{"href":"http://player.captivate.fm/services/oembed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.captivate.fm%2Fepisode%2F18d41d98-3f88-48ad-a9b6-ed1eaf0350ca","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Captivate.FM","provider_url":"https://www.captivate.fm","width":600,"height":200,"type":"rich","html":"","title":"336: Coach-to-Coach, Truths About Coming Out Later In Life \u2013 Anne-Marie Zanzal","description":"It\u2019s been awhile since we\u2019ve done a \u201cHe said, she said\u201d or a \u201cCoach To Coach\u201d segment. But when I was contact by Anne-Marie Zanzal, I knew it was time. Especially given our political climate where it appears that the far right, and maybe even the leaning right are coming after the LGBTQ community.\r\nTypically when these types of rumblings start to happen, one of two things occur. People hiding in the closet say \u201cF*ck it. I\u2019m coming out,\u201d or \u201cNope, not yet, and maybe never will I come out!\u201d When the later happens, so many people become shocked and appalled that someone hid in the closet for all those years, and then have the audacity to come out. Really? Why would you if your life might depend on it, or be ruined in so many ways.\r\nToday, Anne-Marie and I take on this and so many other aspects of why people come out late in life around sexuality and other things that people don\u2019t usually think pertains to coming out.\r\nShow Highlights\r\n\r\n* Discover the 5 top reasons people stay in heterosexual marriages, afraid to come out of the closet\r\n* Brene Brown teaches this one thing that empowers us to come out later in life\r\n* It\u2019s not just sex that makes a lesbian and lesbian, and a gay man a gay man \u2013 so what is it?\r\n* All coming out journeys \u2013 sexuality or otherwise \u2013 need to understand the full embrace, half embrace experience\r\n* Heteronormality is a belief system just like religion\r\n\r\nAbout Anne-Marie\r\nAnne-Marie Zanzal is a proud later in life lesbian and mom of four children. She has\u00a0a Master of Divinity from Yale Divinity School and a graduate certificate in Women\u2019s Leadership from Hartford Seminary. She is an ordained minister in the United Church of Christ and has worked as a church pastor and as a chaplain in both hospitals and hospices. She is a Compassionate Bereavement Provider certified by the MISSFoundation. Along with others, she moderates a secret online support group for women coming out later in life.\u00a0 Anne-Marie is an informed and entertaining speaker and group leader about coming out later in life, end of life issues, hospice and grief.\u00a0 She is available for one-on-one online grief\u00a0support for everyone and coming out later in life counseling for women.\r\nYou can find more of Anne-Marie\u2019s work and her blog \u201cLetting Go of Fear\u201d at\u00a0www.annemariezanzal.com. She lives in\u00a0Nashville, TN with her partner photographer\u00a0Tonda McKay.\r\nConnect With Anne-Marie\r\nWebsite\r\nFacebook\r\nInstagram\r\n","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/4b9b6c41-474a-4fd0-a374-cbb2a7aa23a4/1400x1400_uncloseted_artwork-01-573.jpg"}