{"href":"http://player.captivate.fm/services/oembed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.captivate.fm%2Fepisode%2F4d9ea9fa-001a-4a61-a3f4-10586707e106","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Captivate.FM","provider_url":"https://www.captivate.fm","width":600,"height":200,"type":"rich","html":"","title":"Episode 213 \u2013 A Podcast to Indigenous Australians","description":"Hello\nI am asking if any indigenous spokesperson would be willing to be interviewed for my podcast.\nMy co-hosts and I produce a weekly podcast looking at news, politics and current affairs and we occasionally discuss Indigenous issues.\nOur views are usually left-wing. We support higher taxes, increased welfare and progressive reforms in areas such as assisted dying, abortion law and marriage equality.\nBut in one area we go against the grain of a typical lefty. We have a real problem with laws that discriminate on the basis of race and it seems to us that providing a special voice to parliament to a group of people based on their race is not a good idea.\nSome of our listeners have pointed out that we are privileged white guys and we really should try to get someone on to put forward the pro-indigenous argument.\nWe genuinely want to have a deep, respectful and honest conversation about this topic and indigenous issues generally.\nPlease listen to what we have to say and make contact if you would like to debate us.\nTrevor\n3:08 Racism\nFrom Wikipedia: Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another. It may also include prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity, or the belief that members of different races or ethnicities should be treated differently. Modern variants of racism are often based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. These views can take the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems in which different races are ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities.\n7:10 Positive racism towards one race must necessarily involve negative racism to the other races.\n7:48 Why are we concerned about indigenous people? It\u2019s because we see that disproportionately, members of their group suffer disadvantage and injustices. It is the disadvantage and suffering that motivates us and we must keep our eye on that.\n8:30 Ground Rules\nWe state a proposition and then the underlying principle which is being applied. We then apply that principle to other scenarios and check whether it seems to stack up.\nSome people will say that as a white man I have not experienced persecution and without the lived experience I cannot comment.\nIf we can\u2019t debate then what hope is there?\nChristians say they are persecuted and discriminated against. I don\u2019t live as a Christian and can\u2019t speak about their human interactions but I can speak about our rules and systems and structures and say BS. Same applies to indigenous people.\nI could use that argument and turn it around and say something similar. I could say that as a non-lawyer you can\u2019t comment on laws. As an upper middle class media celebrity aboriginal person you can\u2019t comment on the plight of remote aboriginal people. As an educated person you can\u2019t comment on the uneducated. And so on \u2026\nWhat about trans athletes[1]? I\u2019ll never be one and most of us won\u2019t but we can have our 2c worth.\n15:33 Terminology\nFrom the ACT Council of Social Services[2].\n\u2018Indigenous\u2019 (capitalised) is a term extensively used throughout Australia when referring to the Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander peoples of Australia, and related topics \u2026 The term is merely used for convenience, to alleviate repeating \u2018Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander\u2019.\n\u2018Aboriginal\u2019 (adjective, capitalised) is a term extensively used and widely accepted throughout Australia when referring to Aboriginal peoples and topics. Aboriginal peoples are the first peoples of mainland Australia and many of its islands such as Tasmania, Groote Eylandt, Hinchinbrook Island and Fraser Island.\n\u2018Aboriginal\u2019 (noun,","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/085762e2-797c-4ef4-9b10-434ecde61c07/logo2018v2.jpg"}