{"href":"http://player.captivate.fm/services/oembed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fplayer.captivate.fm%2Fepisode%2F733ffcfc-4170-4738-848f-b94dfff0b014","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Captivate.FM","provider_url":"https://www.captivate.fm","width":600,"height":200,"type":"rich","html":"<iframe style=\"width: 100%; height: 200px;\" title=\"What Does Our Abandonment of Afghanistan Mean?\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allow=\"clipboard-write\" seamless src=\"http://player.captivate.fm/episode/733ffcfc-4170-4738-848f-b94dfff0b014\"></iframe>","title":"What Does Our Abandonment of Afghanistan Mean?","description":"<p>Of course we were going to talk about Afghanistan. On the best of weeks, it doesn\u2019t take a lot for me to talk about Afghanistan. Even moreso now. Just for added variety and perspective, we imported two non-Havok Journal folks to talk about it \u2013 Dr. Paul D. Miller and \u201cG\u201d an active-duty NSW operator 20 years and 12 deployments into his career. HJ was well-represented with one of our most articulate civilian writers \u2013 Dr. Alice Atalanta \u2013 who \u2013 spoiler alert \u2013 bridged the civ-mil divide in an unsparing critique of civilian inattention to Afghanistan. Whether you\u2019re still fuzzy on why Afghanistan matters or if you simply need some catharsis, this episode is going to have something for you.</p>\n\n<p>\u00a0</p>\n\n<p>Show Notes</p>\n\n<p><a href='https://www.amazon.com/Just-Ordered-Liberty-Paul-Miller/dp/1108819710/ref=sr_1_1?crid=34KHT8S26TSZU&dchild=1&keywords=paul+d.+miller&qid=1629772372&sprefix=paul+d.+mill%2Caps%2C155&sr=8-1'>Just War and Ordered Liberty</a> by Dr. Paul D. Miller</p>\n\n<p><a href='https://www.amazon.com/American-Power-Liberal-Order-Internationalist/dp/B06Y263W4H/ref=sr_1_3?crid=34KHT8S26TSZU&dchild=1&keywords=paul+d.+miller&qid=1629772405&sprefix=paul+d.+mill%2Caps%2C155&sr=8-3'>American Power and Liberal Order</a> by Dr. Paul D. Miller</p>\n\n<p><a href='https://www.amazon.com/Armed-State-Building-Confronting-1898-2012/dp/0801451493/ref=sr_1_4?crid=34KHT8S26TSZU&dchild=1&keywords=paul+d.+miller&qid=1629772405&sprefix=paul+d.+mill%2Caps%2C155&sr=8-4'>Armed State Building</a> by Dr. Paul D. Miller</p>\n\n<p><a href='https://thedispatch.com/p/afghanistan-didnt-have-to-end-this'>Afghanistan Didn\u2019t Have to End This Way</a> by Dr. Paul D. Miller</p>\n\n<p><a href='https://www.instagram.com/aliceatalantaphd/'>How to reach</a> Dr. Alice Atalanta</p>\n\n<p><a href='https://www.aliceatalanta.com/'>How else</a> to reach Dr. Alice Atalanta</p>\n\n<p><a href='https://havokjournal.com/world/the-loss-of-life-in-war-is-not-a-sunk-cost-why-owe-the-afghan-people-better-and-what-the-military-community-can-do-about-it/'>The Loss of Life in War is Not a Sunken Cost</a> by Dr. Alice Atalanta</p>\n\n<p><a href='https://www.amazon.com/Meditations-Army-Ranger-Philosophy-Everyone/dp/0998848514/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=alice+atalanta&qid=1629772483&sr=8-1'>Meditations of an Army Ranger</a> by LTC JC Glick and Dr. Alice Atalanta</p>\n\n<p><a href='https://www.amazon.com/Navigating-Chaos-Certainty-Uncertain-Situations/dp/1941729061/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=jeff+boss&qid=1629772539&s=books&sr=1-2'>Navigating Chaos</a> by Jeff Boss and Dr. Alice Atalanta</p>\n\n<p><a href='https://coffeeordie.com/extortion-17-recovery/'>Story of Extortion 17</a></p>\n\n<p>\u00a0</p>\n\n<p>\u00a0</p>\n\n<p>\u00a0</p>\n\n<p>\u00a0</p>\n","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_height":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/aa3bd0fc-8975-4494-9c98-b746d8c59369/twh-cover-final.png"}