{"href":"http://player.captivate.fm/services/oembed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.captivate.fm%2Fepisode%2F6bc8a925-86b0-4c3f-aa14-404807d5a705","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Captivate.FM","provider_url":"https://www.captivate.fm","width":600,"height":200,"type":"rich","html":"","title":"92 \u2013 Delisi Friday \u2013 Back In Action: Post-Trial Discussion","description":"In this episode of the Trial Lawyer Nation podcast, Michael sits down with his Director of Marketing and Business Development, Delisi Friday, for a retrospective look at his recent in-person trial, including prep, mindset and more, only 3 days after the case settled.\nThe episode begins in a unique way with Michael turning the tables on the traditional Trial Lawyer Nation format and passing the interviewer role to Delisi. She goes on to open the conversation about how Michael is doing after his recently settled trial. \u201cI\u2019m on cloud 9,\u201d Michael says in response, before going into how fun it\u2019s been getting back into a courtroom for his first in-person trial since February 2020. (For the post-trial discussion of that case, check out https://triallawyernation.com/episode/53-malorie-peacock/ (Ep 53 \u2013 The Verdict Is In!) with Malorie Peacock.)\nAfter a brief reflection from Michael about just how much he missed in-person trials, Delisi comments on the \u201ccalm confidence\u201d he displayed throughout the trial and asks how he developed that skill. Michael goes on to describe working on his mindset and sense of self to \u201chave joy in trial.\u201d He elaborates by sharing how he worked to separate his value as a person and his worth as a lawyer from his trial results. This created an environment where he was not only able to have fun and focus on what he needed to do, but also remove unnecessary pressures.\n\u201cYou don\u2019t want to say \u2018I don\u2019t care whether I win or lose,\u2019 because that\u2019s not true […] but, I just let it go [and] went in there with, \u2018I\u2019m just going to have fun, I have a great story, I\u2019m going to tell that story, and I\u2019m going to trust the jury to do the right thing.\u2019\u201d \u2013 Michael Cowen\nFollowing a discussion on the differences between this trial and trials in 2019, Michael goes into the unique jury selection process for this trial. For starters, to appropriately space the 45 potential jurors, a larger courtroom was used which came with its own obstacles, such as columns blocking peoples view, the need for multiple spotters, and jurors being unable to hear their peers which limited discussion. \u201cThis was probably a little better, because we actually got to talk to every single person and the judge didn\u2019t give time limits. We got to spend a full day doing jury selection, which in south Texas is a rare thing.\u201d\nCircling back to voir dire from a conversation about the client in this case and the challenges that arose from her growing story, Delisi cites Joe Fried\u2019s advice from a previous episode (https://triallawyernation.com/episode/86-joe-fried/ (Ep 86 \u2013 Challenging Your Paradigm)) regarding being comfortable with your number and asks Michael about his number, how he got to it and if he brought it up in voir dire.\nhttps://triallawyernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/100721-Robb-v.-Big-Lots.pdf (Click here to view/download Michael’s opening transcript for the case referenced in this episode.)\n\u201cI wanted to mention the $30 million number, that was going to be my ask in the case, and I put a lot of thought into why I thought $30 million was fair in that case [\u2026] I wanted to get it out there early.\u201d \u2013 Michael Cowen\nIn order to better understand the $30 million number, Michael goes on to describe his client\u2019s injuries and her life before the incident. Before the incident, his client was a charge nurse at a women\u2019s oncology unit in a top hospital in San Antonio. She enjoyed her job, helping others, the comradery with her fellow nurses and some well-deserved bonding time after a 12-hour shift. After the incident, however, that would quickly change.\nFollowing an incident at Big Lots, where a 29-pound box hit her in the neck and shoulders, she would incur physical injuries such as a multi-level fusion in her neck, a rotator cuff injury, back pain and (we believe) a mild traumatic brain injury (mTBI).","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/80de4db6-da18-41b8-9643-156c5d06db25/tln-logo-itunes-1400.jpg"}