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[SGC-36] Mastering Visibility: Pam Hamilton’s Voyage into the World of Podcasting
Episode 3626th January 2024 • She's Got Content • Melissa Brown, MD
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Get ready for a super insightful episode this week. My special guest, Pam Hamilton, joined me for a chat about all things podcasting. Pam, a mindset and visibility expert, shares her recent journey of creating her own podcast, "Becoming Seen," and offers some awesome advice for navigating the world of podcast launching.

Soak up Pam's wisdom on facing your fears, embracing your authentic self, and having the courage to make a pivot when you recognize it's needed. It's going to be a fun and enlightening conversation, so grab your favorite drink and get ready to be inspired!

Don’t Miss Inside This Episode:

  • Embracing change. Pam highlights the importance of pivoting in her early podcasting journey and how she realized she needed to make a fix in the name of her show to be discoverable.
  • The challenges with getting started with your podcast and how to find support. And how it all boils down to taking one step and then another.
  • Discover some of the best tried-and-true software to make podcast production easier and less time-consuming.
  • You can't fix something without taking action and getting feedback about what needs fixing.

Links and products mentioned in today's episode:

Get your copy of Pam's free Visibility Journal

Books mentioned in this episode:

Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway by Susan Jeffers

The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks

Atomic Habits by James Clear

Software mentioned in this episode:

Audacity: Free, open-source audio editing software.

Descript: Editing audio is as easy as highlighting text. Monthly fee. Can be paused if need be.

Castmagic: The key to quickly and beautifully creating show notes and social media assets for your podcast. Monthly fee.

Other podcasts mentioned in this episode:

Pam's Podcast: Becoming Seen

Karen Robinson's Podcast: Heal Thrive Dream Podcast

About Pam Hamilton

Pam Hamilton is a mindset and visibility expert who's serious about helping women business owners over 50 get past the mindset hurdles that keep them invisible and playing small so they can live full out in their purpose and create a life they love. 

Pam's Website

Building Visibility

Connect With Pam on Social

Pam's free Facebook group: Building Visibility

Pam's Facebook page: The Coaching Lawyer

Instagram: @coachinglawyer

About Your Host

Melissa Brown, MD - Coach, Author, Speaker, Teacher, and Podcast Host.

After leaving medical practice in 2009, Melissa discovered the online world and never looked back! After coach certification, she began a healthy lifestyle coaching practice online and quickly fell in love with blogging, writing, and content marketing.

Melissa believes that coaches have the power to change the world. Unfortunately, too many coaches get discouraged by the amount of content they need to create for marketing their business, which can lead to feeling overwhelmed and giving up on their dreams. There's such a ripple effect when a dream dies, so Melissa is on a mission to help coaches and solopreneurs overcome the overwhelm when it comes to content creation so they keep those dreams alive.

Your content can impact massive amounts of people and positively change the world. You've got content in there inside you; let's get it out into the world.

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Hello there, content creators. You're listening to the She's Got

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Content podcast, where it's all about creating content for

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your coaching business. I'm your host, Doctor Melissa

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Brown, and I'm here every week to help you get your content

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out of your head, out of your heart, and out there into the world

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where that information and your services can impact the

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most people. Get ready to take notes today, and

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then Take action, content creators. Let's dive in with

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today's episode because you've got content to get out

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there. Welcome back, content creators. I

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am here today with my guest, Pam Hamilton. She

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is a mindset and visibility expert, And she's very

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serious about helping women business owners over 50 get past

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the mindset hurdles that keep them invisible and playing small

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so they can live full out in their purpose and create a life they

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love. Pam recently started her own

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podcast, and I thought it would be such fun And so

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informative to have her on the show and talk about her experience starting

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her new podcast. So let's welcome Pam. Thank

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you. Hi, Melissa. How you doing? I'm happy to be here.

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Yeah. I am so happy. We had a little conversation

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via email last year, and I said, oh, I would really love to have you

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on the show after you've had a few episodes under your belt. And You

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reached out to me after the 1st of the year here, so I'm so glad

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we were able to get this scheduled. So first of all, Pam, tell

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us about your business, what you do. I know I read intro.

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But tell us a little bit more about you and who you serve

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and what kind of work you're doing out there and putting out in the world.

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Sure. So I do mindset and visibility work. I

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coach. I speak. I'm an author. I've written

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One book that's a solo book, The Ten Principles of Visibility,

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and I've coauthored a couple of different books.

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And I'm very, very, very intentional about

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helping all the women that are struggling with visibility. I'm

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all about helping them find the courage to be Because that's

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the problem that I see people having. They are

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afraid to put themselves out there. And so many people talk about

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marketing and they wanna help them, but you can't

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do the marketing if there's this fear holding you

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back. Right. You need to get the courage to be seen in order

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to implement the strategies and techniques of marketing or

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anything else that you're gonna do. So it's like you helped them

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take off that invisibility cloak. Absolutely.

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Absolutely. Yeah. Because so often, they just don't

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Trust in themselves to be able to say the things that they need to say

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or do. They don't trust that their

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message needs to be heard. So it's just helping

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them step into their own skin comfortably.

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Well, there's such a need for this. So I'm so glad that you're out there

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doing it. And for those of you who have just met

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Pam, Pam is a recovering lawyer,

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Recovering attorney. So like me, she had a

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different career and now is online sharing some of

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her experience and genius in a different way. Yes.

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Absolutely. I was just actually talking about that

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how In 2020, when COVID tried to direct the world, I

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was taking care of my clients' legal needs Mhmm. And yet I was

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dreaming of coaching them. And I was coaching some of them

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for free, but I was dreaming of doing that full time. And now I

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am, and I'm really, really happy Would help That is so

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cool. I'm so glad that you've made that pivot.

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Tell us a little bit about your podcast. What's the name of it,

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and what's the mission, the goal for your podcast?

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Just go ahead and tell us Whatever you think we would like to know about

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your podcast. Great. So my podcast is called Becoming

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Seen, And it's about the art and science of

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creating authentic visibility. We don't want people to just be

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out there Trying to be out there for no reason or being out there

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inauthentically. We want them to be themselves and be

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comfortable in their own skin. And the podcast is about

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helping people uncover the things that get in

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the way to doing that and actually be able to

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live as your authentic self, to own your strengths and

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your differences as being An integral

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part of who you are and just embracing that and knowing that the

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people that resonate with you will be attracted

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to who you actually are. And you started this

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podcast in 2023.

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Yes. Okay. So you've got about 3, 4 months

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behind you? It may maybe 2 or 3. Not

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I don't think 4, but 2 or 3 months. I started it

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In late 2023, and then realized

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I needed to pivot just a little. Alright.

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Tell us about that. I know there was a different name that you started out

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with, and there was kind of quickly there was a pivot to a

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different name. So I love that you just went ahead and made

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that change, and I think that also is so empowering to other people who

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think, I can't start a podcast because I'm gonna get it wrong.

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And what if I make a mistake or I don't

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like the name that I choose? So many different things hold people back from

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getting started. For me, it was the Stupid music.

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Intro music that helped me back resolve. Your

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intro music, though. I loved it. Thank you. But it's it's like

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That's such an unimportant part of a

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podcast. Some people don't even have it. Yeah. So tell

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us about Getting started in your pivot.

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So, yeah, so I got held back for a long time too because I had

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to figure out music. I had to figure out intro. I had to figure

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out how I was gonna edit it. All of these different things that I

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thought, oh, you gotta have this in a podcast. But I knew I wanted to

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call it I See You Because I wanted people

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to know that I see them, that if they're invisible and they're struggling

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with being seen, if they're whispering like they're not supposed to be

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heard, I see them because I was them, and I

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I knew that's what I wanted to name my podcast.

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But What I had forgotten was that there was a

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movie that came out called Avatar. Mhmm. And

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one of the key lines in that movie was, I see you. Like, I really

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see you. And so there were dozens of

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podcast named I See You Uh-huh.

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Which I hadn't realized because the first thing I did

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was I went and got the domain name ICU for

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my podcast and the ICU podcast. I

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got both of those domain names. That's amazing that you were able to

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grab that. Yeah. I was able to grab both domain names, not

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understanding that in the podcast world,

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people don't always use the domain name for their

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podcast name because they're on these different hosting platforms.

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Mhmm. And those platforms,

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their the name of their podcast is on those platforms, and those

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platforms just let them have a subdomain name, so they

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don't go get the domain name. So knowing that you have

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the domain name Doesn't mean a whole lot, and I did not

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know that. And so I launched my podcast, but it was

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hard for people to find. And it was

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under a name that, like I said, dozens of podcast

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owners had it, and Several of them have been in there

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way longer than me and then established a marketplace. There was a guy on

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NPR that had one. There was this play. I didn't feel

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like I could ever really get my I

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was gonna be able to really get mine out there, Make make a a

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difference. And only because I wanted the people that

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need to hear the message to be able to hear the message, to be able

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to find it, and And they weren't going to be able to because of all

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the noise surrounding it. And one of the

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things I've learned is that Just because you made

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a mistake and just because you've been doing it a long time,

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doesn't mean you have to keep doing it. You can change.

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Oh, that's a mic drop right there.

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Yeah. That is so important to To

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to realize to understand that listen. We can always make a pivot.

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Mhmm. It's not like you're getting a tattoo. Exactly.

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Yeah. You can make a change. Yeah. And there are people

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that get tattoos that change them up. Yeah? That's all painful,

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but I would look like yeah. No. Neither would I.

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But but each his own. Exactly.

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Yeah. It's about changing it up. It's about making it

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work because you're here to serve the people that

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you're trying to work with. You wanna serve them. You wanna make sure that they're

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getting what they need out of it, and they can't if you're not

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willing To make the shifts and things to help them be able to do

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that. So yeah. Right. There's another

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aspect that We should probably talk about,

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and that is podcasting is

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audio for the most part. There are people who have YouTube

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podcast. But it's mostly audio. And when you

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say the ICU podcast, The

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former medical brain for me thinks ICU

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intensive care unit. Oh, yeah. And there were a whole bunch of those too.

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Yes. ICU and ICU. Yes.

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All all versions of ICU. Many, many, many versions.

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And sometimes with my podcast, if I don't say

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it slowly, she's got content transcript

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Translators, I don't know what you call them, the AI that does the transcript, the

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software. Mhmm. Sometimes it comes out like cheese, c h e

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e s e. Cheese got Content. So

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one has to be careful about how the audio

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sounds Exactly. And if you choose words that are also letters, that

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could also be translated to something different, and people may have a harder

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time finding Your podcast. And my Transcribe

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AI regularly called it ICU,

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not I see The letters? Yes. The let It

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was very interesting. There's so many things you learn about doing a podcast when

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you're trying to do a podcast. And so you think, okay. I gotta

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find this music, and You wanna get royalty free music, and where do you

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get that? And do you go through that for whatever? Then you gotta figure out

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how you're gonna edit this podcast. Are you gonna hire somebody? Are you gonna do

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it yourself? How are you gonna do it? Was that gonna cost you?

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On and on and like that. And then you go through all of that

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rigmarole, and then it's like, Now I gotta put it on hosting

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companies. You gotta pick up one of those. Right. And then

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there's a decision to be made. Which one? Am I gonna make a wrong

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decision? And can you move it if you pick 1 and you don't like them

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or you decide you wanna move over? So all of these

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decisions, but, Honestly, what I have found and your experience

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may be different, but what I have found is any of these things can

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be changed. Yes. Exactly.

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Pivoting is okay. If that's what you need to do or want

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to do, that's okay. And that's what I learned. And I think

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Because I'm leading people that

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have been afraid and let themselves play small

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For so many different reasons, it's really important for me

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to walk the talk, to always lead

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by example, to step out, to say, Okay. I made a mistake here.

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I'm making a pivot. Pivot and iterations grow you.

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Mhmm. Right? Mistakes or feedback that shows

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you you gotta do it some kind of different way. And so

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I'm constantly making myself

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Deal with whatever because sometimes you're afraid. Right? Sometimes

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I'm afraid when I'm doing stuff, and I have to say, okay, but I'm gonna

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do it anyway. And that's why I always talk about courage because

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courage has nothing to do with the absence of fear.

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Courage is about feeling the fear and doing it anyway.

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So I'm constantly By the way, I loved that book. Feel the

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Fear and Do It Anyway. That's Susan Jeffers. Is that the author's

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name? Yeah. And so fear and do it anyway.

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So right. You're really truly walking

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the talk Yes. Going through those things that are

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scary for many people, and they're scary for you, but you're doing them anyway.

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Exactly. Exactly. So And I didn't know there was a book. I'm gonna have Check

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out the book. Yeah. I think it's Susan Jeffers. Feel the fear and

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do it anyway. Yeah. And I think there's a workbook I might have to check

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it out. I feel that because I'm always saying find the

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courage. And so and be courageous. Do your day

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courageously. Now I'm gonna have to read her book.

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Alright. Inspiration there. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Going

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back to the beginning, when you first had the idea About doing a

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podcast to the time you actually produced your 1st episode

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with that first name, the ICU podcast. How

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long was it when you finally drew the line in the sand and said, I

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wanna have a podcast, but before you actually published your first one?

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I would say it was probably at least

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4 or 5 months, and it may have even been 6 months. I

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really Thought about it for a long time. I knew the

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name. I knew the name. I knew why I wanted to have the

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name, but it took me a while of really thinking, Where's

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this podcast gonna go? How am I gonna help people? What am

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I gonna be saying in it? Am I gonna have guests? How am I

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gonna have guests? Oh my god. That's a whole another level of things. Can I

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just say what I wanna say? Can I have a podcast that's just me?

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Well, I could just talk because I can do that, I think. So it was

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all of these different things. You have to figure out how you're gonna do

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it, The format is gonna be, how long it's gonna be. No one wants to

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hear just me talk for half an hour. I'll do 10 minutes. I

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can talk for 10 minutes and make it interesting and share real

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information. So it was all of these things to figure

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out, and the technical

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hurdles and the Platform things were the biggest hurdles

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for me. Like I said, figuring out the music, figuring out

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how to Use the editing software to

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add identifying part because there's all these parts to it,

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the identifying part and then the music part that says where I

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am and then me talking and then the outro

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part. That was the hardest part. But Yeah. What I'm

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finding now is I have a little checklist. Mhmm. And I

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just put the pieces in, and I

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just talk, and so it's not as hard

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because I can just talk. And when I'm talking, if I make a mistake,

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I clap my hands so I could find it Mhmm. Fix it, but I can

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just talk. And so that made it a lot easier

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than going through a bunch of extra hurdles that I wasn't expecting

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I didn't know how to deal with. I finally got it to something that was

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manageable for me. Right. You said something

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before about, Basically, unless you're taking action, you

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don't really know you don't have any feedback, so you don't know

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what's working and you don't know what to fix. Right.

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Exactly. So taking that action, just jumping in there and doing it.

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And I think if the listeners Take

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away the fact that listen. If you wanna do something, just

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basically jump in there and do it. Exactly. What we're talking about

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podcasting today, I guess there probably are some things. I wouldn't want you to do

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brain surgery if you don't know how to do it, but but Well no.

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You you don't wanna do brain surgery if you don't know how to do it,

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but jumping in there could mean going and see

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if that's what you really wanna do. Taking a tour,

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becoming familiar with some hospitals, doing interviews with some doctors,

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and finding out what that feels like and what that looks like and whether or

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not that's something you really can stomach because you're operating on a person's brain and

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there's blood and stuff coming up. There's things. You know what I mean? There are

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steps that come first. Right. And those things that wanna do, you

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jump in. You jump in where you can, how you can.

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Mhmm. Then you can grow and decide whether or not that's really

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what you wanna do. Right. Yes. Take

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action. And the action may be You need to do

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some research, find out if that's something that you actually do wanna

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do. Exactly. Did you get support

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to start? Did you take a course? Did you have somebody hold your hand

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and help you? How did that work for you? So

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I went to different people that said stuff

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about podcasting, but I didn't really

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get a lot of useful

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information because people were mostly trying to sell something.

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Mhmm. And then at some point, you had a summit about

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podcasting. And Bundle. Last Yeah. Summit.

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Yeah. Mhmm. And I signed up for that bundle when

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I downloaded some of the different things. And some of those

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things were really useful in saying,

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There's just these steps. Right. Right? There's just

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steps. And if I stop making it really complicated and thinking

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of the whole picture, I can figure out each step.

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And it's just 1 step in front of the other Exactly.

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After the other. Yeah. So I wouldn't say that it was a

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specific course, but when I looked at each of those people in the

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bundle that spoke to me, It became more and

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more clear to me that it was just taking some steps. And

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all I had to do was understand what the steps were, and then I could

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do that. I didn't have to beat myself up. Right.

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Again, it's just actions one after the other. Just keep

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moving. Exactly. Have there been some big

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surprises for you since you've started?

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Well, definitely, the biggest surprise was that It didn't

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matter that I have the domain name.

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Yeah. That was probably the biggest surprise that that just

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didn't matter. I still bought the domain name for the

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podcast I have. So my podcast

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becoming seen, I have that domain name. I

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found out that it that's not really how people do things. That was one of

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the biggest surprises. Mhmm. And the second

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Biggest surprise for me was that I was able

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to learn how to use my editing software pretty quickly.

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I thought that was gonna be a big hurdle. You use

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Audacity? Yeah. I use Audacity. Yeah.

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And I thought that was gonna be really, really hard, and it turned out

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to be really simple. That was a pleasant surprise.

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Actually, that intimidated me in the beginning to Audacity. I think I

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started with Audacity, and I quickly jumped to Descript.

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Descript to me is just so easy to use, and I think you've had a

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different experience with that Yeah. Particular software. Yeah. Because I thought

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Descript was gonna be the answer, Mhmm. It just

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I really could not figure that out. I was just lost in

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the sauce with that. And probably because I was overcomplicating it, but I was really

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lost. But Audacity,

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once I stopped and really looked at it, it made sense so you could break

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it down and figure it out. So I started using that, and

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it's made life a lot easier. One of the biggest things that scared

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me and Made it hard for me to figure out how to do

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it was that you had to have show notes

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Mhmm. And This part and that part and all

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these other things that are attached to your podcast, and I didn't know how I

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was gonna make all of that happen. But It

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got easier because I, got a

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lifetime deal on this one software that made my life so much

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easier. It helped me Make show notes. Oh, let me

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guess. Cast Magic? Yes. Oh, I love

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Cast Magic. Yes. Cast Magic is like a game changer.

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I love Cast Magic. Yes. That was

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like, this is what's gonna happen. I can do a show now.

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And they just keep making it better and better. You can put

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in your own prompts for each episode, and then

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every time it comes up with The key objectives

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from the audio or Instagram

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posts Yes. Suggestions for reels.

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This is like magic. It is magic. It has magic. Yes. Exactly.

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It's beautiful. So I was very, very pleased with that, and I

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was like, oh my god. This is the thing. Now I can really do this.

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Yeah. That's definitely a game changer. Yeah. I started out

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Just listening to the episodes and writing down my notes,

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and once I moved over to using Cast Magic,

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Total total game changer. It's just so much quicker now. Yeah.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. And that was the big thing. It's like, wait.

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I wanna deliver this weekly, and I gotta not only come up with

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a topic, talk about it, record it, edit it, then I

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gotta listen to it and write show notes, And then I gotta do

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some content to promote. This is a bit much. Maybe I should do it

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once a month. No. That's not often enough. We do not wanna do that.

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So Cast Magic. That made the difference for

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me. Definitely. And just so

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our listeners know, you Do a solo

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podcast? Yes. Right now, you're not actually interviewing

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guests. It's just you. And when you said 10 minute

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Episodes, I thought, oh, well, that's great. You can have more episodes

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by cutting them into smaller little bite sized chunks,

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which is great. You can just keep talking repeatedly

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for another episode. Well, actually,

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what I do is I do a 10 minute episode, And and I'd stop,

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and I edit it, and I get it ready, and I set it up to

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publish. I'm trying to get to the point if I Stop

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overbooking myself to just take a weekend and do

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several episodes. Mhmm. Because I look back at Oprah When she did

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her show daily on The Oprah Show, she used to do

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several episodes at a time. They would literally record

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Multiple episodes of her show, each sitting. So they put

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in long workdays, but they got really good

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shows, and they just scheduled the guests out at different times for the

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shows. And it made it easier to do

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a quality show without having to worried

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that something might happen the next day or whatever because you had to be live

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every day. So they always had several shows backed up.

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I didn't realize that she actually batched them up like that. She did.

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Yeah. Yeah. That is cool to know. Yes. I'm Going to get to

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the point where I can batch up my episodes like that too.

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But right now, that's a vision in my head.

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Well, I've had that vision in my head too to do the batching ahead of

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time. And for one reason or another, it hasn't yet

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happened. But Yeah. It's a little harder when you have guests you gotta

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schedule in too and all of that, so I don't have that

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issue. I know somebody. Actually, someone that we both

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know, Karen Robinson. With her podcast, I

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think she is booked out. She has recorded 6 months

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in advance. Wow. And then

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they're just sitting there to be edited, and she has a a team

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or a team member who does the editing for her. And that was, like,

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a year ago Where she told me that she was recording in

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September from the following May.

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Wow. So that's even more than 6 months. So

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That just kinda blew me away, and I like, gosh. I wanna be like that.

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I wanna be able to get that far in advance, but it hasn't

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happened yet, and I will put that qualifier on there. Hasn't happened

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yet. I just I love doing interviews. I love

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having guests on. And for me, it's A couple of

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different reasons. I don't have to think of the content every show.

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I do more of a hybrid, so sometimes I'll have a Solo

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cast episode. Yeah. I just love sharing

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wisdom from other people too. So Yeah. I think

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in some way, I may have A guest here or there, but it would

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be a special episode, and it's not gonna happen all the

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time. But there are people I think would

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really give value to my audience. And so I

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would probably promote that in advance that it's gonna be the special episode

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that they're gonna be on, Then have to go on and then promote it again.

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Most of the episodes, what I wanna share, I can share. And

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it's easier for me to manage it And make it all happen

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if I can just sit down whenever I can sit down and do it.

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Only have 1 person to schedule. There you go. There you go.

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Well, this has been great. Before I let you go, I have

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a few, what I call the fast on your feet questions.

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Mhmm. And I love, Like I just said, I

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love interviewing other people and sharing the wisdom. So,

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Pam, tell me, what's the best piece of business advice you've ever been given?

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I would say the best piece of business advice I've ever been

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given is be yourself

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And keep it simple. Yes.

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That's it. Be yourself and keep it simple. What more can one

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say. That's right. Be yourself and keep it

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simple. Yep. I love that. What would you

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say is a book that everybody should read? So

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there's 1 book that I know everybody always says. But the other

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book that I think everybody should read It's called The

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Big Leap Oh, yes. Hendrix. That

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book changed my life. That book is so

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powerful Because it really is about stepping into

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your own genius Mhmm. And recognizing that

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you have a genius and that you need to step into it. Yeah. So that's

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the book I would recommend to everybody. And then, of course, I would say

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Atomic Habits to help support you getting into that genius. Right. It

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is a two for there. Alright. Yeah.

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Atomic Habits is a great book as well. Yeah. I think The Big Leap,

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I probably read that one Either 2 times or 3 times,

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I I've gone through. And every time I read it, there's nuggets that you

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get because you're in a different place. Yep. So Every

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time. That's a good one. Yeah. I I think

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people should read that book at least once a year. It's a good book,

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and it really elevates Your game if

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you're open to it. That's a good

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idea to read it every year and maybe at the beginning of the year Mhmm.

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To kind of set the tone for that year, tell me your

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favorite quote. My favorite quote? Wow.

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My favorite quote is that and it's different

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than what you're gonna expect. But my favorite

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quote is that I'm a spiritual being

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having a human experience. Okay. Left field. Right?

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Yeah. No. No. I'm Processing. That one. That's great.

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Yeah. You're right. I wasn't expecting that. I don't know what I was

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expecting, but I wasn't expecting that. Thank

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you for that. Alright. And the last question I have in our fast on

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your feet is if you had 1 takeaway from our episode

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today, What one golden nugget would you want all the

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listeners to walk away with from our talk? I want

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them to know that finding the courage has nothing to do

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with the absence of fear, that they

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can own their strengths and differences And share their

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message regardless of the fear if they're willing to be

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courageous. Yes. Somebody's out there waiting to hear them.

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Somebody's out there waiting for the message that only they can deliver in

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the way they deliver. That's beautiful. Now

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I know a lot of our listeners are gonna wanna get in touch with you,

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and I think you've got something that you wanna share with our listeners. Can you

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tell us about that? So, yeah, I have a a free gift that I

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wanna give you guys. It's a visibility journal.

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And inside the journal, I share some prompts. I talk with you about

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why it is that you're getting stuck and how to get unstuck,

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and I give you some prompts to help you Go through that and go

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through the thoughts and the exercises that's keeping you stuck so that

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you can journal your way through some of it. We're gonna

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put the links in the show notes. Right. That'll be in the show notes.

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And Yeah. But but it's as easy as it sounds is building

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visibility .com, which is my site Mhmm. And it's

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free visibility journal. Okay.

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That will be in the show notes, so you can actually just click on it

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and go straight over there, and get that visibility journal, and start going

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through those prompts. And, Pam, where you mostly hang out

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on social media? Where can people connect with you? I have a lot of different

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social medias, but where I hang out most of the time is in my

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Facebook group, and I really invite you to join it. It's

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for women who feel invisible that are really

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struggling to be seen, and it's all about helping you fix that. It's on

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Facebook groups at Building Visibility.

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That's the whole name at Facebook groups at Building

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Visibility, and you'll find me there. I do a weekly

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livestream, And I have posts. I talk to people

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there, and my live streams are actually a

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training. And I started those out Short and simple too, but now they're

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actually trainings pretty much every week to help you

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move forward. I know you're very prolific over there. You're very

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active in that group. So Yeah. Yeah. That's a great place to connect with you.

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Yeah. Alright. I will make sure that I have all the social

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media Links and the freebie and your website,

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all of those things will be in the show notes, so people can find you

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very easily there. This has been great. Pam, thank you

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so much for sharing your wisdom and your

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experience with starting your podcast and with what you're doing in the world

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today. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you for having me. This has

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been a pleasure for real. So yes. Alright. And thank

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