In this second MS podcast, Keds talks to Karen Makin about her diagnosis, treatment and self-care whilst living with MS.

Karen is very much an all or nothing sort of person and was running two self-employed businesses when her MS really took hold and prevented her from pursuing one of her businesses and taking stock of what the future might hold.

Karen shared with us tips and tricks she and her family have implemented to help budget her energy better and manage her MS but also to remove stress where possible from her life which can be a major trigger for chronic conditions.

If you'd like to know more about Karen's photo booth business you can find her at www.jollygoodphoto.co.uk

Listen to part one with Nichola Brain here and don't forget to visit our Happiness Hub Blog where we have weekly posts around the topics we discuss on the podcast.

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