself, like, in people and things around me.
Speaker A:And I think I, you know, stuff that is.
Speaker A:That has absolutely nothing to hopefully affect my life.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's just.
Speaker A:I guess that's how I separate it because I never really.
Speaker A:Like, I can honestly say I don't hate on.
Speaker A:I don't hate on positive people in my life, but if you're not in my life, you up for grabs.
Speaker A:And it's just.
Speaker A:That's good, bad, and different.
Speaker A:But if anything, I also feel that Makes me possibly one of the realest dudes y' all will ever know.
Speaker A:Because, hey, man, you're gonna get the positive and the negative, you know, about me depending on.
Speaker A:Not even depending on the situation.
Speaker A:It is what it is.
Speaker A:Like, like, yeah, I'm full attack.
Speaker A:And I can be tactful by a lot of things, you know, because the jobs that I've had have helped me with that.
Speaker A:But, man, just because I'm.
Speaker A:Just because sometimes out of my mouth, I come out tactful.
Speaker A:What's in here, buddy?
Speaker A:That's the real truth.
Speaker A:And sometimes, you know, I. I intentionally take the guard.
Speaker A:The guardrails off.
Speaker A:Like on the show.
Speaker A:I pretty much take the guardrails off on certain things because, like, for instance, this weekend, like, sir, hold on, hold on.
Speaker C:I have a cap I'd like to let you borrow.
Speaker C:Because what that statement was, was complete cap, take the guardrails off.
Speaker C:You're the safest motherfucker on this show, bro.
Speaker C:Take the guard ag.
Speaker C:You heard it too.
Speaker B:He said, I know you saw my face, right?
Speaker B:I know you saw my face.
Speaker B:So you don't even have to say that, Mo.
Speaker B:I know you saw my face.
Speaker B:Hey, we've gone back and forth about this for six years, and you still think you're somebody you're not.
Speaker B:Are you freaking serious right now?
Speaker C:Yeah, man.
Speaker C:Self aware.
Speaker B:Why are you out here lying in these streets, man?
Speaker A:I'm not lying in the streets.
Speaker A:On the show, it's different than what I'm not.
Speaker C:What did you just say?
Speaker B:He was being about himself.
Speaker C:That's what he hopes to come portray.
Speaker C:Ag.
Speaker C:He hopes, he portrays, like, fearlessness and, like, being completely vulnerable up here, but what actually happens is just hate,.
Speaker A:Hate,.
Speaker C:Hate as a weapon, and then making sure that you.
Speaker C:I. I've been saying before, man, you missed your calling.
Speaker C:You should have been in politics, cuz nobody, Nobody stays on the fence quite like you, sir.
Speaker C:Like, we.
Speaker C:You just proved it.
Speaker C:Like, with the whole Washington Commander Spear thing.
Speaker C:Like, you was like, you know what?
Speaker C:I'mma stay right on this fence.
Speaker C:Gonna.
Speaker C:I'm gonna make sure that the.
Speaker C:The racist people that just want the name to be the Redskins again.
Speaker C:I make sure I don't alienate them too much, but I'll make sure the people that really have a problem with it don't think I'm one of those people.
Speaker C:I'm just gonna stay right here.
Speaker C:I'm just gonna say, can we not talk about it?
Speaker C:Oh, man, it's so divisive.
Speaker C:I really wish we could be unifying in Something like rug.
Speaker C:Miss me with that whole.
Speaker A:Hey man,.
Speaker C:Let the guard rails down.
Speaker A:I. I am a straight answer C guy.
Speaker A:I've always been that.
Speaker A:The answer's always been C for me because I. I just.
Speaker A:There's something you.
Speaker C:That's not what you said.
Speaker C:You said I let the guard rails down up here.
Speaker C:And I'm trying to figure out what guardrails have you.
Speaker B:I thought he had a whole nother show.
Speaker B:He ain't tell us.
Speaker C:Yeah, but you got wrong.
Speaker C:He do a secret podcast.
Speaker B:Reuben, literally in the 318 shows, not including this one.
Speaker B:318 Shows that we have done.
Speaker B:I can count on my one hand and have change left over the times you have actually been vulnerable on this show.
Speaker B:No, don't think about it.
Speaker B:Don't think.
Speaker B:Because you're gonna come up with an inflated answer.
Speaker C:I approve that message.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker C:I approved it.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker C:Not saying it's never happened, but I mean it snowed one time in Florida.
Speaker C:That's pretty much the equivalence of it.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:I'm telling you, man, I still have fingers left over.
Speaker B:Sir.
Speaker A:I mean, you could say that and.
Speaker B:And I'd be correct.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna say you'd be correct,.
Speaker B:But I know you're not.
Speaker B:You already been lying about it.
Speaker C:Anybody who listened to like most of the episodes would agree.
Speaker C:And it's okay if you don't agree.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:Hey, you know what?
Speaker C:It's your story.
Speaker C:You tell it how the you want to.
Speaker C:Sir, who are we to get in the way of.
Speaker C:With truth and logic.
Speaker A:Truth and logic.
Speaker A:Hilarious.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:Nah, I've been very real as far as about things that, you know, that's on my mind.
Speaker C:Never said you weren't real.
Speaker C:We just said you didn't let the guard rails down.
Speaker C:Cuz that's a characteristic of yours.
Speaker A:I don't know, man.
Speaker A:Rails.
Speaker A:I have let down.
Speaker C:And we didn't say you never did.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I mean, I mean, Morris Chestnut always comes into play.
Speaker B:That guy, you know, that's not letting the guard.
Speaker C:It's not vulnerable.
Speaker C:That's hate.
Speaker C:You're very consistent with hate.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Nobody argued the hate thing.
Speaker C:We didn't even argue the hopeful thing.
Speaker C:We simply said the whole guard rails thing down.
Speaker A:See, like Nikki says, that's not what's actually happened.
Speaker A:And Nick says C is the safest option.
Speaker A:Option.
Speaker A:And she's not wrong there.
Speaker A:And sometimes.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker C:With that logic, yes, you are.
Speaker C:See, all the time, not all the time.
Speaker C:Once in a while you hit all the above.
Speaker C:Like, you know, so every once in a while, you'll be like, hey, all the above might be the.
Speaker A:I don't know, man.
Speaker A:I'm not really all the above guy.
Speaker A:I'm really not.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm really like, you know, a.
Speaker A:B.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:We still got CF there.
Speaker A:And I'll make up a C for me.
Speaker A:I mean, so you a.
Speaker C:You out here answering C on true and false questions.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:That's you right there, sir.
Speaker A:That's me.
Speaker B:Thank you for saying that, sir.
Speaker B:Thank you for saying I. I appreciate that so much.
Speaker B:I, I.
Speaker B:Because you, you help me not waste words.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:But I mean, I think we've known that.
Speaker B:We have known that.
Speaker B:That's why we're here.
Speaker C:We have known that.
Speaker C:Obviously, you don't.
Speaker C:Based on your fre.
Speaker B:You realize you real.
Speaker B:What you've just said more than you have actually been vulnerable.
Speaker B:You constantly say a lot of things about your role on this show that are untrue.
Speaker B:Then you've actually been vulnerable.
Speaker B:I told you, there is, like, three situations.
Speaker B:I can think off the top of my head that you, like, uncorked who you actually are at a deeper level.
Speaker B:And so I'm like.
Speaker B:To hear you say this constantly because it's a pattern.
Speaker B:It's like, good gravy.
Speaker A:Are you.
Speaker A:But I've talked a lot about my personal life life and have been very, very open multiple times.
Speaker A:I mean, am I wrong there?
Speaker B:You're right, sir.
Speaker A:No, I'm just.
Speaker A:I'm being serious.
Speaker B:No, because I'm not.
Speaker B:I'm not doing this, man.
Speaker B:It's like, you.
Speaker B:If this is what you think, then okay.
Speaker B:But, you know, it's okay.
Speaker B:And you're right.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I think, I think, Reuben, you're mistaken.
Speaker C:Like, being.
Speaker C:Being honest about certain events in your life is the same thing as being, like, vulnerable about them.
Speaker C:And they're not.
Speaker C:They're not the same thing.
Speaker C:And the thing is, it might feel like that to you, which is why we're like, no, man, you still play it pretty safe.
Speaker C:But I get it.
Speaker C:Like, if you play it safe all the time, you know, running that yellow light might feel dangerous to you.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker A:I can't.
Speaker B:I can't tell you how funny that.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:That was hilarious.
Speaker B:Now every time I look at a traffic light, I'm gonna start laughing.
Speaker A:I ran some yellow lights today, man.
Speaker A:Felt pretty accomplished.
Speaker A:But, hey, but for me, it's hopeful.
Speaker A:I'm very hopeful about me?
Speaker A:About Stuff in my life and stuff.
Speaker C:You're just.
Speaker C:You're a really hopeful person.
Speaker C:Anyway, it is just an interesting juxtaposition that you're also the greatest hater I've ever met in my life, too.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker C:That's actually amazing that you can pull both off.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:Thanks, Nikki.
Speaker B:I think she's Nicky.
Speaker B:She's coming for you, sir.
Speaker A:I see that.
Speaker B:Holy cow.
Speaker B:I mean, I think everybody sees it but you.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, that is a.
Speaker C:Very awesome comment right there.
Speaker B:It really is.
Speaker B:You know, it really is.
Speaker A:Holy cow.
Speaker A:You know, and the cool thing about that, that.
Speaker A:That shows that, you know, people be paying attention when they listen to the show.
Speaker A:So that's awesome.
Speaker A:No issue there.
Speaker A:But, yeah, so that.
Speaker A:That's my thing on that.
Speaker A:Anybody else got any extra comments on the.
Speaker A:On this question?
Speaker B:Well, actually, honestly, I wasn't really clear on how hopefully drives you.
Speaker B:I don't think.
Speaker B:I don't think you.
Speaker B:I don't know if you explained it or not.
Speaker B:So, like, with respect, so say you got your girl or whatever it is.
Speaker B:How.
Speaker B:How does hopeful drive you to be better?
Speaker B:And when I say better, I mean fundamentally improve who you are as a person, because there's no way in the world that you can go through a relationship and.
Speaker B:And hope and not hope, but go through a relationship and have it succeed if you're the same person that you were.
Speaker B:So how does hope drive you to be improved as a person?
Speaker B:Because a lot of things that you put out on the show is about, I ain't chasing for Jack.
Speaker B:She gonna be okay.
Speaker B:How do you change that?
Speaker B:How does hope drive you to change that?
Speaker C:So, aj, I think hope is, like.
Speaker C:He's hoping that somebody will come into his life that doesn't ask him to change anything.
Speaker B:To be fair.
Speaker B:Let him answer.
Speaker B:But that was funny.
Speaker A:I mean, so, I mean, as far as the question goes, the question is not the relationship part.
Speaker A:You know, the question is about what emotion controls people the most.
Speaker A:But to answer your question, I mean,.
Speaker B:Like, okay, well, how does that drive you to be.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:Whatever you think the question was about?
Speaker B:How do you.
Speaker B:How does hope play into it, is what I'm asking.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm very hopeful about things working out, you know, me doing something correctly, you know, not making too many mistakes.
Speaker A:Because, you know, I don't think I'm necessarily a perfect person by any means, but, you know, I want to make as many positive moves as possible, you know, and I hope that I have the I have the wherewithal to do that.
Speaker A:Like, I've been on the planet for a minute.
Speaker A:I mean, but we all make mistakes.
Speaker A:I just hope I make as little as possible, you know, But I've also been through a lot of things myself.
Speaker A:So it's just like, you know, between the.
Speaker A:Hope is a very positive emotion, and it's just like, I feel like for me, I need to stay positive in order to get to where I want to be and to get what I want.
Speaker A:So, like, as far as, you know, I would love to be in a relationship with a young lady you know, one day.
Speaker A:However, you know, I also understand is that I'm not a perfect person, but I hope that I will find somebody who will, you know, love me for me.
Speaker A:Now, as far as the whole not changing thing, I mean, yeah, there are certain things in life that I don't feel like anybody should necessarily change for somebody, but I hope that I would find somebody that will at least make me want to be better.
Speaker A:Because in my opinion, if that person doesn't, does it make me want to be better for them or at least better for myself, then why am I with them?
Speaker A:Like, I don't necessarily want to.
Speaker A:What's the terminology I want to use?
Speaker A:I love growth, and I've done a lot of growing since I turned 30.
Speaker A:Like, even though, you know, Late bloomer.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'll take that.
Speaker A:But, like, yeah, there's a lot I've learned because of being older and stuff like that.
Speaker A:I can only hope to.
Speaker A:To be a better person every day.
Speaker A:But, you know, as far as a relationship goes, you know, I.
Speaker A:My biggest thing is I don't have a problem and being better for myself, which will make me better for someone else.
Speaker A:Like, on a personal level now.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Do I have my.
Speaker A:What are they called?
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:My no checks?
Speaker C:Yes, your deal breaker.
Speaker A:My deal breakers.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I got deal breakers all day, you know, and I've spoken on many of them here.
Speaker A:And, you know, and sometimes I get challenged on my deal breakers.
Speaker A:But, you know, in the grand scheme of things, if she's worth it, then that will determine how.
Speaker A:How big of a deal breaker it is.
Speaker A:But, yeah, like the dog thing, bro, that.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's a big one.
Speaker A:Like, because I think it's.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I hate dogs for me, I don't hate dogs for other people.
Speaker A:However, you know, I'm just.
Speaker A:I'm not a dog person.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker A:But if that's a.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:And that's the problem, Right.
Speaker A:Because like you said, newer times 480.
Speaker A:Well, what if she's smoking.
Speaker A:Smoking hot and she's everything you want, but she has a dog?
Speaker A:Then she's not everything I want because she has a dog.
Speaker B:Fair enough.
Speaker B:Fair enough.
Speaker A:You know, yeah.
Speaker A:If that's.
Speaker A:If that's.
Speaker A:And sometimes if that's the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The bridge, I'm gonna stand on that.
Speaker A:It is, like, it sucks for somebody.
Speaker A:I mean, that could be me, but, you know, if you don't.
Speaker A:What is it?
Speaker A:If you don't have.
Speaker A:Nah, it's not.
Speaker B:What if you don't start for something, you'll.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And I mean, yeah, that may be total little on the total fold for some people, but for me, everything matters.
Speaker A:Especially at this point of my life, everything does matter, because I feel like everything is.
Speaker A:Every moment is super important, and I want to spend my life with the person I want to spend my life with and enjoy that time.
Speaker A:I don't want to have to necessarily deal with things I don't want to deal with, you know, and hopefully one day I'll find somebody who feels similar to that.
Speaker A:And if I do, great.
Speaker A:If I don't.
Speaker A:There are a whole bunch of people out here who are not married.
Speaker A:There are a whole bunch of single people out here here for.
Speaker A:For other reasons.
Speaker A:You know, if I fall in that category for my life, then I fall for that category of my life, you know?
Speaker A:You know, that's.
Speaker A:For me, that's kind of how I feel.
Speaker A:Nikki, man, she's just spitting it out today.
Speaker A:Sometimes relationships are like houses.
Speaker A:You won't always find your dream home, but you will find one that meets the base requirements that you can build into your dream.
Speaker A:That's very true.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And I dream not to live with a dog.
Speaker A:And I know that sounds super petty and super small, but.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things I want to do that to me will require a dog.
Speaker A:Like, not to be able.
Speaker A:Like, I want to travel, man.
Speaker A:When I get older, I want to travel, like, and stuff like that.
Speaker A:I want to be able to just pick up and go.
Speaker A:And children are one thing and animals are another.
Speaker A:Like, it's hard to pick them and go when you have either.
Speaker A:Yes, Moby.
Speaker C:So I'd just like you to just be like, I don't like animals, period.
Speaker C:Don't.
Speaker C:Don't do the whole.
Speaker C:Because I want to be able to go because they got doggy daycare.
Speaker C:There's so many other ways to get.
Speaker A:Around that, but that's what I'M saying, right?
Speaker A:No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker C:Hey, man, I'm just saying, man, you spend too much time defending your thing, man.
Speaker C:Like you keep saying and trying to minimize.
Speaker C:I know it might seem petty, might seem small.
Speaker C:No, man, it seems like you don't like animals, and that's okay.
Speaker C:Boom.
Speaker C:Hard stop.
Speaker C:You don't need to say nothing else, man.
Speaker C:Ain't nobody trying to make you feel bad about that.
Speaker C:It's a funny joke.
Speaker B:Absolutely, it's a funny joke.
Speaker C:It's a funny joke to be like.
Speaker C:If the hottest chick had a dog beside her, you'd be like, you know what?
Speaker C:That it's funny.
Speaker A:Funny, but funny and sad at the same time.
Speaker B:Why is it sad?
Speaker B:If that's what you want, why does that say it looks like it's something.
Speaker B:It's a prudent decision.
Speaker A:Well, yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, I would hope I'm never put in that position.
Speaker B:I mean, but I'm trying to say, why do you feel like.
Speaker B:Why do you want to label it like it's sad?
Speaker A:Well, I mean, because when it's all said and done, like, you can make decisions that could 1% help you, right?
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But, yeah, it's just a thing.
Speaker A:And, you know, I don't know, because you always feel like you're missing out on something.
Speaker A:At least I do, because I miss out on a lot, you know, so it's like, oh, Brumman, if you weren't this, you know, yada, yada, yada.
Speaker A:And, you know, and that's really.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's kind of an issue for especially single people like myself.
Speaker A:Like, it's.
Speaker A:You know, why don't you lower your bar a little bit just to possibly be happy?
Speaker A:But I also feel like I shouldn't, you know, but I could miss out on something great because I chose not to lower my bar.
Speaker A:And honestly, some people lower their bar, and that's fine with them.
Speaker A:I'm just not.
Speaker A:I. I don't think I can be one of them because I've worked lowering your bar.
Speaker C:Bar like some.
Speaker C:Something that you hardline don't like.
Speaker C:That's not a lowering of your bar.
Speaker A:Well, no, you're right.
Speaker A:But that's what people say, right?
Speaker A:That's what people say when they want to judge you because you're not doing something that they think is easy, simple, or appropriate for them.
Speaker A:Like, you know, so this is what.
Speaker C:This is what I mean when I say guardrails and playing it safe.
Speaker C:It's like you.
Speaker C:You keep.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker C:You're Trying to say something and then protect it from judgment.
Speaker C:That means you're not putting your guardrails down.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, man, it's okay to just be like, man, them dogs.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I don't want.
Speaker C:I don't want a dog in my life.
Speaker C:I don't want no dog, no cat, no rabbit, no turtle.
Speaker C:If you got anything that you call a pet, I ain't with it.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker C:And boom.
Speaker C:And just drop the mic on that.
Speaker B:Ruben and I.
Speaker A:And I understand that.
Speaker A:However, I'm also still human, and I don't like being judged.
Speaker C:And that's what we need by the car.
Speaker A:I mean, look, when it's all said done, man, it's like we all have.
Speaker A:We all have feelings and stuff like that.
Speaker A:I'm not an.
Speaker A:Because of how I feel, but other people can treat you like one because of how you feel.
Speaker A:And sometimes you're.
Speaker A:Yeah, sometimes I just rather not be involved.
Speaker A:And that's why the answer is c. Sometimes for me.
Speaker C:You understand what I'm saying, though, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But ironically enough, this is the vulnerability that I love that you do right now.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:This is like the fourth time now, because you've actually.
Speaker B:More than four times, man.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:If that's what you're thinking, great.
Speaker B:But in my world, which, if we're playing by your rules, I get to say say this four times.
Speaker B:So, ironically enough, this is a vulnerability that you lack on this show.
Speaker B:Not in real life, but on this show.
Speaker B:So I think all of this is funny.
Speaker B:But no, that's.
Speaker B:That what Mo saying is the reason I ask you, why are you labeling it as sad?
Speaker B:It's like, that is your hard line.
Speaker B:It's not sad.
Speaker B:It is what it is.
Speaker B:It is what it is.
Speaker B:Because there are certain things that I had in mind that I was going to, you know, and it's like, whatever.
Speaker B:I mean, if people judge you behind, you don't.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:I mean, it's funny, man.
Speaker B:With the way you express it is hilarious.
Speaker B:However, if you.
Speaker B:If you feel that way, you feel that way.
Speaker B:So whatever.
Speaker B:Don't.
Speaker B:Don't say it's sad.
Speaker B:I mean, if she's a smoke show and she's got a dog, she's not a smoke show.
Speaker B:Not to you.
Speaker B:Because there's a dog lover out there that's gonna say, whoa, that's my girl.
Speaker B:And you didn't lose out on anything, but he gained something.
Speaker B:Two things, to be sure.
Speaker B:The same.
Speaker A:Not.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm not.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I'm just.
Speaker A:I'm just.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:You know, it's so ironic.
Speaker A:Those who judge don't like to be judged.
Speaker A:And so that's always true.
Speaker C:How about say that's not ironic at all.
Speaker B:That's just truth.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, that's kind of a weakness that I got.
Speaker B:Kind of a weakness.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker A:I mean, he still can't do it.
Speaker C:A. I know he can't let it go, man.
Speaker A:Hey, man, Sometimes.
Speaker A:Sometimes, man, like, you can go.
Speaker A:You can go to the cliff.
Speaker A:That whole jumping ain't happening.
Speaker B:You got wings.
Speaker B:What's the difference, man?
Speaker A:You may have a wing, sir.
Speaker B:Everybody's got wings that just don't jump.
Speaker A:That's why I don't jump.
Speaker A:I look over, I'm good, and walk away.
Speaker A:Like, that's just what it is.
Speaker A:You know, Call it.
Speaker A:Call it what you want to call it.
Speaker A:But like, yeah, you know, because I don't have to jump.
Speaker A:And as long as I don't have to jump, I probably won't.
Speaker A:I mean, now sometimes you have to jump.
Speaker A:And it is what it is.
Speaker B:I. I love Mo's look right now.
Speaker A:He's like, I know, right?
Speaker C:You just keep extending it because it's like you're.
Speaker C:You're trying to talk your way out of a judgment that's not happening.
Speaker A:But that's.
Speaker A:But see, that's the thing, right?
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:And you still do.
Speaker A:No, no, I need.
Speaker A:But I guess my thing is, like, I feel like y' all don't understand how I feel.
Speaker A:So, like, is even though technically I'm sitting here and yes, you're saying you're not judging me, that's not necessarily how I feel.
Speaker A:I may feel that I'm being judged consistently.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker B:And I can understand how you would feel that way.
Speaker B:Absolutely understand.
Speaker A:Yeah, but I mean.
Speaker A:But that's the thing, right?
Speaker A:Like, it.
Speaker A:It almost really doesn't matter what.
Speaker A:I still going to feel judged.
Speaker A:So I choose to handle it in a way that usually gets me in more trouble.
Speaker A:Because you're right.
Speaker A:Sometimes I should just shut the up and move on.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:But I don't.
Speaker A:Because it's hard.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:That's hard, you know, And I'm not.
Speaker A:I'm not really.
Speaker A:And my.
Speaker A:My thing is I'm not trying to do whatever, but it's just hard sometimes it's hard to shut the up.
Speaker A:And I know that's a weakness.
Speaker A:Something.
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Speaker C:Well, I'm not gonna say that it's hard for you to shut the up.
Speaker C:I'm not even gonna say it's a weakness.
Speaker C:I'm gonna say the only time you've got vulnerable.
Speaker C:It's so obvious to me and Ag.
Speaker A:Because you do this when you get.
Speaker C:Vulnerable, you get uncomfortable and you try to over talk it, which is okay because once again, I totally get.
Speaker C:Because you're right.
Speaker C:Everybody has something that they don't like people to judge them on.
Speaker C:Once again, I'll go back to what I said.
Speaker C:The motivating feeling is guilt.
Speaker C:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's a.
Speaker C:It's anxiety you have about it, so you try to over talk it.
Speaker C:I'm simply not.
Speaker C:I'm talking to you more as, like, somebody who's around you all the time.
Speaker C:Like, I get it.
Speaker C:You're like, I feel like I'm being judged and I'm like, oh, man, at this point in time, I. I know who you are, and I'm okay with it.
Speaker C:I get it.
Speaker C:You don't.
Speaker C:You may be over talking for the judgment of the world who might be listening to this podcast, but I'm.
Speaker C:I'm trying to, like, encourage you to be like, hey, right now, it's just me and Ag right now, man.
Speaker C:And like, the three people who might stumble upon this podcast later on.
Speaker C:Hey, man, that dude really doesn't like animals.
Speaker C:And I'm.
Speaker C:I promise you that's kind of all they're gonna say.
Speaker C:Man, that dude really hates animals.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, you'll definitely get.
Speaker A:I hate a lot of things that if you listen to the show, you run into it, you'll find out but like, you know, like, goes back to AG when he says, you know, you've only been vulnerable, like four times.
Speaker A:I over talk a lot on this show and usually that's when I'm.
Speaker A:I'm really vulnerable because I feel like I'm in a situation I can't get out of.
Speaker A:And so the only thing I know is, dude, almost overdo it.
Speaker A:Like, I know it sounds crazy, but.
Speaker A:Yeah, like right now, this conversation ended 15 minutes ago, but I'm still talking about.
Speaker A:Because I can't find a stopping point for me that'll make me feel good.
Speaker B:You're not supposed to feel good.
Speaker B:It is what it is.
Speaker A:Hey, man, I understand that.
Speaker A:And that's a problem.
Speaker A:Like, okay, that's.
Speaker A:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, and it sucks.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker C:Well, I'm going to tell you this, Reuben.
Speaker C:I appreciate you sharing and opening up and being vulnerable in this moment.
Speaker A:Absolutely appreciate it.
Speaker B:Because it's something that usually doesn't happen.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:I mean, and honestly, you know, you're not really.
Speaker B:It's so funny because you think that you're hiding, but you're in plain sight, sir.
Speaker B:People know.
Speaker B:I realize that people that listen to this show one time or a hundred times, they know who you are.
Speaker A:I know it was scary.
Speaker B:And you're trying to hide from something that's already in plain sight.
Speaker B:I'm like, really?
Speaker C:We got labels, man.
Speaker C:We all got labels, man.
Speaker C:Like, AG is the Republican loving.
Speaker A:Can't.
Speaker C:Come to the cookout person.
Speaker C:I am the resident sexist.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:We all got a label.
Speaker C:Whether it's true or not, we got a label.
Speaker C:That's your label, man.
Speaker A:I mean, I've been called worse, so.
Speaker C:So have I.
Speaker B:Nah.
Speaker A:You know, it's interesting, right, because we've done 300 some episodes and I. I don't know, man.
Speaker A:It's like, like, don't get it twisted.
Speaker A:There are people who are listening to the show that, I don't know, like, my family.
Speaker A:Family listen to this show scary enough when they want to.
Speaker A:So it's always like.
Speaker A:And when I say my family, I'm talking about like.
Speaker A:Like my mom listens to the show.
Speaker A:She might listen to it live, but she may listen to it later because, you know, she has the book of faces and we up there.
Speaker A:So, like, yeah, like, you know, so I don't know.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:There are times where I don't think I'm sharing anything that isn't already out there.
Speaker A:But then I did.
Speaker A:I realized I Do share some things that I probably shouldn't.
Speaker A:So I don't know.
Speaker B:What shouldn't you be?
Speaker C:I'm trying to figure out what you shouldn't share.
Speaker A:I don't know, man.
Speaker A:I'm so.
Speaker A:I'm used to being, like.
Speaker A:So, like.
Speaker A:I mean, for everybody out there, like, in real life.
Speaker A:In real life.
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker A:Like, outside the show, I'm really a private person.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Like, I leave my windows closed.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:Like, you can't see it in my house.
Speaker A:Like, I don't talk a lot about my personal life except for a few, like, close people.
Speaker A:So, like, yeah, it's just.
Speaker A:It's weird, but it's like, I probably talk more about my life on this show than I not do outside of the show, which is.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:Once again, as I say, quite a bit.
Speaker A:You know, this is like therapy to a point.
Speaker A:Even though there are times where I don't feel.
Speaker A:I don't feel like I should, I feel like I learned something from most episodes for me, like, you know, so.
Speaker B:No, I don't know.
Speaker B:Tell me.
Speaker A:No, like.
Speaker A:Like, it doesn't even matter.
Speaker A:What we talk about is almost like, just to have a platform to say some.
Speaker A:That I want to say that is growth for me because other than, like, some friends, you know, including y', all, like, there's a whole bunch.
Speaker A:There's a whole bunch of stuff that I don't really ever talk about, but I talk more about it here, and I can give my opinion on it.
Speaker A:Because as crazy as it is, this is a safe.
Speaker A:This is a safe space because I'm never running for office for anything, so I don't ever plan on this being used against me in a public form.
Speaker A:But, like, yeah, like, this is, like, a safe place or that I don't.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:Like, other than, like, my house, I'm being by myself because, you know, answering yourself is a problem.
Speaker A:Whereas, you know, I can.
Speaker A:I can say some things like, yeah, man, I hate people.
Speaker A:I hate shitty drivers.
Speaker A:Like, you have no idea how much I hate shitty drivers.
Speaker A:But every time on the show, I talk about horrible drivers more than I talk about anything else on this day show.
Speaker A:And it's an outlet, and I feel like everybody needs some sort of outlet, and this is it for me.
Speaker A:Like, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm happy, you know?
Speaker A:Like, everybody knows that I hate dogs.
Speaker A:Everybody knows that I wish I could eat peeps, but I can't.
Speaker A:And I'm just determined that everybody would know.
Speaker A:About, about the peeps thing, because I can't eat it.
Speaker A:So it's almost like a small punishment to me.
Speaker A:But, you know, I would love everybody else to enjoy it, you know, and that's why I talk about it every.
Speaker A:Every Easter.
Speaker A:Go buy some damn peeps, because I wish I could, you know.
Speaker A:You know, there have been times I've talked about past relationships, and I, you know, protect the names to, you know, I don't say the names.
Speaker A:Protect the innocent.
Speaker A:And that's fair.
Speaker A:And it's just stuff like that.
Speaker A:So, like, yeah, I mean, I may never meet Nikki, like, ever.
Speaker A:I mean, some of these people who talk to us, I may never meet.
Speaker A:But you know what?
Speaker A:The fact that they spend the time to type in what they want to type in, and, you know, they listen and laugh and, you know, they give up their time to listen.
Speaker A:I appreciate that because for God's sake, there's a whole bunch of other that they could be paying attention to.
Speaker A:And, you know, what's it called?
Speaker A:Not Facebook, but I can't even think of the name of it right now.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Instagram.
Speaker A:Like, Instagram.
Speaker A:And yeah, there's a lot of dumb up there, as y' all probably saw this weekend.
Speaker A:Like, I feel like I, I, I feel so bad for them because when I get into a tik tok thing, our form that we talk on, they just.
Speaker A:It's never like one or two.
Speaker A:It's like six to 10.
Speaker A:And Moby is like, you have terrible group chat.
Speaker C:You're not supposed to bomb with 16 different videos, man.
Speaker C:You gotta space them out a little bit, man.
Speaker B:I twist.
Speaker C:Because once I see, like, Once I see like, three or four videos unseen, I'm just like, nope, I'm not trying to catch up.
Speaker C:I'm out.
Speaker C:I do.
Speaker C:I treat it just like I treat streaming shows, man.
Speaker C:Like, I miss, I miss a season, I'd be like, I'm out.
Speaker C:I can't catch up.
Speaker C:I'm good.
Speaker C:I'm a quitter.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:You're a quitter.
Speaker B:Because I was about to say, hey, man, just one episode at a time, baby.
Speaker A:You got it.
Speaker A:Like, and the thing about that is, like, I know y', all, you know, the people listen, and you're just like, what the.
Speaker A:Yeah, whatever.
Speaker A:But, like, yo, man, I appreciate the fact that sometimes Ag doesn't, Doesn't hit on all of them, but, man, when it's funny, he lets me know the was funny, and I appreciate it.
Speaker A:And Moby just doesn't have tick tock, so like, maybe he finds it on Instagram or he just goes.
Speaker A:I don't know how he sees it.
Speaker B:And that's so funny that you say that, because when I send you stuff, stuff, you never respond.
Speaker C:Never.
Speaker B:Not ever.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:So I respond because it's.
Speaker A:It's weird, right?
Speaker A:I go on my.
Speaker A:I'm laying in bed, it ain't to do, and I just find one thing on Tik Tok and it's over.
Speaker A:I do the same with y' all stuff.
Speaker A:Like, I just look at y' all stuff.
Speaker A:Some of the stuff I've seen before, some of the stuff is funny.
Speaker A:But yeah, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm a horrible, like, exchanger.
Speaker A:Like, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm terrible at it, you know, putting smiley faces.
Speaker A:I suck at it.
Speaker A:I'm the worst.
Speaker A:But, you know, if it's super funny, I definitely let you know.
Speaker C:Yeah, man, I need to get your emoji game up.
Speaker A:Yeah, my emoji is trash.
Speaker A:My emoji game is like Mobi's pull out game, apparently.
Speaker B:But they lay it out for you.
Speaker C:You know, if you don't acknowledge my video with an emoji, how can I ever feel so important in life?
Speaker A:Hey, man, if you don't have a picture.
Speaker C:Okay,.
Speaker A:Like, we'll move to our next chicken section.
Speaker A:Second in a second.
Speaker A:But I need to say this because I don't want to say I need to say this right now.
Speaker A:Everybody with the sea lion thing was funny when it was a small dude, and.
Speaker A:And you know, he has some issue.
Speaker A:He has some.
Speaker A:Some physical issues, and he did it.
Speaker A:It was up, but it was funny.
Speaker A:Okay, now we got, like, real people doing that and groups and teams doing that.
Speaker A:It's not funny anymore.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker C:I just need to know, was any of those seine clips funny to you?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Okay, good.
Speaker C:I. I'm cool with being an.
Speaker C:It's just like, yeah, I ain't find none of this funny.
Speaker A:Like, he sent me that to was.
Speaker C:Like, this ain't funny, man.
Speaker C:Like, do better.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I really wanted to do better, but I was like, nah, man.
Speaker C:See that judgment.
Speaker C:I ain't want to go through the judgment.
Speaker C:I was just like, nah, man.
Speaker C:I'm not my.
Speaker A:The first one was hilarious.
Speaker A:Now that real people are like real people, now other people are starting to do it.
Speaker A:It's not as funny.
Speaker A:It's almost, like, annoying, actually.
Speaker A:So I just skip past them now.
Speaker A:I'm like, I'm done.
Speaker A:I'm done with it.
Speaker A:It was fun with that one.
Speaker A:Get that one, Dude.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:When you got, like, teenagers doing it and they're all on top of a Damn.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The school tables, it's just.
Speaker A:You know when they say old people mess it up?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Groups of teens mess up, too, so I'll say that.
Speaker A:And with that being said, AG, what's on your mind?
Speaker B:62 Million dudes logged into how to rape a woman with website.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Oh, you didn't hear about that?
Speaker C:No.
Speaker B:Yeah, there was a website.
Speaker C:Here's the thing.
Speaker C:My first thought when you said that isn't, wow, 62 million.
Speaker C:My thought is, that's it.
Speaker A:No, that's not what I thought.
Speaker C:No, but.
Speaker C:And I don't mean that like, in a.
Speaker C:In a negative, facetious way.
Speaker C:It's just like, yo, somebody really put a how to out there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:There's a lot of rapes that be happening, so I feel like a lot of be watching.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker A:I'm just thinking, you need a book.
Speaker B:I mean, listen, man.
Speaker A:You need instructions.
Speaker A:I mean, what the fuck?
Speaker C:Would that not have been the greatest federal setup ever, though?
Speaker C:You put that shit up there and you just start logging IP addresses, like, yep, got one here.
Speaker C:Got one here.
Speaker A:How do you know it wasn't.
Speaker B:Listen, man, the only thing I'm saying was, when I caught wind of it, it was a couple days ago, I didn't know any of this was happening.
Speaker C:It's the first time I'm hearing this, man.
Speaker C:Oh, really?
Speaker B:Oh, this?
Speaker B:Yeah, it's been a thing for about a week because Lauren told me about it, and I was, like, listening, but apparently I wasn't.
Speaker B:So I'm on Instagram, and all these women are like, 62 million men logged in.
Speaker B:Well, I was like.
Speaker B:And then I thought about.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, my goodness.
Speaker C:However, forgive me, because I'm just like, yo, I've always thought, hey, man.
Speaker C:Saying ladies be getting out of.
Speaker C:Out of hand with saying that, like, all these men are dangerous.
Speaker C:That, ladies, we suck as men, we suck.
Speaker B:And that's crazy.
Speaker B:And that's what I wanted to say, because it's like, I feel just like most, like, come on, y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker B:But when you're a woman, you're in it.
Speaker B:I'm not a woman.
Speaker B:I'm not in it.
Speaker B:It's almost like how white people talk about black people in.
Speaker B:In.
Speaker B:What's the word?
Speaker B:Gaslighter.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's like, you can say that because you have the luxury to say it.
Speaker B:Like, I felt like the whole.
Speaker B:The Commander's thing, it's okay for Reuben to Feel the way he feels because he has.
Speaker B:He has the luxury to say it.
Speaker B:He's a black person.
Speaker B:He's not.
Speaker B:He's not Native American.
Speaker B:He has the luxury to feel that way.
Speaker B:Same thing here.
Speaker B:So I'm sitting here going, bruh.
Speaker B:Listen, ladies, if you choose the bear, I'm not even mad at you no more.
Speaker B:And that's what's on my mind, plain and simple.
Speaker C:62 Million.
Speaker C:Like, how and counting.
Speaker C:Probably, like, how large of a time frame was this?
Speaker C:62.
Speaker B:I'm not really sure, because I don't know.
Speaker B:When the site came up, how did it.
Speaker A:How did people know this existed?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker C:That's another thing like.
Speaker C:Like, how did that go viral so quick that one person, like, be like, yo, oh, let me hit all my other rapey buddies up and be like, you gotta watch this.
Speaker B:But see, the thing is, it doesn't take long, because once one.
Speaker B:No matter who they are, once one person discovers this that's, you know, appalled, they're gonna spread it.
Speaker B:And once it spreads, it spreads.
Speaker B:And now everybody.
Speaker B:Man, I'm telling you.
Speaker C:I'm sorry, ag.
Speaker C:I'm about to come off like an apologist here.
Speaker C:Like, and I don't mean this late.
Speaker C:Ladies be disgusted by this, but part of me is like, all right, 62 million.
Speaker C:Like, how large of a group of those men were really trying to get insight and how much of them were just like, this can't be real.
Speaker C:And you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker B:I hear what you're saying.
Speaker C:The thing is, I don't know what that number is.
Speaker C:So all I can go on is this.
Speaker C:62 Million trying to figure out how to rape a.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Like, I guess the other question is 60 million is a really big number.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker A:Where does that come from?
Speaker A:And what's counterfeited?
Speaker A:No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker C:Oh, it does.
Speaker C:Every time you go up there, probably, right?
Speaker B:This is like a counter on YouTube.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They tell you the stat.
Speaker B:That's the only real stat they tell you without going into going in deep with it.
Speaker B:You know how many plays you have or whatever it is.
Speaker B:Like, you look up stats for the show.
Speaker C:Same thing for the person on the show that gets called the sexist.
Speaker C:I would like ladies to just apologize because that is disgusting.
Speaker C:Because, like, even.
Speaker C:Even though I am curious as to, like, is this real?
Speaker C:I'm not gonna go log into that to find out.
Speaker C:Like, I'm just gonna be like, I hope this ain't I'm about to be Reuben right now.
Speaker C:I'm just gonna hope that this is all.
Speaker B:It's not.
Speaker B:I have heard that this from like I follow women.
Speaker C:Not that it's not an actual site that I'm hoping that they're not really going through like a checklist.
Speaker C:It's not like a, a actual like hey, try this and then try this.
Speaker B:Like I'm hoping it's not an actual.
Speaker C:Checklist guide on how to do it.
Speaker C:I'm never gonna find out.
Speaker B:Yeah, never gonna find out.
Speaker B:I presume that it's a checklist because it's basically how to rape someone 100.
Speaker B:I mean, I don't know.
Speaker B:I forgot the title.
Speaker B:There was one lady said the title of the.
Speaker B:The website but basically is how to rape a Woman.
Speaker A:Where did you hear about this?
Speaker B:I was going to tell you.
Speaker B:Well, okay, there's a couple of.
Speaker B:There's a woman that I follow on purpose that talks about de centering men.
Speaker B:Well, when you follow, obviously you know, when you follow one type of content creator, you get a whole lot of them just like them or her or him.
Speaker B:Him.
Speaker B:So it started with her and then I started thinking about what my wife had said just a couple days ago that I was listening, but I don't think I was listening closely enough.
Speaker B:Cuz maybe I just like blocked it out.
Speaker B:Like that can't be right.
Speaker B:So in the, in the days and the hour, the hours in the day following because I'm just scrolling and scrolling, scrolling.
Speaker B:I keep hearing this.
Speaker B:And it was like this one lady broke it all the way down.
Speaker B:She was like, it's 62 million views logins on a website on how to rape women.
Speaker B:I choose the bear.
Speaker B:And this is why.
Speaker B:And in that moment I was like, you know what?
Speaker B:I'm not even mad no more.
Speaker B:Because again, like I said, if you are not part of a group, and when I say part, I mean you're not part of it.
Speaker B:At the, at the basic level,.
Speaker A:There.
Speaker B:Are times where you don't get to have an opinion about certain things.
Speaker B:This is one of those things.
Speaker B:Look, man, if a woman says she chooses the bear, I'm not saying that there's not two sides to it.
Speaker B:But for now, forevermore, as far as I'm concerned, there is one side to this.
Speaker B:Take the bear.
Speaker B:Take the bear.
Speaker B:And so I'm like, there's nothing else to say.
Speaker B:When you're a woman, you're in it.
Speaker B:If we're talking about racial issues, if you're a black person, you're in it.
Speaker B:There are no more racial issues besides black and white, because black people are the most hated people ever.
Speaker B:If you're not black, you don't get to say much of anything because you have the luxury to walk away.
Speaker B:I do not.
Speaker B:If you're Native American, everybody else get.
Speaker B:Get to be quiet because those people are in it 24 7.
Speaker B:They have no choices.
Speaker B:They have to be in this world as this person.
Speaker B:So I'm like, in this particular case, because of what has apparently happened happen, the idea that 62 million people risked getting found out that they're on a how to rape a woman site and went anyway.
Speaker B:We're not talking about porn here.
Speaker B:We're not talking about that.
Speaker B:This is something different.
Speaker B:We're talking about stealing someone's soul at the basic level level, for whatever dumb reasons you think you can do that.
Speaker B:Because one of the things that I kept hearing the women say was they.
Speaker B:They out here teaching you what Bill Cosby's that you can do to make sure that she's compliant.
Speaker B:So what drugs you can do the dosage, how you can hide it, all the things that you need to know so you can get this done.
Speaker B:And I'm sitting here as a dude, I'm sitting here going, I can't defend this.
Speaker B:No matter who I am as a man, I'm still walking around here with a penis.
Speaker B:And because of that, I'm a grenade with no pen.
Speaker B:And I have to accept that.
Speaker B:But this, what I'm telling you, is not hyperbole, because it actually took place.
Speaker B:So that's why I wanted to say if.
Speaker B:If women collectively to a woman, either way, choose the bear.
Speaker B:I'm not even mad at you no more.
Speaker B:I'm not even gonna pretend like that's a dumb answer because apparently it's not.
Speaker B:Because from their perspective, exclusively, and their perspective in this particular moment is everybody's perspective, I feel like it should be.
Speaker B:We are a grenade with no pen.
Speaker B:So like I said, my wife told me, then Instagram told me one time, and then hours later, the Instagram Instagram telling me wouldn't stop.
Speaker B:It's a thing.
Speaker B:It's not gonna be that hard to find.
Speaker B:And this is 62 million at that moment.
Speaker B:I don't know how long this website's been up.
Speaker B:It could be 80 million by now.
Speaker B:Who knows?
Speaker B:But what I'm saying to you is the depravity, that the male depravity out there is real.
Speaker B:It's real.
Speaker B:So again, if you choose the bear, understood, that's what's on My mind.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Three things.
Speaker A:One, KPO says sounds like one of those Dateline trap shows.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:They used to get people.
Speaker A:That's is what it is.
Speaker A:Nikki says when I learned about this information, it didn't surprise me in the least.
Speaker A:Police.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:Because went through a.
Speaker A:A wife in court testifying how her husband had her sexually.
Speaker A:Had her sexually abused in her sleep.
Speaker C:Oh,.
Speaker A:Something else.
Speaker B:Bears don't do that.
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker A:And three, I mean you, you may be right AG.
Speaker A:They may have 80 million.
Speaker A:But you know whose IP address ain't gonna be up there?
Speaker B:Not ours.
Speaker A:This guy.
Speaker A:Guys, truth, all that.
Speaker A:I a, I don't want to know.
Speaker B:I mean I'm like, bro, are we serious right now?
Speaker A:You know, honestly, I'm probably going to forget after this show cuz I ain't about that.
Speaker B:Like cuz the next, the next level, the only.
Speaker B:There's only one next level is.
Speaker B:Is.
Speaker B:And I remember wanting to say this to my wife when she was telling me about it because the only, the only thing left to do is go back to like back in, back in the day for snuff films.
Speaker B:That's the only thing I have do to do.
Speaker B:And I'm not saying that they're not out there.
Speaker B:I'm saying to you that that's the only thing there's left.
Speaker B:Snuff films used to be a thing.
Speaker B:They probably got quiet, but I still think they're out there.
Speaker B:And man, it's it.
Speaker B:Only thing I'm saying is bears don't do these things, sir.
Speaker B:They just don't.
Speaker B:They do a lot of things, but nothing like that.
Speaker A:And Nikki said we're doing a good thing about speaking out against it most definitely.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:But the thing is, the other thing that I was helped to understand too, but the, and I appreciate her saying that, but the next level of it is we can't separate ourselves from the patriarchy that allows all this to be okay.
Speaker B:Because like I told you like two minutes ago, as long as you got a penis, you're part of the problem.
Speaker B:Even though you're not the problem.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker B:I feel like, I feel like a white abolitionist right now.
Speaker B:You know, I can't not be the problem.
Speaker B:But I'm trying.
Speaker B:But trying doesn't matter because of 62 million idiots in the world.
Speaker B:62 Million like broken evil people or 62 million people that have the way wrong curiosity.
Speaker B:Either way you slice it, those women can't not be women.
Speaker B:They are part of a group that is abused in a certain way and it's not going away.
Speaker B:Like I said before, I grew up in a time where snuff films were, are like the thing like you out, you out there making videos, killing women.
Speaker B:I mean, you get to the rape part first, sure, but the end of the day you're filming someone getting killed.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, so now we, that's the only, that's the only place we can go now.
Speaker B:Going back to making that vogue again.
Speaker B:And I'm like, bro, bears don't do these things, sir.
Speaker B:I completely, in the moment that I found all this out and I really put it together, together.
Speaker B:I understood the logic.
Speaker B:Yes, a bear will slap your face off, but he won't do this.
Speaker B:Yeah, he'll eat some salmon.
Speaker B:He might scare you a little bit.
Speaker B:Don't climb a tree, cuz it'll get you.
Speaker B:But he's not going to rape you.
Speaker B:He is not going to kill you.
Speaker B:He's not going to be thinking things that he can do to steal your soul from you.
Speaker B:So I'm just like, I totally get it.
Speaker B:Like I said, said, look, man, I'm not even mad.
Speaker B:Not even mad.
Speaker B:Not, not one little bit that these women need to get, you know, get a pet bear because it's, it's, it's dangerous out here.
Speaker B:And then some of the little things that we don't think about, like where you park your car if it's after dark, all that, all the regular stuff that men don't have to think about.
Speaker B:Bro, I understand the whole bear thing.
Speaker B:I honestly do.
Speaker B:So if Yogi and Boohoo are what you're doing, get that done.
Speaker B:I can't be mad at you for that because we're freaking scared.
Speaker B:I've never been in a situation in a room full of women and not understood if I was going to go home that night.
Speaker B:I just happened.
Speaker B:So think about that.
Speaker B:And again, we are part of a problem and you can't separate yourself from the problem.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:I don't know what to tell you as men, I don't know what to tell you, but we are part of the problem where we're.
Speaker B:Whether collectively, even if we're not part of the problem to a man, because to a woman, I mean, it's just dangerous, man.
Speaker B:It just is.
Speaker B:It just is.
Speaker B:So, yeah, choose the best one.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker A:And Nikki said, the more men that hold other men accountable.
Speaker B:Well, see, that's the thing that I did, I did have some pushback on because you know, a lot of men do hold a lot of men accountable, but it doesn't, it doesn't attenuate the amount of men that fill the void to fill that vacuum.
Speaker B:Because every man we call out, there's 10 guys filling the vacuum.
Speaker B:It's never gonna stop.
Speaker B:And so that's why I was telling Lauren when she was just, hey, hey, back up that part.
Speaker B:Because half of men's problems with just regular battle of the sexes is because a lot of men call each other out on stuff.
Speaker B:And it's like, we don't want to hear how you feel.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You shouldn't do that.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker B:But for every dude that, you know, takes that under advisement and changes, it's ten dudes that don't.
Speaker B:So, you know, it's like, yeah, you got the one drug dealer kingpin, but there'll be another one.
Speaker B:You haven't done anything.
Speaker B:I'm not saying stop the fight.
Speaker B:What I'm saying is you haven't done anything because there'll be somebody else to fill that void.
Speaker A:There's always another Nino Brown.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:And, like, there's always another Creeper and another Chester.
Speaker A:Always.
Speaker B:I mean, man, you have a family member that used to do this for a living.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker B:It's never gonna end.
Speaker B:So again, like I said, well, I mean, I could talk about this forever, but the bottom line is, if you're a man, you're just part of it.
Speaker B:Whether you are actively a part of it or not, you just are not as.
Speaker B:As, you know.
Speaker B:And then if these women don't want.
Speaker B:If they're scared and all the things that you have to work a little extra hard to make her feel safe, then it is what it is.
Speaker B:Because, honestly, choosing the bear is probably best, because bears don't do the things that they're trying to get away from.
Speaker B:They just don't.
Speaker B:They do a lot of things, but not this.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Thanks for making my job harder, dicks.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker B:Is what it is, sir.
Speaker A:I ain't never getting a chicken, man.
Speaker C:As a guy, if you're all right, I'm gonna say it.
Speaker C:If you're brought up correctly, you're always taught that you have.
Speaker C:It's your job to almost go out of your way to make the woman feel safe.
Speaker C:Like, it.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker C:I've never actually had a problem with any woman actually almost exhibiting, like, a certain sense of fear and lack of trust.
Speaker C:For me, like, I'm.
Speaker C:I'm okay with that, because I get it.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Even though I don't take offense to it, because I'm like, I know that's not me.
Speaker C:Me.
Speaker C:Yeah, but you don't know that's not me.
Speaker C:And you know what I'm saying, like, you, you don't get, you don't get to actually know until it happens.
Speaker C:And, and the famous words of Cujo Goody, you think it won't happen to you, then it do.
Speaker C:Like, that's just like a said, man.
Speaker C:We're, we're, we're always a threat in that sense when it comes to women.
Speaker C:But man, that just escape got, man.
Speaker A:Yeah, it, it, it just makes you feel all sorts of grimy, nasty, dirty all at the same time.
Speaker A:It's definitely the ink and we ain't do nothing.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:See, that's the beauty.
Speaker B:It doesn't matter.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know, right?
Speaker B:Doesn't matter.
Speaker A:All right, Mo B, what's on your mind?
Speaker C:Two things, man.
Speaker C:First of all, you're right.
Speaker C:Family members do be listening.
Speaker C:Cuz my mom, I don't know, she's.
Speaker C:She started like a regular habit of listening.
Speaker C:And then, you know what I'm saying, she does, she does very feminine energy listening where like, she hears part of what I say and then like, creates the rest of it to make it sound like an attack.
Speaker C:She got mad at me about the Vienna sausage thing.
Speaker C:She was like, so why you up on the show talking about I wasn't a good mom?
Speaker C:And I'm like, when the did I say that?
Speaker C:And she's like talking about like, I made you eat.
Speaker C:I'm like, I never stayed it that you made me.
Speaker C:I said, you let me.
Speaker C:Those are very different statements.
Speaker C:And she was like, well, you said you wanted them.
Speaker C:And I'm like, my kids have never eaten beer in the sausage, therefore.
Speaker C:Because I didn't let them.
Speaker C:You let that happen.
Speaker C:I never criticized your Muslim because of it.
Speaker C:And she was like, what you mean you don't know how I made them?
Speaker C:I'm like, because I don't.
Speaker C:I blocked that part of my life out.
Speaker C:And she was like, I warmed him up and I always gave you macaroni and cheese with it.
Speaker C:I'm just like, oh, awesome.
Speaker C:That explains a lot.
Speaker C:That's another thing that I don't eat a lot of now.
Speaker C:Like, did you bring macaroni and cheese for me?
Speaker A:Groovy.
Speaker C:And a sausage.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, yo, I didn't, I didn't say you was a bad mom.
Speaker C:I just said like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:You let that happen.
Speaker C:Like, that's.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker C:That happened on your watch.
Speaker C:I feel like that's a fair statement that happened on your watch.
Speaker B:You don't know how that sound, man?
Speaker C:He just had a psychotic break.
Speaker B:I know, right?
Speaker B:I blocked that out of my life.
Speaker B:I blocked that part of my life.
Speaker C:She was like.
Speaker C:Used to call them little hot dogs.
Speaker C:And I'm like, first of all.
Speaker C:So that means I was aware of what actual hot dogs were, and you still were giving them to me.
Speaker C:And she was like, well, look, when you were little, it was one thing that I knew you could eat that you weren't gonna choke on because it was, you know, you.
Speaker C:They're so soft and everything.
Speaker C:I was just like, I understand your logic, but if I was calling them baby hot dogs, that meant I knew what an actual hot dog was.
Speaker C:Not saying that.
Speaker C:That's much better.
Speaker C:That's much better.
Speaker A:That's much better.
Speaker A:Oh, Jesus.
Speaker C:So, yeah, that's what's on my.
Speaker C:Look, look, man, I. I promise you, I wasn't attacking your motherhood.
Speaker C:I had a great upbringing.
Speaker C:Besides the Vienna sausage.
Speaker C:Sausage.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker C:The good thing about being young is that, you know what?
Speaker C:Your brain can block things out.
Speaker C:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, it was like Professor X came in and blocked that part of my life.
Speaker C:Life out.
Speaker C:I don't even know it existed.
Speaker C:That Dark Phoenix soccer doesn't even exist in my life.
Speaker B:Oh,.
Speaker C:I know it happened, but I don't really know what happened.
Speaker B:That is hilarious.
Speaker C:Any other thing, man.
Speaker C:So that.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:That's my negative.
Speaker C:I'm saying negative because she called me with an attitude, too.
Speaker C:Like, she called me really upset.
Speaker C:It's like the second time she's called me upset over something I didn't actually say say.
Speaker C:And then she argued with me about saying it, and I'm just like, you know, it's on the podcast.
Speaker C:You can actually go back and relisten to it, and it'll.
Speaker C:It'll empirical evidence.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And my mom damn near CGI me.
Speaker C:She was like, oh, you gonna go back and edit it?
Speaker C:Like, yo, you think I'm.
Speaker C:You think I'm working that hard?
Speaker C:My mom.
Speaker C:You've known me for a long time.
Speaker C:Like, the longest time.
Speaker C:What about me suggest that I'm gonna work that hard at anything?
Speaker A:She was giving you credit, man.
Speaker C:I don't even need that credit.
Speaker B:That's unreasonable.
Speaker B:That's the credit you can keep.
Speaker A:Oh, please.
Speaker C:Okay, so now get to the positive.
Speaker C:So I'm gonna brag on my kid a little bit, because I can.
Speaker C:Because they're awesome.
Speaker C:But yeah.
Speaker C:So my oldest is officially the youth poet laureate of Richmond.
Speaker C:She was in a competition.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker C:This weekend.
Speaker C:And then youngest person in the competition.
Speaker C:And she's the youth poet laureate for Richmond and she's going to get published.
Speaker C:Like what she wrote is going to actually get published.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker C:But you know what?
Speaker C:That wasn't even actually the most satisfying part of the event.
Speaker C:What was actually really satisfying was seeing all these young people with these just amazingly profound pieces of poetry.
Speaker C:Because I'll be the first person to tell you, I am not a fan of spoken work.
Speaker C:Not a fan, like the whole slam poetry thing, I appreciate it, I love the art in it.
Speaker C:But I've always thought, and this is my own personal bias, I've always thought slam poetry was like a little bit of a dramatic form of poetry because I'm more of a fan of the actual writing.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, I agree with the talent, but you know, I've never been a fan of people being like, I'mma say things like this, this and that for the dramatic effect.
Speaker C:Like, I've never been.
Speaker C:Cuz that's not me.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I'm not that type of person.
Speaker C:But seeing these kids do that and like, it wasn't a gimmick.
Speaker C:It was like, it was how they actually felt about things.
Speaker C:And I mean, they were talking about heavy.
Speaker C:Like, it was like, it wasn't like teeny bopper, I'm in love type with like the boy that I saw walking down the hall.
Speaker C:It was like, like deep, real world, profound issues being expressed.
Speaker C:And I was just like, man, I wish more people my age could see young people like this.
Speaker C:Because it would give us Reuben hope.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:It would give us Reuben level of hope about, like there are still people out there who think about and care about and like, it was awesome to see be my daughter who probably feels awkward and feels like she's not really accepted in a lot of circles.
Speaker C:Be around a whole bunch of people who are like embracing.
Speaker C:So like I. I could care less about like her.
Speaker C:Her placing her being the ambassador, doing none of that mattered to me.
Speaker C:Just seeing her interact with other people who are interested in the same thing and just seeing her be allowed and feel safe enough to be the extrovert that she is.
Speaker C:Because she is and she is the extra and extrovert.
Speaker C:Like she.
Speaker C:She can.
Speaker C:She's got a really big personality.
Speaker C:Don't know where she got that from.
Speaker C:Because I know your boy here is not that this is the most outgoing.
Speaker C:I am a piece of here and I don't even use my real name up here.
Speaker C:So that's how uncomfortable I feel with it.
Speaker C:I'm just saying like if really peeling back the banana.
Speaker C:Like I, I'm not the look at me guy.
Speaker C:But she loves being on stage and doing all those things.
Speaker C:So being able to see her be embraced, it was just like, like that's like the most gratifying thing that I've ever experienced as a parent.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Just seeing her be herself, which, you know, I'm biased of course.
Speaker C:I think she's awesome.
Speaker C:Even when she's annoying me, I think she's awesome cuz the annoying parts about her are my deficiencies.
Speaker C:Like I am not big and boisterous about things.
Speaker C:So it's not a fault on her.
Speaker C:That's me.
Speaker C:I'm the person that's like, hey, hey, can we bring it down a little bit?
Speaker C:Like everything ain't got to be up here.
Speaker C:I live down here.
Speaker C:Like I'm always.
Speaker C:This is the most outgoing and energetic I sound talking for the most part.
Speaker C:I'm pretty level all the time.
Speaker C:So seeing her like just might even just be embraced like, like just generally love and appreciate it for her thoughts.
Speaker C:Because I mean, first of all her poetry is really good.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It, it is really good.
Speaker C:And then seeing other people hear her and be like, yo, thank you.
Speaker C:And seeing other people say, man, I resonate with what you're talking about because she's, she said in one of her poems, the one that she actually did in competition.
Speaker C:It's a step statement that I've made up here several times about being a black person that didn't feel like I belonged.
Speaker C:Like I, I was, I was too proper for the black people and through too much slang for the white people.
Speaker C:And she encapsulated that in a poem so well.
Speaker C:And I was just like, man, I wish I had a space when I was younger because I wrote.
Speaker C:I still write occasionally, but I've never had the desire to share it.
Speaker C:I did it because I just did it.
Speaker C:But she was like, no, I'm, I'm.
Speaker C:I want to share it because I.
Speaker C:And she wants to share because she wants, she seeks an acceptance that I never did.
Speaker C:I didn't want to know that other people felt the way I did.
Speaker C:I didn't care because I was feeling it.
Speaker C:So who cares if anybody else is?
Speaker C:But, but I can see in her that she wants to know other people feel the same way and that it's okay.
Speaker C:And seeing her have the space to do it was awesome, man.
Speaker C:It was like probably the best thing I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I don't know if I've ever been more satisfied, happy and like a whole bunch of emotions that I didn't even know I was going to process success at one time.
Speaker C:So really all I could do is clap and smile and take a couple pictures because that's, you know, that's how I showed my emotion and just talking about it up here.
Speaker C:But yeah, man.
Speaker C:So that's what's on my mind, man.
Speaker C:Like, man, there's a lot of young people out here, man, who, who see all this that's going on, man.
Speaker C:Because there was a lot of political things being made and just identity thing.
Speaker C:Like it was just.
Speaker C:It was amazing to see a group of people between the ages of 15 and 18 say things that 30 and 40 year olds aren't smart enough to process and do it in such an eloquent way where it's not like they're just.
Speaker C:They weren't just like given the news, they were given analysis and solutions through their words.
Speaker C:Just an amazing event, man.
Speaker C:So yeah, that's what's on my mind.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:Thank you, Moby.
Speaker A:What's on my mind is a couple things.
Speaker A:One, seeing Punk Lost, I'm very unhappy about that.
Speaker C:So acknowledge him, man.
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker A:That I'm done.
Speaker A:So annoyed with that.
Speaker A:Two, It's.
Speaker A:It's interesting, right?
Speaker A:Like I found today that I talk a lot and I also.
Speaker A:And then like they ask like pertinent questions after that.
Speaker A:So I don't know, I find that to be interesting.
Speaker A:Interesting because I don't really feel like, you know, other than the show, like people don't necessarily like listen to me.
Speaker A:But then again, I think it's more.
Speaker A:I don't tend to give pertinent information out and so I think that's.
Speaker A:That's something I want to do more.
Speaker A:And I guess the other thing really is that.
Speaker A:What was it?
Speaker A:I just, I literally just had it.
Speaker A:I watched Euphoria last week for the first time ever.
Speaker A:Season three, the first episode I was.
Speaker C:I've heard so many things about it and I've just never got around to it.
Speaker A:I was actually surprised.
Speaker A:It was pretty good.
Speaker A:I think the first episode really, really kind of explain who everyone body was.
Speaker A:And I really have no want to see the first two seasons because you know, a lot of that is when they were in high school.
Speaker A:And I'm gonna be honest, as Ty played and all that, I'm just not about it anymore.
Speaker A:They explained the history the first Two seasons pretty well in that episode to a point where I don't feel like I need to go back and rehash that history and stuff, because from what I understand, it's a whole bunch of tragedy, a whole bunch of drugs, and a whole bunch of.
Speaker A:I don't give a.
Speaker A:So, like, oh, for me, Important to.
Speaker C:The viewing audience, and you're just like, no, no.
Speaker B:If you want to watch it.
Speaker B:If you want to watch it, I suggest you start with from the beginning.
Speaker B:It is important.
Speaker A:All I guess all I'm saying is, is I felt like they gave a.
Speaker A:A lot of history without necessarily giving, like, overtly given a lot of history.
Speaker A:Like, I understand.
Speaker A:I understand the basics of what happened to Rue, you know, and I'm fine with that.
Speaker A:I unders.
Speaker A:I don't understand the basis that happened to the Sydney Sweeney character, but I kind of feel like I can tell how that that went and just stuff like that.
Speaker A:So, like, yeah, you can go back and watch it.
Speaker A:I don't feel like I need to, because I was very impressed with that episode.
Speaker A:And once again, I guess for me, I'm just.
Speaker A:Maybe it's just because of my age.
Speaker A:I don't know if I can sit back and watch the high school drama stuff.
Speaker A:I just don't think I can.
Speaker A:Now.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna sit here and say it's not important.
Speaker A:I just think that they did a really good job of explaining where we are now.
Speaker A:The only thing I didn't get, basically, was the beginning part, and I feel like that was probably the end of season two, but ag.
Speaker A:Clearly you've watched it before.
Speaker B:No, I haven't.
Speaker B:I haven't gotten through the.
Speaker B:The first season, but I got deep into it, and it's like, I feel like the basis.
Speaker B:I feel like if you.
Speaker B:If you're gonna watch it.
Speaker B:If you're watching it, and I don't even know if you can watch something that intense casually.
Speaker B:But for me, personally.
Speaker B:For me personally, this is not anybody else.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:For me personally, I like seeing how all this got started, because when I watched the first four episodes, it was a whole lot of stuff that's going on, and a lot of it, they kind of dump you in the middle of it, and then you have to work backwards on, you know, the show works backwards on how it came to be.
Speaker B:Be.
Speaker B:Because it all starts with her getting out of rehab.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And so it starts there, but then the show gives you backstories on this, and then it goes you forward and backwards.
Speaker B:It's always just push and pull.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:That's why I felt like if you're going to watch it for real, then you.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:It might behoove you to watch it from the beginning.
Speaker B:Based on what I've seen, yeah.
Speaker A:I, like, I've never watched a full episode before, but I've caught it in clips like.
Speaker A:And, you know, every time you, like, you scan and it's like, holy, what the.
Speaker A:No, don't feel like that.
Speaker A:You know, just stuff like that.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And from what I could tell from the first episode, it seems like shit's been pretty intense.
Speaker A:So, like, I guess for me, I liked how they started the season.
Speaker A:So at this moment in time, I don't know if I feel like.
Speaker A:For me, I don't know if I feel like I need to go back and watch it and it may come to a ser.
Speaker A:A thing where they're going to talk about something, and I'm like, I should probably go back and watch it.
Speaker A:But at this moment in time, I felt like the first episode did a really good job of catching you up because it's been like five or six years, right?
Speaker A:As far as when the first episode.
Speaker B:Has been on for a while.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And it's only third season, so it's like.
Speaker A:But yeah, like, I mean, you know, the first episode of the third season was crazy.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, I don't know if either one of y' all saw it, but, I mean, was crazy, like, happened.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Based on what I've seen, I believe you.
Speaker A:So, yeah, yeah, like, like legit happened, man.
Speaker A:And it's just like, ooh.
Speaker A:I mean, could I watch season one and two possibly?
Speaker A:Possibly.
Speaker A:It just comes down to a want situation on that.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I don't think that they've lost any of the.
Speaker A:The push and pull, as you said, because that was very advocate.
Speaker A:I mean, advocate.
Speaker A:That was very adamant in the first one.
Speaker A:But I will say it seems like they are more on a projective current timeline now.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:They talk about stuff that happened in the past, but it's not a lot of.
Speaker A:Of flashbacks.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:It's pretty much what's going on right now.
Speaker A:And I guess I don't know if this.
Speaker A:They change directors or whatever, but I do like this, the way it's going now.
Speaker A:So, yeah, man, that, you know, it's interesting seeing Zendaya in a different light because he is a very different person in this than in anything, anything else I've ever seen her in.
Speaker A:So it's a very adult role.
Speaker A:Very, very adult role.
Speaker A:But, you know, I don't get paid by them, but I'm just saying some good.
Speaker A:Like, I thought I was interested, and it kept my interest throughout the whole episode, which, for me, Butterfly, man.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:Sometimes I'm a butterfly, butterfly.
Speaker A:A butterfly walks through his shit's over.
Speaker A:So, yeah, other than that, like, you know, Daredevil's really good this season.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, man.
Speaker A:TV in itself, it's gotten.
Speaker A:Tv.
Speaker A:TV has gotten better as far as, like, shows and stuff.
Speaker A:You know, I like the Voice.
Speaker A:I don't really like America title, so, like, none of that does a.
Speaker A:The Voice at the beginning does something for me, but once they get into the actual battle, I'm not really that interested, which is crazy.
Speaker A:I actually just like the.
Speaker A:When they pick at people and they turn the chairs and.
Speaker A:Because, yeah, for the most part, I feel like it's different when you're fighting for something to get on the show than it is after you get some help and stuff like that.
Speaker A:Like, because you should be good after you.
Speaker A:If you get some professional help and stuff like, that's my opinion.
Speaker A:That doesn't take away from the people who are really, really good.
Speaker A:But it just.
Speaker C:For me, the seasons happen too fast, man.
Speaker A:I mean, it's only really.
Speaker A:For Voice is only two a year usually.
Speaker C:That's too much for me, man.
Speaker C:It's been like 30 seasons of that show, man.
Speaker B:Well, not wrong.
Speaker C:Well, seriously, it's been like 30.
Speaker C:I was.
Speaker C:And me.
Speaker C:Me.
Speaker C:Me and Winter were in it, like, the first five or six seasons.
Speaker C:I was in it.
Speaker A:Well, because they only did it once a year.
Speaker A:Then.
Speaker A:Then they started doing twice a year.
Speaker C:On season 15, like season six two weeks ago.
Speaker C:How did y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker C:How did y' all cram a whole season on Tuesday?
Speaker B:On Tuesday.
Speaker B:That's so messed up.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I mean, they do.
Speaker A:When you do it twice year, their seasons change.
Speaker C:I mean, I get it's about the money.
Speaker C:I'm not mad at them for trying to get that bread, but I'm just like, damn, man, you make it real hard for a casual TV watcher to keep up because like I told you, man, I get a couple episodes behind.
Speaker C:I'm out.
Speaker C:Well, I'm streaming Twitter, man.
Speaker A:But I. I think with that also, I think with the Voice in American Idol is both that and is also talent.
Speaker A:Right, Right.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:You know, when you keep finding pockets of talent, you want to cultivate it as best as possible.
Speaker C:And so, like, you think it's about talent but ain't.
Speaker C:Because if it was about talent, the Winners of the Voice would get pushed more.
Speaker A:I mean, some of them have all those.
Speaker C:Name three people from the Voice that have relevant music careers right now.
Speaker A:I said some of them.
Speaker A:I didn't say all of them.
Speaker C:It's been 30 seasons.
Speaker A:You can't name three I've had because I don't watch.
Speaker C:You can name, like, three American idol things, and you're not even a casual.
Speaker C:Like, you.
Speaker C:You're not even American Idol.
Speaker A:But I'm not even a casual voice person.
Speaker A:I watch.
Speaker C:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker C:You don't.
Speaker C:You're not even a casual American Idol person, and you can name at least three artists who've won that show.
Speaker A:But I couldn't tell you anything in the last 10 years about America Idol.
Speaker A:Nothing.
Speaker C:Well, you got 15 years you can't say about the Voice.
Speaker A:Well, I don't know.
Speaker A:All I'm saying is, like, the dude who was second on.
Speaker A:What was that called?
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The Nick Cannon show?
Speaker A:The.
Speaker B:Oh, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker B:But dressed up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The masked singer.
Speaker A:Masked singer?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Was it David Davis, Whatever trucking name was?
Speaker A:Like, I knew who that dude was once he took his face off.
Speaker A:I mean, there's.
Speaker A:Once again, there's some people, and then.
Speaker C:I'm not saying you couldn't identify them if you saw him.
Speaker C:Yeah, you said you could.
Speaker C:You don't know their name.
Speaker A:No, I don't.
Speaker A:But that's America Idol, dude from, like, season like, six or something.
Speaker C:It doesn't matter when they're from.
Speaker C:I'm just saying you, like, at some point in time, American Idol people did have, like, relevant music careers, and the Voice never did.
Speaker C:Did that.
Speaker C:The Voice has always basically just pushed the Voice, and then afterwards, it's like, yeah, cool, we gotta do this next season.
Speaker A:Well, but you.
Speaker A:You also understand that with the Voice, the winner of that voice, whoever their coach is, goes to their production team or whatever, and then they do what they do with them.
Speaker A:I mean, like, sometimes.
Speaker A:I mean, what.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, nobody got really pushed.
Speaker C:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker C:I'm not saying that they don't try try, but they don't really try that.
Speaker A:I mean, when we started talking about.
Speaker C:That Ruben Stutter, man, you could not hear that dude.
Speaker A:Oh, God damn it.
Speaker C:Hell, that season, it's been people who didn't win the show that you.
Speaker C:You still heard from.
Speaker C:Like, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker C:I'm just saying the Voice.
Speaker C:The Voice turned that into a money grab real quick.
Speaker C:Or American Idol.
Speaker C:As much as I'm not a fan of that show at all, I do like the Voice better as concert of shit show.
Speaker C:American Idol at least, like, was real serious about being like, hey, we trying to push somebody.
Speaker A:And I mean, in all reality, they've only had, like, what, three people who have really, really, really done something.
Speaker A:That's Kelly Clarkson.
Speaker A:That's the Chris Daughtery dude.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I guess Ruben's done it.
Speaker A:Like, really?
Speaker A:Those are the only three that really have done anything for themselves.
Speaker A:I mean, you could say Fantasia, I guess maybe she's four.
Speaker A:And he also.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, I forgot she was on there.
Speaker B:Yeah, Mandisa, she didn't even win.
Speaker A:I mean, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker A:Like, Jennifer Hudson didn't win either.
Speaker B:Oh, she was on there.
Speaker B:I didn't know she was on there.
Speaker A:Yeah, Jennifer Hudson.
Speaker C:Here's the thing.
Speaker C:You just said you couldn't name that many people and you just rattled them all.
Speaker A:Because those are like the first three, four seasons.
Speaker A:But, like, I couldn't name anything after, like, season four, five.
Speaker A:And stop putting yourself on mute right before you talk Moby.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:So, yeah, all I'm saying is, I don't know, like, I don't watch any of those shows anymore.
Speaker A:For real.
Speaker A:For real.
Speaker A:Because they don't do nothing for me.
Speaker A:But the other thing.
Speaker A:And then we're definitely going to go, yo, man, the Bachelorette show scandal.
Speaker A:That's called we didn't do our job.
Speaker A:Somebody do their job, right?
Speaker A:Somebody got canned.
Speaker C:What scandal are you talking about?
Speaker C:I. I don't watch.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker B:The woman was like, abusing the boyfriend.
Speaker B:Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker A:That's why the blaster.
Speaker A:The Bachelorette's not on tv.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Cancel a whole season.
Speaker A:And they got into the part apparently where it was like the final four, so they completely stopped production because somebody didn't do their damn job.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And somebody else found out about.
Speaker A:Cause apparently she abused her partner in front of the kids.
Speaker B:Well, actually, the straw was when she threw the chair the second time it hit her daughter.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And missed him.
Speaker A:Hit the kid.
Speaker A:And it's like, bro, how do y' all not see this in background?
Speaker A:Like, how do y' all find out about this shit?
Speaker B:It probably wasn't in her background.
Speaker B:Cause it was fairly new.
Speaker B:The process had already started.
Speaker B:Started.
Speaker B:So the vetting part was over where she was in the pipeline.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:Then she did this.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker A:But also, this would have been the first Bachelorette who did not come from a bachelor show.
Speaker A:That was A big deal about it because she had not come from the thing.
Speaker A:So she was.
Speaker A:I mean the vetting process for her like when usually pick somebody who second or third in the Bachelor show, they make them the Bachelorette.
Speaker A:Well she was brand new.
Speaker A:They decide I guess they decided the last season it won't know chicks available.
Speaker A:So they found some woman but somebody didn't do.
Speaker A:Somebody either didn't tell her the rules or they didn't find out that she was because apparently there's a history of abuse.
Speaker A:Like this ain't the first time he's called the cops on her.
Speaker A:So like yo, somebody just didn't do their job right, man.
Speaker A:So somebody probably got canned for that.
Speaker A:Which I mean because that's millions of dollars gone.
Speaker A:I think they estimated somewhere around 60 to 80 million dollars that ABC took an L on.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker B:Pretty bad because yeah they all.
Speaker A:Because huh.
Speaker B:They immediately canceled the season after that got on Instagram and that's just.
Speaker A:And now the 60 to 80 million dollars was literally just from sponsors.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not to mention all the people they had to pay all the time they took already because they were damn near at the beginning at the end.
Speaker A:So it's like bro, like yeah man, craziness.
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