What if your biggest struggles aren’t something to “fix”… but something to understand?

In this powerful episode of the Adult Child of Dysfunction Podcast, I sit down with certified hypnotherapist and life coach Peter McLaughlin to explore the deep connection between trauma, the subconscious mind, and the patterns that quietly run your life.

After being diagnosed with both Lyme disease and leukemia in the same day, Peter’s life took a dramatic turn—one that led him into a profound journey of healing, self-discovery, and understanding the mind-body-spirit connection.

Together, we break down how past experiences—especially childhood trauma—get stored in the subconscious and continue to shape your thoughts, behaviors, emotional responses, and even physical health.

We also dive into the truth about “self-sabotage”… and why it’s not actually sabotage at all—but a protective response from your subconscious mind that doesn’t realize the threat is no longer there.

This conversation will challenge the way you think about healing.

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✔ The powerful connection between the mind, body, and subconscious patterns

✔ How trauma gets stored and continues to impact your life years later

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✔ How hypnosis works and what it really is (not what you think)

✔ The role of childhood experiences in shaping your adult behaviors

✔ Why healing requires going to the root—not just managing symptoms

✔ How shifting your perspective can completely change your life

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Good morning, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Adult Child of Dysfunction.

Today we have with us Peter McLaughlin.

He is a guest who is someone whose life changed, literally, in a single day.

For many people, that would have been the end of the story, but for him, it was actually just the beginning.

That diagnosis led him into deep exploration of the mind, body, spirit connection, the subconscious patterns that drive our lives and the idea that what shows up physically may have roots far deeper than we realize.

Welcome, Peter.

Thank you so much, Tammy.

I'm happy to be here with you.

Yes.

No, this is great.

So now you are going to finish this.

I wanted to introduce you first, but you are now a certified hypnotherapist, life coach, and creator of Blue sky Hypnosis, a YouTube channel with over 130,000 subscribers and 17 million views.

Today, we're going to be talking about.

Wow.

Root causes, subconscious programming, how trauma shapes our lives, and why healing is less about fixing and more about uncovering what's underneath.

I'm actually super excited about this conversation, to tell you the truth.

Me too.

Yeah.

So a diagnosis like that, I mean, it's bad enough to be told you have leukemia.

It's bad enough to be told you have Lyme disease, which we all know is now sometimes a very chronic, lifelong thing, but both at the same day.

Yeah, Right, right.

Wow.

Talk about that.

Well, someone else described it perfectly, which is getting hit upside the head with a spiritual 2x4.

And obviously, I was probably still am to a degree, a pretty stubborn person.

And it required that kind of dramatic, scary diagnosis to get my attention.

I'm certain that all kinds of things happened prior to that that I wasn't paying attention to that I was pushing away.

And this is.

This is something that, for me, really got my attention.

I couldn't push it away.

And it really did, in my view, present a door to me.

And I think we live in a free will universe.

I didn't have to open the door, but I did.

And by opening the door and walking through it, it changed my life in myriad ways.

So was it.

It was an immediate, like, aha.

My whole life has to shift.

My beliefs, my thinking, my everything.

Was it that?

No, no, I can't say that.

I think I went through the.

There's like, all these stages.

I forget the woman who came up with it, but the stages of.

Of grief after somebody dies and the first one was disbelief.

I didn't believe it.

I thought, this is completely ridiculous.

And I went back and gave blood again, and they came up with the exact same results.

And I went through anger and bargaining and grief and a feeling of hopelessness and then back to anger.

And it took me a couple of years.

I put my business kind of on autopilot.

I have a security guard business with 50 employees.

And I just started only sending out invoices and doing the payroll and only dealt with emergencies when they came up.

Everything else was focused on researching because the hematologist oncologist had said to me, we don't know what causes this and we don't know how to cure it.

And I thought, I'm going to have to figure this out myself.

And the more I researched.

And again, over time, it was three years or so between the diagnosis and when I went out to Santa Fe, New Mexico to study hypnotherapy.

And the research pulled me gradually from the physical plane of cause and effect into the power the mind has over the body.

And then as I studied this work and as I began to do more of it, I was drawn even higher into the spiritual.

I was going to ask how long it took to get from the.

The Western medicine type.

You have this, and this is your symptoms and this is your quote, unquote cause, which obviously they don't.

They didn't know until it came to the spiritual.

Because it seems in my world, at least everybody I know, eventually that path takes them there.

It takes them into, you know, it's it.

And we all have that wake up call.

So.

And sometimes it sends us more into that spiritual world.

It certainly did me.

I had a stroke last January, and I had been kind of dabbling in that whole spiritual thing.

I was certified to do Reiki and I, you know, was all about, like, cause and effect.

And I knew my childhood trauma had caused all these physiological things, but it really threw me quickly into the spiritual world, into, let's figure out, figure this out.

And I need something bigger than me to help me do that.

Yes.

Yeah, absolutely.

Not about what those little vials of blood say.

It's about everything else.

It's about the bigger picture.

Exactly.

That's awesome.

So.

So you did.

So this was 19 years ago.

Well, now it's 23 years ago.

So that was 23 years ago.

Almost exactly.

And it took me about three years to find my way to, To Being a hypnotist to being trained as a hypnotist and starting to practice as a hypnotist.

So the practice has been about 19 years, but it was 23 years ago that I was diagnosed.

Okay, and are you.

How are you physically?

I mean, you look great.

Thank you.

I feel really good.

And I'd like to answer that question in two ways.

The first way is, I think, the way modern people expect the answer, which is, what is your white blood cell count in the case of leukemia?

And the answer to that is, it's still high, but it's less than half of what it was when I was diagnosed 23 years ago when they told me I might live for 10 years.

So to me, that's a big.

That's a big positive.

That's a big win.

On the other.

The other way of answering is, I think, the way people would have answered that question for most of human history, and that is, how do you feel?

And I feel really good.

I don't feel.

I don't feel like my age.

I'm going to be 64 in about a month, and I don't feel that age.

I feel much, much younger.

I feel strong and my thinking is good, and I feel like I have a lot of energy and I sleep well and.

And I actually feel better than I did before I was diagnosed.

And I was diagnosed when I was 41.

Wow.

You.

I mean, for the people that cannot see him, that are just listening to this, he doesn't look 64 years old, let me tell you.

Not even close.

Not even slightly close.

Thank you for that.

Well, you know, and.

And you're right.

That is a huge marker because the numbers, it's kind of like I say, age is just a number.

It's the same thing when my father had prostate cancer, that PSA count.

And it was like, that'll.

That'll work itself out.

Let's work on the other stuff.

Let's work on just taking care of your body.

Let's work on getting to that spiritual aspect.

Let's work on getting out of victim mentality and just accepting this is something.

And I'm either gonna sit here and wither away, which is what they say is going to happen, because what your mind thinketh becometh.

You know, like I said, dad, if you sit here and you say one more time, it's.

This is going to kill me.

It most certainly is.

Stop.

Yeah.

You know, and.

And he eventually.

I mean, he bought it for 15 years, but it was Agent Orange cancer, too, which is a Tough, aggressive, from the Vietnam.

Yeah, that was.

He had it in every single soft tissue organ, ironically, except his liver.

And he was an alcoholic from the time he was 20, so figure that out.

Wow.

I. I said they wish they could have taken his organs and done a study.

Even his doctor was like, I would love to have been able to start from the beginning with this because it was in every single soft tissue organ, the cancer, except his liver.

So I think he pickled it.

I guess so.

Yeah.

Alcohol was like, no, it can't deal with one more thing.

But anyway, a whole nother side story.

So talk about how it led you into like, was hypnosis because you wanted to find root causes.

There were a couple things that happened that at the time they seemed disjointed.

But in a flash it all came together.

And one of them was, I ended up selling the security guard company because I felt like I couldn't afford the stress that I was under because of this work.

I would get called in the middle of the night when there'd be some kind of a problem and my heart would be pounding because I'd think, this is my fault and I've got to fix it.

And I sold it.

And then I had this feeling of kind of panic of not having anything.

So I bought this little shipping and packing store thinking that I could just have it as an investment and have it on the side, which was a total joke.

I ended up spending tons of time there and making very little.

And it may have all been because this one day a person walked in with a box that they wanted to ship and it said on it, this was in Connecticut Hypnotherapy Academy of America, Santa Fe, New Mexico.

And I got into.

And I was fascinated by it.

I just thought, this is really interesting.

And I got into probably an hour long conversation with this, with this woman whose sister had started this, this school with her husband.

And as.

And then I just kind of forgot about it.

And then my wife and I were watching that movie, the Secret, you know, when you could first stream movies.

And we were sitting there watching it.

Halfway through, I looked at her and I said, I need to be a hypnotist.

And she looked back and she said, yes, you do.

And I did some research on different places and I kept coming back to the one in New Mexico.

And I called them up and it turns out that the founder had been a paramedic.

And I was heavily identifying with being a first responder then.

And their focus was on the adjunctive uses of hypnosis.

With medical issues.

And I thought, okay, this has got to be the place for me.

And they said, there's one spot left, and we're starting, like, in four days, five days.

Wow.

So my wife was totally behind me, God bless her.

And I signed up, went out there, and it.

It felt like the experience changed my life.

I felt like I came back a different person, which is what they said would happen.

The person who was in charge of enrollment said, whether you go on to practice this or not, it'll change your life.

You'll never be the same.

And she was totally right.

Right.

Yeah.

I mean, and just in that.

And that probably dove you way more into the spiritual just because of the.

The, like, talk a little bit about what your experience with, like, the.

The here and now world that we live in versus what you experience when you're going through hypnosis or when you're training or when your mind is in that whole other mindset, I guess you could say, if that makes sense.

I think one of the best ways of doing that is to.

Is to help the listeners relate to what hypnosis is.

Because it's such a ubiquitous term.

It's been in our vernacular since we were little kids.

In every form of communication, whether it's a comic book or a movie or a TV show or a staged play or, you know, the local news, somebody mentions that word or lyrics in popular songs.

And in the popular conception, in the entertainment vein, they make it look like it's one person controlling another person who then surrenders all of their autonomy and they don't remember anything that happened.

And what I like to talk about for people is the times when you have been in hypnosis, you just didn't know that's what it was.

Right.

When you've been driving your car and you pull into your driveway and you can't remember driving the last 15 minutes when you were working in your garden and you came in and washed your hands, and there was a cut on the back of your hand, but you didn't feel the pain.

When you were in love and you lost track of time or watching a movie and you thought, oh, my God, the movie's already over.

I thought it was 20 minutes that you moved without a hypnotist, in those instances, into a hypnotic state.

That's what hypnosis is.

It's a focused state of concentration where certain things outside of the diameter, the tight diameter of your concentration disappear.

It's like they don't exist.

And your brain, if you were to image your Brain.

Parts of your brain in that state would go dark and other parts would light up.

And this is where your creativity lives.

This is where your emotions live, and this is where the programming that runs your life lives.

You know, if you had to think about walking across the room, all the things that would have to happen, all the muscles that would have to fire and what you'd have to do, you'd fall down, right.

If you had to think about shaking somebody's hand, it would totally confuse you.

Right?

Driving your car, it would be like the first time you drove it every single time.

But we have this ability to create programming and patterns, most of which really works for us.

Right.

Some of it is working against us.

And, and we call that, I think largely we would call that self sabotage.

Right.

But I have a completely different concept about that, which is the role of the subconscious mind is to protect you.

And we've already established, maybe we haven't established it has no concept of time.

Something that happened 40 years ago is right now.

Right.

So if you put those two things together, you've just described ptsd.

So self sabotage, in my view, is not part of you trying to sabotage you.

It's trying to protect you.

It just is trying to protect you against a threat that doesn't exist anymore.

Oh, absolutely.

100%.

100%.

I agree with that totally.

And I, you know, coming from the background that I come from and working with the clients that I work with, we all self sabotage because we all are trying to protect, we're trying to be little.

I remember I use as an example the first time I, I really realized how bad I was doing it was that I was up for a big promotion at work and I didn't take it.

And the reason I didn't take it was because I laid in bed and pictured myself up on the stage accepting the award.

And I was scared to death about getting the award, not getting the promotion, getting the award.

And I literally turned down that promotion.

And people like, what did you do now years later, I'm like, I know exactly what I did.

Yeah, I, my brain was programmed to stay small and getting that promotion was not going to let me stay small.

And exactly.

So those, you know, when you talk about root causes of things and you know that that makes 100% sense and.

That part of you that was inducing you to turn down the promotion was doing it for a perceived beneficial reason.

Oh, yeah.

It wasn't doing it to harm you.

It was doing it because it thought it would protect you.

And so like a Little child, if they do something, if they make a mess in the kitchen and you scream and yell at them, you're just going to make it worse.

If you sit down with them and you're really gentle and you explain to them the proper way to do it or something.

Right.

Or you give them a task that they can do so they can feel useful, you're way better off.

And we can do that with that part of ourselves that is quote unquote sabotaging.

We can thank it for what it has done for us in the past and for its intention and explain to it, I'm using very simple language, that it doesn't need to do this anymore, that you're safe, but if you ever need it, you'll call on it, it will come back out.

Right.

And is that kind of what you work through with people with the hypnosis?

Yeah, I mean, I think another way of explaining it would be to find the traumas that, that set up a pattern and to heal or resolve the trauma where it lives, which is in the past.

Because the symptom is dependent for its life on, on the root.

Just like the part of the plant that is above the surface of the earth is dependent for its life on the roots.

Right.

If you pull a weed out by its roots, it can't survive.

Right, Right.

So your, your goal, and the main goal of the hypnosis is to get all the way down to the root and he'll heal that part or give that part love or give whatever it needs.

And you know, in for the listeners out there too.

You think about how some of these things really got ingrained.

Like you said, the mistake that you made as a child that you were berated for.

And then all of a sudden, you know, 40 years later you spill something and you're like, I'm such an idiot.

You know?

Exactly.

Yeah, because.

And think about it too.

When you're little, when these things happen to you when you're little, everything seems so big.

You know, as an adult, if you had never had that happen to you as a child, if the very first time you were 18 and you spilled something, you wouldn't be like, you would just be like.

And happens because you well adjusted.

So it's almost like you have to go back.

Like I say, when we work through inner child work and reparenting your little self, it's like you have to go back.

And because you're right, there is no concept of time.

And that, that it does exactly.

You know, you freeze that moment that you are Reprimanded or yelled at or scared.

It freezes in a moment of time.

And the.

I always use the example from the.

When you said the PTSD is.

And it's so sensory.

You know, I had something happen when I was in six years old and.

Or five years old, even younger, four or five.

And every day it happened over and over and over again.

And while it was happening, it was so funny.

My mom was listening to this soap opera.

She was watching the soap opera why this abuse was happening.

And 30 years later, I'm sitting at the table.

I was just talking about some.

This to someone yesterday.

30 Years later, I'm sitting at a table talking to my son and his friends, and I threw up on the table.

And they all looked at me.

And I was like, wait, because I've been doing a lot of work.

And I went, wait, hold on.

And then I stopped and thought about it.

And it was that music from that soap opera playing in the other room.

So that, you know, I immediately.

Because I've done the work and because I could go back and go, I see where that came from.

Then I can make myself okay, and I can turn on that soap opera all day long now.

But I had to get that out of my nervous system as far as that being that trigger.

But you made a comment, and I really love that people are basically actors on a stage.

Talk a little bit more about that because I wanted to hear what I like.

Yeah, I mean, Shakespeare 450 years ago said, all the world's a stage.

All the men and women are merely players.

Each one has his entrances and exits, and everything is full of sound and fury.

And in the.

And in the end, it all means nothing.

That's what.

That's what he said, right?

And my experience working with clients in spiritual regression, so hypnotic spiritual regression.

You can take a person to the moment at which they were making plans for this lifetime, and you can understand the deeper agreements or contracts or patterns that were.

That were decided upon and that the person agreed to with family members, friends, children, people that they got married to.

They can understand what their purpose is on this.

In this life.

And as a person who used to be an actor, I recently returned to it through a bizarre story.

But I can say that that's what actors go through.

Actors often will travel in a troupe, a company, especially repertory companies, and in one play, the actor might have a big part in the next one, a small one.

In one, they're the villain, in the other one, they're the hero.

In the other one, they're the next door neighbor, the best friend.

And it's almost like this is what we do.

We make decisions before we're born, before we're incarnated into this life.

About, you know, I'm going to do this, you're going to do that.

And why?

Because we're all here to learn something.

We're all here, I think, for what is called an awakening, which is to remember who we are.

We may be here in part to work through karma that we incurred in a previous lifetime, but it's all done in this very theatrical kind of way.

And awakening is remembering that you're not the character you're playing.

In other words, you're not your personality, you're not your ego.

That's the character you're playing.

You're not even the circumstances of your life like an actor, it's all affected you, it's all informed you, but it doesn't define you.

Because at the end of the play, you take off your costume and you take off the makeup.

And the end of the play, in this metaphor, is obviously when you transition, when your physical body dies and your spirit is released back into heaven or the universe, however you want to think about it.

Yeah.

I had someone say one time that that's literally that our life, we are.

Someone else used kind of like that same analogy, that we are here to learn something and have that purpose.

And you will literally keep making them same mistakes over and over again and reliving the same life until you figure it out.

Like, so they are.

So when she said that, I was like, wow, so maybe we should just figure it out now?

Like, yes.

And she's like, yeah, she said, because otherwise.

And she does a lot of, like, akashic records and things like that, going back into these past lives.

She said, otherwise you're just going to live it in another body.

Well, and that's the way school is supposed to work.

If you don't complete and learn what you're supposed to learn in the second grade, you're not supposed to be sent to the third grade.

Right.

It's the same with us.

We come here to learn something.

If we don't learn it, there's no shame, there's no punishment.

But it's important that we learn it.

So we just come back to work on it again.

Wow.

I mean, that just makes it super quick and super easy for me for someone, like, sitting outside going, okay, so maybe I should just nip it in the bud, take the responsibility now so I don't have to relive this over and over again.

And.

And I guess that's where it comes to free will and your choice.

And you have a choice, so you have a choice to think.

Do I, you know, like, I don't know, apply this to your diagnosis?

Let's see.

Like, can you do that for us?

Yeah, of course.

This philosophy, at least the way I interpreted it, means everything's ultimately happening for you, right?

Even the worst things, like being diagnosed with Lyme disease and leukemia on the same day.

And all the anger and the fear and the grief and the bargaining and all that stuff that went along with was there, in my opinion, to help get me on the track I was supposed to be on.

And I can say in hindsight that I healed this anger that I had.

I wasn't even aware of how.

Of how devastating it was until I actually healed it.

And because I did that, I became a better father to my little children at the time, they were little, they're all now grown.

I became a better husband.

I became more compassionate and understanding about other people.

It was easier for me to accept help.

None of which would have happened if this hadn't occurred.

Right.

And so back to Shakespeare in Hamlet.

Hamlet says, a thing is neither good nor bad, but thinking makes it so.

In other words, the way we interpret an event, we can interpret that as a victim and start behaving like a victim with everything.

Or we could interpret it as, hey, this is a wake up call.

What is this trying to tell me?

I need to make some kind of change in my life.

I'm powerful.

If I could have some unconscious hand in creating this, then I surely could create something different.

And it opens up this universe of possibilities.

But if you're just kind of going along and everything is sort of working, then what is your.

What is the inducement to change?

Right.

I mean, it's a good point.

I remember my father saying to me, do you want to have an amazing life?

And I said, yeah.

He said, well, you know, nothing amazing ever happens in your comfort zone, right?

Yeah.

Get out of your comfort zone and create.

Like, as long as you stay content, contentment is not where God wants you to be.

God wants you to be in abundance and thriving.

Like, get out of that comfort zone and make the right choices.

And I remember him telling me that.

And it takes.

It takes faith to step out of one's comfort zone.

It takes faith to face something really scary and to keep moving.

It takes faith to just accept on face value that there's something in this.

For me, I remember one of the things that moved me the most after I got this diagnosis was there's a famous cancer doctor, maybe you've heard of him, named Bernie Siegel.

I don't even know if he's still alive.

I've heard the name.

The thing that really moved me was he had a question he asked all of his patients, which was, why did you need to get cancer?

And half of them would get angry at them, and they'd just be that.

That's it for you.

And the other half were like, whoa, you just blew my mind.

What.

Maybe there's a purpose to this.

And I think that's another part of the philosophy that there is a purpose to everything.

Right?

Yeah.

And if you.

If you believe that, if you have faith, what happens?

Immediately, your nervous system calms down.

You know, if there's nothing, if you don't have to fight something, but rather understand it, fix it, integrate it, heal it, whatever you want to say, then you've already taken a giant step towards solving a problem.

If my car's not working and I get angry and I start beating it with a baseball bat, I have zero chance of fixing it.

Right.

You know, but maybe if I just kind of take a breath, open the hood, and just look, maybe I see something.

Maybe I see a hose that's come disconnected.

You know, maybe I see a wire that's loose.

Maybe I see corrosion on the battery terminals, and I'm.

And I think, oh, maybe if I take that corrosion off and refasten this, and it works, like, okay.

Yeah.

And it is funny how the universe works.

You know, it's like I wanted.

And I.

That's one of my favorite expressions is, look, start looking at life as happening for you, not to you.

Yes.

And I mean, then I start looking back at all these times, and even just right when I started my coaching business, I had been wanting to write a book and wanting to write a book, and son kept saying, just stop working so much and just write your book.

And I was working in a physical job, and then we went to a Yankee game, and I fell off a scooter going 18 miles an hour and tore five ligaments in my knees.

And on the way to the emergency room, my.

My son says to me, God kept telling you to slow down.

Now he's telling you to stop.

And what did I do?

I wrote two books in those three months.

Wow.

And I never.

Yeah, I never got angry about the knees.

I was like, you're right.

Let me.

I have no knees.

I can't do anything.

Let me do Something with this.

And when you think about.

And I'm sure if you're out there listening, you can think of at least two, maybe three times where the things that you thought were so bad ended up being your biggest blessing.

Yes.

Yeah.

Really.

And this is.

This is a. I mean, I don't have to tell you this or anybody listening, but this is a.

This is probably one of the biggest challenges as humans is.

Is having faith.

Having faith that everything's happening for a reason.

That.

That God really does have this, and that even.

Even if it looks scary, there's a purpose to it and everything changes if we can shift into that mindset.

And I'm not saying I'm there all the time.

I'm not going to sit here and say that, you know, that I struggle with these things too.

But the more.

The older I get, the more experiences I have, the more I take it on faith, the easier it is the next time.

The less resistance I have and certainly the less anger about unfairness or going into a victim place.

Yes.

And that's the biggest thing.

And it's like everything else in your brain.

And, guys, this is what we talk about on this podcast all the time.

When you start doing it on a regular basis and seeing the good in things, it will eventually rewire your brain to start seeing the good.

Good.

And the more good things you see, the more good things you're going to attract, because that is how the universe works.

That is how energy works.

That is how the whole thing works.

Yes.

Yeah.

Fully agree.

Yeah.

So what makes for you and your clients, what makes someone a good candidate to come to you?

Great question.

There are several characteristics.

One of them is open mind, a willingness to go places in their consciousness that maybe they haven't gone before to do a process they had never considered.

So, for example, if we find out that their root cause to whatever issue they're dealing with is in a past lifetime and they just reject the concept of past life, we can't get to the root.

How are we going to fix this?

We can manage it.

You know, we can help them feel a little bit better, but we can't really get to the root cause.

So an open mind is really important.

And right alongside of that would be courage, the courage in their mind to go back into a trauma, which is really what Joseph Campbell called the hero's journey.

That he said every human being is on the hero's journey, and most of our stories are written based upon the hero's journey.

That's what we watch.

That's what we're consuming all the time.

So those two things are really important.

And then the third one is a willingness, I would say, for discomfort.

And I find that athletes, I've worked with, a lot of professional athletes and D1 college athletes, and they uniformly have this ability to face adversity, to face things that are difficult, to persevere, to keep going.

So that when a person meets some kind of resistance, they don't stop there.

It's okay to cry, it's okay to be scared.

It's okay to back off a little bit.

But we have to keep going.

We have to go through it.

We can't let some kind of fear inside stop us, because as soon as it stops us, our forward momentum, our forward progress, ends at that point as well.

So I would say those are the three things that for me define really successful people.

You know, a persistence, a willingness, a commitment to see it through, the bravery and the courage to face things that they don't necessarily want to face or that they've spent a lifetime avoiding.

And then the third one is obviously the openness to explore in different ways, ways maybe that they haven't done before, and not just write it off as, oh, that's just.

That's not real.

That's weird.

That's strange, right?

I mean, and you're the expert.

So I tell people when they come to you and they have these questions, I mean, you're not going to guide them into something, because I think that's the thing.

People, like you said, they have this vision of, you know, look like a chicken, bark like a dog, and you are now waking up and you don't remember anything.

You're not going to guide them somewhere that is going to be something.

So, like, you're not going to do that.

You're not going to harm people.

This is not to harm, you know, it's not to put you in this traumatic.

I'm reliving, and then bam, you walk away.

That's not what it is.

No.

The idea is to go at their pace.

You know, everybody has a different pace.

Everybody has a different tolerance to make sure that they feel comfortable conceptually understanding what we're doing.

And then I also have every one of my clients let me say it this way.

The body, your body is a feedback mechanism.

How do you know that you're happy?

Your body tells you.

How do you know that you're unhappy or you're scared?

Your body tells you.

Your body's speaking to you all the time, and it's under the control of Your autonomic nervous system, which is controlled by your subconscious mind.

That's where all the patterns are.

Right.

If you have a person hold a pendulum, something that looks like this, that pendulum serves as an amplifier of what your body's already telling you.

And you can establish a yes and a no just by holding the pendulum.

You can look at it and say, show me yes.

And it will move in a particular direction.

It'll go either this way or go this way.

Yep.

Yeah.

Or go in a circle or something.

Go in circles, whatever.

Yeah.

So you can get a yes and a no.

And then you can ask a question.

Client's holding it, not me.

Am I seated in a chair?

Goes yes.

And am I 700ft tall?

It goes, no.

Okay, so we've calibrated it.

We now have your body speaking to us.

So now we can ask, is the root cause of the migraine headaches that you get every week from a trauma?

Say it goes yes.

Is that from a trauma earlier in your present life?

Let's say it says no.

Is it from a past life?

Let's say it says yes.

Is it in my highest and best interests to revisit that past lifetime to resolve this trauma?

Let's say it says yes.

Now, that person still has a choice whether they want to do this or not.

But we've had this inner wisdom, this inner intelligence from them.

Tell us.

This is what the root cause is of your migraine headaches.

This is where it resides, and it's a trauma.

And it's your highest and best interest to go resolve it.

Are you willing to go do it?

Of course I would be.

I mean, yeah, it's.

And it's.

It's crazy with the pendulum.

It is so easy to do, and it's so simple.

And it's the same thing.

I talk about muscle testing all the time with just standing there and just.

With the sway method, you know, ask yourself, is my name Tammy?

Your body naturally leans forward.

You say, you know, am I a millionaire?

My body's leaning back.

You know, it's.

It's.

It naturally happens.

And because I. I don't know why, you know, it's like.

Because I think it's that universal wisdom, you know?

God, and you know it all.

Your body knows it all.

So I. I picture that like you said that, you know, that thing, that resistance and that thing stuck in you, and it'll be stuck in your body.

And if you feel it and you're like, okay.

Your natural instinct is, go around it.

But it's like, it's still going to be there until you can go through it.

And that's what you can do safely with people.

Yes.

And this is immensely persuasive for people when they're holding the pendulum and they know they're not consciously moving it in a particular direction.

Right.

And they're like, oh, wow.

And a lot of times we'll be able to zero in, let's say, on a trauma that happened in this lifetime to a particular age, whether they were indoors or outdoors, whether they were at school or at home.

And then all of a sudden they're like, oh, my God, I haven't thought about that in 20 years or 30 years.

I remember now, when I was six years old, something happened.

And I'm getting that this is the root cause of some problem I've been dealing with.

So their inclination, their willingness to then go and address it is much higher.

And as you stated, it's never for the purpose of going and wallowing in something that happened.

No, it's understanding it and then doing whatever we need to do to rewrite it or heal it.

Sometimes this involves the person at their current age going back to that time to rescue a younger version of them.

Right.

Sometimes it involves forgiveness.

Sometimes it involves, let's say, if the person is Christian, they'll have Jesus or Mary come with them to resolve this thing, all of which is possible in your consciousness.

And once that incident has been healed, once it's been overwritten, let's say, then we use the pendulum again.

Has this been healed?

And if we get a yes, we're done.

We don't have to deal with that again.

And now that toxic material doesn't live in their subconscious anymore.

And the old triggers, like the example you gave of the music from the soap opera, when it played after you had resolved it, it wasn't telling your subconscious mind you're under attack.

Your subconscious mind heard the music and it was like, it's just music.

Right.

There was no more association between the music and trying to protect you.

Right.

And that's when you know for sure.

You.

You definitely healed that, right?

Absolutely.

So what are some questions?

Okay, so I'm.

I know I could talk to you all day, but what are some questions people might ask themselves if you would be.

Like, if they would be.

I know you showed.

Who would be good candidates, but how might people think that they're.

What questions might they be asking themselves to see if they're ready to move forward and, like.

You see what I'm saying?

Yeah.

I mean, well, first of All I do, like a lot of people, offer a free 20 minute consultation.

So people can set up a phone call with me and ask any questions that they want and talk through fears that they might have or specific questions.

One of the questions people might have is would this work for this issue?

Would this work for that issue?

And my answer is it would work for anything that your mind is involved in, which is everything.

What is your mind not involved in?

Right.

So that's one question people would have.

Another question, fear people might have would be, well, somebody tried to hypnotize me 15 years ago and it didn't work.

And I have dealt with a lot of people over the years and if hypnosis doesn't work, it's either because the person doesn't really know what hypnosis is because it was never explained to them and they think it's supposed to be a catatonic sleep like state, or probably more likely there's a subconscious block.

The subconscious is trying to lock down this whole thing because it doesn't want the person to go there and, and feel any sense of danger or difficulty.

It's trying to protect you.

And once you release that block, then the person can go right there.

What other questions might people have?

How long would this take?

Or another one would be, I'm so messed up because so many things happened to me, it would be going on forever.

And what I say to people with that is I've worked with a lot of people that have had the worst possible things you can imagine happen to them and we've been able to work through it.

And you don't have to deal with every specific instance because the subconscious is an associating making mechanism.

Right?

If you heal, you know, incident 101, then if 102 through 110 are similar, the subconscious will say, wait a second, if this is no longer a danger, then these must either not be dangerous or, or significantly lowered in danger.

I was going to say with a lot of yes.

So I'm going to put this out to like the people that, in this podcast that could possibly be listening who have like that subconscious, I'm not worthy because of something that happened when they were a child.

You let go of that I'm not worthy or I'm not good enough, or that guilt and literally that branches out into a hundred different aspects of your life.

You're reacting from that one thought in your back of your mind that you don't even know is going on.

You're acting, reacting and overacting in a Hundred different ways.

Yep.

And I'd like to.

I'd also.

I also would like to say that children are in hypnosis until the ages of between seven and nine.

And the reason for this from an evolutionary standpoint is that hypnosis is known as a state of hyper learning.

This is why a child of five can learn to speak Italian much faster than you or I could learn to speak Italian.

Because they're in a constant state of hypnosis.

We say children are like sponges.

So in the negative sense, a child takes on a sense of unworthiness because of a trauma that they suffered that happened with hypnosis.

Why wouldn't we use the same tool to reprogram it?

Right, right.

Love it, Love it.

I mean, you just make it seem so simple and so.

And it makes sense.

And I love that, that you put it in such a big, broad.

You know, this is for everybody.

It really is.

Any issues, any questions, and reach out to someone you trust.

I mean, you've got.

You've got Peter here.

Reach out to someone that you know that can give you the right answers.

We were talking about it Yesterday that while YouTube and all that stuff is great, trust the person you're getting the information from.

And that goes with instinct.

You know, when you start hearing things, if it feels a little funny, feels a little AI generated, like, not even their voice, like connect with a human.

But this far as you.

As far as YouTube goes, you can definitely read comments.

I still think that there's value there.

And just like on shopping on Amazon, you can't just take one comment and say, well, it's really good or it's really bad, but read a number of them and you get a feeling or a sense for what this person is creating, Right?

Yep, Absolutely.

And wow, I could literally talk to you all day.

But if people want to reach out to you, they want to talk to you, they want to learn more, where do they reach you?

The best place?

Best place would be my website, which is blueskyhypnosis.com I also have another website, which is my name, petermacloughlin.com and that one's focused more on relationships, people who are struggling in relationship.

Okay.

And then my YouTube channel is also Blue Sky Hypnosis.

Okay.

Yeah.

They just want to sample, you know, like, different kinds of tracks that I have there.

They can.

They can also go to my YouTube channel.

Oh, yes, definitely.

If you're out there listening, go subscribe.

I already checked it out.

It's great.

It's very informative and he's very knowledgeable.

Obviously you've been sitting here listening to him.

But.

So before you go, first of all, thank you for coming.

I really appreciate it.

Thank you for having me.

Yes, you're very welcome.

And before you go, if you could give the listeners one piece of advice or words of wisdom from Peter McLaughlin, what would it be?

It's that no one is permanently broken.

Everything's happening for a reason.

And that you have everything you need inside of you and that you're connected to.

To resolve anything that needs to be resolved.

Perfect.

Well said.

Well, thank you again for coming and you for everybody else out there listening.

You heard it.

You've heard me say it.

You've now heard Peter say it.

We've all said it.

Between you and your.

Whatever your higher power is, you have everything you need to heal, to be happy, to feel joy, to do all the things.

And you so, so, so deserve it.

So we will see you back next week.

Love you all.

Bye.