{"href":"http://player.captivate.fm/services/oembed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.captivate.fm%2Fepisode%2F3b0efb2c-44fc-4ec5-aa9f-7bae7f179fa0","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Captivate.FM","provider_url":"https://www.captivate.fm","width":600,"height":200,"type":"rich","html":"","title":"#8: How Green Is Your Steel? with Thomas Koch Blank, Anders Wiliamsson, and Anne-Claire Howard","description":"How do you make steel without cooking the planet? What is \"green steel\"?\r\nSteel is a fundamental part of our world, but the process we use to make it is inherently carbon-intensive. In this latest episode, we talk about new developments in both the production of fossil-free steel and how it is making its way to global markets with experts Thomas Koch Blank, Anders Williamsson, and Anne-Claire Howard.\r\nChiefly, we discuss the implications of a new, cleaner process being used in Sweden to make fossil-free steel using hydrogen. We also examine what this means for both the global steel industry and consumers, as well as the timeframe for green steel take over brown steel.\r\nThomas Koch Blank is a global expert on green steel and senior principal at RMI's Climate Aligned Industries program. Anders Williamsson is an executive VP and head of industrial operations at Swedish truck maker Scania. Anne-Claire Howard was the chief executive officer of Responsible Steel at the time of the recording. She has since moved on to a different role as the director of procurement at the UNOPS.\r\nAbout us: Earthlings Podast looks at the decisions that we can make today to ensure that the future we have is one we want to live in. Hosts Lisa Ann Pinkerton (former award-winning NPR and PBS environmental science reporter) and Christian Roselund (founding editor of pv magazine USA) take a close look at our relationships with technology, science, the planet, and each other.\r\nTalking Points:\r\n\r\nWhy is the steel-making process such a carbon-intensive process?\r\nThe process of using hydrogen to make steel\r\nDevelopments in hydrogen-based steelmaking in Sweden\r\nRecycled steel versus primary steel\r\nThe prospects for direct reduced iron made with hydrogen\r\nVolvo\u2019s first autonomous electric mining vehicle with green steel\r\nScania\u2019s use of green steel\r\nAt what time will green steel take over brown steel?\r\nWhich sectors are the most effective uses of hydrogen\r\nThe potential for a differentiated market for green steel\r\nCarbon pricing and how that plays a role in the production of steel\r\n\r\nResources/Links:\r\n\u201cVolvo unveils world\u2019s first vehicle using fossil-free steel\u201d video","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/9634c355-9fe4-4214-93e5-7bb3143ec38a/4WlaceVSNYbn5pHhDYQz2w3E.jpg"}