I am so excited to have one of my favorite colleagues on the podcast today, and we are going to be discussing what it takes to change the game in your life. It can be scary to take a leap of faith and change jobs, careers, or anything really in life. Let’s be honest, we have a lot of beliefs about what we’re allowed and not allowed to do in business, our careers, and life. Join Coach Megan Moore and I as we bust those limiting beliefs up, and here Meg’s tried and true practices that will help you change the game.
Highlights from this episode:
(02:28) The power of the right question
(07:15) What does being up against it mean to you?
(12:52) How a curious question changed everything
(15:34) They didn’t think I would do it, but I proved them wrong…
(20:57) Taking a break before change
(25:55) What’s the right answer?
(33:21) Create the reality you want
(39:27) Work with Megan now!
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Hey, everyone, I'm Kelly Mobic, a coach and a
Unknown:leadership trainer. And I'm super passionate about helping
Unknown:you find out who you are authentically as a leader, own
Unknown:it, and go out and make an impact in your life and the
Unknown:lives of others. This world needs your leadership, your
Unknown:gifts, your unique brilliance. And I believe that real leaders
Unknown:don't wait. They create. I know firsthand that life is going to
Unknown:throw us curveballs that we're going to doubt our greatness,
Unknown:our ideas and our contributions. And my goal is that you believe
Unknown:in yourself beyond reason. And I get to be a coach and a champion
Unknown:for you each week, so that you feel inspired, motivated, and
Unknown:most important in action towards your unique impact in this
Unknown:world. So let's jump in. Hey, there, everyone, this is Coach
Unknown:Kelly, and welcome to episode 149. Of let's be honest, before
Unknown:we start pretending, I'm so excited, because like I told
Unknown:you, I have a fellow coach and colleague and dear friend and
Unknown:collaborator, and a first time guest on the podcast. I'm so
Unknown:excited. We've talked about this for quite some time. And we
Unknown:actually have some plans for some really cool episodes. But
Unknown:given our theme, this month of being up against it, I could not
Unknown:think of a better person to bring on because she has such
Unknown:incredible stories and tips and tips and strategies and all the
Unknown:things that she's going to share. She's going to bring her
Unknown:experience of being up against it. My dear friend, Meg, Megan,
Unknown:my rimor I call her coach Meg, I call her Meg. I never call her
Unknown:late for dinner. She's always on time. And so she's going to talk
Unknown:about having the power of the right question how that's helped
Unknown:her move through things. And it can also help you too. So ah,
Unknown:I've been waiting like a kid in a candy store for Meg to be
Unknown:here. So really quick, I want to let you all know and remind you
Unknown:that lift her is back. And a new cohort is going to start in
Unknown:April, on April 12, to be exact. So you're going to hear me
Unknown:remind you about that. Because if you're a woman in business,
Unknown:or do you want to start your own business, or you've been
Unknown:thinking about taking a leap, looking to design whatever's
Unknown:next for you in 2023, and you are ready to make bold and
Unknown:massive moves. You also love collaborating with highly
Unknown:committed and motivated women. Guess what, it's 100% for you.
Unknown:So click on the link in the show notes and apply today. I would
Unknown:love to support you. Let's go. Also coming in March, I have a
Unknown:three pack of empower her workshops coming it's a little
Unknown:bit different than the empower her challenge. And it's chock
Unknown:full of goodness. And we're going to talk about those in
Unknown:March. But I just wanted to tease that up right now and let
Unknown:you know. So mark your calendars be ready to listen in for those.
Unknown:They're going to be so amazing. So like I said, may I got to
Unknown:know me, gosh, two, three years ago, three about three years
Unknown:ago, I met Meg when she was taking a leap of faith and going
Unknown:back to school and y'all know my story. I took a leap of faith
Unknown:went back to school to create a career change for myself and may
Unknown:egg found that you know, something was kind of itching in
Unknown:her and she wanted something something more so she went
Unknown:through coach training, and it was TCE, which is y'all have
Unknown:heard her CAMI McLarens coach training program. Cami has been
Unknown:on the podcast quite a few times. As a matter of fact, I
Unknown:got to meet Meg, when she was a student in there and then I had
Unknown:the opportunity to also work with her further as she was part
Unknown:of the coaching staff helping to grow coaches, like literally
Unknown:grow coaches. I think we want to say that right? Helping them
Unknown:become coaches, a mazing and I got to work with her there. We
Unknown:have worked together in the baller retreats, y'all heard me
Unknown:talk about baller alley golf and all that. So we've gotten to
Unknown:play a lot together and we are very committed to more of that.
Unknown:So she's amazing. I cannot wait for you guys to experience Meg.
Unknown:She's literally one of my favorite coaches. She's
Unknown:brilliant. And I'm so excited to see her. So let me give you a
Unknown:little bit about meg. Meg is a risk taker. She's a coach. She's
Unknown:also an attorney, an educator, a writer and inspire her and a
Unknown:catalyst for change. Y'all know I love Meg. She's a catalyst for
Unknown:change. She supports hard working overworked professionals
Unknown:and the organizations they work for so that they achieve their
Unknown:next evolution. She believes you have the answers that you need.
Unknown:And she has the right questions so you can unlock those answers.
Unknown:At pivotal moments in Meg's life. Someone asked her The
Unknown:right question, which for Meg opened up possibilities so that
Unknown:she could get the results she wanted. Now, Meg pays that
Unknown:forward by partnering with people and organizations so they
Unknown:can see the possibility and create the lives and businesses
Unknown:they want. That is the power of the right question. And that is,
Unknown:my dear friend, Meg Moore. Meg. Welcome to the podcast. I am so
Unknown:excited. You're here.
Unknown:Hi, I'm so excited to be here.
Unknown:Yes. The day has come, Meg, here we are. So make I know I just
Unknown:shared a little bit about you. But can you from your own words
Unknown:or your own mouth? Can you give us a little background of you
Unknown:and remind our friends like what you do right now?
Unknown:Yeah, absolutely. I will use my mouth and my own words. So you
Unknown:hit the nail on the head. I am a coach. And I work with all sorts
Unknown:of professionals in height. My main focus is with attorneys.
Unknown:Because I just came up with this phrase recently, and I'm loving
Unknown:it. I used to be a full time attorney and I worked at firms
Unknown:and I ran my own practice. Now being an attorney as my side
Unknown:hustle. Being a coach, and working with attorneys and law
Unknown:firms or legal organizations, that's my main job, my main
Unknown:responsibility. And that's my main hustle. So I do a little
Unknown:bit of legal practice on the side and a lot of coaching and
Unknown:work with professionals of all sorts. But many, many attorneys
Unknown:and legal organizations are in there as well.
Unknown:That's amazing. I love how you put that it's like, my full time
Unknown:gig is now my side hustle. And here is where I'm like, pouring
Unknown:so much energy into supporting professionals having what they
Unknown:want in their lives. I think it's yeah, it's incredible. And
Unknown:so you all know that we have talked about in the podcast this
Unknown:month, and Meg listens to the podcast. So this is not a
Unknown:surprise to her, we have been talking about what it means to
Unknown:be up against it. We've talked about we've talked about a
Unknown:little self love this month, too. And we also last week,
Unknown:we're talking about fearing courage, and you know, they all
Unknown:sort of go wrapped up in together. So maybe I'm curious
Unknown:because I was able to share with my friends here, what it means
Unknown:to me to be up against it. But for you, what does being up
Unknown:against it mean to you?
Unknown:You know, I think being up against it is when you're faced
Unknown:with the challenge, right? There's something happening when
Unknown:I'm working with clients, and often for me, it's career
Unknown:related, but that that's not it's not limited to that it
Unknown:could be being up against it in a relationship, being up against
Unknown:it with yourself. Maybe there's something you want for yourself,
Unknown:that's not career related. But for me, when you're up against
Unknown:it, there's some sort of resistance happening. Like
Unknown:there's a I know we're not on video, but like I'm pushing my
Unknown:hands together, like there's a push right? Against, like,
Unknown:here's this thing I want and here's me trying to get it but
Unknown:there's resistance back and forth. Sometimes I think being
Unknown:up against it is invigorating, right? You're like, Oh, I'm
Unknown:gonna go. Sometimes it is the opposite of that. It feels
Unknown:defeating, you're exhausted. I know you talk Kelly a lot about
Unknown:the how of it like we get exhausted because we don't know
Unknown:how. And so we're up against it, because we're trying to figure
Unknown:out how and and then having to.go back and be like wait a
Unknown:minute why. And I think ultimately being up against it
Unknown:is when you're noticing like there's something you want, and
Unknown:you're not you're not getting it like you're you feel like you're
Unknown:not getting it and so it's that moment of like, like I said,
Unknown:putting those hands together have like that tension of like,
Unknown:I want this thing but I can't break through
Unknown:yet such a great distinction. I want the thing, but I can't seem
Unknown:to break through and up against it feels different for people,
Unknown:you know, for me a lot of times when I'm up against it, and I go
Unknown:into like, what's the emotion that's happening right now for
Unknown:me, it's not always invigorating. I'm just gonna say
Unknown:but sometimes it is like, I got that when you said that. I
Unknown:really did. I think when I jumped out of a plane, I was up
Unknown:against it. And then I jumped and it was invigorating. right
Unknown:like so I can get what that meant. Right? That I know
Unknown:sometimes for me, it's it's shoot, I'm scared. That's what's
Unknown:happening. Like, you know, that's the thing that's the
Unknown:clue. And Meg is so so true. Y'all know that like if I'm ever
Unknown:like how how how I am fully up against it versus like why why
Unknown:why why why? Okay, yeah, yeah. Oh, that was such a thank you
Unknown:mate for sharing that because it is different for people. It's a
Unknown:little bit different. And I would encourage everyone like
Unknown:stop for a moment and think about what does that mean to me
Unknown:when I'm up against it like what what's happening and what does
Unknown:that mean and how does it feel? Yeah,
Unknown:I think that question about how does it feel that but got me
Unknown:thinking too, I think when I am really up against it is also
Unknown:when I don't believe in myself or I have like I don't Believe,
Unknown:I don't believe I can achieve the thing be the thing get the
Unknown:thing. I think there's like a, there's a feeling of, of not
Unknown:being able to so not not believing in myself. I don't
Unknown:know, doubt. I don't know what that the one word description of
Unknown:that is, but that for me, I know we'll talk a little bit about
Unknown:that later. But it is that thought of like, I'm not, I'm
Unknown:not ever going to get there. And now up against it.
Unknown:Oh, yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head. I'm not
Unknown:believing in myself right now. And a belief is nothing but a
Unknown:feeling of certainty. That's what a belief is, right? So
Unknown:that's a beautiful description. If I'm not believing in myself,
Unknown:well, then certainly, I'm probably feeling up against it.
Unknown:And so there's an opportunity for some shifts, there's an
Unknown:opportunity to get some support, and move through that 100%. Now,
Unknown:you all Meg has some really great stories that she has
Unknown:agreed to share with you all on times when she has been up
Unknown:against it. And I really can't wait for you to hear them. So
Unknown:Meg, can you she has three stories. So we're gonna go with
Unknown:them three stories. And we love threes here. So three stories.
Unknown:So I know, right? So I get that from my friend, Paige. Paige is
Unknown:all about the threes. And I'm like, threes are good. I love
Unknown:threes.
Unknown:So there's a rule of three and comedy. There is a rule
Unknown:of three in comedy. Yep. Oh, that's a whole other episode may
Unknown:write that down. Okay, here we go. Okay, so maybe can you
Unknown:please share with us a time where you like one of the
Unknown:stories where you have felt up against it?
Unknown:Yeah. And I'll preface it with this. This is where the power of
Unknown:the right question comes from. And I was not aware of that at
Unknown:the time that was happening. And in fact, I wasn't aware of it
Unknown:until I was launching this business. And I was working with
Unknown:a marketing expert on figuring out like my tagline. And that
Unknown:person said to me, it sounds like there's been a number of
Unknown:pivotal moments where someone's asked you a question, and it's
Unknown:changed the trajectory of your life. And I was like, Oh, man.
Unknown:Yes, that's yeah. So I'm sure there's been many more instances
Unknown:of this. But the first one I can think of is, when I was in
Unknown:college, I got into a little bit of trouble with alcohol in my
Unknown:room. And I was not yet 21. And maybe I was a resident
Unknown:assistant. And I won't go into the whole story, but the ending
Unknown:of that portion of the story is I was let go, or is, we might
Unknown:say fired from that job. Yeah. And it was really devastating
Unknown:for a number of reasons that I'm not just devastating. I was sad.
Unknown:I had made a good group of friends. I was super
Unknown:embarrassed. And I felt just a lot of shame around it. Yeah.
Unknown:And then one of my I have four older sisters, that could also
Unknown:be its own podcast episode. Oh, write that down. And the more
Unknown:girls that could actually be a great podcast, anyone else? So I
Unknown:have four older sisters. And you know, and I'm, I got fired right
Unknown:before the holiday break. And so one of my sisters said to me,
Unknown:Well, would you want to come like maybe do you want to take a
Unknown:semester off and regroup and come and live in Chicago? She,
Unknown:where she lived and lived with her? And I immediately was like,
Unknown:no, because my my brain is no, I go to school. I've got four
Unknown:years, and I'm going to finish. And I didn't even consider, I
Unknown:would just didn't consider it when she asked it. And then we
Unknown:ended that conversation or got off the phone, maybe we were in
Unknown:person, I can't remember if we were together or not. And then a
Unknown:few days went by, and I was like, I could use a break. I
Unknown:could use some time off. And I know, I'll come back to school.
Unknown:And at the time I lived in Florida. I was at the University
Unknown:of Florida Go Gators. For your for your fans who aren't Gator
Unknown:fans. That's okay. Keep listening to coach Kelly. And
Unknown:for those of you who aren't Gator fans Go Gators. It was a
Unknown:lot. You know, that was a big I would leave you know where I was
Unknown:living and go to Chicago in this big city. And I also love
Unknown:Chicago. And so her asking me that question. I would never
Unknown:have said I'm going to take a semester off. Sure. She asked me
Unknown:the question. And come January Guess what? Yeah, living in
Unknown:Chicago.
Unknown:It's amazing. It's amazing. And you know, what's so interesting,
Unknown:too, is I would imagine that your sister probably didn't
Unknown:necessarily have an agenda. Do you know what I mean? I think
Unknown:right, like listening to you and asking you what what Megan, I
Unknown:often refer to as a curious question that the curious
Unknown:questions are oftentimes the right question. Right. And so by
Unknown:her being with you, you know, seeing where you were, and
Unknown:offering you a new possibility through a question not telling,
Unknown:right not telling you. Hey, Meg, this is what you should do. You
Unknown:should take a semester off huge Kamala With, right, but
Unknown:literally being with you where you were, and asking you a
Unknown:powerful and curious question. Yeah, absolutely. Right. And how
Unknown:we know it is is because look what makes sense. At first, it
Unknown:was like, No, this is the way this is my these are my rules.
Unknown:This is how I do it. And as she really stopped to consider what
Unknown:her sister asked her, she realized, yeah, actually a break
Unknown:would serve me. And she could get into what that might start
Unknown:to look like. That is huge. That was huge.
Unknown:And I'll share that when I left a number of my friends were
Unknown:like, don't go you're never going to come back. Sure. I
Unknown:there was no doubt in my mind, I would come back to school. When
Unknown:I got back. I got my button gear, I ended up graduating with
Unknown:honors, I really worked hard my last year, my last year and that
Unknown:summer, in school to get really good grades and get in graduate
Unknown:with honors, like it really made a change in my in my life in in
Unknown:undergrad. So yeah,
Unknown:that's incredible. And like you didn't even know that was
Unknown:possible. Right. Right. And so wow, that's huge. That's huge.
Unknown:That's great. I Yeah, that's amazing. And well done. Right,
Unknown:like well done in knowing like, I know, because there's always
Unknown:the people out there that have the opinion don't do it. We I
Unknown:call them the shutters. The shutters? Right, which often
Unknown:they have positive intent, like may Don't you know, no one ever
Unknown:comes back when they leave and makes like I do. And not only do
Unknown:I come back, but I'm going to do it really well. And I'm going to
Unknown:I'm going to graduate with honors. And so you did that's
Unknown:incredible. I love that I love that. Well done mag well done.
Unknown:Yes, Dean yourself trusting yourself. That's another part of
Unknown:that. That's another part of that. What's another story may.
Unknown:And so the next time again, that stands out to me that this
Unknown:happened. It was this it also, maybe this happens a lot when
Unknown:I'm embarrassed. The third story isn't about being embarrassed.
Unknown:But so in 2003, my father passed away. And with his passing, he
Unknown:was younger ages 73. But young, for sure. I guess it depends on
Unknown:one's perspective. And so I was just about to turn 30. And after
Unknown:he died, I was like, I want to do something different with my
Unknown:life for myriad reasons. And so I was like, I'm going to apply
Unknown:to law school. So I applied to loss, I did a lot of research
Unknown:and reach the decision about law school, I applied to three
Unknown:different schools and the job that I was currently in,
Unknown:everyone knew I was I was gonna go to law school like it when it
Unknown:was okay, like, that was exciting thing. People were
Unknown:happy for me, there wasn't a lot of opportunity for me to be
Unknown:upwardly mobile in that particular company. So when
Unknown:everyone knew, wow, come, I'm gonna say like June or July of
Unknown:2004. When you're getting your responses. Well, you'll be
Unknown:darned Kelly, if I didn't get accepted to any of the schools I
Unknown:applied to. So now, I'm in a job that I really wanted to leave.
Unknown:Okay. I have told everyone I'm going to law school. And now
Unknown:people are asking like so when are you leaving? What's
Unknown:happening? And I'm like, embarrassed like, I don't really
Unknown:remember the feeling of embarrassment. I didn't know I
Unknown:was to be like, Oh, I didn't I didn't get in. At the time. I
Unknown:was working with the therapist. And I was in therapy kvetching
Unknown:about, I didn't get in and now I'm stuck in this job really
Unknown:negative and I'm stuck in this job, blah, blah, blah. You know,
Unknown:just really like, feeling stuck. And she says to me sort of a
Unknown:question, but it was a sounds like a reflection. She was like,
Unknown:Oh, it sounds like you've you feel like you can't quit your
Unknown:job anyway. And I it's a moment that I recall feeling like you
Unknown:know, you know, when you see the picture where the light bulb
Unknown:goes off? Oh, totally. Yeah, I felt in my body. Like I sat up
Unknown:the light bulb exploded. I mean, I was like, things and she too.
Unknown:I want to point out she did not have an agenda. This woman
Unknown:didn't care whether I stayed at work, left work, reapply to law
Unknown:school. She didn't care. She just was reflecting to me. Hey,
Unknown:does this sound right? It sounds like you feel like you have to
Unknown:stay. You can't quit. lightbulb explodes and I was like, Oh my I
Unknown:can quit my job. Yes. I don't have to say yes. And so I did.
Unknown:And I took a four month cross country road trip and my mini
Unknown:cooper again. That's a whole other episode. I traveled put
Unknown:11,000 miles on my car. I saw friends and family. I stayed by
Unknown:myself. I stayed at a youth hostel like I it was just this
Unknown:amazing trip. I reapplied to law school. I got a consulting gig
Unknown:while I was on the road, and then went to law school in 2005
Unknown:instead of in 2004.
Unknown:Amazing. Amazing and I love that too because again, the right
Unknown:question is never like, Megan, I both want y'all to know that the
Unknown:right question is not one that you have manufactured. Okay,
Unknown:notice what Meg just said, the therapist didn't have, she
Unknown:didn't have an agenda. She literally was holding up a
Unknown:mirror for Meg is what she was doing by reflecting what she
Unknown:heard. You know, it sounds like, you don't feel like you can quit
Unknown:like, it sounds like you don't think you can leave this job.
Unknown:Because that's what Meg was saying. And so literally by
Unknown:holding that mirror up, and literally by being with Meg,
Unknown:staying curious, and reflecting, we call that holding up a
Unknown:mirror. Meg have this amazing, like visceral experience, right?
Unknown:Like, did you all I could feel that like the light bulb go
Unknown:through her body and up like Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing,
Unknown:and then created an extraordinary adventure. It's
Unknown:true. And it wasn't
Unknown:I didn't, I don't also get I didn't Well, I could have but I
Unknown:didn't like, leave her office and file my resignation letter.
Unknown:I just had this moment of like,
Unknown:I can choose. Sure. Yeah,
Unknown:I have an option. And I don't want to stay where I am right
Unknown:now. I'm not. It's not I'm not happy here. I'm going to get my
Unknown:where we talked about ducks earlier, get my ducks in a row
Unknown:and make a change. And yes, and what a wonderful thing that I
Unknown:have that happened. And I created and all of that from
Unknown:from that one. Like, hey, it sounds like this. Is that
Unknown:right? Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah. It's amazing. And like, it's not
Unknown:like a movie where you get the light bulb, and you just go out.
Unknown:And the next thing you know, you're on an adventure, like
Unknown:Mike said. But the important part that I love that you said
Unknown:make is like suddenly that light bulb for me was I'm at choice.
Unknown:I'm at choice. I can make some choices. And then get curious
Unknown:about what is it that I want to do next? And I'll bet tell me
Unknown:mag where there's some shooters in this that were like, What are
Unknown:you doing? Oh, for sure. Right? You
Unknown:are going to pay for that? What? Are you going to deplete your
Unknown:savings?
Unknown:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yes, yes, I am. As a matter of fact. So.
Unknown:And, and she also found ways she consulted while she was on the
Unknown:road. So you know, she generated income while she was on the
Unknown:road. And then also, guess what? She got to apply for a lot
Unknown:because there's no end to where you can apply. Right? So she
Unknown:went again, she you don't make what's so interesting to me is
Unknown:it's almost like, you know what, I took another break, like,
Unknown:like, do you remember, like, when you were at the university,
Unknown:and then you took the break, and you went to Chicago so that you
Unknown:could get clear, you know, take a break, went back and then
Unknown:slayed. It's kind of the same thing here. Like what I'm
Unknown:hearing? I mean, I don't know that you. You're not thinking
Unknown:that at the time, but in looking at it. It's like, oh, there's
Unknown:something about giving yourself that opportunity to pause. Yeah,
Unknown:take a break. Yeah. It's incredible. That's amazing.
Unknown:That's amazing. I love this story. I know you have another
Unknown:one. And I got to hear it. Tell that. Can you tell us here?
Unknown:Hopefully. So my third story now I think about does my third
Unknown:story involve a break? And now I'm like, No, I wish I'd taken a
Unknown:little break. But I did. So my third story is I was working
Unknown:with a coach. I had been practicing law at the time for
Unknown:eight, eight and a half years, nine years. And I was at a firm
Unknown:where I really loved my colleagues. But the work was
Unknown:like depleting me I was stressed I was working long hours, I was
Unknown:working on vacations. The story of many attorneys lives again,
Unknown:feeling like I don't have choices. And so I went to I've
Unknown:started working with the lovely CAMI McLaren. I will give her a
Unknown:shout out now. Yeah. And and initially kind of working on can
Unknown:I be happy where I am like really recognizing I have
Unknown:choices, and I'm choosing this job. There are things I don't
Unknown:like about it, but I am choosing to be here. And for me, it
Unknown:became clear that there was things that couldn't change at
Unknown:that firm that I did not have control over that would not
Unknown:change. So it wasn't the right fit for me anymore. So then I
Unknown:think about what's next. What's next. And I recall saying
Unknown:something along the lines of this like, well, let's see. It
Unknown:could be I could go to another firm. I could go back to school.
Unknown:I mean, I can't open my own law practice. A little modal. And
Unknown:CAMI was like hey, I'm just one second. Yeah. And again, no
Unknown:agenda. She didn't. She was invested in me changing my life.
Unknown:Sure. Not in how I went about it. Sure. Her question was, why
Unknown:don't you think you can open your own law practice? Yeah. And
Unknown:I said, Well, I don't know how. And she said, sounds like you
Unknown:have a belief that attorneys know how to run their businesses
Unknown:before they open law practices, and I burst out laughing for
Unknown:those attorneys that might be listening or those of you who
Unknown:work with attorneys, you know, that is actually not true. Many
Unknown:attorneys do not know how to run their business. And it's chaos
Unknown:sometimes. So I just burst out laughing and I was like,
Unknown:actually, no, that's not true. And so that question I wasn't
Unknown:the same light bulb. I'm going to open my own practice but that
Unknown:question, and then the reflection of sounds like you
Unknown:believe you have to know How beforehand allowed me to pause
Unknown:and say, I'm going to explore that option along with a number
Unknown:of other options. That is, ultimately the reason I share
Unknown:the story is that is ultimately what I decided to do was to open
Unknown:up my own practice. And again, it was a life changer, game
Unknown:changer.
Unknown:It's amazing, because these are the distinctions when you'll
Unknown:those three stories you could tell where Meg was up against it
Unknown:in very different ways, right? Very different ways. And
Unknown:somebody was being with her from a place of being curious, right?
Unknown:Being curious, really listening to Meg, and one was her sister,
Unknown:one was a therapist, and one was her coach, Coach Kenny, and
Unknown:literally, again, no agenda, rather a commitment to Meg, and
Unknown:believing in her. That's really That's it. Okay. And so, when
Unknown:you hear, make, speak to the power of the right question,
Unknown:please here and this is true. Like, I know this about meg. And
Unknown:also being a coach. You know, I always giggle sometimes when a
Unknown:client's like, I'm not sure if this is the answer you're
Unknown:looking for. And I'm like, yeah, no, I don't know is looking for
Unknown:your answer your answer, right? Because we get up against it
Unknown:even when we're being coached. Like, is this the right one?
Unknown:Right, like, we that's what happens. But here's the thing.
Unknown:The question is never procured. It's never designed. It's never
Unknown:like, let me make sure I'm gonna ask the right thing. It's
Unknown:literally a moment where you've connected. You've heard and
Unknown:you've asked a question, either from reflecting, or what you're
Unknown:hearing. Yep, it sounds like you can't that would be a question a
Unknown:coach is probably going to ask you a question about, and then
Unknown:in that moment, Meg is able to go wait a second. Oh, now a new
Unknown:possibility opens up. So that's why I love so much having made
Unknown:here be because the power of the right question is her jam. And
Unknown:in coaches all ask questions. I don't want to say that No. Limit
Unknown:ask the question. It's that it's it's made. It's just like, it's
Unknown:at her core, right? It's on Instagram, she is the power of
Unknown:the right question you should all go for. Let me not should
Unknown:please go follow vague. Okay. Because the power of the right
Unknown:question can make it you can feel some pressure. Please
Unknown:don't. Please don't. It's literally asking a question.
Unknown:With no agenda.
Unknown:I think the other thing I would add to that Kelly is I always I
Unknown:suspect, sometimes I really hit the nail on the head. When I ask
Unknown:a question. And my client says this. Oh, you're right. I have a
Unknown:smile on my face. Like I'm right. Like, Oh, that's funny,
Unknown:because I don't have an agenda like so if I'm reflecting or
Unknown:asking like, Oh, so you don't want to invest in your in your
Unknown:business? Yeah. Oh, my gosh, you're right. But I do. You're
Unknown:right, I should start investing in my business. And I'm, like,
Unknown:interesting that that's shifted that for you? Because I don't it
Unknown:doesn't. I'm curious about you. It's also okay, if you say,
Unknown:Yeah, I don't I don't want to do that right now. And that's
Unknown:what's causing the stress or whatever it is. But normally,
Unknown:clients say, Oh, you're right. I'm like, That was a good
Unknown:question. Because they don't even recognize it's them. That
Unknown:I'm coming up with the idea.
Unknown:That's just it. Because I think sometimes when they when, when a
Unknown:client says you're right, they're essentially like saying
Unknown:to themselves, Oh, I'm right. Like, I haven't considered this
Unknown:right. Again, it's that mere factor, you know, it's amazing.
Unknown:Absolutely. Make I am curious how you are currently up against
Unknown:it right now. And I and make knew this question was coming.
Unknown:It's one of the reasons I brought her on today's episode,
Unknown:because we talk all the time. So yes, how are you currently up
Unknown:against it right now?
Unknown:Yeah, I've been thinking about this. Because the the coachee
Unknown:businesswoman in me, like wants to make like a joke or protect
Unknown:myself. Sure. vulnerably you know, running my own business is
Unknown:challenging. It's been financially challenging last
Unknown:year, and this year, it's impacted my income, you know, my
Unknown:ability to earn but also I'm married, and we have a we have a
Unknown:home and things that we want to do with our lives. And, and and
Unknown:in part, what what is happening with my business impacts, like
Unknown:the way we live our lives and makes, I think, for many
Unknown:marriages, you know, we can be up against it financial
Unknown:discussions forever. No, very rarely, like, let's talk about
Unknown:that. So I think that but the reason I know I'm up against it,
Unknown:is this questioning of myself of like, is this the right thing?
Unknown:Can I do it? And that and noticing I'm not believing in
Unknown:myself? Like I don't I'm not sure I believe it. And so really
Unknown:feeling that right now. Knowing how much I love the work I'm
Unknown:doing. Yeah, and that It's scary. I'm up against it right
Unknown:now in enrollment and in trusting myself to put myself
Unknown:out there and trusting that what I need will come.
Unknown:Yes, yes. And I thank you, Meg for being willing to be
Unknown:vulnerable and share that. Because for those of you out
Unknown:there they are listening. I know when I talked about this, I was
Unknown:giving you more from a health like where I'm up against it
Unknown:health wise. And as as an entrepreneur, I 100% can relate
Unknown:to where Meg is right now many times and you you've heard me
Unknown:say it in different ways. I know out there for all of you that
Unknown:are entrepreneurs that listen to this are probably going Oh, my
Unknown:goodness, yes, ma'am. I feel that I feel you. Yes. Stick with
Unknown:it, you know, because that is a real thing. That's that's a real
Unknown:thing. And whether you're in business for yourself, and when
Unknown:you are in business for yourself, and you heard make
Unknown:said, Listen, I'm I have a partner, I'm married. And we
Unknown:have agreements, right? Like, she, there's no falling back. I
Unknown:remember someone said that to me one time I like, well, at least
Unknown:you know, if you're making a career change, you can fall back
Unknown:on your husband. I'm like, Wait, let's go get him really quick
Unknown:and watch him. Let's let's get his response to that.
Unknown:Right. And so he wrote on this episode, that he would have a
Unknown:similar reaction.
Unknown:No, no, because we we now we have conversations we make
Unknown:agree. That's right. And that's what happens. And I'll tell you,
Unknown:it's fascinating how we can turn on ourselves so incredibly
Unknown:quickly, when that comes up and like like maybe you're saying is
Unknown:that I'm not trusting myself? Or maybe I don't have this belief
Unknown:in myself right now in this moment. And so you know those
Unknown:things. In here's what I know about meg Meg is gonna she she
Unknown:will go the course. She will create, she will challenge
Unknown:herself. She will get coached. She she will make it happen.
Unknown:There's no like, I have zero doubt. And I know what Meg is up
Unknown:to creating this year. And it's happening like I have zero doubt
Unknown:and I believe in Meg beyond reason and show the things that
Unknown:support sometimes you got to have some some some people that
Unknown:believe in you beyond reason before, then you started Okay,
Unknown:now maybe I do too. All right, that lady Yeah,
Unknown:absolutely. Just hearing you. I'm like, Okay, I need I need a
Unknown:little Kelly on my shoulder.
Unknown:Yeah, I got you. I'm right there. I'm right there. But in
Unknown:you know, here's the thing, it's the three things. It's the three
Unknown:things that we talked about, in up against it is mindset,
Unknown:belief, and action. Okay, those are the three tried and true. It
Unknown:I just don't know any other way to move through it. And Meg,
Unknown:Meg, and I can see each other right now. And she's nodding her
Unknown:head because she knows like, this is this is, those are the
Unknown:three things she's working on. Right? Like, where's my mindset
Unknown:today? And like, where is my belief today? Where where is it?
Unknown:Is it limiting me? Is it enhancing me? Right? And then
Unknown:Where must I act? So like, that's the formula. That's the
Unknown:formula and it sometimes feels like you're pushing a boulder up
Unknown:a hill, until you get there. Right. So, man, I just have to
Unknown:say that one of the things that I know without a shadow of a
Unknown:doubt, that makes you a masterful and exceptional coach
Unknown:is because you are willing to be up against it, and challenge
Unknown:yourself and keep going and moving.
Unknown:Yeah, I mean, it's it's absolutely and it's I appreciate
Unknown:you said to whether you're an entrepreneur, or like I said, I
Unknown:work with a lot of attorneys you're at, you know, you're it's
Unknown:not just for entrepreneurs, it may be all of our experiences
Unknown:are slightly different. But that idea of like, I love that image,
Unknown:I'm pushing this boulder up a hill, whether you're working
Unknown:toward a promotion, trying to decide what's next. Or maybe you
Unknown:want to go back to school, all of those things, it can be
Unknown:scary, especially when it feels like you're not getting the
Unknown:results you want. You're getting results, but not the ones not
Unknown:the ones you want. Yeah, it's can be very, very challenging to
Unknown:feel that way and to Vic to not figure out how but like reignite
Unknown:the belief in yourself like
Unknown:yes, yeah, yes. Yes. It's so true. It's like we can spend a
Unknown:lot of time like, let me figure out the how, how, how, listen,
Unknown:if we all knew the house, then we'd have its life would be so
Unknown:boring. If we knew all the house right? But I think that where
Unknown:you're going Megan working with that mindset and belief and
Unknown:acting and constantly challenging. Guess what's going
Unknown:to happen? The house showing up? Yep, the house shows up. Now.
Unknown:This is not to say that make doesn't have a plan. She has a
Unknown:plan, right mag. She has stress. I do. Yeah, she has a plan. She
Unknown:has strategies. She's you know resourceful, all of that. And
Unknown:takes a lot of courage to admit when we are up against it in in
Unknown:whatever ways like Megan's saying, what I would love for
Unknown:you all to hear make, I'm going to ask you this question,
Unknown:because I know you are so excellent, excellent at this,
Unknown:how do you help others as a coach move from being up against
Unknown:it to creating the realities that they want? Yeah,
Unknown:you know, I think, really what we've been hitting on throughout
Unknown:our conversation today, Kelly, one of it is really believing
Unknown:that the person I'm my client has the answers or confined
Unknown:them, or has the resources may need to find the resource, it
Unknown:might be an internal resource, or an external resource, right?
Unknown:But really coming from a place of I'm not fixing anyone, people
Unknown:are coming to me that are saying, I want to create more
Unknown:harmony between work and personal life, I want to make
Unknown:partner at my law firm, I want to open my own business, I want
Unknown:to change careers, right? They're coming to me with that.
Unknown:So being very present with them, being very curious, and asking
Unknown:lots of questions about how they feel what's getting in their
Unknown:way. What did they see, you know, and you know, we have
Unknown:crazy conversations and coaching like about, well, you know, it
Unknown:sounds like you got that voice in your head that's telling you
Unknown:you can't you know, let's name that voice, you know, and like
Unknown:it might be Tammy or Bernard or whatever it is, you know, that
Unknown:we really tap into that. That's part of it is the exploration
Unknown:and tapping into what's really happening. Again, I'm talking my
Unknown:hands so much, I'm laughing because we're on video, but like
Unknown:touch I'm, maybe you can hear it, I'm touching my heart,
Unknown:right? Like a really tapping into that. And of course, also a
Unknown:plan. We create a coaching plan. We have clear outcomes of what
Unknown:you want. And then we look at that. And I you said this
Unknown:earlier, and it reminds me when I was applying to law school, it
Unknown:doesn't always happen the first time, sometimes you met, you
Unknown:said, this is what I'm going to do and you do it. And you don't
Unknown:get the results. And you have to go again. Yeah, you have to go
Unknown:again. Or you don't do it and you go again. And I have that
Unknown:really as a coach taking a stand with people to help them support
Unknown:them going again, and figuring out really what it is that they
Unknown:want and what works best for them. Because what works for me
Unknown:might not work for you.
Unknown:Yeah, so true. So true. So brilliant. It's so brilliant.
Unknown:And it's it's it's effective. It's effective. I love the part
Unknown:where you said, Listen, what works for me may not work for
Unknown:you, which creates that distinction in that what Megan's
Unknown:saying is, you know, as coaches, we know, you have your answer.
Unknown:And what she does so beautifully is pull that answer out, right,
Unknown:pull that answer out. And here's what we also know is, you're
Unknown:going to be more apt to take action on your answer than
Unknown:anyone elses. That's just a fact. No motors in here, no.
Unknown:shudders no shudders in here, make what are some of the ways
Unknown:that people can work with you?
Unknown:That's such a good question. Thank you What a powerful
Unknown:question. So right now, there's three main ways people can work
Unknown:with me. One way is through group coaching, and I'm
Unknown:launching the powerful pivot in late March, early April. And
Unknown:that's a small group coaching for women who are up against it
Unknown:and ready, they're stuck or ready for a change. So that's
Unknown:one way another way as I have space right now, for individual
Unknown:coaching clients. So if you're not, if that's something that
Unknown:you feel excited about, or feel like, it could be a good fit for
Unknown:you, let's do it. And then the third way is I speak a lot. In
Unknown:fact, tomorrow, I'm speaking at a law firm on time and energy
Unknown:management for attorneys. So I'm also available to come in and
Unknown:support your organization, maybe through a one off workshop, or
Unknown:maybe through a series of workshops, to help your team get
Unknown:what you want, or the company wants or what the team wants to
Unknown:help them get there. So those are the three main ways. And the
Unknown:other thing I'm doing this year that is a little different is
Unknown:maybe one a deep dive, you're not really sure what's next, and
Unknown:you're not like you're in that space of I want to explore that
Unknown:small piece of it. Let's work together and we can do a deep
Unknown:dive together, which would be more of like a half day of just
Unknown:being together and almost like a half day to develop. What do you
Unknown:really want? Why do you want it and then getting it into a plan
Unknown:format, and maybe then that goes on to more coaching or maybe
Unknown:you've got what you need, and you move on. So that's
Unknown:individual as well, but just a slightly different way that I
Unknown:offer services.
Unknown:Nice. That's amazing. That's amazing. And how, how can people
Unknown:get in touch with you?
Unknown:So different ways? One, you can sign up for my newsletter. So if
Unknown:you go to my website, Megan Moore inc.com. It pops up when
Unknown:you get to the website and that's also at the bottom of the
Unknown:page to sign up for my newsletter. I send newsletters
Unknown:two to three times a month, not a ton but I'm send them like
Unknown:here's what's up with me. Here's what I'm offering or here's a
Unknown:good tip or trick for you can follow me on at power of the
Unknown:right question on Instagram. And that's loaded with Have fun fun
Unknown:tips and tricks I every Friday I try to leave my followers with
Unknown:like a little coaching tip or hack they can use moving
Unknown:forward. And then of course contact me directly. I'm at
Unknown:Meghan, Meghan more inc.com Reach out to me, we can schedule
Unknown:a complimentary exploration call and see what might be the right
Unknown:fit for you.
Unknown:I love it. I love it. Meg is a great coach, I highly encourage
Unknown:you connect with her. There was something that you heard today
Unknown:that you're like, huh, reach out to her. She's I have been
Unknown:coached by Meg. I've been coached by Megan, she is a
Unknown:fantastic coach. So I want to let y'all know, I want to remind
Unknown:you everything that makes said if you were like, like trying to
Unknown:get it all written down, super quick not to worry, everything
Unknown:is in the show notes. So you can go right over there, click on
Unknown:that they will also be on my website. So everything that she
Unknown:just said, we got you, we got you, Meg, I am so grateful that
Unknown:you came on the podcast because we talk about these things all
Unknown:the time. And so I'm so happy that you could share these with
Unknown:my friends so that they could get a different perspective on
Unknown:being up against it and how really and truly having someone
Unknown:asked you the right question can be so powerful to help you move.
Unknown:And so you know, here's the thing, listen to what people are
Unknown:asking, not telling you asking you asking you because it's so
Unknown:important, and make being vulnerable and sharing your
Unknown:stories. I am so grateful. You are amazing. And I said I have
Unknown:no not one in not not a shadow of a doubt. I believe in you.
Unknown:And I know this is going to be an epic year. And thank you for
Unknown:coming in here and sharing sharing your stories and your
Unknown:wisdom. They are amazing. Thank you for being here.
Unknown:Thank you so much, Kelly. It was such a such a treat and a
Unknown:pleasure. And I'm Yeah, I just had a great time. And thank you
Unknown:for you know, inviting me on. It's been awesome.
Unknown:Yes. Okay. Hey, you guys. So remember, you have a choice to
Unknown:lead your life or follow your circumstance, or circumstances.
Unknown:Life is about knowing your passion, your purpose, your
Unknown:values. Sometimes you don't know them all at the same time. But
Unknown:give yourself permission to lean in and find out so that you can
Unknown:create an impact in your life, and also the lives of others.
Unknown:Because remember, who emerges from taking the lead in their
Unknown:life are going to be authentic, they're going to be vulnerable,
Unknown:like Meg was here today, and courageous and slaying the
Unknown:things that they want in their life. I gotta tell you, it is
Unknown:not always going to look the way you think it's going to or
Unknown:suppose to, just doesn't. So we get a trust that more always
Unknown:gets revealed as we move forward. So remember, take those
Unknown:pauses, let go of worry, let go of doubt and live fully the best
Unknown:version of yourselves. Thank you for listening today. Huge thank
Unknown:you to Meg for being here today and sharing her stories with
Unknown:you. I know there was great value for you. And so take this
Unknown:into your week. It is a it's just about the end of February.
Unknown:So take this into March and beyond. Let's go. Have a great
Unknown:week ahead. If it's not shaping up the way you want it to you
Unknown:know the drill, take the lead and create a fantastic one.
Unknown:We'll talk with you next week. Take care. Thanks for listening
Unknown:to another episode of Let's be honest before we start
Unknown:pretending for more resources on taking the lead in your life.
Unknown:Head over to Kelly J mo beck.com. And connect with me on
Unknown:Instagram at coach Kelly mo back. If this episode was
Unknown:helpful for you, please feel free to share it with friends
Unknown:rate and review it on iTunes. That's Apple podcasts now, and
Unknown:at any time feel free to connect with me and let me know what you
Unknown:want to hear next or what you're working on. I'm happy to help.
Unknown:Thanks again for listening and here's to you taking the lead in