As a busy entrepreneur or executive, the constant demands on your time can leave you feeling overwhelmed, burnt out, and disconnected from what truly matters. But what if there was a way to free up 10 extra hours per week - without sacrificing your health, relationships, or business growth? In this eye-opening episode, business coach and NeuroEncoding Specialist Constantin Morun joins Patty Farmer to reveal his game-changing Time Freedom Framework.

You'll learn how Constantin's unique CPR Success System integrates psychology, neuroscience, and high-performance coaching to help leaders reclaim their time. Know the common time traps and productivity killers that plague busy professionals - and discover practical strategies to enhance focus, reduce burnout, and make space for what truly matters. 

Constantin will also share his inspiring vision to empower 1 million "heart-led" leaders to shine their light and transform the business world. If you're ready to take back control of your schedule, boost your performance, and find more joy in both your work and personal life, don't miss this transformative discussion. Unlock your time freedom today!

Key Takeaways in this Episode:

• How the CPR Success System blends psychology, neuroscience, and high-performance coaching to help leaders reclaim control of their schedules
• Explore the powerful "Calm, Purpose, Rewire" methodology and learn to leverage neuroplasticity for creating new, empowering neural pathways
• Recognize the time-draining habits of people-pleasing and over-committing, then implement practical strategies to set boundaries and protect your time
• Conduct a personalized time audit to uncover where your hours are truly being spent, then establish a system to regularly evaluate priorities and make adjustments
• Leverage the power of accountability to stay on track with your time management goals
• Be inspired by Constantin's vision to empower 1 million "heart-led" leaders who lead with authenticity and create exponential positive impact
• Integrate more joy, fulfillment and meaning into both your professional and personal life by aligning your schedule with your deepest passions
• Overcome constant stress and burnout to make your unique mark without the weight of overwhelming demands

“We think we're in charge of our schedule, we think we're in charge of our time, but then we give what little that we have left for ourselves to everyone else first. So the moment we put ourselves first is the moment everything will shift.” - Constantin Morun

About our Guest: 

Constantin Morun is a seasoned business coach and Certified NeuroEncoding Specialist with over 20 years of experience in leadership and personal development. Specializing in helping busy 6-7 figure CEOs, founders, and executives to achieve Freedom of Time, Constantin developed the C.P.R. Success System (Calm. Purpose. Rewire.), a unique framework that integrates psychology, neuroscience, mindfulness, and high-performance coaching.

His mission is to inspire and empower changemakers to shine their light bright by reclaiming their time, enhancing productivity, and increasing sales—all while reducing stress and finding joy in their personal and professional lives.

His vision is to bring together 1,000,000 heart-led leaders that shine their light and make the world a better place.

Constantin's expertise spans a wide range of industries, including technology, finance, healthcare, and more. With a deep understanding of both corporate and entrepreneurial challenges, he provides tailored coaching that aligns clients' professional goals with their personal values and aspirations.

A dynamic speaker and the host of the ""Unleash Thyself"" podcast, Constantin shares his insights and methodologies with a global audience. His transformative event series, including the Freedom of Time masterclasses, guides high achievers toward holistic success on their own terms. Through these events, participants learn practical strategies to create time, boost productivity, and achieve a balanced, fulfilling life.

Constantin's approach is characterized by a blend of analytical rigor and empathetic support, ensuring clients not only reach their goals but also enjoy the journey. Whether through one-on-one coaching, group workshops or retreats, Constantin is dedicated to helping leaders discover and harness their full potential.

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Hello everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of The Marketing, Media, & Money Podcast. I'm so excited today because we're going to be talking about time, Freedom framework, all those really great words that I think really lead us to a little bit more of a successful business. So I want to tell you, but could you imagine freeing up 10 extra hours every week, like 10 extra hours every week, without sacrificing your time, your health or your relationships, and if that's not enough, scaling your business without the burnout, while staying aligned with your purpose and enjoying the journey. Well, that's what we're going to be talking about today, and I am really excited to have a very good friend of mine. I've known him for several years now, and I have to tell you, we're always showing up in the same conferences, and our conversations have always been deep and delightful, and I'm excited to share him with you today. So let me tell you a little bit about him. So Constantine maroon is a seasoned business coach and a certified neuro encoding specialist with over 20 years of experience in leadership and personal development, specializing in helping busy six and seven figure CEOs, founders and executives to achieve freedom of time. Constantine developed the CPR Success System, a unique framework that integrates psychology, neuroscience, mindfulness and high performance coaching. And his mission is to inspire and empower change makers to reclaim their time, enhance productivity and increase sales, all while reducing stress and finding joy in their personal and professional lives. His mission is to bring together a million heart led leaders that shine their light and make the world a better place. And I just love that so much. What a great mission. Thank you so much for being here with me today. Constantine,

Adi, thank you so much. Always a pleasure to chat with you, and I'm, I'm so happy to be recording something that we get to share with so many beautiful souls.

I love that too. I have to tell you, I love that you had the word joy in there. You know, my mission really is to help everyone, to only do the things that bring them joy and feed their soul, right? You know? So that totally aligns with my mission. But I want to just go ahead and jump right in. And for those who really heard me, we talked in your bio, and what we were going to be talking about today is really about freedom of time. And I have to tell you, I think time, freedom and money freedom are probably the top two things that people are looking for, specifically small business owners and entrepreneurs. And I think that if you can have freedom of time, is probably the easiest way to get you to money freedom as well. So you have created this concept of freedom of time. How does it differ from traditional time management approaches.

I love the question so much. Pat and before I even answer that, I want to give the bigger, a bit of a bigger picture of how I'm seeing this, which will provide context for those listening as to why I feel like you the freedom of time is so crucial in anything that we do in life. So you read about my I mean, you read the mission that I have, and people have heard that, which is to inspire and empower others to shine their light bright. Now what does that mean to me? Shining your light bright means standing in your truth, knowing who you are, and being able to show up authentically and unapologetically every day of your life, in business, in in your regular life, wherever you find yourself. Now, here's the trick that I found in my life, if you want to shine your library truly, stand in your truth, then you need to dedicate some time to knowing thyself. You know that's the famous phrase, not thyself. But most of us don't have the physical time and energy to be doing that, because we're usually overwhelmed, busy progress and, you know, filled with anxiety and other things that come up with running a business, right? If you're a small business owner, Medium Business, Small executive, you always have so many things on the go and throw on top of it, the family, and all of a sudden there is no time for you. And to me, freedom of time is at the base of this. If you don't have freedom of time, you cannot really get to know thyself, and you cannot truly shine your light bright. So when I looked at my mission, I said, Okay, well, what's the number one thing that we need to establish before we can go deeper into the idea of getting you to a place where you find the joy, like you mentioned earlier, right? You find that fulfillment, and you find it in everything that you do. Because it is possible. Society may tell you otherwise, but it is possible because you have many examples of it in your life. So now coming back with the freedom of time, how does it differ? To me, freedom of time is not about time management techniques. I mean, that helps Absolutely. To me, those are more like a band aid solution, meaning that, how do you stop the bleeding? You apply some of these time management skills. But what is time lost? If you look at your life and. Right now, ask yourself, what is my time going and why is it going in a direction? And to me, what I realize is that this I'm pointing to my head here, for those that can't watch us, is what's the root of all time loss, meaning that your thoughts and your beliefs, we know from science, they create your reality. If you're a spiritual person, you know that you co create or manifest your reality as well, which means that what goes on up here, the belief in yourself, or the no belief in yourself, will dictate where your time goes. So simple example I can give you, Paddy here, we all write emails. We all write messages. Ask yourself this, if you're listening right now, how often do you check and double check and triple check the emails and the messages you send, and then ask yourself the question, why do you do that? Or what causes you to to not trust yourself to send the message the first time you wrote it? Everyone I talked to doesn't matter if it's a seven figure CEO, six figure CEOs an expiring executive. We all have a bit of that imposter syndrome in us that holds us back and says, You know what? It needs to be better. You know what? I don't think this sounds correct. You know what? What if I send this and this client is not going to continue with me, and that's how time begins to get lost without even realizing, because an email that should take you 30 seconds to write and send will take, you know, 510, 15 minutes, and then you send that as you're going to ruminate on it, sometimes say, oh my god, did I said? Did I say the right thing? And imagine the people effect. So that's how I see time, it's being lost because of what we allow or don't allow in our conscious mind.

That makes a lot of sense. So now you've developed this CPR Success System. Can you walk us a little bit through the framework, and how does it integrate psychology, neuroscience and high performance coaching to help leaders reclaim their time? Absolutely,

I love the question. So like so CPR, of course, it's an acronym. Stands for calm. The C stands for calm, P for purpose, the R for rewire, and at the end of the end of the end, success, of course, for whatever you define success, to be in your life. And like any type of CPR being performed out there in the world, it's about bringing back to life something. And the way I see it is this system, the way I designed it, and when I work with people, it's a framework meaning that you make it to be your own. It's a framework that's bringing you back to life, meaning, to your truth, to that place of shining your light bright. It says, how do we bring more calm into your life? Allow you to understand and align more with your own values and passions, which leads to your purpose? And it's about rewiring those programs in our head, rewiring the brain to allow you to execute on the newfound actions and purpose and whatever direction of life it is, because we know from neuroscience. And you asked me, How does it combine in neuroscience, through neuroplasticity, they have shown now that we can rewire our brain pathways. In the past, they thought that once you reach a certain age, like 18 years old, your beliefs, the way you saw the world, your thought patterns were locked in while that's, of course, been disproven now, and we know that you can create new neural pathways in your brain, which means that if you have a disempowering story in your background from let's say, maybe when you're four years old, someone put you down, and then you Build a story up of not being good enough or not being able to do something, that story now can be changed to an empowering story. The question is, are you looking at how the story shows up in your life and how you can change it or not? Most of us are not, because these they don't teach you in school, right? You go to school, you go get an MBA, they don't talk about this. They don't talk about how you can actually take control back and you can be in charge of your own rewiring of the brain, so then you can bring in more empowering thoughts and beliefs.

That makes a lot of sense, too. I had one of my twins came home from school one day, and she was a really good student, and she tried to tell me that the reason why she was getting a B was because her teacher told her that she was a terrible test taker. Wow. Okay, and so she said, But mom, like, I just can't do any better than that. It doesn't matter that I get A's on on my work, and I find it relatively easy. I'm just a terrible taste taker. And I said, Well, don't let somebody put that label on you and decide for you that you're a terrible test taker. That's crazy. You don't get you get to decide whether you're a good test taker, not your teacher, and I really had to help her to not accept that, because it's so easy when somebody just wants to label you with something. And I think we can use it as a crush or an excuse. So I think it is really important to change that story. And I know that in my lifetime, I've had to, you know, kind of shift a story, you know that I have been taught from the time I was young. I think most of us that are at our age have had something and literally, to be able to re. And say, No, that's your story. That is not my story, yes, right? Which I think is so important. And I think that the more you use that muscle, is like a muscle, right? I think the more you use it, the more aware you become, and the easier it is to recognize so that you're willing to make that change, because sometimes you don't even realize that you're doing it. So I think that is really important, and I love that you're doing this work, because I really think it has the ability to really change lives. So I think that is really important. So I have to tell you, Constantine, you said that it's possible to create 10 extra hours each week by optimizing our routines, right? Yeah. So before we go there, what would you say are some of the most common time wasters that leader space, right? You know, we all have the things not to do. We don't even realize sometimes that we are doing them. But what are some of the most common ones, and how can they eliminate them? Yes.

Now here's the number one by far, and I've worked with quite a few leaders across many industries, in corporate America and entrepreneurial world. And is this idea ties to people pleasing, meaning that, you know, you can help a lot of people, you know you can do a lot of things. So then you overextend and you say yes to other things without even realizing, because that's what you've been doing all your life. You've been helping people. You've been solving problems. So then if someone comes to the problem, you're like, Yes, I can help you. Even though your plate is not just full, it's beyond full. You're like, Ah, what's another extra hour a week? And then what happened?

A fixer? A fixer, right?

Because as an entrepreneur you have to be you're the person with ideas, right? You're the person that you wouldn't be an entrepreneur if you didn't want to make the world a better place. And when I say the world, it doesn't even have to be the large world. It's your world first, which means that when we don't set boundaries, and that's that's a tough one for most people, right? So, like I would say, the people pleasing is first, and that can show up in many ways, the boundaries will be next, because those are very tight together in terms of we think we're in charge of our schedule, we think we're in charge of our time, but then we give that little that we have left for ourselves to everyone else first. So the moment we put ourselves first is the moment everything was shift. Putting yourself first doesn't mean you're now gonna ignore your duties, whatever those duties are, you're gonna ignore your loved ones. You're gonna just be selfish and just go 100% inwards. Absolutely not.

No. I think that really does make a lot of sense, but it is easy too, I have to say, this past year and it changes too, right? And I think a lot of it is society loves to talk about this work life balance, I don't really think we ever get work life balance. It's really like work life flow, you know, because sometimes you have to spend, you know, like, if you're going to have a baby, or your kids going off to college or whatever, like, you need to spend a little bit more time there. I always like to say that every month, I like to look and say, Where do I need to pour into this month? Maybe it's pour more time. If I'm doing a lot of traveling with my spouse, right? Maybe it's pouring more time into my children. Maybe it's pouring more time into my business. And so really it's trying to get into the right flow of the balance. It's never really 5050, or 100 100. We all like to think that's possible, but I don't really think it's realistic. But I will tell you that I love that we're talking about this, because something that I have to be aware of is I have the ability and the tendency to over commit, like, you know, in and in a specific way. And basically, for me, when I said yes, I could do it. I am very clear with my boundaries. I am very clear about what's the criteria for me to say yes, no or no, not. Now, I'm clear. But what I'm not so good at right? So what I'm not so good at Yep, is that yes, right? But, oh, I'm totally working on it, right? What I'm not so clear about all the time, but I this past year, really became aware, because I'm working on it right, because we're always working on things, is that when I say yes, I have already checked it out. I have the time. The thing is, I don't say I don't stop saying yes, meaning that I may have said yes three years ago and three years ago, it did align with everything I was doing. But I don't go back and say, Oh yeah, that was great for me in that season, but I'm in a different season now, and it's not still okay for me, right? So I'm an over committer in that aspect. This year, I actually spent some time, and I literally resigned from seven things that I have been a part of for years, okay, just didn't align anymore. And not only that, but I came to the conclusion that when you keep on staying. In something that no longer aligns brings you joy or feeds your soul, then it stops you from being able to say yes to new things that you can do to serve and so that was really important for me to get and also to create a criteria for me, to make it very easy for me to be decisive and be able to say, Does it meet my criteria? And if it did great, and if it didn't, sometimes the answer isn't always no, but it's no, not now, right? You know, I really needed to really pay attention to that, so I think that was really important, and it is very, very easy to do it. Now, as far as boundaries is concerned, I love that, because I feel like we're probably the worst is entrepreneurs as of having boundaries for ourselves, right? You know, sometimes we're much better at it with other people than we are for ourselves, you know. And a clear boundary for me is that I don't take calls or work on Fridays, right? You know, Friday I have a very specific thing that I do on Friday, it's girlfriend time, it's, you know, manicure, pedicure, get my hair done, or just spend some time. However, as I'm saying that the people that are listening or watching don't know this, but today is Friday, and here we are recording this podcast, right? So there's exceptions to every rule that we may say, and there's a reason why. And there's reason why we are here today, too, though. So I do feel like it is something that it is easy, and it's not like you get there and then when you get there, like, Okay, it's good. I got it, yeah, something we have to continually work on. And so I think it is really important. So with that said, what are one or two techniques, per se that you could recommend that would enhance that productivity and performance without falling into the trap of burnout, especially when you're a high performing leader, absolutely.

And before I even answer that, that's a beautiful question, but I want to, I mean, acknowledge everything you just said as well. That was so beautiful, the example of what you're seeing in your life. And that's that part where you give yourself more time to truly know yourself, to go deeper and understand what your priorities are in this season of life. It makes it much easier to then look at your schedule and your commitments and say, You know what? This doesn't align with me anymore. And the example you gave is so prevalent as well within all of the entrepreneurs that I've had a chance to work with, because, like you said, it's like, you don't second guess yourself. It's like, it's been a year. It's like, oh, wait, this is still, am I, first of all, am I still adding value? And second of all, it's like, is it adding value to my life? Because it could be in one directional and then it's fine for a while. But what I found is that what I'm always striving for is harmony, not balance. And I love that you said that you might know what balance either, because harmony means that it's going to be a yin and yang, right? It's going to flow sometimes, like you said, I'm going to have more commitments in my family. So you know that dial is going to move up to 70% family, 30% business, some other seasons is going to be the other way around. And it's always about finding this harmony where I stay within my truth and my joy, my fulfillment area, not forcing it to be 5050, because you have so many examples in nature. Not a, nothing is perfect and B, nothing is balanced, absolutely nothing like truly balanced, right? It's always a fight of like trying to get to balance, but it's never getting better, and that's the same with our life, right? So then, anyway, that's how I shifted. So now coming back to like, what one can do, right? One of my one of the things I used to do a lot in corporate America was I was a project manager and an organization a change manager, meaning that I would work with large organizations in implementing massive changes within their the way they did their own business, maybe introducing a new technology, or the way that I'm business in a certain way. And we know that whenever a change is introduced, it's always about the people. Now the people in this case is you, because you only have control over yourself. So if you look at that and say, Okay, well, what's the first step in executing any change? The first step is always becoming aware of the problem to begin with, and how the problem manifests, the data behind it, all of that. So the first thing I do with clients has has down. It's like, it has on. If they don't have this yet, we jump into it. It's like, let's do an inventory of where your time is being spent. You can do it looking backwards at the last two to four weeks. Or you can look at, look at it moving forward. So from today, let's track your time over you know, business, family, life, your self time, your sleep. There's a, there's like, several or eight things that I usually help track with but again, you make it your own. Because the idea is, once you know where your time is being spent, I'll ask you the next question, which categories do you think you can free up time in or create time in those 10 hours that we talked about? And most people may not even have an answer, but it's going to be very obvious, oh, I spent 75 hours in my business bucket that may include commuting, they may include meetings outside of regular hours. They may include emailing or. Being on social media outside of ours, right? It will give you a clear picture. And once you get that, then it's easier to start implementing some time hacks. And I call these Band Aid solutions, because, truly they are, because if you create more time and you don't address the root cause, then you're just gonna spend the time on something else that's not going to help you in the long run, right? How many times I ask you this, and then you end the audience? How many times have you had a meeting get canceled? Then you're like, Oh, now I have more time to complete a, b and c, and then maybe you end up getting stuck in emails, or if you end up getting stuck browsing social media or anything else, right? So then all of a sudden, at that time he just created disappeared just as easily.

Now I think that does happen, and I will admit that sometimes when somebody does cancel a meeting, you're like, like, you know, you get that hour back usually, though, for me, I have to say that when that does happen, I always like to think that that is a gift, like when it happens, and so I usually take that hour, and for me, that means doing something that is on my bucket of either personal or business development. And it usually means sitting on the couch with my puppies in my lap and reading beautiful, yes, when I actually get to love them. And that actually feeds my soul. And also I get to do that, I usually do not get like I have seen people do get on social media and say, Oh, I just had a mean Piazza who wants to jump on a call. No, I never do that. So I do get what you're saying, though, I think that's what's really important though, is when you make the changes, like when I decided to this year when I decided, as I said earlier, to resign from seven things. When I came to that conclusion of those seven things, the biggest question for me was again, does this still bring me value to my life? Am I still able to contribute at the level that I like to contribute? But it really came down to, does it still bring me joy and feed my soul? So literally, I went down. Now I have to tell you, I got 35 hours of my life back, getting rid of those seven things, 35 not 1035, hours. But you know what? That was only step one, step two for me in that was, what was I going to do so I don't just fill up those 35 hours again, and then this next thing was, what criteria am I going to put into place? So I don't now, I have to tell you, I stepped out of seven and I stepped into one. So I replaced seven with only one, and that one had been sitting in my parking lot waiting for me to free up time for something I wanted to do. So I'm super excited about that thing, right? You know. So I have to tell you, saying no and stepping away from things is joy almost in itself, right? You know, it can bring you joy just being able to do that. So I think that's important now, before we move on, I just have to share, because I want to hear what you have to say about it. So I have there's one particular time of year that I do something that really, really works for me, and it's called November. And happens every November. November, for me, is November. And I do an audit every single year of everything I do, not just my time, things, every single thing I do. And for me, when I'm looking at that, I ask myself, does this still bring me joy? Does this feed my soul? It could be a program I'm having. Maybe I need to tweak, you know, one of my offers, you know, where I'm spending my time, where I'm traveling, whatever the case may be, sometimes it's that I need to step out. Sometimes it's that I want to step up. And it's not that I want to say no and get out. Maybe it's that I want to be more involved, right? I want to be more involved. Oh, maybe I want to step up and stuff. So it's either step out or step up. And so I have a criteria for that. And so what he's always amazed me, and this is why I love that you're on the show, is that I do that every single year. But guess what? Every year, when I get to November, I always have things on that list that I have to audit, right? You know? And there's always ones that I step out of, and some that I step up. So it's always funny to me that you recognize it, you do something, and then it kind of creeps up on you a little bit at a time, and then all of a sudden, you're like, Oh my gosh. How'd I get here again, right? You know? And so I love that. So I really like hearing about what are some techniques that are stop us from doing that? Because I think it's really easy to just do it again, which I think is because you did the band aid and not the root right, you know? So

That's part of it, actually. Let's, let's start there, because it's such a beautiful example of what you gave. And we'll talk about the the November thing and how I. Do it myself and what I do with my clients. But let's go back for a second to our brain. Using a bit of neuroscience. Here, there are pathways between our neurons that far. So essentially, let's say in the example you gave with your daughter, the story was that she was not a good test taker. So they created a pathway in in her brain that whenever something a test came up, you would go to the story that she's not a good test taker, right? And then all the connections around that. Now you came in and you said, You know what? Hey, hey, you know, let's put a brace on. What if you are a good test taker? And is this just a story that someone else gave you? Now you're creating a new neural pathway, but the one you're just creating is not as strong as the old one. And we know what what happens in nature, when a river or water needs to go down from the top of a mountain to the ocean, it's going to take the path of least resistance. And that's what happens in our brains as well. That's why. How many times do you remember wanting to make a change, you start making the change you're happy with what's happening, and all of a sudden something else comes in your life that maybe it's a storm, maybe something else that you focus on, and all of a sudden, all the progress you made is now undone. Because what's happening is you're creating a new pathway. You are keeping your focus on it, but something else distracted you. So now that focus is gone, which means it's done unconsciously, not consciously, and now the path of least resistance is taken. Another way you can look at this is if in the old days, they used to have the horses pulling the carts, and they had dirt roads, so what will happen is the first person that will go in the grooves will be set in the ground right? It may not follow the proper path, but any other cart coming through would have a hard time not following the same pathway, because the grooves are so deep. Same thing happens in our brain. So two things here, right? That means that, okay, so if you take your focus off of it, you have a chance of going back to the previous especially if you was a strong one. And for most of us, we have lots of those that are not empowering the disempowering pathways. And then, or you can train yourself in such a way where you can create this new pathway, and then as soon as you notice that you're deviating, you bring yourself back. And I have some techniques that we can talk about, if you'd like, on how we can do that, because it's unrealistic, in my opinion, to say I'm gonna go through life, and my focus is not going to be pulled away from this new thing or this 10 things I'm doing new so then if that's unrealistic, in my opinion, if you notice things are going to happen because you can control your environment exactly, then how can we equip ourselves? So then we can notice when we're deviating or going back to an old way, interrupt that and move back into into alignment with the new US, right? So that's very, very important, and we can talk about that now. Back to if you want to jump in, please let me know. But if you coming back to the November piece, I'll ask you this, what if you didn't have to wait a full year to reevaluate? What if this could be organic, meaning, depending on the people? I have some clients that do it every month, some that do it every week, meaning that you start your week with setting up intentions. This is, this is my focus in my life right now. It might be on family, it might be on business, it might be both. And then I personally want to do every Monday morning or Sunday night. I have a list of five things, three to five things, but let's say five things that I said. These are, this is my focus for this week, this past week, for example, one of my focus was I created my first paid course. I have a couple of free courses. So my focus was to finalize that. Then it was to finalize another program. Then it was to focus on finalizing my first retreat that I'm hosting in November. So those are my first three things. The fourth one, which is always there, the order doesn't matter, was to ensure that I have at least two hours a day to myself. That could mean walking my dogs in nature, meditation, reflection, shamanic journeying, whatever that is for you, that's what you put in that. And then the fifth one is something to do with my personal life. Ensure I have enough time with my partner, enough time to with my friends if I want to. And then I look at my schedule and say, I have these five priorities, how many of the meetings I have and blocks I have support my five priorities, and how much is outside of it. And for me, if I have 80% or sorry, less than 80% for those five things, that means I'm not aligned fully with what I am right now in this season of life. So then I cancel meetings, I move them, I reach out to people and say, Hey, I know I committed to this, like recording a podcast episode, because I committed to this a few months ago when I thought my schedule would be different. We need to adjust this. And I tell you what, Patty, when you stand in your truth and you you don't even have to explain too much to say, Hey, this is what's happening. Nobody is arguing with me. Nobody is creating any drama because they're like, oh, okay, thank you for letting me know. Sure we'll do a next week or next month, whatever it is,

Where I could see where that would really work. Now, some of those things seem a little bit easier than others, and I totally understand what you're saying, because I so my schedule is very clear. Now I have. Have a created a schedule that has worked for me for a long time. You know, Mondays, it's no zoom calls, no calls like that said, no makeup, right? No zoom calls, whatever. Because I work on my own business, and I start every Monday morning looking at those things just like you did. I have a very clear thing. What I also do, though, is, since I also don't do it on Fridays. On Fridays, I end every single Friday looking at what my schedule is going to be like the next week, and how did it work this week, and what changes do I need to make now, I have to say, I don't say I would go back and cancel anything I already committed to for somebody, I kind of feel like that's sort of my problem, not theirs, but it would make me make changes in my schedule, like I know for me, one of the biggest changes that I made many years ago, but has really worked for me. So I only do clients on Tuesday, Wednesdays and Thursdays. So super clear. But one of the things that has really worked for me is also in when are the best times for me to be doing certain things. Now, I'm a morning person. Not everybody is, but I am a morning person, and I get up at five o'clock every day. I love the morning, and I have things that I do, but I'm at my desk at 6am you know, after I have done my workout and I've meditated and I've done some reading, I'm at my desk at 6am now I have to say that isn't for everybody. Whether you're 6am is 8am or whatever it is, for me, it is but what I know to be true for me is that those first four hours I am the most alert, the most creative I am on it. And because of that, those four hours, I only work on revenue generating activities. That's it. In the afternoon, when, you know, two or three o'clock comes and you've been, you know, you've been working since 6am you're a little bit not quite, as you know, that's not when I want to be helping you to make a million dollars, right, you know. So that's when I do relationship building activities, because that energizes me, right? It doesn't take as much of my brain trying to figure out how I make somebody money and those type of things, but it brings me joy. And I can do those either on Zoom or again, on the phone sitting on my couch with my puppies in my lap. But I love doing relationship things, and so I have to tell you, there was a time when I did it the other way. I loved starving my day, doing relationship building. It was just such a high. But then I was trying to do admin things and doing revenue generating things at two or three o'clock in the afternoon, which was not my best time, yeah, and when I compared, I realized that wasn't so good for me and for my business. So I am really, really clear that I block out. It's not always the same on the day, depending upon what the day is, but I block out time, and when that is a revenue generating time block, I only do things, and then you have to reflect it in your calendar. Like most of us, have a calendar that we let people have a late that they can go and book time with us. I have all those times separate on my calendar so that when you know like, for example, one of the changes that I've made is, if I know someone like you know you and I have gotten to know each other after we've gotten on a call a few times, and we're getting to know each other. We're building our relationship. Do we need to be on Zoom? Every one of those signs, right? You know, to me, once we've been on Zoom two or three times, if we're continuing the conversation, we can move to the phone so that we could be more comfortable, right? You know, all of my my accountability partners. I have three women who are my accountability partners. And this may sound funny to some, but our time that we are accountable to each other is while we're doing hair and makeup. Literally, we have a time set that we're out of the shower and now we're in there. We put the phone on, you know, speaker, and while we're doing our hair and our makeup, we do accountability each other. I don't need to be taking notes. I don't need to be doing these things. Now, I do record those things for me, so that I know, but I have just found that that works for me. So I feel like part of that is really finding out, when is your time? When are you the most creative, right? You know, and blocking your time accordingly. So since you're an expert on this, what do you? What do you think about that? Because I feel like it has really worked for me. It kind of works for my clients, too, but I am not a neuroscience expertise, right? You know, that is not my area of expertise. It just makes sense from a marketing, a media and a money, which, of course, this is what the podcast is called, what I did, marketing money, those three points, it makes sense to me to do it that way. But now you can either tell me, like, how brilliant I am, or you can suggest a change.

You are brilliant. I. Mean, that's, I love that, and that's something that, of course, many people are hearing about it right now and then, it's something they can implement in their life. And from a neuroscience point of view, right? There's a lot of research going into how when people work best, and what they have found is that pretty much the it's all over the map, meaning that you are a unique person. What works for you is not necessarily going to work for me and vice versa. And here's the beauty of what you said as well, is that regardless of what path you take in life, it's about finding your own answers, regardless of who you hire like if you hire someone like me for a different coach, if they don't empower you to find your own answers, and they force their answers upon you, then you know it's not the right partnership, because nobody knows you the way you do, and I can help you find your answers party. You can help them find their answers around their marketing and everything else. And what you have discovered, like you mentioned this a few times, in different ways, it's all about becoming aware about who you are. That's a no thy self market, right? So once you freed up a bunch of time in your life, you've gone through the process of knowing yourself so well, then now you can come back and say, Well, I'm gonna free up more time because I know how to do it, and you cannot address both the band aid solution really quick and the root causes, right? And it's a journey, meaning that there's always more to it, right? The more you are, it's kind of like an onion, right? The more you take a layer off, the more layers are below it. And that's the beauty in this, because we start with those 10 hours, and coming back to that for a second, it's like what you did is you freed up some time, and then you use some of the time to put back in yourself, which allowed them to find more root causes and deal with them, which freed up even more time. So all of a sudden, you gather the 35 hours, plus that standard what I'm seeing with people that come into my world. I mean, I, when I uncovered this path for myself. I went from working 70 hours a week to working 20 hours. That was like, you know, a couple of years ago. And I was like, Huh, that's interesting, but I never thought it would be something I can share with others. It's like that worked for me. And he's like, how can you go? And I have a client I was working with, uh, last week on on a on a specific thing. We did an inventory again, after two and a half months together, and he went from on average, 75 hours a week to now about 57 so okay, that's in two months. What can you do in two months? What if you could get 15 hours back or 20 hours back in your schedule now he freed up all the time. Guess what? The time is going 80% of it is going back into himself. Yay. That's good, right? Meaning meditation, meaning journaling, meaning reading, spending quality time with people that he he loves, and investing it back in knowing who he is. Because the more clear you get on who you are, the more clear it becomes if a meeting should be a meeting, or if it can be an email, or if it should be anything in the first place, because you can say, yeah, that's from my project.

Well, that's why there's so many memes made about that, right? How many times have you seen a meme on social that said, Well, there's another meeting that could have been an email, right? You know. And we all laugh, you know? Why we laugh? Because we resonate with it, because we know that it is so true, right, you know. And I think, why

Do you think it's true? Like, what's making us jump on a meeting that we know should be an email or even, like, just a quick text message? What do you think causes us to do that?

Well, I have to tell you, I really have cut down, and my team too, we really have cut down. Now, I know people do a lot of different things, and there's a lot of tools out there. I personally love boxer. I use it. I actually use it in my coaching as well, right? You know I love boxer because if you have Voxer Pro, you can do it two ways, right? It can broadcast out and allow responses. Great way to get information that you want to send out very, very quickly. It's also a good way to get responses that you don't have to answer right now, right? You know, I think that's kind of the biggest thing. I always like to I tell it to my kids too, and my family and my friends and my clients decide just because somebody sends you a text does not mean that you have to answer it right now. It doesn't mean you have to stop everything you're doing to answer those texts. When I am focusing on things, I remove my phone completely because those notification I turn all my notifications off, right? You know, I take my phone out of the room, you know, I do all of those things. You know, I think it is really important if you're one of those people that's distracted my husband, who is corporate, he's an engineer, and he says he cannot believe that I can work without listening to music when there's nobody else in the house but me. He's like, why aren't you listening to music all the time? I said, because I love music, and it would distract me, and I'd be stinking, getting up and dancing around a little bit, was probably good too. But I mean, like, I want to focus, and I feel like, remember when everything was about multitasking? That was like, the gut thing, you know, on the resume, oh, I can multitask. I don't think people want you to multitask, that we want you to focus. So I listen to music when I'm having lunch. I don't have lunch at my desk, right? You know, I go have lunch, doing what I'm doing, taking a walk, taking my dog for a walk, whatever. But I think that this is really about knowing myself. I never really put those words to it, but I love that you're doing it, because I think it is really so true. It's knowing yourself. I know what works for me. And you know what's really funny, if anybody has children or animals, right? You know if we have animals, and I don't know about you, but my dogs are really, really good about letting me know that in the morning they're sleeping, and that's a great time for me to do podcasts. In the afternoon, they are and if I tried to to record a podcast at noon, they'd be like, uh, Mom, no, that's when you're supposed to be. Playing with me like they're very clear. And we just accept that. Why do we not that? Accept that in ourselves and realize that we also have times that we need to do certain things and when it's our time, you know. So I think it is all about knowing thyself and accepting it too, not just knowing But accepting that. So I really feel like this is a really a great talk. I mean, I have to tell you, I knew our conversation be great, but it's even better than I thought it would be constant, you know, like, so loving that. But here's the thing, I think a lot of CEOs and founders, they actually struggle with really being overwhelmed, right? And so, how can they shift? Because always about a shift, right? I always like to say one of the things that I work with my clients on is to stop being a firefighter and go back to being a CEO, which is, you know, what you did in the beginning, right? You know, and then you ended up just putting out fires all day. But really honestly, how can they shift their mindset and use these strategies that you're talking about to find joy in both their professional and their personal life, but still maintain high levels of performance?

I love the question Patty, and I have to agree, I'm loving the conversation. We're showing so much, so much wisdom here. And I would say the biggest message so far is that everyone is unique, and it's about finding your own answers. But if you don't give yourself time to do so, you're not going to find them. You may know some, you may stumble upon some, but truly find them. You need a bit of time for that. And before you answer, though,

I want to say one more thing, because I think it's going to lead into that we talked earlier about awareness, yes, and awareness is really beautiful. But here's the thing, I think, once we become aware that we want to make changes, one of the things about knowing thyself is knowing, can you fix it yourself, or do you need help? Like, you know what I mean? I think that's really, really important. It's like, you know when I decided that I was going to start exercising, but I actually knew that I wouldn't get to the gym. I know myself right. Know thyself. I knew I wouldn't go. I might start going, but I wouldn't continue. And I knew it, so I had to ask myself, well, what should I do? And so I hired a mobile trainer to come to my house, because I knew I wasn't going to hide behind the chair and not answer the door, right? You know what I mean. So it was like, What could I do? So I really feel like when you become aware, sometimes it is something that being aware, you can do it, but sometimes this is when you need to hire somebody and let somebody else help you, because it's so easy to get attached to our own stuff. So know yourself is good, and know yourself well enough when you can't do it by yourself and ask for help, because I think that's important.

You know what? I love that you went there because I would like to provide a different perspective. Perhaps it's not even for me. It's not even if you need to know, oh, can I do it or do any help? To me, it's multiple layers, meaning the first layer is realizing that you actually can do anything you want in life. You're a creator of your own life. And if you're listening to this, you're a successful person in any areas of your life. The question is, then, okay, if I want to create this, like in your case, you want to create a better physical body, work out, do more of those things, then the question comes, okay, if I use what I've always done, I know it's not going to work out. Meaning, I need to get myself to the gym, do all these things. So you're making an active choice. And say, You know what? I'm choosing differently this time. And now you can see universe, God, whatever you believe in, is going to give you the spark of inspiration. It's like, Oh, what if I delegate this? What if I now hire someone that comes to me? And all of a sudden you went from the idea that, yes, I can create this reality. I'm giving myself permission to do it. I'm choosing differently. And now the opportunities on how I get get to do this show up. For some people, it might be that they'll build a gym in their house, and then they have one of their accountability people call them up so to make sure they do it every day, at 12 o'clock. In your case, you get someone to come down. In someone else's case, it might be that they find a gym that's five minute walk, so then they incorporate walking and going the gym, so all of a sudden, it's like coming back to answer your question as well. It's like the moment you realize that you are 100% responsible for your life and no one else, no matter your circumstances, is the moment you get the power back and everything starts to unfold. Now what, what happens next is beautiful, because you get that idea, oh, okay, I can do anything, but it's also going to become a bit scary, and you're gonna You can fall into the judgment, blame, blame, shame, guilt game. We're like, Oh, wow. So why did I waste so much time, or waste so much of my life doing this when I could have done this? So it's about realizing I. Like you said, acknowledging but also accepting what has been has been, and it brought you to where you are today. And asked the question earlier that we didn't dive into yet, but the question was, what do you think causes us to waste the time to jump on a meeting that we know we shouldn't be on? And the answer is, the way I see it is fear. So I jump on a meeting that I know should be an email because of fear of missing out, fear of failure, fear of rejection, fear of abandonment, they could show up in many ways. So an example could be, I'm gonna do this podcast with your patty. If it was written by led by fear and not by love, I'll be like, Oh, if I don't know this podcast with Pat, this is my only chance. I'm gonna miss out on talking to her and being on her successful show, and getting my voice out on into the world through that. So then what's guiding all my actions is fear, which means that I'm gonna show up very differently. But what if I'm showing up to this and saying, I'm coming from a place of love, and saying, okay, you know what? I'm just sending in my truth. I'm going to shine my light, I'm going to spend a beautiful time with my friend Patty, and we're going to have a conversation, what happens, how it happens. It's not for me to worry about, like, what the outcome of it is, how it's going to show up. Like you said, like we didn't have expectations around these conversations.

We may be married to the outcome, all you could do is the actions you can't be married to the outcome, which I think is also like when you're talking to potential clients too. You can present the solution, you can have a conversation with them, but you have to show up in a way that you're going to show up and you're going to offer them the invitation or the solution. They may or may not take it. And you can't be married to it. It's also like when people want to pick your brain, or can I run something by you, or whatever, you know, it's like, if I have a time, it's like, great. And I'm not married to whether they take it or not, right? You know, they ask me for my opinion or my help or the answer to a question based on my expertise. I give it to them. I don't get mad if they don't do it. Right? I'm not married to that, right, you know

And that's not always the case, because I know myself in the past, I didn't used to I would get mad if you know I'm like, why are you asking me for advice if you're not going to take it? Because here's what happened. Like I said, you get married to the outcome, meaning that, in my mind, the only way for them to actually acknowledge and accept my help is to do exactly what I told them, which is such a big illusion, where instead it's like, now, like now, like you said, it's such a beautiful example, because you're just sharing, you're giving, you're coming from your heart, you're coming, you're selling in your light, and then that alone is going to make a huge difference. They may not do it exactly like you said, they may not even do it right away, but the seed was planted pouring it all right, but the seed was planted to lead to something else, and they won't even realize and you won't realize that it was because your conversation went up. So the more you detach yourself for from that outcome, like you said, the easier it becomes. So as a CEO, if you have too much on your plate, you feeling this overwhelm, first I would invite you to do an inventory. I see what overwhelm is there for a reason, meaning that, like, something is off, in misalignment with your true self, and if that's the case, without that awareness, you can't do anything. Let's say you have that information. The next step is, how do we stand in our truth? Meaning we know that if you're overwhelmed, you have too many projects, too many commitments, what can we step back and cut out immediately? That's why that's the easiest thing you can find, an hour so you can, you can time block, like you do Paddy, like you can time block, but actually have boundaries around it, because what happens when most people time block? You'll have three hours in the calendar this block for you to focus on. Your 20% that yields you 80% of the results. So that revenue generating things you mentioned. But then you're like, oh, but if someone comes knocking on the door, you're like, Okay, let me help you. And or if someone calls you pick up, or if a notification goes in, oh, this is an important client. I need to respond to them. And then you bounce between things. And here's what they found. There was a study that recently, you know how many minutes it takes you to recoup your focus after you get distracted. Daddy, it's pretty crazy. Like, do you think so

Coming to my mind right now, but actually, I do know. I've heard that many, many times, but I had

So that gracious research is something like 23 minutes, 23 minutes on average, to regain your focus to buy so let's take the example. I block my schedule for three hours. I'm half an hour in, and you call me and I'm like, oh, I need to pay this up. This up. This is very important, and it could be, right, there's always emergencies. I'm not saying never pick up your phone, but for the most part, it's not an emergency. I pick up the phone. I say, we talk for five minutes. It's just five minutes. But then it takes me 23 minutes to really refocus and come back into it. If I only had two hours blog, that's, I mean, that's a quarter of my time just gone.

When you say, I mean some aspects, if you're time blocking, say four hours, right? You know when I time block, I always time block in like, three or four hours when possible, but I know that to stay Uber focused for four hours, that something's not going to happen. So to me, when I time block four hours, well, first of all. Just your physiology is going to create. You need to have to do something anyway.

You want to have you ought to have break. So

I create breaks. I have a timer. I actually have an Apple watch too. That literally tells me, but I literally do that, and I I put that into the amount of time that I'm going to have so that I don't get distracted in the middle of that thing. So, like, if I'm doing something for four hours, or maybe, like, two things that I want to accomplish, so there's a break in between those two things, or at a certain part, because I do know that it's hard to get back up and and get focused again. So I choose where my breaks are going to be when I set up the tide block. So it's so easy to sit down, or easy for me now to be able to go, Okay, I'm not sitting here for four hours. I mean, I've time blocked this for four hours. In that four hours, I'm going to work for 40 minutes on this. That's how long I think this, you know, and then I'm going to get up and I'm going to go do this, and then I'm going to do this for this amount of time. So in that period of time, in that 40 minutes, or whatever I set aside for that thing, I don't get distracted from that, right? You know, because, I mean, I actually even have my family trained. I mean, I do. It's so funny. I even have my family trained that if they text me or they need me, if it's 911, you know, literally, you drop everything. It's a 911 call right from your family. 811 when they text me with 811 means you don't have to call me back right now. It's not an emergency. But when you do have a break, I do need to talk to you about something, you know, like, I'm not calling just a chat, right? You know? And when they say 411411 just means, hey, I'm calling the chat. Got some information I want to share or want to ask you. So literally, I know by the code on how important it is, but I have a ringer for you know, I know who the ringer is, whatever. So that stuff's not right here anyway. But, I mean, there's exceptions to every rule, of course. But again, I think that the thing that you're saying that, I think the biggest takeaway really here is that you get to choose, like we get to choose, and we have to know ourselves, to know what those best choices are, because you could just decide that you want to do this. You know, like I said with the gym, I have a gym in my house, uh, my husband works out like four times a week, and he has a fully decked out gym of which I never go to, nope, right? You know myself, which I never go to. So I knew what was I going to do if that's what I wanted to do, right? So I had to sit down and be real with myself. So sometimes you really do have to know yourself, but not what you want to be. But who are you really? At your core? Now you could want to make some changes. I mean, I have to tell you, when I decided I wanted to learn how to meditate, it was a struggle, yes, for me to meditate. Like, oh, I could not do it at first. And I just finally said, Okay, so here's how I did. I was like, Okay, well, if you can do it, you're not just gonna say, Oh, I can't do it. I decided how much time that was going to be. And I told myself, okay, this is what you're going to do. This is how much time you're going to do it. So meditate. If you don't meditate, well, you don't get to get up and go do something else. This is the time you set, you know. And because I knew that I wasn't going to get to go do something else, I finally got it took me a little bit of time, right, you know? So I feel like you have to really know yourself to know what it is that you're going to do. So I think, I think that it is important. I think one of the things that the words we haven't said yet, but I think are very important here, is accountability, right? You know, whether it's accountability to your own self, accountability to the decisions that you've made? Because I just think it's very important, what methods would you recommend for leaders to stay accountable, to their goals, to the decisions that they're making, even to the things that they've done for themselves? Do you have any methods that you could recommend that for them to stay accountable?

Yeah, thank you for adding all that. That's such a beautiful question as well. And you talked about a great example that I always refer back to, having someone in your life to act as an accountability body increases your chance of success dramatically. That could be a coach, a mentor, or, like, in your case, a group of friends, or even just one friend, meaning that, like when you put your information out there and say, you know, let's say you have a really your best friend, right? And say, Okay, I'm really committed to doing this. Can you help me stay accountable? And then you can set out the boundaries. You can set up how that would look like. Is it daily? Is it weekly? Checking in with my clients. What I do, as an example is that, if it's a one one client, we have the intensive at first it's a one or two days, depending on their schedules, and then we meet once every seven to 10 days, depending, again, on what they are in their journey. But then every two days, they send me a quick Voxer message, either audio or text, in which they tell me three things, what they're celebrating, one challenge they're facing right now and what they're looking forward to. Uh, so starting with gratitude and celebration, moving into a challenge that they're overcoming or they're working through right now, and then also coming back to excitement on where you go to and that, that message you can call it's for me because it's sitting to me, but no, it's for them, because it keeps them accountable to the path they're on now. That changes that that gets upgraded after the first couple of weeks, because, like we mentioned so far, everyone is unique, so we'll make it in such a way that you can stay accountable to yourself. So yes, you could say, you I'm going to send this message to my accountability, friend, coach, mentor, but really, you're sending it for yourself. So you can put yourself in this routine. Well, literally, you could email yourself on what if you use WhatsApp? I use whatsapp a lot with my family and friends. On WhatsApp, you even have a session where you can message yourself, and I always leave messages to myself, and that allows you to be accountable to yourself. And then there could be practices like I mentioned at the beginning, or somewhere in the middle, where every morning on Monday or every Sunday evening, I look back and say, What are my priorities? How am I actually aligned with these priorities and the week ahead or the month ahead? And that keeps me accountable to all a standing my truth and know my priorities and B actually follow through with that.

I love that, and I think it is really important. Now I have to tell you constantly, one of the thing that I'm really excited about for you is this vision that you have set for yourself to bring together a million heart led leaders. What do you hope to achieve with this initiative, and how do you see it impacting the business world?

Oh, such a beautiful question. By the end, thank you. Yes. I mean, what I'm hoping to achieve with this is that I want to be able to inspire and empower and guide people to find the truth and stand in their truth, meaning that they get to lead from the heart being an example in their communities and their businesses and their their world. And as a result, if let's imagine your your let's say your hope as a business owner right now is just to improve the way you run business and scale your business up well, in that process, you're going to impact the life of your clients, of the people you work with, the people in your communities, if you go to church, or if you have other communities, you attend your family, because you always lead by example, good, bad or indifferent. You always lead by example. So my vision is around, how can we bring you or help you to lead more from the heart and less from the fear side for things. Now, what does what this will do if it's a million people doing it within their communities, what's your sphere of influence? Is my question to anyone listening. Do you influence 10 people in your life? 1000 a million yourself, the number will vary based on the on the on the person. If you're big on social media, you're gonna have a bigger reach. But even those that don't have a huge reach, you still influence through your presence, through what you do, hundreds of people every year. So if you have a million people standing truly in their truth, in their light, and leading from the heart, and let's say each of us are to influence 1000 people, that's a billion people already. That's a big number.

That's a big number, and more than probably one person could do by themselves. But we don't have to do it by ourselves, right? That was, that is what I think is so exciting. I think that, you know, I think that a lot of times when people are starting out in their business, right? You know, and they're kind of still in the hustle, so to speak. They still trying to do everything themselves. I feel like you can exponentially grow your business the moment you stop doing it by yourself, right? You know, I think it is just so important and and there's so many different ways to do it right? There's just so many different ways to do it. So I think it is so important. And I have to tell you, I so love that mission and that vision and stuff, and I could see it right, you know. And, you know, being friends like we are, I, you know, I want to be a part of it as well, but I think it is really good. So I have to tell you, I have so enjoyed this conversation. I mean so much so. And I know that you actually came bearing gifts, and you have a video training that you're going to give them and and stuff. So for those of you that whether you're listening or watching, you can just look below and you will see the button that you can click on to get it. So no problem there. But can you take just a minute and kind of tell them what it is that they're going to get by taking you up on your offer, on your gift, your free gift, no less?

Yes, absolutely. Patty, thank you. So I recorded a course a few weeks back on similar topics that we're talking right now, and this idea of how we can start freeing up 10 hours in our week, I call it five, five to 10 hours, and it breaks down essentially what we had talked about going down from shining your light bright to knowing thyself to to then creating this freedom of time. And that's how it starts, and it's cyclical, because the more free time you create. The more you get to know yourself better, the more you get to shine your light bright, the more you shine your light bright, the more you want to stand in your truth. And you create more time, right? So it's a beautiful momentum building exercise. And as you go through through the course, you will get to a point where we I will go deep into this inventory, because almost like 90 episode people I get to talk to. It doesn't matter if they work with me or not. Almost no one has done an inventory of truly where the time is going. So I walk you through on how to do that, the categories that are important to me and what I recommend. And you can, of course, I empower you to find your own categories and go deep. And then I introduce some some bandage solutions. And that leads into other other conversations. But really it's about how to begin this journey of gaining freedom of time. I also call it, I believe the course, I have to remember the full name, but it's like freedom to shine. That's really what it is. It's like freedom to shine, and then to be able to get the freedom to shine, you need to first discover some freedom of time and energy.

I love that, and I think it is really, really important too. So thank you so much for being so generous and sharing. I really appreciate that. And so for my audience, thank you so much for being here every week and sharing this journey with me. I appreciate you being here so much. And if you enjoyed today's episode, and I'm sure you did, please like subscribe and review the podcast on your favorite listening platform, and make sure that you check out our sister publication, the marketing media Money Magazine. We can get a free copy by going to m3 digital mag com. Again, that's m3digitalmag.com, again, look below. Constantine shared so much wonderful stuff. All of his links will be below. His gift will be below. Please reach out to him. I'm going to tell you I enjoy having him in my life. I think you'll enjoy having him in yours. Thank you so much again, Constantine, for being here today. Thank you everybody. We'll see you again next week.