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Paws for Reflection: Lessons from 2025 and What We’re Unleashing Next
Episode 747th January 2026 • Barking Mad • BSM Partners
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As we forge full speed ahead into 2026, the Barking Mad team takes a moment to reflect on the conversations that shaped 2025 and what they revealed about pets, pet ownership, and the industry at large. From standout episodes and unexpected lessons to topics that challenged assumptions and sparked deeper curiosity, this mini episode looks back on what resonated most with listeners and why it mattered. Then, hosts Jordan Tyler and Dr. Stephanie Clark look ahead to 2026, sharing what’s next for the podcast, how the show is evolving, and where they plan to take future conversations. Expect thoughtful takeaways, a few honest laughs, and a clear-eyed look at what’s coming in hot!

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Check out our top five episodes from 2025!

🎟️ Beyond the Brands: Your Backstage Pass to SUPERZOO 2025

🔮 The Billion-Dollar Deception of DCM: Inside KetoNatural’s Class Action Lawsuit

🪰 Bug Appétit: From Ick to Innovation on Insect-Based Pet Food

💕 Looking for Love: Swiping Right on Sustainable Cat Litter

♻️ Is Recyclable Pet Food Packaging A Lie? Unraveling The Pet Industry’s Plastic Waste Problem

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Show Notes

00:00 – Inside the Episode

02:35 – Revisiting Our Top Episodes of 2025

17:00 – Jordan and Dr. Steph’s Favorite Fun Facts

21:36 – We’re Open to Suggestions!

26:30 – Get Ready for Rufus

32:36 – What Else to Expect in 2026

33:30 – Key Takeaways and Stay Tuned!

34:18 – Very Serious Bloopers

Transcripts

00:12

Jordan Tyler

ap our favorite episodes from:

00:30

Dr. Stephanie Clark

r teasers of what's coming in:

00:46

Jordan Tyler

Grab your hot chocolate, your eggnog, your holiday or cold weather beverage of choice, get cozy, and join us for a recap that's a little unhinged, but in the best possible way.

00:59

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Welcome to Barking Mad, a podcast by BSM Partners. We're your hosts, Dr. Stephanie Clark—

01:08

Jordan Tyler

n Tyler. Happy New Year! It's:

01:49

Dr. Stephanie Clark

We should definitely have our favorite bloopers at the end.

01:52

Jordan Tyler

Yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one. I feel like there were so many unused bloopers. Like, I just kept, like, a folder of bloopers.

02:02

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Love it.

02:03

Jordan Tyler

And there are so many unused in there. We could probably fill an entire episode just with us being silly. So, yes, let's do that for sure.

02:10

Dr. Stephanie Clark

ke, our top three bloopers of:

02:21

Jordan Tyler

I was going to say, like, any, like—one category of bloopers has to be you meowing on the mic. And it's just like, you do it so often that it's become like a trademark.

02:35

Jordan Tyler

Okay. I wanted to, like, quickly go through some of our top performing episodes, so episodes that y'all liked that our listeners really enjoyed. And I think it crosses over with maybe some of our favorite episodes to produce. So, we love that as a trend, as a thing. Stephanie, if I can totally just put you on the spot for a second, if you could guess what our top performing episode was from last year, which one do you think it would be and why?

03:06

Dr. Stephanie Clark

In my heart and my soul, I hope it is the cat litter one. One, everything from how not serious life was during that recording to how many cat puns we put in there to, like, me forcing my husband to listen to it. And I'm like, did you hear that? Did you did you catch that pun? Like, he didn't have ears and he wasn't listening. But, like, I dare I say that was, like, genius.

03:40

Jordan Tyler

Wow. Very nice. Very nice.

03:43

Dr. Stephanie Clark

It was fun.

03:44

Jordan Tyler

Yeah. We don't even need sound effects on this podcast because we have Dr. Stephanie Clark, the human sound effect machine.

03:51

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Pretended she was a cat growing up, and now it's just coming back to fruition.

03:55

Jordan Tyler

She's like, I knew that was going to serve me well.

03:57

Dr. Stephanie Clark

But seriously, I think about, like, “Litter Island,” like… mad genius.

04:03

Jordan Tyler

Yeah. Yeah. I can't. I can't remember whose. It was so it was such a beautiful thing because I remember it being Kait’s idea originally to like, “Okay, what if we frame this as like a dating game?” And were all like, that's such a good idea. And then I feel like from there, that was like where the avalanche of cat puns and, like, silliness started. And it just, like, kept snowballing and kept snowballing and we, like, totally delivered all the way through the final episode. It was amazing.

04:35

Dr. Stephanie Clark

And we took something like cat litter and made it so fun. So please tell me it's on there.

04:40

Jordan Tyler

It's on there. It's on there. It's number four. So, it's in the top five. I know. I was kind of like, not even three? Not even two?

04:47

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Listen, guys. If you haven't listened to it, listen to it. Your ears will not regret it.

04:53

Jordan Tyler

.:

05:49

Jordan Tyler

But we did it. And we Stephanie and I basically, set ourselves up in there for, you know, ten hours a day just sat in there for three days straight and interviewed a ton of people… I think it was 27 interviews and twelve plus hours of content.

06:10

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I think my brain was, like, eking out of my ears. Like, the amount of attention and focus for each recording and each person, like, I was done. But let's talk about the first day. Like, usually Super Zoo, just to get a picture of this, guys, usually it is freezing. So, it's like a bajillion degrees outside in Las Vegas, like middle of the desert. And then you walk inside the trade show, and you are, like, layered up because it's usually freezing. But this year, something happened, and I think someone forgot their job was to turn on the air condition. And so, it was a thousand degrees in the show floor or on the show floor. And then within the box, it was hotter than that because the only real quote, unquote air condition is, like, pulling air from outside.

06:59

Dr. Stephanie Clark

So you're literally pulling hot air into a hot box of people just talking. I was like I think at the end of the day of the first day, were so delusional, like, so heat stricken. Like, we, like, came crawling out, and were like, Sandy from, like, SpongeBob, like, “Water! Water!”

07:16

Jordan Tyler

Like, “I need it!”

07:22

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Yep. It got better, but I was like, holy cow. It is so roasty toasty.

07:30

Jordan Tyler

Yep. That was pretty much my experience. Yeah. Yeah. I think on Friday morning, I think you were visiting, somebody's booth, and I sat down with a guy, and I forgot to turn the, like, ventilation. And, oh my god, I was like, I was in the interview trying to play it cool. Right? And trying not to let him know that I'm physically sweating and, like, wondering why I feel like I'm suffocating in this interview right now. And then we opened the door and I was like, oh, it's because I didn't turn the thing on.

07:58

Dr. Stephanie Clark

It's like Titanic in the scene where, like, she slaps her hand up against, like, the fogged window. You guys are like, Let us out. And like, you just see this handprint.

08:10

Jordan Tyler

Yeah, I think the funniest thing with all of that was were interviewing the Dr. Pol team, and this episode has yet to come out, so stay tuned for that. But were interviewing Charles Pol, Dr. Pol's son, and Michael, the guy that used to work on The Incredible Dr. Pol, the TV show on National Geographic. Anyway, we're sitting there and it's during the BSM Partners happy hour that we're doing in our booth. So, there's literally like 100 people just like surrounding us in this booth. And we're sweaty, we've been in this booth all day long, and there are so many people just standing around watching. There's the booth is see through, by the way. So, like, everybody can see exactly what's going on from any angle on the inside.

08:54

Jordan Tyler

And we're just sitting there, like, on display, like, in our natural habitats, and everybody was, like, you know, like, poking the glass.

09:03

Dr. Stephanie Clark

And it really came true. Like, don't feed the animals. They literally put the snack table right in front of the door. So, like, we couldn't even leave if we wanted to, but, like, the snacks were just right there. And anyone who's been to SUPERZOO knows eating is few and far between. You have a coffee for breakfast and this ridiculously huge meal for dinner, and that's it. And you're supposed to sustain yourself for seventy two hours on that. But, like, the snack table was, like, right there, and I'm like, “Snack…”

09:34

Jordan Tyler

Yeah, and then the bar was behind it too. Everybody getting their happy hour drinks. And I was like, oh my god.

09:40

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I just wanted water.

09:43

Jordan Tyler

Anything. Oh, yeah. 10/10 experience. 10/10 content. 10/10 going to wear T-shirts next year and bring extra water.

09:58

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Definitely doing it again.

10:01

Jordan Tyler

Yeah. Yeah. We're yeah. Yeah. We are. We have to. It was fun. It was a learning experience.

10:06

Dr. Stephanie Clark

If not, at least come by and see our shrimps bug shirts.

10:10

Jordan Tyler

True. Because those were pretty cool. We'll reprise those.

10:14

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I came across mine a couple days ago. I was like, “What is… Oh.”

10:18

Jordan Tyler

Speaking of shrimps is bugs, the insect protein insect ingredient rather episode that we did earlier this year was our third most popular episode of the year. “Bug Appetit,” if you will. And in there, obviously, Stephanie and I make a pretty good case that shrimps is bugs. And that's all I'm going to say. You're just going to have to go listen to learn more about that little Easter egg.

10:46

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I think it's at the end.

10:49

Jordan Tyler

Stephanie will help you cheat. We also do show notes for episodes. That's in the episode description, so you could probably find it there as well. I'm absolutely sure I marked it as a show note because I felt that it was a very important piece of the conversation.

11:05

Dr. Stephanie Clark

It was pivotal.

11:06

Jordan Tyler

I would say so. You know? Like, pretty foundational to everything.

:

Dr. Stephanie Clark

So between SUPERZOO show floor and bugs, what fell between one and three?

11:19

Jordan Tyler

It was the DCM episode that we did with Daniel Schulof of KetoNatural. And I was kind of surprised that one wasn't the top one only because that might be the spiciest, steamin’-hottiest episode we've ever done. And I know those aren't words, real words that I just said, but oh my god was that episode spicy.

11:40

Dr. Stephanie Clark

It was like you take a bite and you hafafahahfhahfa.

11:42

Jordan Tyler

Yeah. Yeah. It's one of those. And you, like, need a glass of milk too. And at the same time, you also probably need to pop a bag of popcorn because, like, get your popcorn ready… She's juicy.

11:53

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I think more updates to come:

12:02

Jordan Tyler

Oooh.

12:03

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I'm pretty sure more things were happening come November and December.

12:07

Jordan Tyler

Yeah. Some more research, perhaps, some more, exploration of the DCM—I like to say—

12:17

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Saga.

12:18

Jordan Tyler

Yeah. Saga is quite an apt term because it truly has been a saga.

12:24

Dr. Stephanie Clark

People say controversy, and I'm like, there's really no controversy around it. It's just research.

12:33

Jordan Tyler

No controversy ever in research. No.

12:35

Dr. Stephanie Clark

None. None whatsoever.

12:41

Jordan Tyler

But yeah. Yeah. The plot the plot thickened and will continue to thicken, apparently. And we're going to keep covering it because, by God, somebody's got to do it, you know?

12:52

Dr. Stephanie Clark

And we will do that for you. We will take it upon ourselves.

12:56

Jordan Tyler

Mhmm. We'll lock ourselves in a hot podcasting booth all day. I'll probably even eat a bug. There's probably other things I would do for you guys. Just saying.

13:07

Dr. Stephanie Clark

So wrapping it up, we've got SUPERZOO—

13:11

Jordan Tyler

Yep.

13:12

Dr. Stephanie Clark

—because let's just face it. We're all over the board here. In case you ever thought a podcast couldn't cover enough things, we’ve got SUPERZOO. We've got DCM. We have bugs. We have litter. We have… number five?

13:30

Jordan Tyler

So number five, I was surprised by, but it's the one we did about sustainable packaging. And really, it's about sustainable pet food packaging, but really, it's about the pet food industry's plastic waste problem. And I will say this kind of ties into perhaps my least favorite learnings from these podcast episodes because, like, that's why I love podcasting and journalism and interviewing people is you just get to learn so many new things and talk to people about things you would never, like, have a regular conversation about. But at the same time, some of those things you can't unlearn. And I'm like, I wish I could unlearn some of the unfortunate statistics I learned about recycling in the United States, but unfortunately, I can't.

14:14

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I think the scariest thing about that episode, one, right, like, the title is phenomenal. Like, we always want to know if something is a lie. Like, of course, I'm going to click and listen, but the amount of waste. And now, like, 'tis the season right now when we're recording and the amount of packaging that I am getting. And then I'm like, I bet you this was packaged in something else before it was packaged, and then it was sent to the Amazon warehouse. And then they repackaged in a package and added more packaging. And now I'm getting it packaged, and now I'm going to unpackage it to wrap it in more packaging so my daughter can unwrap it the package? I am the problem!

14:57

Jordan Tyler

It does. That's kind of the vibe that I was getting too when we were researching all this. I was like, oh my gosh. Even when I try to be mindful, I think the most frustrating thing for me was like, okay, so let's say I do take my used pet food bags all the way back to the retailer at the end of, you know, the month when the food bag is empty, and I put them in the bin and then I say goodbye. Right? I say, “Okay, bags. Goodbye. I hope that you make it to the recycling center and actually get recycled.” Except that like rarely actually ever happens with multilaminate plastics, which is what pet food bags are made of largely today.

15:37

Jordan Tyler

So, it's like, even you can have good intentions, you know, you can try not to shop online, you can try to, you know, do the curbside recycling or take it yourself, but it's really more of an infrastructure problem. And so, it's like, we can have the best intentions and carry those out, but the whole system is kind of broken for plastic recycling. I also learned a lot of sad things about how we export a lot of our plastic recycling to, like, developing countries and I’m like, oh, man… that seems like something we shouldn't do. But what do I know?

16:13

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Just a big womp womp.

16:14

Jordan Tyler

Womp womp. Yeah. That was kind of a that was more of a wompy womp kind of episode. But people seem to like it, and I hope at least people found it educational and helpful in deciphering some of the sustainability language that we see, like, on pet food packaging because it can be really hard to decipher.

16:34

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Mhmm. Absolutely. I'm sustainable. What does that mean? Yeah. I mean, around the holidays, it means I'm going to collect all the tissue paper and bags and bows, and I'm going to reuse them. So don't you dare write on marker who it's to. Just pass it to the person. We don't need any name tags… just kidding.

16:51

Jordan Tyler

Keep a note open on your phone. Okay?

16:53

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Yeah. Santa bag to Esther. Gotcha. Okay.

17:00

Jordan Tyler

Yeah, so, those are our top five. Again, learning about our recycling system. That was probably my least favorite learning this year and just like doing research for the podcast. I think maybe my favorite learning, not because I love this, but because I love the fact that I now know this, is that cats can get acne on their chin. You tell me that.

17:24

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Your cat, too, can get acne.

17:27

Jordan Tyler

And it's called comedones. See, I even remembered the word.

17:31

Dr. Stephanie Clark

There you go. You can, too, become a vet tech. What if you opened up, like, your own, like, store and you just, like, started, like, steaming cat chins to, like, open up the pores?

17:44

Jordan Tyler

o, actually, change of plans.:

18:01

Dr. Stephanie Clark

—where you can have purr-fect skin too.

18:04

Jordan Tyler

She got purr-fect skin too. And then maybe on the side, we can do anal gland expressions by Dr. Clark. Because I know you just love doing that.

18:14

Dr. Stephanie Clark

We should name the feline facials She Fancy. So many cats are named Fancy. I at least know three.

18:22

Jordan Tyler

Okay. I feel like… Wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't think I know any.

18:28

Dr. Stephanie Clark

What? I feel like Fancy is, like, the equivalent of, like, a Sadie in dog terms.

18:33

Jordan Tyler

Like, I feel like you're correct. Like, I want to agree with you, but that when I think about it, I don't think I know any cats with the name Fancy.

18:42

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I know I know three Fancy cats.

18:44

Jordan Tyler

Are they fancy?

18:45

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Well, they claim to be.

18:47

Jordan Tyler

Well, we'll test that down here at Ooh She Fancy Feline Facials. Anyway, what fun things or things that you wish you could unlearn from episodes this year based on what you've had to research?

19:04

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I think the first one, I'm going to have to agree. The recyclable one, like, listening to and I'm going to butcher this, and we're going to have to add it in. But hearing someone talk about, like, the most beautiful city in the world and now, like, trash and clothes are just, like, washed ashore. Like, in my brain that is seared. And I have no idea if, like, my imagination is, like, what is truly it looks like, but it can't be worse. I think this second thing, and I'm going to it had and this is more of like I I needed to know. I needed to close the loop on this. We talked about the waste that insects. What is it? Frass. And I had to leave before the end of the episode, and you guys revealed what it stands for.

19:59

Dr. Stephanie Clark

And I never closed the loop on that, and it has bothered me still.

20:04

Jordan Tyler

I'm sorry. I'm laughing because her answer, I remember it vividly, and it is not it's not the, like, the scientific answer that you probably want. It's actually just a joke.

20:16

Dr. Stephanie Clark

No. That's I was thinking it was probably going to be something inappropriate or a joke. And that's why, like, I've like to this day, I'm like, I need to, like, Reddit this, but I don't think enough people on Reddit know this to get the answer I need.

20:29

Jordan Tyler

Okay. I won't say the guest. I will keep this confidential. We joke that it means, and we might have to bleep this out, but it means frass, F-R-A-S-S from the ***. It's like… that's it? That's really it? That's it?

20:50

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I had a feeling it was, like, something related to that, but I was like, I can't find it and it's bothering me. So, yes, it's perfect. When you look up Webster definition for frass, you're like, I now know what that means.

21:03

Jordan Tyler

Essentially, it's just insect waste. But, yeah, I liked her definition. It was much more visual. You know?

21:08

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Yeah. Thank you for closing the loop on that.

21:11

Jordan Tyler

Anytime. I'm sorry for leaving you hanging for that long. I didn't realize it was keeping you up at night.

21:16

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I just didn't realize it was I mean, there's a lot of things keeping me up at night, but that was one of the, like, fleeting thoughts at, like, 3AM. I'm like, I wonder whatever frass stands for.

21:27

Jordan Tyler

And, honestly, I still don't really know, but I do know that it's basically just bug poop.

21:32

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Yeah. I mean, it's fancier than bug poop.

21:34

Jordan Tyler

Frass!

21:36

Dr. Stephanie Clark

plan for you content wise on:

21:48

Jordan Tyler

sibly make podcast content in:

22:28

Dr. Stephanie Clark

And in case you don't believe in New Year's resolutions or you feel like you have to set one to leave us an awesome review. At the end of the day, it takes two minutes. You can have a New Year's resolution to leave barking mad a phenomenal review and be done with it before January second.

22:46

Jordan Tyler

Yeah, and then you’re resolved. Your whole year is resolved pretty much.

22:51

Dr. Stephanie Clark

You have been a success.

22:55

Jordan Tyler

Okay. Really quick. Stephanie, you have, teased the fact that you don't believe in New Year's resolutions, and I would love to hear your elevator rant about this.

23:07

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Unless they're giving us a review. So aside from giving us a review, I don't believe in them.

23:12

Jordan Tyler

Everybody else's New Year's resolutions count. Stephanie's do not. Don't get it twisted.

23:20

Dr. Stephanie Clark

My thing is, one, you should be your best self at any given moment, any given day. Right? And, like, even if you, like, are not your best self and it's a Monday, guess what? Tomorrow's Tuesday. Let's do it. Right? So, like, the fact that, like, I'm going to wait twelve months to better myself, like, come on. Like, you either do or you don't. Like, don't wait for one new year, which we know we're going to miss right for at least six months to set a new you. Second, new you? I don't want a new me. Like, I've worked really hard. I don't want to start from ground zero. Third, I have enough crap to do in December. Lord knows when January hits and it is so miserably gloomy and gray and all the joy of Christmas has eked out of our souls in the Midwest… The last thing I want to do is another thing.

24:18

Jordan Tyler

I just want to take the whole month off, please. Okay. I generally agree with that. I think that's part of the reason why they say every year, like, 50% of us give up on our New Year's resolution by like the end of the first month of the year. Right? It's just not sustainable. It's not a sustainable way to build habits. And it's okay to make small incremental improvements over time. You don't have to, you know, save the world on January 1. And then if you don't by January 3, you know, you're a failure. That's just that's not how it works.

24:52

Dr. Stephanie Clark

listener for:

25:10

Jordan Tyler

We know you want it. We know you want it.

25:14

Dr. Stephanie Clark

You know what? I'm a raise the bar. Here we go. Here we go. If anyone listening can do all those things and then some and tell us about it, we will make you a one-of-a-kind Rufus plushie, personally crocheted by possibly yours truly.

25:35

Jordan Tyler

Crocheted by one of these four hands. Okay?

25:40

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Maybe.

25:42

Jordan Tyler

line Facials opening February:

26:30

Dr. Stephanie Clark

With Rufus? Yeah, sure.

26:32

Jordan Tyler

He's your favorite. I know he is.

26:34

Dr. Stephanie Clark

. So, we promised you guys in:

27:08

Jordan Tyler

Ruthless Rufus.

27:09

Dr. Stephanie Clark

What?

27:10

Jordan Tyler

Sorry. Ruthless Rufus.

27:13

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Ruthlessly Rufus.

27:15

Jordan Tyler

Yeah. Say that five times fast.

27:17

Dr. Stephanie Clark

going to bring him to you in:

27:41

Jordan Tyler

He does.

27:43

Dr. Stephanie Clark

And while you're on your journey of New Year's resolutions of liking all our social media, we will be revealing this to you.

27:51

Jordan Tyler

Yes. And his sassy snark. I'm sure you'll appreciate that too. He is a little snarky, but we love him for it.

27:58

Dr. Stephanie Clark

He's relatable, and he's personable. And he may just help teach your children one day.

28:04

Jordan Tyler

Yeah. He's just like us.

28:09

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Only hairier?

28:14

Jordan Tyler

Yeah. Can't speak for all of you, but surely he's hairier than most. Yes. But all this talk about bringing Rufus into the podcast, we would be remiss if we did not also talk about an addition to our podcast team. So, we recently hired Jacob Parker. He is here on this call, unfortunately, for him listening to everything that we're saying so that he can make us sound really amazing and smart later. But he is our post-production specialist. He is going to do amazing things for this podcast, taking it into the realm of video, making us way more fun and cool and relatable and timely on social media. So, definitely go check us out there if you're not following us already.

28:56

Jordan Tyler

things that we have to add in:

29:44

Jordan Tyler

I'm, like, having a hard time not sharing all of it because, like, I don't want to give away the whole cow, as they say. You know, I want you guys to still be surprised.

29:52

Dr. Stephanie Clark

As long as we're not giving away the milk for free, I guess.

29:54

Jordan Tyler

Well, you know.

29:57

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I'm going to write it down right here. We're going to be doing another series on the SUPERZOO show floor. So, if you're interested, get on the docket early because it's happening.

30:12

Jordan Tyler

Agree. Agree. Slots are limited this next year because Stephanie and I are taking a lunch break. Gee, dang it.

30:20

Dr. Stephanie Clark

And a bathroom break.

30:21

Jordan Tyler

Yeah. We are going to both the bathroom and to get a little snacky because, oh my gosh, that was so hard. I swear for the entire week, it wasn't until, like, Thursday of the week after SUPERZOO that I was able to, like, speak normally or, like, finish a sentence before totally losing my train of thought just because, oh my gosh, the focus and then conversation at SUPERZOO, we were locked in.

30:47

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Could you imagine if we presented all of that live? Like, how they wanted us to go live? Like…

30:53

Jordan Tyler

I was like, “No!”

30:56

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I'm like, sorry. It doesn't work. Oops. I'm not going to try.

30:59

Jordan Tyler

I was like, I don't know why the speaker won't work. Oh well!

31:02

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Yeah. Jacob, if, this happens next SUPERZOO, you can't fix the speaker. And it's nothing against you. It's just we don't have the right cords and nor does Vegas.

31:15

Jordan Tyler

ad podcast is growing. So, in:

32:10

Dr. Stephanie Clark

And thank you in advance for already setting us as your New Year's resolution. I look forward to reading everyone's reviews.

32:19

Jordan Tyler

t all recap of Barking Mad in:

32:36

Dr. Stephanie Clark

As we head into:

32:54

Jordan Tyler

We're also leveling up the show behind the scenes with more video, more social content, more ways for you to interact with us, and help shape what we cover next.

33:06

Dr. Stephanie Clark

And if you're feeling generous as you kick off the new year, consider leaving us a review. It helps us more than you know. And who knows? It may even earn you a tiny, super cute Rufus of your very own.

33:21

Jordan Tyler

re's to a smarter and spicier:

33:30

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Barking Mad. If you want to learn more about BSM Partners, please visit us at bsmpartners.net. Don't forget to subscribe on your favorite leading podcast platform or share it with a friend to stay current on the latest pet industry trends and conversations.

33:52

Jordan Tyler

We'd also like to thank our dedicated team, Ada-Miette Thomas, Neeley Boden, Kait Wright, Cady Wolf, and Dr. Katy Miller. A special shout out to Lee Ann Hagerty and Michael Johnson in support of this episode, and to David Perez for our original music in the intro and outro. See you next time.

34:18

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Ain't nobody got time, ain't nobody got time, ain't nobody got time for that!

34:22

Jordan Tyler

Oooh!

34:23

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Do you remember that?

34:24

Jordan Tyler

Was it a like a vine?

34:28

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Yeah. I got bronchitis. Ain't nobody got time for that.

34:34

Dr. Stephanie Clark

So, like, in my head, I'm picturing, like, this, like, bat dog. Like, *slurping.*

34:41

Jordan Tyler

Bat dog, bat dog, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you? Sorry. I couldn't help. I couldn't help it.

34:50

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Could you imagine that if you're, like, an avid, like, water skier and you're like, “Ah, I got carped.”

34:56

Jordan Tyler

I wonder if it's become a verb?

34:58

Dr. Stephanie Clark

First off, I mean, not Great Lakes, but if anyone is skiing in the Midwestern Riverbend, Mississippi, you deserve to be slapped.

35:11

Dr. Stephanie Clark

...is copper associated hepatopathy… Why? Hepatopathy. Hepa… Hepatopathy?

35:23

Jordan Tyler

Hepatopathy!

35:25

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Liver disease!

35:28

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Of regenerative organic agriculture... I don't know that why that word was so hard.

35:34

Jordan Tyler

It's the three words together that are hard, is what I'm finding. Because, like, you clear regenerative. Right? Which, that one's hard. Yeah. And then you have to say organic, and then you still have to say agriculture. It's like, okay.

35:47

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Instead of you're fired, you're carped.

35:50

Jordan Tyler

Forget about it.

35:51

Dr. Stephanie Clark

I'm gonna take them out to the fishes.

35:57

Jordan Tyler

You're gonna get carped, then you'll be sleeping with the fishes tonight.

36:00

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Then the green crabs are gonna come get you.

36:04

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Tell us what you got, Mike.

36:07

Jordan Tyler

Now over to you, Mike.

36:09

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Well, you see here, we're on invasive species. We should just call them walking fish! Like a walking taco. Oh…

36:20

Jordan Tyler

Okay. There's an idea. Walking fish, walking taco, walking fish taco.

36:26

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Delicious.

36:27

Jordan Tyler

I mean, that could sell.

36:28

Jordan Tyler

Now what are we talking about?

36:31

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Hang on. What episode am I on again? This isn't about kittens?

36:36

Jordan Tyler

They told me there would be kittens.

36:39

Dr. Stephanie Clark

Where's my kitten? Let my people voice their opinion...

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