In Episode 4, Lisa is joined by guest co-host Kyle to talk about the case against Rodney Reed.  In July, 2021, an evidentiary hearing on Reed’s 10th State post-conviction writ was held in Bastrop County, Texas.  Prior to the hearing, the state submitted 2 disclosures of information to Reed’s counsel and Kyle and Lisa talk about those disclosures and the witnesses statements.  After the close of the hearing, Reed and the state each submitted proposed findings of fact and conclusions of law to the court in advance of closing arguments, which were held on October 18, 2021.  Kyle and Lisa talk about the proposed findings, the closing arguments and the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law entered by Judge J.D. Langley on October 31, 2021.