{"href":"http://player.captivate.fm/services/oembed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.captivate.fm%2Fepisode%2F1f5e46eb-273d-4a3a-bc77-4e1ad2c1ae2a","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Captivate.FM","provider_url":"https://www.captivate.fm","width":600,"height":200,"type":"rich","html":"<iframe style=\"width: 100%; height: 200px;\" title=\"Episode 96 \u2013 12 May 2017\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allow=\"clipboard-write\" seamless src=\"http://player.captivate.fm/episode/1f5e46eb-273d-4a3a-bc77-4e1ad2c1ae2a\"></iframe>","title":"Episode 96 \u2013 12 May 2017","description":"In this episode, The Fist talks with Brian Morris the author of Sacred to Secular.<br />\n<a href=\"https://www.change.org/p/minister-simon-birmingham-stop-funding-schools-that-teach-creationism\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Here is a link to his petition.</a><br />\nand<a href=\"https://www.plainreason.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> here is a link to his website Plain Reason</a> where you can get a copy of his book Sacred to Secular.<br />\nIn the interview, we discuss Brian&#8217;s career as a PR consultant, his experience with Bob Carr and the NSW government, and his motivation to write a book about secularism. After that, we talk about government funding of religious schools we then propose a plan for a lobbying effort using a well-known celebrity to act as an ambassador\u00a0or spokesperson for the secular movement.<br />\n&nbsp;<br />","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/085762e2-797c-4ef4-9b10-434ecde61c07/logo2018v2.jpg"}