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It is episode two and...WE'RE COMING FOR YOU, BROTHER! Wiki-maniacs, your hosts get deep into learning about kayfabe! The commentary on the definition of kayfabe, how kayfabe is used.

We break kayfabe this episode because we will be reading some fan fiction involving, John Cena and Randy Orton. It definitely came out of nowhere and you can't unhear it.

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Resources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/hx9316/orange_cassidy_warhorse_samoa_joe_and_the_idea_of/

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/7au1yl/what_is_some_strange_kayfabe_logic_that_weve_just/

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/adalih/theres_a_new_twitter_account_that_tweets_nothing/

https://archiveofourown.org/works/2253234

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[00:00:41] Sean: episode and formerly of the Dumbfoundead podcast, Filipino celebrity himself. I want to call

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[00:00:58] Sean: What's up boys. How are y'all feeling? [00:01:00] Shit.

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[00:01:03] So now I'm debating on whether I should ask him autograph or not.

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[00:01:18] Sean: just a white Canadian Filipino blogger, Josh. Yeah, that's true.

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[00:01:27] Sean: I'll make it.

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[00:01:28] John: it. You guys put just Josh in, you know.

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[00:01:32] Josh: good podcast name. Why haven't I thought of this? You're

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[00:01:40] Josh: just the job I have. I have two Griff's now every episode I'm going to learn a new grift. That's going to be my thing.

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[00:02:09] And if you are a wrestling fan you can laugh with John and I, as Josh is confused for like the next hour or so you said, okay. SAB K five. No, FAPE my guy.

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[00:02:25] Sean: continue. All right. So before I get started on reading the, the entrance or the entrance, the fuck, am I saying the first paragraph on the Wikipedia page?

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[00:02:46] Josh: I mean, from what I know well about wrestling, which is very little all wrestlers have nicknames. So if I had to go on a, like a guess, I would say it's maybe, maybe a certain wrestlers nickname and he's [00:03:00] famous or infamous for something that he did.

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[00:03:07] John: You're cold. My God. I mean, you can be a little

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[00:03:29] Spoil the whole episode for me,

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[00:03:59] [00:04:00] That's

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[00:04:25] Specifically the portrayal of competition, rivalries and relationships between participants as being genuine and not staged the term kayfabe has evolved to also become a code word for sorts, for maintaining this quote reality within direct or indirect presence of the general public. Okay. So in America, kayfabe is often seen as the suspension of disbelief that is used to create the non wrestling aspects of promotions, such as feuds, angles, and gimmicks [00:05:00] in a manner similar to other forms of fictional entertainment.

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[00:05:40] Very cool. So does, does that make sense to you Josh? Like how the term is used?

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[00:06:07] How did it become this kayfabe fake wrestling in professional? Like when did it, why did it, why is it different? Is it just like different sports.

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[00:06:29] Well, it's called professional. And then amateur wrestling is like actual collegiate wrestling within the single it on the mat. And the Olympics like Greco, Roman is, is a similar to collegiate, I guess, to amateur wrestling. But yeah, for some reason, I don't know the origins of professional wrestling. But if it feels, I assume I assume promoters did it because you can make more money when you can control what's happening in [00:07:00] there as opposed to straight competition.

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[00:07:26] Sean: I've heard of, is that

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[00:07:32] So he's not only is he a, a WWE talent, but he also fought for a UFC as a wrestler in in I guess like a pretty much a fighter, pretty much

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[00:07:57] Then went to the NFL. Didn't really [00:08:00] make it went back to WW. Then he did some Japanese wrestling and then he did UFC. God damn. And then back to WWE and now he's just hunting out in the woods somewhere. Yeah. Being a scary man. Right. So, so before I get more into kayfabe and more into some topics to talk about, I wanted to go over some wrestling terms.

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[00:08:46] So work, shoot kayfabe. Got it. Does that make sense? Okay. So yeah,

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[00:08:53] Sean: breaking shooting. Well shooting is just a straight up being real. So I guess [00:09:00] not breaking the fourth wall shooting would be like a, if you're in a wrestling match and then let's say you brace, our guy does a move. Yeah.

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[00:09:16] John: I want to, I don't want to confuse you any further, but what Sean just described that's that's called a receipt, giving her a receipt back.

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[00:09:26] John: when it pretty much, when you, when you do a shoot, you go into business for yourself. Right?

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[00:09:42] Josh: Josh. Okay. So the heel is like the bad guy of that.

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[00:09:51] Sean: cheer for. I believe. Yes. Yes, exactly. Nailed it. I'll say this. What do you call it? This is what helped me picture [00:10:00] wrestling and under still enjoyed as an adult is I picture professional wrestling kind of like like a it's pretty much just a movie, except instead of it's like an action musical type deal, you know what I mean?

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[00:10:28] Yeah, exactly. So those are the wrestling terms that are going to be important going forward. We have baby face. We have heal. We have work, we have shoot. And then all of that works under the umbrella term case. Okay. I like it. So back in the day in order to keep kayfabe, so the whole idea of kayfabe is to make wrestling fans believe and suspend reality to make them think professional wrestling is real while they're watching it.

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[00:11:16] So there's stories of like a baby faces, getting gas at a gas station and the heels drive. I went to the gas station. They noticed the baby faces. They're not even allowed to pump gas at the same place. She have to go to another gas station across the street or further down the road to get gas because they can't be seen together.

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[00:11:45] Sean: and beat the shit. Yeah, exactly. But then K Fe belt. I think the kayfabe reason for that would be is that they're not getting fucking paid. You know what I'm saying?

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[00:11:58] Josh: say it would boost [00:12:00] the next fight though. So then you'd get paid more maybe

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[00:12:11] There'd be fights and grocery stores fights and hospitals at best would be fights everywhere. So so other stories involving kayfabe I'll go over some famous ones. There's a wrestling feud between a wrestler called Jerry the king Lawler versus a comedian named Andy. So they had a wrestling feud.

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[00:12:49] And they took it so far that when Andy Kaufman died and Jerry Lawler was still wrestling, they interviewed Jerry Lawler about how he feels about Andy Kaufman. And he kept kayfabe, [00:13:00] even though Andy was dead, she said, I, I, you know, he was like I'm sorry to hear that. But you know, I didn't really like Andy that much.

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[00:13:33] You know what I mean? Like some people really take it to heart. Another huge kayfabe story, John on our Reddit on Wiki, Twitter hinted at this one, it's called the curtain call. So I think in the nineties, there was the WWF, which is now known as WWE and the WCW, right. They were rival companies. So there was a group of wrestlers at the WWF that were [00:14:00] all friends.

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[00:14:24] Kevin Nash, Nash diesel, back that diesel back then big sexy, also known as big sexy. And then we had Scott Hall then known as razor Ramon can, I guess

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[00:14:39] Sean: Oh,

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[00:14:46] Sean: So at that time it was opposite.

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[00:15:01] Josh: I mean, Ray was, sounds like the enemy, you

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[00:15:16] Pretty much just being like a caricature of Scarface. Yeah. It's exactly what it is. So it's kinda I don't know what copying is that brown face, but I dunno. Well, maybe not right

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[00:15:32] Sean: cases. Really bad scraped it. Okay. So, but anyways, those two guys were leaving the company to go to the rival WCW.

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[00:16:10] And then to add even more confusion to that, or I think back then maybe that could be seen as like a, you know, they just fought it out there hugging that's. Okay. And then Scott Hall comes and he gives Shawn Michaels a hug and then that's okay. That's baby face, baby face. But then triple H another wrestler called triple H comes in, who is a healer at the time and gives everybody a hug and then they all hug.

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[00:16:58] Josh: right.

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[00:17:05] Sean: So people had known that it was scripted, but some people refuse to believe that it was scripted until this moment. And then this moment was like a huge, oh, they broke kayfabe, like wrestlers in the back were fucking pissed.

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[00:17:31] John: you don't give him what you're going to give him the wrestling term for that.

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[00:17:36] John: Oh, Josh has another term when someone is being like that.

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[00:17:48] Sean: he got buried for a long time. So right after that, there's a big tournament to like, that's supposed to build like the next main event guy, triple H was booked to win that [00:18:00] tournament. But since he did the curtain call and broke kayfabe, and it was such a big deal that everybody in the back you know, pretty much had to redo it.

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[00:18:29] Right. Nothing they could do there. So that was a huge kayfabe breaking moment and a time when a lot of people really freaked out and then really figured out that, you know, this thing, isn't a real all

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[00:18:47] But after that, it'd be pretty hard to

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[00:18:52] Josh: Yeah. Yeah. People beating they're beating each other up and then hugging it out. Like it's hard to believe that any of [00:19:00] it's real it's like when, when I watch hockey, so my equivalent hockey is when they're playing a hard playoff match. And then at the end they've lost, but they're shaking hands.

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[00:19:12] Sean: Yeah, exactly. This isn't real.

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[00:19:39] They're pretty much going down and kill each other. But now with like what, Sean mentioned that the rise of social media and the transparency of these athletes, everyone's friends now, it's, it's crazy. So in a, in a way, kayfabe on all other sports or other, other stuff too, it's, it's pretty much

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[00:19:59] Josh: Yeah. Like in [00:20:00] some ways I respect the disrespect, you know, like I, I, I enjoy it cause it's like, oh, they're as passionate as I am about this. So I could see why wrestling fans could get upset, upset about, about this. So I understand.

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[00:20:21] There's a running joke. That's saying it's like a saying, they say like, it's still real to us. Dammit. That's that's that pertains to

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[00:20:45] but yeah, not only is kayfabe in there. Not only does kayfabe encompass storylines and things like that. It it also encompasses the things that happen inside the ring, during the match. So kayfabe includes, you know, how [00:21:00] to slam somebody without actually, you know, hurting them, how to, you know, dive off the top rope, you know, they look like they're getting hit, but really, you know, they're catching you and things like that.

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[00:21:29] But back in the day wrestlers would hide small little razorblades and like their risk tape or in their boot, or maybe even like a little pocket in their trunks or underwear, whatever you want to call it. And if it called for it and the story of the match, they would you know, go away in a corner and a little bit look like they're hurt and kind of sneak the blade out of wherever it's hidden and then cut the top of their hairline in order to have a huge cut and then blood and [00:22:00] wrestling that's called getting color.

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[00:22:25] So if you see some like old wrestlers that are like that, we're big into actually maybe mostly any old wrestler, you could see that they have like little scars around their hairline and then a rest in peace. There's a wrestler called new Jack who was in a lot of hardcore matches or, you know, matches that had a lot of weapons and crazy, no rules type of matches.

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[00:23:16] So if you

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[00:23:23] Sean: it's

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[00:23:30] Sean: God damn. There, there are stories. So back in the nineties for, for you, Josh and all the, I don't know where we're calling our fans though.

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[00:23:42] John: That's a good one. What'd you want to do,

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[00:24:05] Where they ran pretty much exclusively, nothing, but these hardcore, no rules matches. And there are stories of guys like after matches being cut by Barb wire, being cut by the edges of the table, you know, cut by the chairs, you know, they would crazy glue their wounds, shut Jesus in order to, you know, heal up and get in the car without getting blood all over their rentals.

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[00:24:56] To go to the next show. It's still like nonstop and

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[00:25:13] Sean: contractors. Oh yeah. They don't have sports. Those benefits, bro.

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[00:25:47] That way they can avoid, you know, paying taxes on some of the states for athletic events and to afford to the need, to meet the requirement of having to employ medical professional standing by. [00:26:00] So in order to get by paying them as employees and paying medical staff to take care of them and paying taxes that regular sports have to take care of fans was just like, fuck it.

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[00:26:20] John: Soon as they, a lot of, a lot of wrestling fans are just, and this is, it's a sad, but they're just waiting for him to expire. Cause he's so I want to say Sean, I don't know if you agree with me on this, but he's, he's, he's just

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[00:26:33] Yeah. Yeah. So that's a huge fan with wrestling or a huge thing with the wrestling fans right now is that. Vince is just I, he's kind of a crazy man. There's like stories that come like you could write a whole book on just like Vince McMahon stories, like personal stories. He's a strange, strange individual.

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[00:27:01] Josh: Is he the one that did the XFL? Yes. Yes. Okay. So yeah, he is

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[00:27:21] And then I think Vince just ended up firing a bunch of them, at least firing one of them as kind of just like a see what's going to happen type of deal. And that was like, that was resource. Like that was like. November last year. I want to

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[00:27:39] Sean: Yes. She's now back with the company she's back, but another clean deleted, she deleted all of her union tweets.

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[00:27:50] John: crazy this bastard is. And please Vincent, man, if you ever hear this, please don't Sue us. We don't have any, yeah. We're not trying to defame you. It's just taking of

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[00:28:01] John: right? Yeah. So pretty much another crazy thing is, you know, we mentioned that they're independent contractors.

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[00:28:30] That's. You can't have a cameo accounts and all that. GABAA YouTube channel. That's not approved by that company. So that's why they were trying to unionize. Could

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[00:28:51] They'll use a work name. Gotcha. So like a whole Cogans real name. Terry Bollea and whole Kogan had said Terry [00:29:00] something. Yeah. It's terrible. Exactly. Stone cold. Steve Austin is Steve Williams. LSD. Was it Steve Williams? Not Williams. Steve Williams. He changed his name to Steve Austin because his first promotion that he went to already had a guy named Dr.

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[00:29:19] John: you can bottom like bottom, like a marketable name. Not at

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[00:29:44] Right? Yeah. So that's why a lot of wrestlers either now wrestle by their name or they buy the rights to their name, like Samoa Joe and AGA styles. There's some mojo and AGA styles, no matter where they go things like that. But a lot of [00:30:00] times, you know, unless you're a big player, you don't really have the clout to try and keep your name.

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[00:30:16] Josh: but everyone knows why he's the rock.

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[00:30:22] Oh yeah. And he, he, him and Vince are so buddy, buddy, cause they've made each other so much money. Like I'm sure he has no issues. If he wanted to buy the rock. Vince would probably give it to him. I mean, he bought XFL

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[00:30:34] Sean: VIN, so that's true. That's true. All right. So another way they use kayfabe is taking real life stories and events and putting it into the story to make some of the most famous stories.

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[00:31:08] Right. So not only were they kayfabe like that, but in real life shoot, they were dating and it was, they were dating for. I don't know the exact years, but pretty much late nineties to mid two thousands. Nice. So kind of towards the end of their relationship, things got Rocky and then she started to date his rival, but his kayfabe rival, but his chute friend, a wrestler named edge.

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[00:32:08] He got fired. And then there was a whole real life thing where in interviews, he was trash talking lead in edge. He was calling them both traders and blah, blah, blah. They went behind his back and blah, blah, blah, trash talking WWE the WWE now at that time. So that got so much traction in real life. And that WW hired him back and then put them immediately into a storyline.

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[00:32:52] Josh: Jesus, I mean, I guess a good way to resolve your issue,

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[00:32:59] Josh: yeah, I [00:33:00] guess not really.

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[00:33:23] Like that would be real shitty.

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[00:33:27] John: program too. I want to say it was about four to six months,

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[00:33:42] They did cage matches. They did hardcore matches. They I'm sure that by the end of it, they had earned each other's respect and they were like, you know, we just made a fuck ton of money. It's cool. But still they found a way to take real life and make it into the storyline. Another huge thing that they do.[00:34:00]

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[00:34:22] So like to casual fans, anything that's not WWE is the Indies. So he was in like big Indies, like ring of honor and things like that. So people had watched his career, you know, throughout the Indies and then come up and be a big time star in WWE. But right before his contract ended, he wasn't planning on re on signing again because he was legitimately sick and tired of the company.

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[00:35:09] So you kind of like a five minute promo, which is now famously known as the pipe bomb. And he pretty much just like broke the fourth wall. A bunch of times was calling wrestlers they're their real names. And they were, he was saying how things work behind stage? You know, how bad it is and blah, blah, blah.

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[00:35:41] Josh: He fought in UFC didn't he?

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[00:35:46] Josh: I was gonna say he got his ass kicked as what I remember.

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[00:35:48] Sean: got his ass kicked shoot shoot, fighting cm. Punk is not good at, but if it's a work, he can, he can sell a story again.

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[00:36:02] Sean: exactly. I mean,

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[00:36:12] So I know the fact that we're talking about cm punk right now. She's probably getting excited. So hi Jade,

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[00:36:19] Josh: How's it going? Why don't you listen to that podcast?

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[00:36:36] Other stuff who knows, but when we come back, we'll go ahead and jump right into the Reddit section of my quote-on-quote research. All right. So see you guys in a little bit. Do you, did you, do you,

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[00:37:09] Remnant. You are invited to listen and listen. Now on apple podcasts, Spotify, audible, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And don't forget your multipass. And we are back. What is up wicked maniacs. We have a name for you guys now. So what is up guys? We're going to jump right into the Reddit section of a, my episode.

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[00:37:59] No, just more [00:38:00] horse, just more horse. Okay, sick. It's just me. Alright. So orange Casty or horse Samoa and the idea of authenticity and wrestling. All right. So I found this article on that article, but post on Reddit and I thought it was pretty interesting. It's a good way of explaining how kayfabe is working in today's environment.

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[00:38:49] And on the other side, you have the modern meadow wrestling fan who likes things like Chuck Taylor's invisible hand grip. DDTs comedic wrestling and they [00:39:00] see wrestling as a medium that has been revealed as fully faked choreographed. And they see no reason not to embrace the truth and lean into it for creative freedoms.

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[00:39:31] Josh: So it's a, this links turned into a, just like an improv team, basically.

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[00:40:01] They like to mix the real stuff with the comedic stuff. And this article is pretty much just saying that the only way to make it work. And this is something that a, those wrestlers that I mentioned earlier, the tongue twister or horse Samoa, Joe and orange Cassidy do is they go so fully into their character on camera and off camera that no matter what it makes sense.

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[00:40:47] So his, his whole thing is just being lazy and not trying. And then it, it just works. He's always that way, unless you like fire him up, like you beat him up or you beat his friends up, [00:41:00] besides that, he'll always be like really lazy, you know? Yeah. And the same thing with Samoa, Joe. Yeah. It is humongous right now.

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[00:41:50] So like MJF, his whole character is being like a rich, a rich asshole is his catch phrase is I'm better than you and you know it. Yep. [00:42:00] Nice. So his whole thing is he's that way, no matter what he'll be interviewed for, you know, talk radio or he'll be interviewed, you know, if they travel and he'll be interviewed for podcasts and he will be his character, he doesn't turn it off ever.

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[00:42:17] Sean: even at audit. Yeah. Even at autograph signings, kids will go up in his line and then he'll fucking lick them off my picture. And so much to where dads will like try and fight him in line. Oh Jesus. So I thought that was super interesting. And then another Reddit post I found. So can

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[00:42:37] Cause go for it because you were stating like there's, there's two sides, like two camps basically, and people are kind of in the middle, but I, I almost appreciate the The polar opposites. Like I, if I was watching wrestling and I knew it was a hundred percent real and these people were like beating the shit out of each other, I would appreciate that.

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[00:43:20] And then just see what ridiculous stuff they come up with. I think that would be super interesting to watch too. I mean, I'm probably alone in this, as you said, most people are kind of in the middle, but I think it'd be cool if they did like, like split it into two w WFS or whatever you're calling it.

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[00:44:11] Yeah. So there's a company in Japan and called DDT and they almost do exclusively nothing, but comedy matches and like weird stuff. They had a wrestler named Coda booshie. He wrestled a straight up, blow up doll. And like the blow up doll was like flipping him around. He was slamming the blowup doll to blow up doll was picking him up and

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[00:44:37] John: Exactly. Oh my God, there's this. Oh, that's the next grift person. The allegations that were said, but there's this guy named Joey Ryan.

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[00:44:49] John: awful human being. There's a lot of like, this is not even a speculation at this point. I don't know if it was all real.

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[00:45:16] And then he would just like, move like this and then his opponent will flip and then it got so ridiculous to the point that there would be sometimes a train like that. Okay. So it would be like one person. Joey Ryan's junk and another, person's going to grab the other person's from behind. And it's like a human centipede of grabbing and everyone would flip in the same time.

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[00:46:00] There was a lot of how shows, how shows pretty much gave a lot of these wrestlers who are not really seen on TV yet. The free reign to get creative.

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[00:46:13] John: televised at all. So they they're just like in your small, it's a smaller venue. It's probably like a, a hall somewhere.

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[00:46:39] There's been instances where like, you can flip, you can try, like, maybe you're a baby face on a regular show, but this night you get to be a heel. So that's when they get to experiment and get to try things out. And it's it gets pretty interesting, but like to, to Sean's point, like there is a lot of different promotions out there that puts out products for

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[00:47:00] Yeah. Okay. I would say right now, The most like catering to every single kind of fan would be all elite wrestling. And they started up like two years ago. They have, they have, you know, the American style storylines, you know, bleeding and crazy stuff and kind of like soap opera, but then they also have like the comedy stuff, but then they also have kind of like Japanese style, which is like really hard hitting and things like that.

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[00:47:43] So this one is from Mello Jr. This is what are some of the strangest kayfabe logic that we have just accepted? Okay. John, you could kind of put yourself in this. You can kind of give your own if you want, but I'll read some, this one is that. [00:48:00] Wrestlers can do all types of flips turns and dives off the top rope and through the rope and out of the ring.

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[00:48:35] Oh, it's so impossible. And then five seconds later, they're doing double back, flips off the top rope, jumping through the ring, slamming each other, but then when they got to climb the ladder again, they're like, oh no. And it takes me five minutes. So that's a huge thing. Another person wrote, that's kind of like

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[00:48:52] Oh no, no, no. Yeah, go for it. Like it's like right before the apex of the big fight and they're like heeled over and like, they have no strength [00:49:00] left. And then like five minutes later, they're like doing flips and shit like, like spike. I just watched excited man far from home and he was like, kick the shit out of, and then he goes and just does a bunch of flips and destroys all of the drones.

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[00:49:14] Sean: He just closes his eyes. Yeah, fucking another one that says, and Joshua, like this one that in theory, the WWE has no qualms with hiring the undead supernatural beings, a burn victim and crazy Colts to fight in a traveling circus and behave and, and respect the current rules of professional wrestling.

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[00:49:40] Josh: So they have

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[00:49:56] John: know the Bible says that the ministry of darkness played by the [00:50:00] undertaker back in the

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[00:50:01] So we're all supposed to believe is a straight up dead guy. Yeah. Just walking around.

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[00:50:22] He's like the classic WWE guy, every interview that he's done for probably the past 30 years, super by the book, he never goes out of character, but I think he started to see like the cultural shift on how kayfabe is like in the modern era. Now, right now you see now you see him like going on like UFC events.

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[00:50:57] Josh: well, good for him for adjusting. Yeah. [00:51:00]

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[00:51:03] This is from username, Kali wog. There's a new Twitter account that tweets nothing but excerpts from rot, erotic WWE fan fiction. And it is something. So what I've done here is gone to that Twitter account for research, gone to their website, found the shortest erotic WWE fan fiction I could find. And we're going to end the episode by us reading it together as hosts.

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[00:51:50] John: me just figure out how to open the chat.

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[00:51:58] Sean: All right. [00:52:00] Wicked maniacs. We are reading cookies written by eyes to the underscore sky. I'll start us off. The summary is arguing. Hesitant has its advantages. If the makeup sex is good, seen slash Orton smut PWP, I don't know what that stands for. And I'm scared to find out. All right, so I'll go ahead and start.

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[00:52:29] Sean: We're going to be playing everything brother. You better believe it. All right, so I'll start. And then John will go and then Josh will go and we'll just switch it off paragraph by paragraph. All right, here we go.

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[00:52:55] Josh: me, or go ahead, go ahead.

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[00:53:02] John: Josh. You're good. I'm going to read this in a deep voice. Randy glared at his crude lover.

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[00:53:22] Josh: John's face fell is Randy smirked only to glare as John grinned again. So I'll have Adam bring me some more or something. Brett had him bring me some Betty crocker

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[00:53:33] Randy. Grell storming off as John laughed, watching MTV

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[00:53:42] Josh: say the C-word cunt. Randy yelled back

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[00:53:50] John: You fucking Cocksucking Jack ass mother fucker. Randy yelled angrily as John snickered quietly.

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[00:54:00] Sean: No. Sorry. Thanks all wrong.

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[00:54:08] Josh: I love it. No. Sorry, Randy, your, the cocksucker John called winching as he heard a pan drop. Oh, oh, oh. He murmured getting up as Randy came, flying up the stairs, lunging himself towards John shit, John growled catching them and slamming them on the bed.

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[00:54:35] I gotta read this next

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[00:54:37] Sean: read it, bro. Like, all

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[00:54:45] Wait. Now I gotta say the sire. Fuck me, Randy growl. Does he catch on God and the mouth? I think I can do that. John murmur, every article of clothing and his way on your knees gone[00:55:00]

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[00:55:18] Josh: is you're breaking cafe.

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[00:55:21] Josh: break a game thing. Oh, I think I got the worst one though.

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[00:55:33] again,

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[00:55:37] Josh: heard, or Randy growled as John nibbled at his show, he grabbed Randy shoulder for leverage. As he ripped Randy back pushing forward. You liked that, huh? Slut talked to Randy as round slamming back against you.

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[00:56:16] Josh: Randy cried out. As he came

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[00:56:33] John: Now can I have some cookies, John ass with a smart Randy busted out laughing.

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[00:56:47] John smirk. Does he leaned back and closed his eyes? And he got a good fuck and gets his cookies too, but he's good.

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[00:57:03] Oh man, expect fan fiction from that, just the end of every episode I do will include

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[00:57:14] Sean: baby. Here we go.

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[00:57:23] Sean: Oh, incredibly uncomfortable.

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[00:57:26] Sean: I, I pretty much picked the one with like the lowest amount of words.

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[00:57:48] Josh: is this what they want the WWE to become is just a sex fan. I don't know. I mean, they'd probably pay for that to be honest there's days, there's

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[00:58:01] That's true.

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[00:58:05] Sean: going to see John Siena and Randy Orton the same again. Never, never. What am I going to do with you, Johnny?

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[00:58:17] Sean: too. What? An awful line to end

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[00:58:26] The bed on the last paragraph there. You got a good fucking cookies

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[00:58:53] And yeah, besides that. You can follow my other podcast called shots on thoughts. We released same day. So you can [00:59:00] get double Decker every Monday. And yeah, that's my only plugs for today. John, what do you got?

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[00:59:13] So make sure to support us, like, like Sean mentioned, if you, like, if you enjoy us, please leave us a review. Follow us on all the social media platforms. Most importantly, engage with us. You know, if you got any stories you want, you have any suggestions that you want us to cover in a terrible way. Maybe Sean can find another erotic fucking fanfiction on this ship.

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[00:59:42] Josh: by only I only plug is a deaf. Go try. Randy's cookies. They're worth

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[01:00:00] John: I got anymore because

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[01:00:12] Josh: Yeah. That's my plug. I'm good.

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[01:00:25] So get all the episodes in that you can, we appreciate our listens and the love and yeah, that's it for this week. We'll see you guys next week later. Canceled canceled, canceled. Definitely episode two.