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Speaker:We're addressing a topic.
Speaker:I don't hear covered much at all.
Speaker:As women who've reached middle age,
Speaker:we have so much to offer to others and ourselves.
Speaker:It's a time when we analyze what we want for the
Speaker:second half of our life and decide what's really important.
Speaker:We can release the expectations that in the past we felt
Speaker:we needed to live up to,
Speaker:and now do things for ourselves.
Speaker:Maybe it's starting a second career or picking up a past
Speaker:interest or new activity that you've always considered.
Speaker:We're going to talk about why now is your time,
Speaker:how to reconnect with yourself and to get re-introduced to your
Speaker:passions. You'll also learn about the concept of no zero days
Speaker:and the details of this very important stage in our life,
Speaker:the Maven years.
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:I am.
Speaker:So looking forward to this conversation,
Speaker:I'd like to introduce you to Jennifer Arthurton,
Speaker:she's the creator and founder of old chicks.
Speaker:No-show a community designed to inspire and support midlife women in
Speaker:chasing their dreams and creating their ass.
Speaker:Next chapter,
Speaker:Jennifer is an empowerment coach podcast,
Speaker:host writer and speaker having made her own midlife course correction.
Speaker:She is a passionate advocate of the inherent power and knowledge
Speaker:that women possess at a time when they often feel overlooked
Speaker:and doubt themselves the most,
Speaker:like I said,
Speaker:I can not wait to get into this conversation,
Speaker:Jennifer, welcome to the gift biz unwrapped podcast.
Speaker:Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker:I think this is going to resonate with a lot of
Speaker:our listeners here,
Speaker:but before we get into that,
Speaker:I have a question that I like to ask each guest,
Speaker:because it gives us a creative and different way of understanding
Speaker:who you are.
Speaker:And that is by having you describe yourself as a motivational
Speaker:candle. So if you were to envision a candle that really
Speaker:would speak all you,
Speaker:Jennifer, what would it look like by a color?
Speaker:And then a quote or a saying?
Speaker:Yeah, That question so much.
Speaker:So my candle self is white.
Speaker:She is very bright and her mantra is chase your dreams.
Speaker:It's never too late.
Speaker:It is never too late seriously.
Speaker:And this aligns completely with the topic,
Speaker:right? Do you find that a lot of people feel like
Speaker:it is too late?
Speaker:Yeah. I mean,
Speaker:we live in a culture that basically says,
Speaker:especially to women,
Speaker:that as soon as you get into your forties and your
Speaker:fifties, it's like downhill slope to old age oblivion,
Speaker:which is simply not true.
Speaker:And when I was forced to begin,
Speaker:reinventing my life at the age of 50,
Speaker:I actually bought into that for quite a long time,
Speaker:like who starts over at 50?
Speaker:Like what's even possible at this point.
Speaker:Like, aren't I supposed to be riding off into the retirement
Speaker:sunset, but no,
Speaker:here I am starting over.
Speaker:No, no,
Speaker:not yet.
Speaker:That is what is positioned to us.
Speaker:Like if you think about it through media and advertising and
Speaker:even just cultural belief,
Speaker:but that's kind of the way that it's positioned to us.
Speaker:And so when we think about starting something new or starting
Speaker:over and we might be in our forties or fifties,
Speaker:it feels like an act of rebellion.
Speaker:Almost Add in people starting in their sixties too.
Speaker:But I remember when I was younger,
Speaker:like I would hear midlife crisis and all that.
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:yeah, yeah,
Speaker:yeah, whatever.
Speaker:But then when I experienced it and I'm thinking everyone experiences
Speaker:at different levels and different intensities,
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:yeah, this is real.
Speaker:I get it.
Speaker:And I'm sure we'll get into some of those stories back
Speaker:and forth a little bit.
Speaker:But before we do that,
Speaker:I'd love to hear your,
Speaker:So I was a corporate executive.
Speaker:I had a 30 year corporate career in marketing.
Speaker:I was a wife.
Speaker:I was a mother.
Speaker:I call myself a gym rat.
Speaker:Like I was the person who was in the gym at
Speaker:6:00 AM before going to work every day.
Speaker:And then in the year leading up to my 50th birthday,
Speaker:I found myself divorced,
Speaker:empty, nested.
Speaker:My daughter moved three hours away to go to school.
Speaker:I lost my job and I became bedridden with a stress-related
Speaker:illness. Oh my gosh.
Speaker:So everything hit you at once.
Speaker:Like a complete life change,
Speaker:Complete life change.
Speaker:It was like,
Speaker:my life was going in one direction.
Speaker:And then within the span of a year,
Speaker:it had completely like everything that was available to me,
Speaker:every identity that I had in the world was basically stripped
Speaker:away. Like I had no idea who I was.
Speaker:So there I was at age 50 lying in my bed
Speaker:feeling very sorry for myself,
Speaker:throwing huge PD parties.
Speaker:Well in physically not feeling well either I'm understanding Basically I
Speaker:couldn't even get out of bed like to go grocery shopping
Speaker:was like an act of heroism.
Speaker:Like I could not go grocery shopping and then put the
Speaker:groceries away after I would have to like rest.
Speaker:There was a lot of days where I couldn't get out
Speaker:of bed.
Speaker:My body was just saying,
Speaker:Nope, we are not doing this.
Speaker:And so even that part,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:and I have a story about how much I try to
Speaker:control and manipulate the situation that was happening to me.
Speaker:But like every part of who I thought I was at
Speaker:the age of 50 was no longer available to me.
Speaker:And the scary part was I realized that I had no
Speaker:idea who I was or what I wanted.
Speaker:So there's part of me,
Speaker:that's saying like,
Speaker:who starts over at 50?
Speaker:Is this even possible?
Speaker:What's possible.
Speaker:Like, how do I do this?
Speaker:What are people going to think?
Speaker:Right. And then there's another part of me was just like
Speaker:too tired to even think about it.
Speaker:Were you happy with your life before?
Speaker:Like, were you satisfied in your corporate job and the way
Speaker:your life was set up before the big blast of it?
Speaker:So here's the thing.
Speaker:When I look back on it,
Speaker:it's very typical.
Speaker:Like I would find myself in moments,
Speaker:kind of looking around at my life and going is this,
Speaker:it is like this,
Speaker:all there is,
Speaker:is this what I worked so hard for?
Speaker:And like,
Speaker:I'd be in the boardroom and I'd be just kind of
Speaker:zoning out of a meeting and thinking,
Speaker:wow, this is it.
Speaker:And so those thoughts would come up periodically and I would
Speaker:immediately push them away because I'm like,
Speaker:first of all,
Speaker:back to real life,
Speaker:I got a job to do here.
Speaker:And when I look at it now,
Speaker:I was actually too afraid to even acknowledge those thoughts.
Speaker:Because if I acknowledged it,
Speaker:I was going to have to do something about it.
Speaker:And the thought of like,
Speaker:for example,
Speaker:leaving a 30 year career in a global world-renowned organization,
Speaker:I was paid well,
Speaker:I had amazing job perks.
Speaker:And for the most part I did like my job,
Speaker:but there was this nagging part of me that was just
Speaker:kinda like,
Speaker:Hmm. I wonder if there's more,
Speaker:there has to be more,
Speaker:this can't be it because my whole career,
Speaker:like my whole life,
Speaker:basically that led to that point was me doing everything that
Speaker:I thought I should do.
Speaker:So go to school,
Speaker:get good grades,
Speaker:go to a good college,
Speaker:get a good job,
Speaker:work your way up through the corporate ranks.
Speaker:And I did all of that.
Speaker:And then I got to the top and I was kind
Speaker:of like,
Speaker:wow, okay.
Speaker:This is it.
Speaker:This is what I worked for.
Speaker:This was my whole life.
Speaker:This was my achievement.
Speaker:And it just felt a little bit empty.
Speaker:I was like,
Speaker:they had to be more Interesting.
Speaker:Okay. So what happens Next?
Speaker:So after many months I will say of simply everyday asking.
Speaker:So I started a process of like journaling.
Speaker:I started meditating and after a process of daily going through
Speaker:these processes of asking the question,
Speaker:like, who am I like really underneath it all?
Speaker:Who am I?
Speaker:And what is it,
Speaker:what do I want?
Speaker:I started taking the tiniest little steps that I could towards
Speaker:just doing anything.
Speaker:So I would go for a 10 minute walk in nature
Speaker:and I'd be like,
Speaker:okay, that felt good.
Speaker:Cause that's all I could manage for that day.
Speaker:And then it would be back to bed or,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I started feeling a tug to start writing.
Speaker:So I just started journaling my thoughts and writing about my
Speaker:experience. And one thing led to another and I just kept
Speaker:following what are the things that I'm liking like,
Speaker:oh, I really liked that experience.
Speaker:Let me do that again.
Speaker:And I just kept following what I call following the energy.
Speaker:So not with a big master plan or anything,
Speaker:just taking actions that felt good to you at the time.
Speaker:Exactly. Because I am a firm believer of when you follow
Speaker:your joy or when you follow your bliss or your intuition,
Speaker:it brings you to more of that.
Speaker:And so we as humans and I think this is a
Speaker:true of everybody.
Speaker:We kind of get into this all or nothing thinking like
Speaker:I'm this or I'm that.
Speaker:And we tend to ignore the steps in between.
Speaker:And for a lot of us,
Speaker:those steps are tiny little things that are just leading us
Speaker:towards things that we love or things that give us energy
Speaker:or things that bring us joy.
Speaker:And the more we do those things,
Speaker:the more of those things that we attract to artists.
Speaker:And we just keep following that chain until I was writing
Speaker:this kind of blog,
Speaker:just for myself about my own experience,
Speaker:my own life,
Speaker:my own process of discovery.
Speaker:And then one day I woke up and I was like,
Speaker:I should publish this in a blog.
Speaker:I was like,
Speaker:what are you doing?
Speaker:Why are you publishing this for the world to see?
Speaker:But I did it.
Speaker:I just was like,
Speaker:okay, I have this instinct and I did it.
Speaker:And I published the blog and I remember like I had
Speaker:to sit on my hands for three days to not delete
Speaker:what I had put out there because I was so afraid
Speaker:of what people would think like,
Speaker:oh my goodness,
Speaker:this woman's lost her marbles.
Speaker:Like what's going on?
Speaker:And then I don't got past the three days and I
Speaker:was like,
Speaker:oh, okay.
Speaker:And then I felt compelled to do it again.
Speaker:And so what started as the blog just kept rolling forward
Speaker:into the podcast,
Speaker:into coaching,
Speaker:into, you know,
Speaker:I am now establishing a charity for midlife women.
Speaker:Like it's all of these things that have literally just evolved
Speaker:in front of me by following my instinct and the things
Speaker:that make me happy and bring me joy.
Speaker:Well, I love your story and it's subtle,
Speaker:but powerful.
Speaker:Just the comments that you're making about,
Speaker:just do a tiny step,
Speaker:just do one activity,
Speaker:one thing.
Speaker:And I think that that resonates with a lot of us
Speaker:who are listening here is maybe we have jobs already.
Speaker:We are happy in them,
Speaker:but there's something behind the scenes that saying,
Speaker:oh, I want to try this.
Speaker:I might like this.
Speaker:And hearing your story.
Speaker:It started with one blog article.
Speaker:Granted, you delayed putting it out for a couple days,
Speaker:but it was just one you weren't saying,
Speaker:I'm going to start this big,
Speaker:massive blog and people are going to loosen and there's going
Speaker:to be articles like you didn't go into all of that.
Speaker:You tested it to see how you felt about it.
Speaker:And then it went from there.
Speaker:Yeah. I'm always talking about this and that like taking the
Speaker:tiniest possible step.
Speaker:You think you can take in a direction of something that
Speaker:you want,
Speaker:right? Because again,
Speaker:it's this,
Speaker:like, I must take big leaps and bounds to get there.
Speaker:When the reality is those tiny little steps,
Speaker:add up to massive things in a much shorter space of
Speaker:time that you can imagine.
Speaker:But one of the things that I've been trying to do
Speaker:is get back into yoga.
Speaker:And so I have this thing that I called no zero
Speaker:days, whereas I have to do something in the direction of
Speaker:that goal every day.
Speaker:And sometimes those things are okay today.
Speaker:All I need to do is just roll out my mat
Speaker:and stand on it for three minutes.
Speaker:And then I can check that that wasn't a zero day.
Speaker:Like I actually did something in that direction.
Speaker:It's not a huge leap or bound.
Speaker:I didn't do a one hour practice that left me feeling
Speaker:amazing. Like all I feel capable of today is rolling out
Speaker:my mat and standing on it well.
Speaker:And likely when you take to use that example specifically,
Speaker:when you stand at that mat,
Speaker:you're going to do a stretcher too.
Speaker:Or then you're going to say,
Speaker:I'm going to do a pose or to,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:at one thing leads to another,
Speaker:but you start with the mindset of rolling out the mat
Speaker:and standing on it.
Speaker:That's it?
Speaker:Because whenever we're trying to establish a new habit or a
Speaker:new goal,
Speaker:our natural normal human brains will try and keep us in
Speaker:our comfort zone.
Speaker:Right? Like it'll throw every obstacle at you and can show
Speaker:every reason at you why you shouldn't do that thing.
Speaker:And the way to fool your brain is to do the
Speaker:tiniest little thing.
Speaker:Cause like you said,
Speaker:the tiniest little step leads to another tiny step.
Speaker:And then you look at the week and you're like,
Speaker:wow, I got on my yoga mat seven times this week.
Speaker:And I actually did like a 15 minute practice.
Speaker:Yeah. That's a couple hours that you wouldn't have done otherwise.
Speaker:So I think this direction is wonderful.
Speaker:Also for those who are listening,
Speaker:who are saying,
Speaker:I know I want to do something else,
Speaker:but I don't know what that is yet.
Speaker:How do I figure it out?
Speaker:And it's not like all of a sudden you're sleeping and
Speaker:in the middle of the night you wake up and you're
Speaker:like, I've got it.
Speaker:No, that doesn't happen that way.
Speaker:But a lot of people struggle with,
Speaker:well, what is it going to be for me?
Speaker:And so to your point about testing different things,
Speaker:doing what feels good,
Speaker:dipping your toe in the water of whatever you think would
Speaker:be interesting.
Speaker:Not that that's going to be the thing,
Speaker:but it could lead you to the thing.
Speaker:And the other part of that is I truly believe that
Speaker:we all have the answers that we are searching for inside
Speaker:of us.
Speaker:The problem is for most of us,
Speaker:we have become really disconnected from ourselves.
Speaker:So life is busy.
Speaker:We live in the information age where we're getting a billion
Speaker:pieces of information thrown at us every day,
Speaker:we got all of our jobs and our obligations and our
Speaker:duties that we have to take care of.
Speaker:And in that process,
Speaker:we become totally disconnected from who we are and what makes
Speaker:us happy.
Speaker:Like what's our joy.
Speaker:So definitely for me,
Speaker:I realized as I was lying there in my bed,
Speaker:staring at the ceiling going,
Speaker:I've got no clue who I am.
Speaker:I have no clue what makes me happy.
Speaker:And so I had to spend some time going inwards,
Speaker:which is why I took up a meditation practice.
Speaker:It was like in my meditation practice,
Speaker:again started with three minutes of just sitting in silence and
Speaker:just paying attention to my breath.
Speaker:It was just a way to calm my brain down enough
Speaker:to see what thoughts came out.
Speaker:And it was through that process where for example,
Speaker:it would be like,
Speaker:okay, just go for a 10 minute walk in nature.
Speaker:Okay. I'm like,
Speaker:all right,
Speaker:I can do that.
Speaker:No problem.
Speaker:And then it's like,
Speaker:I had never written anything in my life other than like
Speaker:a corporate presentation or things like that.
Speaker:And that kind of came up in that space when I
Speaker:was like,
Speaker:okay, all right,
Speaker:we're going to write.
Speaker:And then I discovered,
Speaker:wow. It kind of really like writing.
Speaker:And then the podcast came about because I started talking to
Speaker:other women about their experiences.
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:if I'm going through this other women have to be like,
Speaker:where are all these amazing women who are creating these amazing
Speaker:next chapters?
Speaker:They have to be out there somewhere.
Speaker:So I went in search of them and I started having
Speaker:these conversations and I was like,
Speaker:okay, you need to record these conversations.
Speaker:I had never,
Speaker:even the thought ever dreamed about starting a podcast.
Speaker:And I have to say,
Speaker:it's probably the thing that I do that brings me the
Speaker:most amount of joy.
Speaker:Like I am so lit up after I do a podcast.
Speaker:I'm like floating on air for the rest of the,
Speaker:I know,
Speaker:are you like me?
Speaker:Like after I record an episode that I know is just
Speaker:going to be so valuable,
Speaker:just like after I press the button so that our recording
Speaker:is over,
Speaker:I just get this rush in me.
Speaker:Yeah. It's wonderful.
Speaker:Yeah. And this is the thing.
Speaker:So it's getting connected with yourself enough that you can kind
Speaker:of hear that inner voice.
Speaker:What do you want to call it?
Speaker:Your intuition or there's bigger spiritual context to it,
Speaker:but whatever it is,
Speaker:it's just to quiet yourself enough that you can hear what's
Speaker:coming from inside you because we all have the answers.
Speaker:Well, you know,
Speaker:it would be nice if we could just go to the
Speaker:file cabinet.
Speaker:That's titled here is your answer.
Speaker:But unfortunately it doesn't work that way.
Speaker:Although some of us don't get to as dramatic a place
Speaker:in life as you did.
Speaker:And in a way,
Speaker:I guess you tell me if this is how you feel
Speaker:about it,
Speaker:but it was kind of good that that happened because the
Speaker:intensity of it led you to what you're doing,
Speaker:because what you ended up needing to do is your solution
Speaker:was pretty much for your own survival,
Speaker:a hundred.
Speaker:I consider it probably the greatest gift I've ever had in
Speaker:my life.
Speaker:Because what I realized,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I alluded to this before is I was acting out of
Speaker:obligation. I was doing what I thought I should be doing.
Speaker:And nowhere along the way,
Speaker:did I actually check in with myself to say,
Speaker:is this making you happy?
Speaker:Is this bringing you joy?
Speaker:Is this how you want to be spending your time?
Speaker:I never considered that.
Speaker:I was just like,
Speaker:here's the path that was laid out in front of me.
Speaker:It's like,
Speaker:okay, follow along.
Speaker:And I truly believe that this is the power of midlife.
Speaker:And why so many of us kind of have these moments
Speaker:of consideration about how do I want to spend the next
Speaker:20, 30,
Speaker:40, 50 years of my life is because when we reach
Speaker:that point in midlife,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:everything in our lives are shifting at that point.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:we are experiencing menopause.
Speaker:Our kids are leaving home and maybe our careers are changing.
Speaker:And it really is a point where we get to,
Speaker:we have the opportunity to stop and consider ourselves sometimes like
Speaker:me for the first time ever in my life,
Speaker:right. To say,
Speaker:what is important to me?
Speaker:Like what do I want my life to be?
Speaker:And I truly,
Speaker:100% believe that this shift in our lives,
Speaker:like all of the things that are happening to us physically,
Speaker:mentally, and emotionally at this time of our lives is not
Speaker:just like a mother nature,
Speaker:forgot about us.
Speaker:It's very intentional to get us focused on ourselves,
Speaker:on what our true,
Speaker:authentic beliefs are,
Speaker:what our gifts are,
Speaker:all of that stuff.
Speaker:It's to stop us like to bring us up short so
Speaker:that we can actually consider these things for the first time
Speaker:maybe ever.
Speaker:And that's literally what it was for me.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I was going along in my life and probably had it
Speaker:not happened.
Speaker:I would still be on that path.
Speaker:Have you ever watched Dr.
Speaker:Phil, have you seen the episodes where he talks,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:it fits with different topics,
Speaker:but he does this thing where he lays out on the
Speaker:floor. However many number of years lifespan is.
Speaker:So let's say for women,
Speaker:it's, I'm picking a number.
Speaker:I don't know what it is,
Speaker:but let's call it 92.
Speaker:Okay. And then he makes a woman stand on the age
Speaker:that she is and have her look back at all the
Speaker:years that have already happened,
Speaker:like all the numbers on the floor and then look forward
Speaker:and you get a real perspective of where you are.
Speaker:And that's so powerful.
Speaker:So I'm just bringing it up because in our minds,
Speaker:I, even,
Speaker:all of us can create our own mind and think about
Speaker:where we are.
Speaker:And I think as we get older,
Speaker:which doesn't happen when you're younger,
Speaker:because when you're younger,
Speaker:you think you have forever,
Speaker:right? Like,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:logically, you're going to get older,
Speaker:but it's so far off in the future,
Speaker:it doesn't matter.
Speaker:And then all of a sudden you wake up one morning
Speaker:and there it is.
Speaker:But the good thing about that,
Speaker:I think Jennifer,
Speaker:tell me what you think is it's time to act because
Speaker:you can't delay any more.
Speaker:Because if you look to Dr.
Speaker:Phil's mine,
Speaker:how much more time do you have?
Speaker:What do you want to waste?
Speaker:Plus you don't know how capable you're going to be for
Speaker:all those years.
Speaker:When you think about the span of a woman's life,
Speaker:I often look at this in chapters.
Speaker:So the first part of her life is the maiden years
Speaker:where it all about attracting a mate,
Speaker:starting a family.
Speaker:Then there's the mother phase,
Speaker:which self-explanatory we raise our families.
Speaker:And then typically what you see is this idea of crone,
Speaker:which is the wizard old woman sitting on the mountain,
Speaker:top sharing wisdom with the world,
Speaker:but in between mother and crone.
Speaker:And like,
Speaker:when I saw that definition,
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:yeah, but I'm not an 80 year old woman yet.
Speaker:Like, I'm not like this old wisdom woman who knows everything.
Speaker:It's like,
Speaker:I wasn't relating to that.
Speaker:So when I looked at the gap between when motherhood,
Speaker:when your typical mothering duties are over and crone,
Speaker:I realized that there is like a 30 to 40 year
Speaker:span of life,
Speaker:which is actually the longest phase of our lives.
Speaker:And it seemed to be ignored everywhere.
Speaker:I looked.
Speaker:And so I returned those years,
Speaker:the Maven years.
Speaker:And if you look at the dictionary definition of the word
Speaker:Maven, it says an expert with knowledge and wisdom to share.
Speaker:So it's not like we know it all.
Speaker:And we've lived this long life and we're sitting on the
Speaker:mountaintop, there's this whole section of time where we have knowledge,
Speaker:we have life experience and we've acquired wisdom through that,
Speaker:but we're still young enough to use that,
Speaker:to actually change the world.
Speaker:And so this whole phase of what I call Maven hood
Speaker:really is about coming back to yourself,
Speaker:coming back to your truest nature,
Speaker:and then figuring out like what it is that you want
Speaker:to do.
Speaker:What's important to you.
Speaker:What legacy do you want to leave?
Speaker:What's the mark that you want to leave behind for your
Speaker:family or your community or whatever that looks like.
Speaker:It sounds like it's really a mindset switch.
Speaker:Also. It's exactly that because you could also be a Maven
Speaker:in your corporate career,
Speaker:you've risen the ranks.
Speaker:If you will.
Speaker:Now you have newbies coming in who you are now teaching
Speaker:versus you in the past,
Speaker:having been a student or aspiring.
Speaker:Exactly. And that's actually how enabled chicks notion came to pass.
Speaker:Because back in my corporate days,
Speaker:when we would have new people join the team and it
Speaker:was a total joke,
Speaker:but one of the things we would say is just follow
Speaker:us old checks.
Speaker:Cause we know some shit,
Speaker:right. And then when I was in that period of figuring
Speaker:out what I was,
Speaker:what's next,
Speaker:it came back and full force.
Speaker:And I was like,
Speaker:oh, this has a whole different meaning now.
Speaker:Well, what do you say?
Speaker:And I've experienced this not too much because I've been running
Speaker:my own business now for quite a while,
Speaker:but I was starting to feel it a little bit.
Speaker:Well, is that true?
Speaker:No, that isn't true.
Speaker:I do sense it sometimes out in my day to day
Speaker:is that as you get older,
Speaker:there are times when you're discounted oh,
Speaker:a hundred percent.
Speaker:So let's talk about that a little bit.
Speaker:I had never,
Speaker:ever experienced that before.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I come from a family where I was the youngest by
Speaker:far. And then even as I was raising the ranks in
Speaker:corporate, I was also the youngest.
Speaker:I had a lot of people to look up to and
Speaker:aspire to be also.
Speaker:And then all of a sudden,
Speaker:when you get to that place,
Speaker:there are less people,
Speaker:less paths to look up to in terms of where you
Speaker:want to go.
Speaker:But there's also that dynamic that your perceived differently 100%.
Speaker:And this is probably the biggest reason why I do the
Speaker:work that I do is because I see so many brilliant,
Speaker:ambitious, smart,
Speaker:like truly amazing women who are in their forties,
Speaker:fifties, sixties,
Speaker:and even older who are doubting themselves,
Speaker:right? Like in some aspects that are more confident than they've
Speaker:ever been.
Speaker:And then in other areas,
Speaker:they are completely doubting themselves.
Speaker:And part of the reason for that is that we live
Speaker:in a culture that idolizes youth,
Speaker:right? And this was like,
Speaker:one of my pet peeves is when I really started paying
Speaker:attention to this is like every time you see a woman
Speaker:who's in her forties or fifties in a television commercial or
Speaker:an ad it's for things like bladder leakage protection meal,
Speaker:replacement, shakes,
Speaker:vitamins to keep you energized.
Speaker:So you can play with your grandkids.
Speaker:And I was like,
Speaker:okay, that's nice.
Speaker:And that's good.
Speaker:And those are very necessary things for our part of the
Speaker:population. But it's also a tiny sliver of who we are
Speaker:as midlife women.
Speaker:So I was like,
Speaker:where's the representation of women starting over women,
Speaker:climbing mountains,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:women starting businesses and running charities,
Speaker:like where is that?
Speaker:And it was nowhere to be found.
Speaker:And so I read a stat one day that said that
Speaker:we are bombarded with something like 30,000
Speaker:images a day about what it means to be the perfect
Speaker:woman. And the definition of the perfect woman has served up
Speaker:to us by the media is between the ages of 25
Speaker:and 35 with a certain physique.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:that is,
Speaker:becomes what we measure ourselves up to,
Speaker:right? Like very subconsciously of course.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:we know that we're older and we know that things have
Speaker:changed. We've got more gray hair and wrinkles and you know,
Speaker:maybe our bodies have shifted,
Speaker:but subconsciously we are measuring ourselves up against what we think
Speaker:or what our culture has served up to us as being
Speaker:the definition of what a woman should look like.
Speaker:And that then causes us to focus on the things like
Speaker:are changing bodies.
Speaker:Our wrinkles are graying hair and we become,
Speaker:so hyper-focused on that as being our value in the world,
Speaker:as opposed to our true value,
Speaker:which is the knowledge and the wisdom and the life experience
Speaker:that we have,
Speaker:like all the skills and capabilities that we have collected along
Speaker:the way.
Speaker:Happy to see that a little bit of that seems to
Speaker:be changing.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:we're starting to see all different body sizes in some of
Speaker:the fashion,
Speaker:magazines and catalogs and all as well as all different ages.
Speaker:So I think there's been some progress made,
Speaker:but it's still out there for sure.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean,
Speaker:we still have a long way to go.
Speaker:And even now sometimes we'll see gray hair models and things
Speaker:like that,
Speaker:which I think is absolutely amazing.
Speaker:And I applaud it,
Speaker:but even some of those images are women who are genetically
Speaker:gifted, that their hair went is the exact right of shade
Speaker:of gray to compliment their faces,
Speaker:that they tend to be tolerant thinner.
Speaker:So we're making steps and definitely body size and body positivity
Speaker:and all of that.
Speaker:But I think there is still a,
Speaker:quite a ways to go,
Speaker:to be able to see midlife women for what they are.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:we've been taught as a culture that our value lies in
Speaker:our ability to have kids and to raise kids and what
Speaker:we look like.
Speaker:And so when we're no longer active momming,
Speaker:we're no longer able to have children and we don't look
Speaker:the same as we did.
Speaker:It can be easy.
Speaker:I can see exactly how we can fall into that trap
Speaker:of questioning.
Speaker:Our value in the world Is one of your goals for
Speaker:this year,
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Speaker:Are you finally admitting that you're spending far too much time
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Speaker:then you get intimidated and step back.
Speaker:Yeah, me too.
Speaker:We know at this point we should post consistently with quality
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Speaker:And now let's get back to the shell.
Speaker:So what is your advice for people who are feeling less
Speaker:than because of any number of the things that we talked
Speaker:about? I am a huge proponent of people doing whatever it
Speaker:is that they want to need to feel compelled to do,
Speaker:to feel good about themselves.
Speaker:But my advice is,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:okay, I still dye my hair because really I hate the
Speaker:shade of gray that my misses Coming in.
Speaker:I'm with you.
Speaker:I still go to the gym partly for health reasons,
Speaker:but I also want to fit into my jeans.
Speaker:Right. And I get eyelash extensions because I hate mascara.
Speaker:I have always hated mascara,
Speaker:but I know,
Speaker:and I will do those things because those things make me
Speaker:feel good.
Speaker:But I also know that that is not my value in
Speaker:the world.
Speaker:If I did none of those things,
Speaker:I am still a valuable contributor,
Speaker:regardless of my age.
Speaker:I have,
Speaker:again, like all of this knowledge and wisdom and life experience
Speaker:to share,
Speaker:like with my family,
Speaker:with the world,
Speaker:with my community,
Speaker:like whatever it is.
Speaker:So being able to see that part of yourself,
Speaker:as opposed to just looking at the physical aspects of who
Speaker:you are.
Speaker:I would agree with that because when you look in the
Speaker:mirror, if you are not happy with or accepting what you
Speaker:see that does something to you internally.
Speaker:So whether it's Botox or lash extensions,
Speaker:or the way you're wearing your hair or the color of
Speaker:your hair,
Speaker:I think that looking in the mirror,
Speaker:it should be a reinforcement of you and your values and
Speaker:make you feel good so that you can go out and
Speaker:do the other things that you talk about Jennifer,
Speaker:in terms of providing so much good and wisdom into the
Speaker:world. It's not for everybody else to say,
Speaker:oh, look at how good she looks or not know your
Speaker:age or something.
Speaker:It's for you.
Speaker:Exactly. Justine Bateman.
Speaker:Do you want me,
Speaker:if you remember her from what show was it?
Speaker:Yeah, she wrote that book called face 14 square inches of
Speaker:skin. And it basically is talking about how the world judges
Speaker:us based on our faces,
Speaker:which is 14 square inches of skin and the hyper obsession
Speaker:that we have with the wrinkles and why we spend as
Speaker:a collective upwards of $25 billion a year on anti-aging cream
Speaker:serums, this,
Speaker:that, and the other thing.
Speaker:And again,
Speaker:like I'm a hundred percent,
Speaker:like if you have something that works for you a hundred
Speaker:percent, you should do it.
Speaker:But again,
Speaker:let's not let that be the sole judgment of who we
Speaker:are as people and our value in our society.
Speaker:Right? Because we've all heard about or seen people who take
Speaker:it too far.
Speaker:And the question goes back to who are you doing it
Speaker:for? Exactly.
Speaker:And then I think is sad because for me,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:it's somebody who maybe doesn't see how valuable they are in
Speaker:the inside.
Speaker:Yeah. They're doing it for other's approval,
Speaker:not their own in some cases.
Speaker:So the first thing that you do,
Speaker:if you're feeling that you're getting reactions,
Speaker:whatever it is with regard to the stage you are in
Speaker:your life,
Speaker:the first thing to do is for yourself,
Speaker:do whatever it is that makes you your best self,
Speaker:that makes you feel good about yourself.
Speaker:And clearly that's the energy that you are going to exert
Speaker:out into the world is the energy that you already feel
Speaker:inside. Exactly.
Speaker:So what else then do you do?
Speaker:Okay. So we've got that done.
Speaker:We've been to the salon,
Speaker:we've done our nails.
Speaker:We are working out because you know,
Speaker:you also want to do things that make you the healthiest,
Speaker:you too,
Speaker:which inevitably comes back to your mental state too.
Speaker:If you can move without hurting and pain,
Speaker:you're just going to feel overall better also.
Speaker:So we're all put together in that way then what happens.
Speaker:So I think one of the very important things that I
Speaker:always encourage women to do is to carve time out for
Speaker:themselves. So whether that be,
Speaker:to spend time with a journal or meditation,
Speaker:or simply doing something that you love,
Speaker:like something that fills you up,
Speaker:because when you're in the plexus of joy or bliss,
Speaker:or just feeling like fulfilled into yourself,
Speaker:it's a whole lot easier to step away from the comparison
Speaker:game about,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:oh, I don't look like I used to,
Speaker:or, you know,
Speaker:this is the way that it used to be or whatever
Speaker:it is like when you're in that state of joy and
Speaker:bliss, you're filled up and you're less likely to see yourself
Speaker:as having lost anything.
Speaker:So again,
Speaker:whether it's you love reading and you spend 20 minutes a
Speaker:day reading a book,
Speaker:like whatever it is you do like carve time out for
Speaker:yourself to do that thing.
Speaker:And it doesn't need to be anything that anybody agrees with
Speaker:or allows you to do.
Speaker:This is like personal time for yourself to do what you
Speaker:want to do to do what makes you happy to bring
Speaker:you joy and to really connect in with yourself.
Speaker:Because when you get into that state of being in your
Speaker:joint and your bliss,
Speaker:it attracts more things to you.
Speaker:Well, in this,
Speaker:We're living the life for our own experience.
Speaker:So you want to not always be working or always pleasing
Speaker:others, which we spend so much time trying to do,
Speaker:but you want to feel good about the life that you're
Speaker:living for yourself.
Speaker:Exactly. This time of our lives is all about,
Speaker:like I said before,
Speaker:making ourselves happy,
Speaker:what feels authentic and joyful for me.
Speaker:And like one of the things I realized in my own
Speaker:journey, it wasn't,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:like I got a lot of great things out of my
Speaker:corporate career,
Speaker:but it wasn't a hundred percent aligned with who I am
Speaker:as a person,
Speaker:right? Like I had kind of squeezed,
Speaker:molded myself into fit into various different places of my career
Speaker:that just didn't align with who I am on the inside.
Speaker:Whereas what I do now is a hundred percent with aligned
Speaker:with who I am as a person.
Speaker:And sometimes we have to be able to carve out those
Speaker:spots, that time for ourselves to connect in or to do
Speaker:those things that we love in order to get on that
Speaker:path. Yes.
Speaker:And good point that you bring up too,
Speaker:is that sometimes within corporate also,
Speaker:you're kind of bracketed because depending on your business,
Speaker:there's a way you're doing things.
Speaker:There was a way you're presenting.
Speaker:If it's a product or how you're supposed to market to
Speaker:kind of take it back to you,
Speaker:there's direction,
Speaker:not just you.
Speaker:So when you started your own business,
Speaker:you then are running the ship.
Speaker:And we talked a little bit in the pre-chat about this,
Speaker:but there are a lot of people who are listening,
Speaker:who are considering starting their own business probably for the first
Speaker:time in their own life to get a little bit of
Speaker:traction going.
Speaker:So it can bridge the retirement.
Speaker:It can become a second career for example.
Speaker:And what you've been just talking about now is bringing you
Speaker:fulfillment and you joy is what you're able to accomplish in
Speaker:your own business.
Speaker:Exactly. I mean,
Speaker:there's so much talk about finding your purpose in midlife.
Speaker:And honestly,
Speaker:I believe that your purpose is what brings you joy.
Speaker:Your purpose is what makes you excited to get out of
Speaker:bed in the morning.
Speaker:So whether that is a business or whether it's just doing
Speaker:something as a hobby,
Speaker:because you love it,
Speaker:or maybe it's spending time with your kids,
Speaker:whatever that is,
Speaker:that is your purpose is to find your joy because that
Speaker:is the pathway to just about everything else.
Speaker:Yes. I agree with you.
Speaker:So I feel like to round out this conversation,
Speaker:it would be helpful also to talk about what you do
Speaker:when you encounter people who make snide remarks about your age
Speaker:on social or minimize you in a boardroom meeting,
Speaker:because you're either a woman or you're older.
Speaker:Do you have any suggestions or guidance when we're faced with
Speaker:those situations?
Speaker:Obviously we can't control the reactions or the comments of other
Speaker:people, but I think one of the most important things is
Speaker:to not take that on to not internalize that because it's
Speaker:so easy,
Speaker:especially waiting to be feeling a little bit uncomfortable with kind
Speaker:of what's happening to us mentally,
Speaker:physically, emotionally,
Speaker:we might be in that spot.
Speaker:And then somebody says something and it literally kind of drags
Speaker:us down.
Speaker:So I think the important thing is to just know that
Speaker:that person is reacting from like,
Speaker:whatever it is that they're reacting from,
Speaker:but it absolutely has nothing to do with you.
Speaker:So they're reacting to your age because they're afraid of getting
Speaker:old, that has nothing to do with you.
Speaker:And just being able to stand in the fact that you
Speaker:are a strong,
Speaker:vibrant Bard kick ass woman.
Speaker:Like that's where we kind of need to be,
Speaker:is to really ground ourselves in that as opposed to being
Speaker:taking on what's coming in from the outside world.
Speaker:Yeah. I agree and recognize that it's not just you personally,
Speaker:that people do this.
Speaker:What's the saying hurt people,
Speaker:hurt people,
Speaker:Both. Or what people think of me is actually none of
Speaker:my business.
Speaker:Yeah. Ah,
Speaker:there you go.
Speaker:Love that one too.
Speaker:And I think the another thing that I know is helpful
Speaker:is if you have a community of people who you've called
Speaker:on for support,
Speaker:I'm not talking about like a life coach or something,
Speaker:but even like a Facebook community who also makes candles are
Speaker:knitters or my community of makers anywhere where you have a
Speaker:group of people that you come together and inspire each other.
Speaker:This could be a place to go and just show your
Speaker:newest creations of what you're doing or something like that.
Speaker:To get affirmation about the value of the work that you
Speaker:do or to say,
Speaker:Hey, I'm really having a down day.
Speaker:Here's what happened and get everyone else to say their responses
Speaker:that are going to be uplifting and get you back to
Speaker:a good spot.
Speaker:Exactly. I am a such a huge believer in the power
Speaker:of community.
Speaker:I know that my own journey would not have been what
Speaker:it is without having the support of like-minded people.
Speaker:So whether that be like you said,
Speaker:a community related to what it is that you do or
Speaker:your age,
Speaker:or like whatever it is,
Speaker:but you need people,
Speaker:everybody, and we're human.
Speaker:We all need people who can see us for what we
Speaker:are, who can hold our beliefs when we're struggling,
Speaker:who can see our gifts when we're not seeing them.
Speaker:And to be able to reflect that back to us.
Speaker:And it's one of the reasons why I run the midlife
Speaker:Kickstarter mastermind,
Speaker:which is like an intimate group of women all coming together
Speaker:who are on a journey to create something for their next
Speaker:chapter. And like the support that I see from these women
Speaker:in that group,
Speaker:in that community,
Speaker:it brings me to tears half the time because it's just
Speaker:women supporting women.
Speaker:And I truly believe that we have the power to not
Speaker:only lift ourselves up,
Speaker:but to lift each other up.
Speaker:And when we do that as a collective,
Speaker:we're actually changing the paradigm of what it means to be
Speaker:a midlife women.
Speaker:So each of us stepping into our power and helping another
Speaker:woman step into her power,
Speaker:he's actually raising the tide for all of us and us
Speaker:stepping into our power and to show people what's possible in
Speaker:midlife is actually,
Speaker:what's going to change the paradigm about how we are seeing
Speaker:Absolutely. So who is the right fit for your masterminds?
Speaker:So Basically it's any midlife woman who is on a mission
Speaker:to create something new in her life,
Speaker:whether it's finding her purpose or starting a business training for
Speaker:a new career,
Speaker:whatever that looks like and wants the support and encouragement of
Speaker:like-minded women on the same journey.
Speaker:That is the community that I bring together.
Speaker:So I bring together eight women at a time and we
Speaker:spend four months together,
Speaker:basically helping support each other and raising each other up because
Speaker:the journey,
Speaker:especially if you're moving from corporate into self-employed or you might
Speaker:be leaving a relationship and relocating somewhere like that journey can
Speaker:be difficult,
Speaker:right? And it can feel very,
Speaker:very lonely.
Speaker:And having women who can help you in the two going
Speaker:gets tough.
Speaker:And when you're just not feeling it,
Speaker:when you just want to curl up in a ball and
Speaker:hide away from the world,
Speaker:like having that community who will hold you accountable,
Speaker:who will encourage and support you is gold,
Speaker:absolute gold.
Speaker:Like I belong to various different groups for probably more than
Speaker:five years and I will always do it because I see
Speaker:so much value in that.
Speaker:I, I love what you're doing with the masterminds.
Speaker:I love that it's a smaller group where women probably feel
Speaker:very safe in an environment of a fixed number of people.
Speaker:And I can only imagine the relationships that develop even after
Speaker:the masterminds are over just the solid connections that you're forming
Speaker:in that group.
Speaker:Like I said,
Speaker:it's the most beautiful thing to watch because I see women
Speaker:just giving their perspective on another woman and the way she
Speaker:sees that woman,
Speaker:that woman would never seen herself that way.
Speaker:And the more I hear that,
Speaker:and the more we see that,
Speaker:and the more we have that reflected back to us,
Speaker:it allows us to be able to believe it.
Speaker:Absolutely. And what about your podcast?
Speaker:Tell us about the content there.
Speaker:So the Ultrix podcast is all about sharing stories of real
Speaker:women who have reinvented their lives,
Speaker:who are tackling things.
Speaker:They never thought possible,
Speaker:whether they be physical,
Speaker:mental, or emotional challenges.
Speaker:And the whole reason I created this podcast is because when
Speaker:I was trying to figure out what was possible for my
Speaker:life, and I couldn't see it anywhere.
Speaker:And then I went searching for it and realized there are
Speaker:so many women who are doing so many amazing things in
Speaker:the world.
Speaker:And I wanted to make sure that I could share that
Speaker:with everybody so that other women could see themselves in those
Speaker:stories and feel empowered to be able to create the life
Speaker:that they wanted regardless of their age..
Speaker:Well, I know you're going to pick up some listeners from
Speaker:my community for sure.
Speaker:One final thing I want to ask about you brought it
Speaker:up real quickly and I made myself a note cause I
Speaker:wanted to come back to it.
Speaker:What's going on with the charity that you're creating.
Speaker:I haven't named this yet.
Speaker:It's very early in the stages.
Speaker:And honestly,
Speaker:I'm still figuring out how this whole thing works.
Speaker:But I read a research study that said that women are
Speaker:80% more likely to be impoverished in retirement than men.
Speaker:And when I started to dig into this study,
Speaker:it said,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:there's a number of reasons why that is,
Speaker:but some of the key reasons work,
Speaker:the fact that first of all,
Speaker:women earn less from the get-go and that on average women
Speaker:reached their peak earnings at age 44,
Speaker:and men reached their peak earnings at age 55.
Speaker:And their peak earnings are 40% higher than women's speaker innings
Speaker:the whole way Through the Whole way through.
Speaker:And so men having 10 more years to kind of get
Speaker:money under their belt,
Speaker:it leaves a lot of women kind of left behind.
Speaker:And then you consider illness,
Speaker:divorce, death,
Speaker:whatever that might be.
Speaker:So many women who are interested in creating this amazing next
Speaker:chapter might be struggling to put food on the table.
Speaker:So the charity is going to be all about scholarships to
Speaker:help women start businesses or to retrain for new careers on
Speaker:all kinds of different things like that,
Speaker:that will support the women.
Speaker:And I really want this to be a women supporting women
Speaker:charity so that the women who donate will be able to
Speaker:sit on a board,
Speaker:which will decide where the money goes and who the money
Speaker:goes to.
Speaker:So Dylan it's very,
Speaker:very early days,
Speaker:but when I realized,
Speaker:and the number of women over 50,
Speaker:who are living below the poverty line,
Speaker:another staggering number,
Speaker:I was like,
Speaker:wow, we again have to give back like all of us
Speaker:midlife women need to be like supporting each other to be
Speaker:able to do that because no woman should have to live
Speaker:below the poverty line over the age of 50.
Speaker:That just blows my mind.
Speaker:Absolutely. I agree.
Speaker:Well, two things here first off when the charity is established,
Speaker:I definitely want you to reconnect with me because I want
Speaker:to put the link in the show notes of this episode.
Speaker:And this may be an interesting topic for another podcast.
Speaker:You're actually establishing a charity,
Speaker:the steps that you went through,
Speaker:and then we can get eyes on the charity as well.
Speaker:So two things to think about in the future,
Speaker:Jennifer, For sure.
Speaker:This is definitely a passion project for me.
Speaker:And I'm still figuring it out one tiny step at a
Speaker:time. I mean,
Speaker:it might take awhile the tiny steps like you were just
Speaker:talking about before in the very beginning,
Speaker:that's how we get big things done is taking tiny steps
Speaker:forward. And it started with the research article you found that
Speaker:gave you the idea.
Speaker:So there you go.
Speaker:All right,
Speaker:where online could people go to find you?
Speaker:You can find me on Facebook on Instagram and my website,
Speaker:which are all of the same name,
Speaker:old chicks.
Speaker:No shit.
Speaker:And I also have a Facebook group as well,
Speaker:too. All of the same names.
Speaker:So you can find me there.
Speaker:Perfect. Well,
Speaker:Jennifer, this has been a really inspiring enlightening conversation.
Speaker:Thank you so much for coming on the show today.
Speaker:Thanks for having me.
Speaker:I really enjoyed our conversation.
Speaker:The more we do things that we love,
Speaker:the more we attract and discover similar activities that also fill
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Speaker:regardless of whether you've reached your Maven years yet or not.
Speaker:I think this is one of the most powerful episodes I've
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Speaker:It can empower you if you're at this point or prepare
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Speaker:Thank you,
Speaker:Jennifer, for focusing your work on this important topic,
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