Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley ask Kathryn what today’s moment will teach future generations and what scares or gives her hope; she cites AI, future access to clean water, and especially human connection, arguing technology and social media can both unite communities and isolate people into judgmental, exclusionary spaces, reducing empathy. She describes small acts of community—like baking muffins for neighbors—that led to reciprocal connection, and says everyone can create community by reaching out. In a lightning round, she predicts the four-year degree won’t be the default by 2035, says hiring is more about who you know than certifications, and that hobbies teach more than jobs. They discuss parents’ pre-phone era, using history to avoid repeating mistakes, “protopia,” and later the hosts reflect on phones, social media addiction, climate change claims, and cultural separations versus community.

Timestamps:

• (00:00) From 27 looking ahead to 45 – human connection scares and inspires more than AI or clean water
• (05:09) Four-year degree won’t be default by 2035 – hiring will favor who you know over certifications
• (09:36) Hobbies teach more than most jobs – parents’ pre-phone era shows what we lost
• (18:01) Small acts like baking muffins create reciprocal community – anyone can start by simply reaching out

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